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Re: Overlord Run 3: A History lesson & FX staff involvement
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2011, 10:09:44 AM »
I thought I did a good job in organizing "Overlord Run 2" I must say so myself.  *pats on the back*.

LOL ... some of the ways I did it even stuck, like color coordinating the PAID list and such.

"One" of the few good things I did as Vader I guess.  LOL ... anal retentive in organizing things.   :D

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Re: Overlord Run 3: A History lesson & FX staff involvement
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2011, 10:15:16 AM »
Yeah, so I hate to derail, but since we're in this section of the forum...has anyone seen an Elder w/ sound lying around here anywhere??

...just kidding. ;D

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Re: Overlord Run 3: A History lesson & FX staff involvement
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2011, 10:22:53 AM »
Shade, if you find it ... it's probably next to my JSS (no not Judge Sabersmith) Anakin AOTC conversion ....   ;)

If you find it, could you send it to me.  Eh ... nvm.  I wrote that off a long time ago.

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Re: Overlord Run 3: A History lesson & FX staff involvement
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2011, 10:29:26 AM »
One thing's for sure, this is the longest Internet outage in the history of the state of Indiana!  Can someone please make a phone call and get a truck down there already.


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Re: Overlord Run 3: A History lesson & FX staff involvement
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2011, 10:33:39 AM »
Threadjack breaker.

I do not see the disrespect, unless you are referring to my response to Darth Wraith's post. His post was out of line and up for almost a month, and condoned. :o
That part of my response could have been removed along with his post, and I would not have minded.
His post was out of line and up for almost a month. I felt his needed a public reply with examples to show it is not true.

Next Time, if there is one, I will use the report to moderator function or call.  
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Re: Overlord Run 3: A History lesson & FX staff involvement
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2011, 11:12:18 AM »
The other "contributions" offered up were indeed offers, but not ones that could be taken up on.  Offering to help, and actually helping, are two very different things.  Offering to help build sabers to which the PARTS WERE STOLEN, doesn't help because the sabers can't be built... you know... because of the stolen parts? Sending a thief more money... uh huh... that doesn't help.    He already stole my lathe, my parts, and ruined my rep - you think he would care about your 200 bucks??

Actually, I (along with others) sent him money.  We didn't send money to a thief, as you say....he was a "friend" and a mentor to many of us.  As I'm sure you didn't send a lathe to a thief...right?  None of us could have known what Derek would have done and how poorly this would reflect on the community.
Please don't trivialize my contribution because to me... that was a lot of money.  A lot of money on something that I had nothing to do with, other than to see the fiasco finally over.   I sent him that money because he said everything was ready... he just needed to ship it out but he had no money.  So I paid for the shipping of all those sabers, he told me it was 22 sabers.  (Bear in mind, I never ordered an Overlord... again, I had no stake in this, other than to see it over).   I just wanted to help a friend out of a rut.  Again, at the time, he was a friend.
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Re: Overlord Run 3: A History lesson & FX staff involvement
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2011, 11:23:08 AM »
I do not see any drama or disrespect here...

Misinformation was posted on your site. People from here posted very polite and curtious posts on your site just simply stating that what was stated was not necessarily true, and they did it without attacking anyone. And their posts were deleted by Alex, promptly, while Darth Wraiths posts remained, and Alex's post that agreed with and supported Wraiths also remained. So you see if there was any disrespect and/or drama it was Alex's doing. Thats not an attack either just a very obvious observation.

I believe it was only right that those "nazis" and "aristocrats" post here, on there own turf, to set the record straight.
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Re: Overlord Run 3: A History lesson & FX staff involvement
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2011, 11:41:52 AM »
I'm quite surprised at the hostility spewing forth in response to non-inflamatory posts and posts of clarification across different boards these days.  I saw the response given Juliajulia there yesterday.  I read the ones here.  Very sad coming from what I thought were  mature venues.  Makes me feel like I'm at the Jr. High lunch table arguing over who is Justin Biebers biggest fan.  Or jockying for the back seat in the bus.  That seat is taken already though, cuz I'm the coolest kid on the short bus, sorry.

I'ma just say this: feedback is feedback, and as much as someone may not like it, if there are positive or negative things to say, they will find an outlet to say them and someone not liking it only hurts their image by responding out of anger or emotion to said feedback. 
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Re: Overlord Run 3: A History lesson & FX staff involvement
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2011, 11:48:58 AM »
You were another victim, I sympathize, and I do not belittle your loss.

I was just pointing out that your loss didn't help things, despite your best intentions.  It's regrettable.  I'm not being hypocritical, me losing my lathe didn't contribute, either.  Well, I guess we contributed to the tragedy of the whole thing, but not to the resolution.

Derek's landlord, ISP, and phone company can chime in here anytime...

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Re: Overlord Run 3: A History lesson & FX staff involvement
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2011, 12:44:39 PM »
I had no intention of actually going to Derek's house,  I had tried to get him to meet me halfway in Fort Wayne at a,neutral site like a restaurant or store and exchange the saber and other parts.  He also explained to me the situation on that lathe.  I said no because if he still owed you money on it,  it would be no different than stealing it from you myself.  I still wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt up until them,  but soon after I gave up on him,  and now see him as the thief everyone else does.  I would personally like to consider the matter closed and move on.
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Re: Overlord Run 3: A History lesson & FX staff involvement
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2011, 12:47:47 PM »
I know nothing about the past overlord runs except from what I have read from members on this, and Ultra's Forum...

However, I find it interesting that Ultra has responded venomously and sarcastically in every response... and the "elitists/Nazis" have been most civil and reserved in their posts regarding this topic...

Something to think about...

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Re: Overlord Run 3: A History lesson & FX staff involvement
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2011, 12:56:20 PM »
A very inaccurate and disturbing post by Darth Wraith http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=1331.msg14697#msg14697 screenshot http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b219/Nailbunny375/OV4%20thread/Dwraithspost.png

See, man, this is why I simply can't believe a thing you say anymore.  You seem to come at me with a legit concern - you don't like the word Nazi being thrown around, it's hurtful to Jews, or as you put it:

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Darth Wraith's post is offensive to any member of the Hebrew faith that is aware of the full meaning of the word Nazi.

I wondered if the Soup Nazi caused you the same amount of concern, but then you hit me with:

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For the record my girlfriend is Jewish.

Ok, fair enough, I remove the post.  And what do you do?  You make a screenshot and post it for all to read.  You even upload it to photobucket, thus ensuring it lives on for all eternity in Google's image database.   ::)  Oh yeah, that really brings down that cruel message of hate...

Why did you want me to remove the post if you were just going to make a permanent copy on this forum?  You gotta know images never get deleted once published on the net, it gets cached a billion times and will always be retrievable from then on.  Only teenage girls with camera phones don't know this.

If you wanted the post removed for the reasons you stated, you would be GLAD it's down, you wouldn't be immortalizing it.

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Re: Overlord Run 3: A History lesson & FX staff involvement
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2011, 01:17:09 PM »
It's in a locked non public photobucket album. Only those with a direct link can view it.
Would you prefer I had quoted the entire post at the being of the thread?

Since the can of worms is open by your posting my PMs out of context, here's the full account.

My PM exchange with Alex on SF

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I did not break any of the rules of your forum or state anything that is not untrue or verifiable.
Darth Wraith's post is offensive to any member of the Hebrew faith that is aware of the full meaning of the word Nazi. Letting his post stand will cost you more than it gains

Weather you realize it or not ALL of my actions concerning Ultrasabers and it's staff have been to make it better. Dealing with customer services issues by deleting them or being belligerent is wrong.

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Had you actually read the rules, you would have posted an acknowledgement in the thread as instructed.

Your post was removed because you came here for the sole purpose to argue/cause drama.  Your post served no other purpose but to cause more unpleasantness among the community here.  That violates the very first rule.  This is not a drama forum.  You have TCSS, JSS, and FX to cause all the drama you'd like - that's what they are good for and it's what those forums promote and thrive on.  I don't tolerate that shell here and I'm not going to let a bunch of butt-hurt FX-Sabers mods stir up shell over a 1 month old post regarding something that happened years ago.

BTW, have you EVER seen me wander into another manufacturer's forum and start shell with them?  No, you haven't.  But so far it's been Vader's Vault here this morning starting shell, and now you.  Even Tim and I have enough civility to stay off each other's forums.

Frankly, Allaerra making an account just to post her BS this morning was a xxx move, and you doing it too... well, yeah... xxx move.

If you want to bring something to my attention that bugs you, you got my number, so does she.  If you can't bring yourself to call, don't post it on the forum.

Now then, if you actually want to interact with members of the community here, feel free.  If you were just hoping to "set things straight" with that Overlord topic, you can just move along.  It's a sore spot for everyone.  I stopped posting about it a month ago, follow the lead.

As for Wraith's use of the word Nazi; you're the only person to even mention it and I have a hard time believing that National Socialism keeps you up at night.  Perhaps you hate Seinfeld and Family Guy and you're just projecting?
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My purpose was to educate and refute Darth Wraith's post.
He said the Staff at FX is unhelpful. Untrue, and you know it. Or at least now know it.
You posted the cost of the run was all on you, also untrue.

By not correcting your own post when with the facts you insult the ones that help BOTH of us out during OV3.
By letting Draith Wraith's post stand you condone it.

For the record my girlfriend is Jewish.
 

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A refutation is by definition an argument.  You came here to argue.  If you wanted to educate, you could have added to the conversation without agitating it with refutations.

The staff at FX is by and large an unhelpful group of narcissists that are only needed because Mike doesn't know how to program his own anti-spammer bots.  Some exceptions exist, of course, but unfortunately, you are known by your associates.  I know this all too well... I had Emory...  ::)

I said I had to compensate for all the STOLEN PARTS out of my pocket alone, not that I bore the cost of the entire run - that would be absurd.

Nothing in my post is untrue, but I didn't go into gory detail, either.  Why would I with a bunch of people so unattached to the event?

I haven't even read his post all the way, it's long, hard to follow, and he's just a kid.  You want me to remove it?  If that will make you feel better, I will.  There, done.

She is?  Is this the same girlfriend or a new one?

If attacking my integrity and honesty is the way you wanna go. We can take this further.
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Re: Overlord Run 3: A History lesson & FX staff involvement
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2011, 01:22:34 PM »
I know nothing about the past overlord runs except from what I have read from members on this, and Ultra's Forum...

However, I find it interesting that Ultra has responded venomously and sarcastically in every response... and the "elitists/Nazis" have been most civil and reserved in their posts regarding this topic...

Something to think about...

Yeah, or, maybe you could think about this:

The FX-Sabers staff created this thread in the best interests of the community?  How so?  This drama isn't on my forum, it's on YOURS.

If either one of these people had truly been concerned/hurt/whatever - they both have my number, both have my email, both could have solved this amicably by simply contacting me, and this would have taken place professionally behind the scenes - just like Yoda and I do all the time.  

No, they chose the public route instead.  Do you think Tim would ever come on my forum and start arguing with one of my customers?  Have I ever gone into another manufacturer's forum and started arguing with them and their patrons?  Absolutely not.

Demonize me all you want, but I'm not the one who brought this bag of dog poop into your living room.

Oh, and Jango, point remains, if you were so upset by the Nazi stuff, why screen shot it and publish it?  We know why.  You're a drama queen.

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Re: Overlord Run 3: A History lesson & FX staff involvement
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2011, 01:27:07 PM »
No I think it's better that the post of Darth Wraths is out there for all to see what you find as acceptable on your site...  I think your post after should be documented as well... You only took those posts down today not because you wanted to show your understanding for how someone could be offended... but because you finely saw how ugly those words are and you wanted to hide them...
   
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