Screw it, you guys REALLY want to re-hash this after all this time? I was just trying to give the people on my
forum a little hint at why the Overlord is a sore spot for me
without re-opening the wound. My post was purposefully vague so as to not call anyone out, but I can see such simple nuance is beyond some people. Of course, Jango, you helped out considerably and did your part. Did I not thank you enough those years ago? Do you need public recognition now from people who have no clue who you are? I didn't take anything away from you, it's like I said in my post:
Everyone did what they were supposed to do except one of the people entrusted with assembly.
No, I didn't go into further detail, but a dissertation on the subject isn't warranted for a group of people who were not there at the time. Most of them had no clue what the Overlord was, much less who any of the people you mentioned are. Why bring up all that unpleasantness?
The only other thing I said that you touched on was:
Of course, Ultra Sabers stood behind the project, so I had to compensate for all the stolen parts out of my pocket alone. No one else involved with the project had to bear any of that burden.
I'm pretty sure this is true unless other people chipped in to pay for stolen parts that I am not aware of?? Did anyone happen to pay for my lathe? You can just paypal it to me, thanks.
The other "contributions" offered up were indeed offers, but not ones that could be taken up on. Offering to help, and actually helping, are two very different things. Offering to help build sabers to which the PARTS WERE STOLEN, doesn't help because the sabers can't be built... you know... because of the stolen parts? Sending a thief more money... uh huh... that doesn't help. He already stole my lathe, my parts, and ruined my rep - you think he would care about your 200 bucks??
Offering to meet said thief at his house?? A guy that was described as "unstable" and "brain tumor guy".... bad idea, you think?? The good intentions were appreciated, but the loss I suffered from him stealing my lathe and the tooling was a couple grand alone, not to mention the missing hilts, LEDs, sound boards, etc... And I had already paid Derek to build ALL the Overlords, so I was out that money, too. Now when did I ever come to anyone and ask for help covering those losses? Never. I paid for all of it. Like I said, I didn't put the burden of the stolen parts on anyone else - and that's all I was saying.
Now, if you want to get all over me for not going into detail, what you said here should infuriate Mike and me both:
Yoda the FX-Sabers.com Site owner had to contact Installer D directly to get the sabers shipped to me in FL.
Uhm... no... It wasn't just "Mike called Derek and he did it". No. We tried that, numerous times, and Derek lied to us and then just started ignoring us. We had to make a pretty drastic commitment to get it resolved. Mike and I both had to threaten our once close friend that we would fly up to Muncie and actually press charges of grand theft against him. And it couldn't be some idle threat; we had to actually commit to doing it. We had to get the cops on board, push to have a detective put on the case and then make sure the DA would actually issue a warrant and have it executed while we were there. This was no quick process; coordinating with law enforcement isn't as easy as it looks on CSI.
But we finally got our ducks in a row, we made the threat and put our cards on the table... only THEN, did 15 of the 30+ hilts make it out of Derek's. Yeah, Josh, we were a hair away from hopping a jet across the nation to have one of the most prominent members of this community, and a friend we knew for years, thrown in the slammer. Who do you think would have financed that little excursion? You? "The Council"? And I was fully prepped and ready to do it because I said I would do whatever it took to get those sabers - and many people refused refunds, they didn't want their piddly 140 bucks, they wanted a freakin Overlord and didn't care what xxx it put anyone through to get one so long as they got their precious!
Again, pardon me for not making every single thing we do a public affair. I know yall THRIVE on every juicy bit of drama there on Jerry Springer Sabers, but to me and most civilized people I know, this type of unpleasantness is on a need to know basis. But since you, Allaerra, and god knows who else is xxx bent on coming to my forum and stirring this up all over again, well, there you have it, the wound is open to fester once more!! You really think this trip down memory lane betters your community? If so, then it's no community I want to be part of. My
community likes to focus more on the positive and have fun... because lightsabers are supposed to be fun, or have you forgotten?
To be honest, I really don't care anymore. Have your drama, eat it all up, choke on it. It's like vitamins to you people. My original post was made over a month ago; I had forgotten all about it, but I can always count on the team here to drudge up old forgotten grievances... go team.