FX-Sabers.com

Jedi Temple => Inactive / Removed Manufacturers => FX-SABERS Archives => The OUTER RIM Armory => Topic started by: darthmorbius on September 03, 2009, 05:43:50 PM

Title: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: darthmorbius on September 03, 2009, 05:43:50 PM
Well here's the skinny.

The box that the items were packaged in had collapsed and ripped causing the contents to spill.

I had to take them back and repackage everything, and make sure that nothing was damaged.  They needed me to come in and make sure nothing was lost. The Carrier has been notified that a pickup is needed and the information is below.

The package is scheduled for pickup by my carrier Friday September 04 2009 @ 10 AM (Tomorrow morning)

The Pickup request number is: WEC31187588

The Tracking number for the package is: 2503 8555 7491 3373 7115 Priority Mail Insured.

Jango will be receiving, and will distribute as all are completed and ready to ship.

I have a secondary shipment of blade stock that is going out as well for the Overlords, and everyone else's stuff will be going out within these next three weeks. Sorry, but that is the fastest I can move these out. There is a LOT of it.

Hopefully we can just put this all behind us once this is finished, and we can all get on with our lives.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: darthmorbius on September 04, 2009, 09:42:20 AM
The Package was picked up today @ 12:35 EST by a USPS Carrier. They are now on their way to Jango.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: JANGO FETT on September 08, 2009, 07:30:52 PM
Big box arrived today.

I will be sorting and posting a list ASAP.

DO NOT PM ME ABOUT THIS, UNTIL THE LIST IS POSTED.


Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on September 08, 2009, 08:36:37 PM
Woot! Cautiously optimistic!
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on September 12, 2009, 12:44:47 PM
Posting here, because it was stated that people not on the list posting in the WIP thread would be deleted...

I, obviously, am not on the list, or I'd have posted there. But I do have 2 overlords that should be in there, as well as the 2 US 2.1s for install.

So does that mean you have the sabers, but no paperwork? Or you don't have the sabers, either? What do you want us to do on our end, if you have no record? Not freaking out yet, but am relatively concerned...

No ETA on the missing parts is a little disturbing as well...
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: JANGO FETT on September 12, 2009, 01:12:40 PM
I have 15 hilt and 15 boards and a bunch of misc. parts.

Complete paper work for 6
Which consists of original overlord order and US 2.0 order.

The rest of the paper work is supposed to be shipped with more parts.
Otherwise I have to get Alex to send me all of it, and send a lot of time sorting and confirming.

What parts are not sent will be provided by ultrasabers.

orders posted in the other thread
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi20.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb219%2FNailbunny375%2F100_5614.jpg&hash=68858cd770955f669d93d1107aedc6d0) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b219/Nailbunny375/100_5614.jpg)
The rest
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi20.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb219%2FNailbunny375%2F100_5615.jpg&hash=b483696b7c4a9c9f279dd1e1608221af) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b219/Nailbunny375/100_5615.jpg)

Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: darthxanthus on September 12, 2009, 02:55:51 PM
LOL if you need help packing and sorting or running them to the shipper don't hesitate to ask.

Sounds like a series of accidents making this run a less than fun one.

Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on September 12, 2009, 05:27:43 PM
PM incoming Jango...
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: JANGO FETT on September 14, 2009, 06:52:12 AM
If you paid for a Li-ion or Nimh setup, I need to know.
I'm not sure how that's going to work, but I need to get a count together
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on September 14, 2009, 07:19:30 AM
I don't have any records or paperwork on it, but I was supposed to get the recharge ports on both of mine... Personally, I prefer standard batteries (because I like being able to throw new ones in when they die, which you can't really do with rechargables), so I'm not all that concerned about it either way.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: DerFrownmacher on September 15, 2009, 01:15:03 PM
I purchased a Li-Ion setup with what I believe was an out-of-hilt charge system.

Would you prefer a PM/EMail?
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: mrlamchop on September 15, 2009, 04:33:25 PM
i purchased Li ion in hilt
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Darth Doodie on September 15, 2009, 07:42:46 PM
I purchased my hilt to be setup for a 2AA li-ion out of hilt re-charge setup. I did not purchase the batteries or the charger because I already have them, and I wanted to save a little on the install fee. Hope this helps and thank you JANGO and DT for all your help.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: JANGO FETT on September 18, 2009, 06:58:47 AM
I have not received the remaining 9 orders paper work yet.
 I have sent DT an email asking if it has shipped, and if not that he provide a list of members names and their order details.

I am really at a standstill. I can complete 3 with what I have on hand. After that I am out of switches and battery packs.
It's rather difficult to make up a list of parts for Ultrasabers to send without the orders.

Contacting Ultra for the orders, is my next move.

 
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Darth Matth on September 18, 2009, 07:05:27 AM
Maybe we can send you our Paypal notifications and the list to pay, from DT?
I can send you mine if needed.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on September 18, 2009, 08:44:40 AM
I have sent my order receipts/confirmations from both US and Derek to josh@ultrasabers.com, in the hopes that it would help. should I send them anywhere else, or do they not help at all?
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: JANGO FETT on September 18, 2009, 09:04:06 AM
As have others, but until I get a list of the members sabers from DT has sent, I really can't move on anything.

Perhaps explaining it again would help.

DT sent 15 sabers, 15 boards, various parts and 6 orders
He did not send me all the OVERLORD sound installs, some he is completing himself. I do not have clairvoyance enough to know the order details on those he is keeping and the remaining 9 unknown builds in my possession.

For example:
I build Reaver's 2 overlords and send them out based on the orders he sent me.
DT does the same thing.
WOOHOO for Reaver, he has 4 Overlords!
But what about the other two members those orders were going to?

You guys want regular updates. I am providing them.

I have asked Ultra to send me the complete list, but I have not received it yet.
DT sent an email saying he has them ready and will scan them in and send them as soon as he is able. Darth Real Life permitting.

Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on September 18, 2009, 12:54:03 PM
Woo hoo for me! I'm kidding. After all we've been through, I'd never take someone's Overlords. I just want everyone to get theirs, and get this all behind us. A shame it's taking so long to get the specifics worked out. Halloween is looking less and less likely....

We appreciate the updates Jango. We know it's not your fault that things aren't progressing as expeditiously as we might like. I think this entire project may be cursed. It wouldn't surprise me for all of us to meet with strange and unfortunate accidents after we all get our respective sabers...
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on September 22, 2009, 07:51:41 PM
It's quiet... too quiet...
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Aluke123 on September 22, 2009, 07:52:46 PM
Give Jango a chance to work on the sabers! He has always been very good about updating people. If he hasn't posted anything, then there is nothing to post.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on September 22, 2009, 07:58:07 PM
I know it. Jango is always on top of things. It's the information that isn't getting to him that's the problem...

FYI - That was not meant as any sort of insult or attack on anyone, just hoping it doesn't take much longer!
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: JANGO FETT on September 23, 2009, 12:50:10 PM
I have not received any order info yet on the remaining 9, and frankly I'm tired of waiting. I offered to help DT out in this, but I assumed I would get all the info I need to get this moving in a timely manner.
Still waiting.

These are the options, I'm considering.


1.Packing the whole kit back up and sending it to AZ for US to assemble. They have all the info and parts needed. DT will just need to coordinate with them which ones he is building. I realize this would require opening lines of communication up, but THAT should have been done long ago. I should not have to be middleman in this

2.Completing the orders I have and sending them out, packing the remaining 9 kits back up and sending it to AZ for US to assemble. They have all the info and parts needed. DT will just need to coordinate with them which ones he is building. I realize this would require opening lines of communication up, but THAT should have been done long ago. I should not have to be middleman in this

3. Fronting the $$ myself for parts and build some basic units.
They will be setup with a swappable 4 AAA battery holder and 2 AA hold that will attach via velcro to the back of the speaker unit.
Main MLS units will not be assembled until orders arrive, but hopefully this will speed up the process.
in-hilt recharge will not be setup on any of these.

Exceptions
Darth Matth has a confirmed in-hilt NIMH setup
Orakaa wishes his to be sent to Gemini Concepts for assembly.

I would like to here your thoughts on this Overlord clients, so please chime in. 
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: hullbreach on September 23, 2009, 12:56:09 PM
Jango, can you please tell me if the OLs you've received include the stunt version orders? Thanks.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: JANGO FETT on September 23, 2009, 12:56:51 PM
15 hilts and 15 soundboards.

No stunts
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: hullbreach on September 23, 2009, 12:57:55 PM
Hm. Ah well, refund time.  :-\ Alex, if you're reading this, email request forthcoming.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Rion Ozryel on September 23, 2009, 01:19:33 PM
Build the ones you have and send the rest back to Ultra. Let him and DT hammer it out. It should not of gone on this far and you should not have been the middle man.

Hopefully Ultra will have better luck getting the needed information out of DT. It's quite the mess. After the last appearance of DT it seemed the ball was rolling in the right direction, now it seems stuck in the mud again.......

What parts are still needed? All I really need is my soundboard and the basic hilt with the MLS unit. I have switches, batteries, battery packs, cyan leds, and covertech knobs I can use to complete mine.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: JANGO FETT on September 23, 2009, 01:23:54 PM
I need the silver button guarded switches, AA & AAA battery holders, speakers, quick disconnects, capacitors, optics for the MLS, Ultrablades

Edit
Oh, and the orders. :)
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Gmar on September 23, 2009, 01:55:02 PM
Jango, your efforts here are universally appreciated.

I think that you doing whatever is best for you at this point, is appropriate.   Ultimately, Ultrasabers is responsible for filling these orders. 

I really only have one thing to say to those still waiting on the last run of OverLords:

You can count on me to make things right just like you always have.  If I need to, I will drop everything and make an entire new run of Overlords just for you.  If you don't want one anymore, I'll refund your money. Simple as that.

I'm really hoping it won't come to that. We heard from Derek just last week and he said he's building the sabers and shipping them out. I trust him.

But whatever happens, you can always trust in me and my company.  We've always held up our end of the deal and we'll make sure this deal is upheld as well.  We're not washing our hands of this in any way. We're just asking for a little more time to sort out the builds.  Thanks.

That post back in June gave me some hope.

Unfortunately, I would still like the saber.

Iíll send an e-mail off to Derek and Ultrasabers asking for a concrete, transparent timeline asking yet again to have the unassembled soundless, stunt sent to me.

If still no response, then Iím with Hullbreach.  We press for refunds and say goodbye to Ultrasabers LLC forever.

**EDITED ADDENDUM added to avoid double post**

Email sent to morbius@outerrimarmory.com and shipping@ultrasabers.com,

These are the contact addresses listed on http://www.ultrasabers.com/help_answer.asp?ID=17#46 (http://www.ultrasabers.com/help_answer.asp?ID=17#46) and http://www.outerrimarmory.com/home/index.php?option=com_contact&task=view&contact_id=1&Itemid=30 (http://www.outerrimarmory.com/home/index.php?option=com_contact&task=view&contact_id=1&Itemid=30), respectively.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Darth Kraytt on September 23, 2009, 04:58:58 PM
 Thank you Jango for all your communication and help with everything.
 I two considered to cancel both of mine, but was very optimistic when I heared that everything started moving again and decided to wait another month, but seeing that both of mine are stunts I don't forsee them in the near future... :'(
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Luke S. on September 23, 2009, 05:12:41 PM
I have sadly sat by and watched this tragedy at it has unfolded or not unfolded depending how you look at it.

Kraytt, I believe you are correct that it may take a very long time for you to get your sabers from ORA. 

IMO money talks.  IF you all ask for your refund like Alex has promised several times you will get one of two outcomes.  You either get your money back to spend on another saber of your choice that you may actually get or it forces the issue to the forefront and things actually get done.

It is obvious nothing is coming out of ORA any time soon as can be seen in the quote by Alex over 3 months ago saying "We heard from Derek just last week and he said he's building the sabers and shipping them out. I trust him."   The only shipment we have seen is the one Jango got of "unfinished" sabers.

I know you all want your sabers but IMO the only way to move things along at this point is to ask for your refund.  We need to put this sad chapter behind us. :'(
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on September 23, 2009, 11:29:54 PM
Wow. I'm sorry this continues to drag, but I'm glad to not be the lone voice calling for action...

Jango, your efforts have been beyond what anyone could have expected. As I said before, it seems crazy that anyone would jump into the middle of this mess as you did, and we all appreciate your efforts. The continual lack of support and information from US and ORA is beyond ridiculous. The fact that they aren't supporting you, who offered assistance when it was sorely needed, is unacceptable. The lack of concern for us, the customers, has been on display for some time now, but I didn't think it would extend itself to other builders, just trying to help. ORA and US are both snubbing their noses at all of us, which now includes Jango. Maybe this is the end for 2 companies, not just one. I can promise that, should no resolution happen soon, Ultrasabers will have taken it's last dollar from me...

As far as your actions, Jango, as much as the selfish side of me screams otherwise, I think you should finish the confirmed orders, and send the rest back to Ultrasabers. Granted, that probably means the other 9 of us whose sabers you have will probably never see them, but you need to get out of this mess. Untie this anchor from your foot, lest it drag you down with it. I don't think you should have to spend a penny on these things, and you've already spent far too much time. Get out now, while you still can, with your name and reputation unsullied.

Anyone at Ultrasabers, if you're reading, fix this. Fix it now. You're on a slippery slope now, as a company who gets a lot of it's business from communities such as this one. To alienate so many of your customers is beyond idiocy. Put this on the top of your priority list, and show people you actually care. Because we're not seeing it...
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on September 24, 2009, 12:01:08 AM

Email sent to morbius@outerrimarmory.com and shipping@ultrasabers.com,

These are the contact addresses listed on http://www.ultrasabers.com/help_answer.asp?ID=17#46 (http://www.ultrasabers.com/help_answer.asp?ID=17#46) and http://www.outerrimarmory.com/home/index.php?option=com_contact&task=view&contact_id=1&Itemid=30 (http://www.outerrimarmory.com/home/index.php?option=com_contact&task=view&contact_id=1&Itemid=30), respectively.


We could also send e-mails to the addressed below. one e-mail from each of us, to each of these addresses, every hour, on the hour. Of course, then they'd just block us, and send our e-mails to the trash...

Payments / Address Updates / Order Status:
shipping@ultrasabers.com

Repairs and Warranty info/ Retail
liam@ultrasabers.com
 
Technical questions concerning our sabers, sound boards, conversions or kits we offer:
alex@ultrasabers.com


***DISCLAIMER*** The above mentioned e-mail strategy was meant in a humorous fashion, and was by no means intended as a suggested course of action.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Gmar on September 24, 2009, 02:12:54 AM
Lol Reaver, however, there is still a valid point within your humor.

By using their designated e-mail addresses, I am trying to avoid one of the numerous excuses that we have all heard.  Some excuses are certainly valid, but some more than others. ;)

For example, I already know that Halloween is one of their busiest times of the year, and there is an expectation for a lag for a reasonable amount of time.

If you're on the list for an OverLord, your wait is almost over.

I have brought another machinist on board and I will now be able to complete this project before Halloween.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Darth Matth on September 24, 2009, 04:49:10 AM
So as I understand it;
All sabers are complete exept for 9 Overlords, who misses their Batteries and switches and a few other stuff.

Well, I dont think Jango have to pay for that himself.

If Ultra does not come out for that,...
Let us pay for this things together as a group.

My overlord is complete, but stiill, I want to pay my share also, to help the whole group out here.
I think all the guy's who are in this will join for that.
This way we can be done with it.

Jango, can you tell us about how much money we're talking about, so we can see how much are share would be.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Gmar on September 24, 2009, 05:45:13 AM
Remember, Jango only received 15 hilts.  The original run was for 30, which became 35 after 5 new slots were added in August 2008.

I have already offered to receive the saber unassembled.   While your offer to help pay for others' Overlords is commendable, for me, I don't see myself paying more. 
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: JANGO FETT on September 24, 2009, 06:02:40 AM
So as I understand it;
All sabers are complete exept for 9 Overlords, who misses their Batteries and switches and a few other stuff.
My overlord is complete, but stiill, I want to pay my share also, to help the whole group out here.
I think all the guy's who are in this will join for that.
This way we can be done with it.

None of them are complete. I have not started any installs, because I am still waiting on the remaining 9 orders paper work. The pictures earlier in the thread are where I stopped and started waiting for info.
I wanted to order all the parts at once to keep costs down.

No one is asking for more funds from you guys.
The only issue that may arise is the in-hilt recharge and chargers and li-ions.
I am not sure if Ultrasabers will be covering that, but I need a final count of whats needed in order to go forward.

Also,
Ultrasabers HQ is not holding this up. Flooding their inbox will not help any and I'm sure their other clients would appreciate you guys keeping the tubes clear.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Darth Matth on September 24, 2009, 06:12:05 AM
No one is asking for more funds from you guys.
The only issue that may arise is the in-hilt recharge and chargers and li-ions.
I am not sure if Ultrasabers will be covering that, but I need a final count of whats needed in order to go forward.
Yes, but Jango, if Ultra doesn't, we cannot expect you to pay for it.
I'm already glad you've jumped into this mess for us.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: OBI-WAN KENOBI on September 24, 2009, 07:15:45 AM
Although Jango received 15 Overlord hilts, Derek still kept several.  My two Overlords are among them.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Darth Matth on September 24, 2009, 07:32:58 AM
Hilts too,...
That is bad.

Hmm,... Ultra did make a new serie of those, so that is to be fixed easy.
He only has to make the decision.
There is no time for thinking about it, not anymore.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on September 24, 2009, 07:48:43 AM
This splitting of orders is, as I understand it, the biggest problem. Because there is no paperwork, and Jango doesn't know who has what, other than those confirmed 6. I am disturbed to hear that Jango didn't get all of them. Considering the fact that nothing other than this one shipment has come from ORA in many months, I have no great hope of the sabers he kept (for no apparent reason, considering how often he has said he has no time/money/desire to work on them) EVER reaching their owners. And the delay in paperwork is just another in a long line of stalling/delay tactics that we've all seen too often.

I'm happy for the 6 people who may actually get their Overlords. The rest of us - we're screwed. Plain and simple. Time to accept it, and ask for our money back. That's nearly a grand for me, what with the sabers, boards and install fees.

Can we start to make a list to see who is in on the refund movement? I know, we all want these sabers. But I am NOT ready to wait another year for them. And I won't believe any timeline that anyone gives me at this point, because not a single one has been met. We need to present a united front here, and make it clear to Ultra and everyone else that we're done being ignored and aren't going to sit back and take it any more...

I'm going to ast for a refund on my 2 Overlords, so who else is ready to take some action?
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: QUI-GON JINN on September 24, 2009, 12:23:58 PM
Although Jango received 15 Overlord hilts, Derek still kept several.  My two Overlords are among them.
As is mine.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on September 24, 2009, 01:09:52 PM
Is there any explanation as to WHY Derek held onto some?
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Darth Kraytt on September 24, 2009, 05:26:52 PM
And he also has two of mine... :-\
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Rion Ozryel on September 24, 2009, 05:36:05 PM
I think it's about time those "What If" plans are implemented......
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: OBI-WAN KENOBI on September 24, 2009, 06:01:12 PM
I recently obtained Derek's phone numbers and will be giving him a call soon regarding the Overlords he still has, as well as the parts and order info that Jango still needs for the hilts he already sent.

Since he has previously indicated that people don't call him, we'll try this route first.  If this is unsuccessful, then perhaps everyone should possibly start looking into the refund option if you feel that's what's best for you.  Until then, hang tight. 

I'll get back to everyone soon.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on September 24, 2009, 08:17:03 PM
No offense to anyone, but if we each had a dime for each time someone told us to be patient while they try to get answers, especially in this situation, we'd all be very rich people by now. This whole situation has been one long delay, with intermittent semi-updates and promises of shipping, only one of which has (partially) happened. Why doesn't Jango have the paperwork? Why doesn't US know what is what? Why did Derek hold on to any of the sabers when he said he wants nothing to do with it? This whole thing stinks more every day, and I just want it over with. And I doubt I'm alone.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: JANGO FETT on September 25, 2009, 06:03:56 AM
I have decided.

I'm going with option #3
Quote
3. Fronting the $$ myself for parts and build some basic units.
They will be setup with a swappable 4 AAA battery holder and 2 AA hold that will attach via velcro to the back of the speaker unit.
Main MLS units will not be assembled until orders arrive, but hopefully this will speed up the process.
in-hilt recharge will not be setup on any of these.

On the orders I have.
Orakaa wishes his to be sent to Gemini Concepts for assembly. I will ship it next week.
The other five will be built as ordered.

The remaining 9 will be built as basic units without any in-hilt recharge or main LEDs and sent to Ultrasabers HQ for them to distribute to their proper owners.
This effectively takes the matter out of my hands, and US HQ will need to coordinate with DT on who's getting what.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on September 25, 2009, 07:24:54 AM
Not the choice I would have made, but that's ok. I think this is going to end up being money you'll never get back, to build sabers that may or may not ever get to their perspective owners. It's kind and generous of you, but I don't really think it's warranted in this case.

Anyway, I hope you get them done quickly, and out of your life. It's still a great thing that you jumped into this thing to help, and I'm sorry it has turned on you and bitten. I told you, this project is cursed, and ends up hurting everyone it touches...
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: QUI-GON JINN on September 25, 2009, 10:48:37 AM
Is there any explanation as to WHY Derek held onto some?
Yes,  there is....well,  at least on mine anyway,  and Obi-wan's....to add a few extra things on them....not sure why he kept the others.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on September 25, 2009, 12:59:27 PM
And we still think that's going to happen? After the money issues, and him seemingly wanting to wash his hands of this whole affair (as we all are, at this point)? I'm astounded that he kept any, much less to install "extra" features on them. Which begs the question, why are some getting extras, and not all? And why is it that the remaining 5 names haven't been given to Jango? It would take all of what, 3 seconds, to send an e-mail with the names? Jango could then get shipping/contact info from the purchasers directly, if the paperwork is a hassle to get sent...

crazy
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: QUI-GON JINN on September 25, 2009, 01:22:49 PM
And we still think that's going to happen? After the money issues, and him seemingly wanting to wash his hands of this whole affair (as we all are, at this point)? I'm astounded that he kept any, much less to install "extra" features on them. Which begs the question, why are some getting extras, and not all? And why is it that the remaining 5 names haven't been given to Jango? It would take all of what, 3 seconds, to send an e-mail with the names? Jango could then get shipping/contact info from the purchasers directly, if the paperwork is a hassle to get sent...

crazy
Yes,  I do....you can believe what you want,  I have been without it for this long,  I will wait until it shows up.  Why was my Overlord to get something extra?  Because DT and I got to be pretty good friends and I,  and Sam as well,  helped him out greatly in the past....so he felt the need to do something extra to ours.  I told him at the time it was not necessary,  but DT is somewhat stubborn,  and insisted.  WHEN I get it,  you'll see what I mean.  Am I happy it's taken this long?  Not really....but I understand what can happen when you have to have an unexpected surgery since I had one myself at nearly the same time Derek did.  And his was much more serious.  (And no,  I don't doubt for a second that he actually had the procedure he says he did.)  I guess I'm one of those people that likes to give my friends the benefit of the doubt....I'm sure I'd have a hard time keeping things straight if I had the things happen to me that have happened and are probably still happening to Derek.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on September 25, 2009, 06:20:01 PM
Well, that does make sense, if there were previous arrangements made for custom work. No one ever said that, or I might not have questioned it.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Darth Matth on September 28, 2009, 04:19:46 AM
A deep bow for Jango.
A great thing your doing man.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Onli-Won Kanomi on September 28, 2009, 11:24:29 AM
Well said Qui Gon,

and yes a bow for Jango
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: JANGO FETT on October 11, 2009, 04:20:15 PM
I appreciate the kudos, but we are not out of the woods yet.

Tomorrow, I will be calling Alex and sending in a list of parts. This has be up long enough, so I there are any stragglers that pop up, they will be dealt with on a case by case basis.

My build log is down to the JQsabers CF installs, and I hope to complete them prior to the parts arrival.

I may post a new thread with a build log and assembly photos, in the QUI GON JINN style as I go along to try and keep this interesting.
We'll see.

Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on October 11, 2009, 09:56:48 PM

I may post a new thread with a build log and assembly photos, in the QUI GON JINN style as I go along to try and keep this interesting.
We'll see.


That would be great. Not only would we feel a bit more informed along the way, but it's always cool to see work in progress!
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: QUI-GON JINN on October 11, 2009, 10:07:16 PM

I may post a new thread with a build log and assembly photos, in the QUI GON JINN style as I go along to try and keep this interesting.
We'll see.


That would be great. Not only would we feel a bit more informed along the way, but it's always cool to see work in progress!
Yes,  that would be cool!
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Onli-Won Kanomi on October 12, 2009, 08:40:46 AM
It certainly would be interesting...and also helpful for those of us who are getting the silver Overlord bodies that Vaders Vault are going to make.

We are celebrating Thanksgiving here in Canada so Thank You once again Jango for what you are doing for us with these Overlords.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: JANGO FETT on October 12, 2009, 09:58:10 PM
Parts list sent to Alex. ;D

Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on October 16, 2009, 10:17:03 AM
Anything back from Alex yet, as far as getting you the parts? Just curious.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: JANGO FETT on October 16, 2009, 10:28:33 AM
http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=17199.0 (http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=17199.0)
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Darth Matth on October 16, 2009, 12:37:16 PM
Hahahaha, I was waiting for it. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: JANGO FETT on October 16, 2009, 07:20:25 PM
I spoke to Alex this evening, and the parts are ether on the way here or being packed.

Let me explain. I have a few orders coming from US and received 2 shipping notifications today.
Parts could be in one of them :-\

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi20.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb219%2FNailbunny375%2Fdomonews.jpg&hash=e0f7b94b0dc215cfd8bed4b5d435a98f) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b219/Nailbunny375/domonews.jpg)

"This is Jango, with Domo News, and that's the way it is"
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: darth_call on October 16, 2009, 07:31:02 PM
(https://www.elarceny.com/c101/gnu.jpg)

There's no gnu's like GOOD gnu's!


woulda have to have grown up in the 70's to understand.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Master Jedye on October 16, 2009, 07:36:22 PM
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3273/2787426344_5b8e8a073d.jpg)

That is INDEED good news.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Darth Matth on October 17, 2009, 02:35:52 AM
You guy's are sick. :D :D :D
Be grownups!!!

In the mean time, I'm gonna play with my lightsabers. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on October 25, 2009, 01:00:48 AM
Anything new? Last post about shipments on the way was 10 days ago. I thought we might at least have heard by now that the parts did or did not arrive...
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: JANGO FETT on October 25, 2009, 03:55:59 AM
No parts have been received, yet.


(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi20.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb219%2FNailbunny375%2Fdomonews.jpg&hash=e0f7b94b0dc215cfd8bed4b5d435a98f) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b219/Nailbunny375/domonews.jpg)

"This is Jango, with Domo News, and that's the way it is"
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on October 25, 2009, 09:29:58 AM
And you wonder why people are still asking for refunds? This story is old and boring. How many times did we hear from ORA that things are shipping, only to wait months and hear nothing, then find out they didn't? Or that there was a post office screw up? Or that something happened with paperwork? Or that a wormhole opened up and sucked in the USPS truck that the parts were on, and we're waiting for it to return from another dimension? Sam Neil is probably playing with the parts now, on the Event Horizon. Did ultra send them via Pony Express?

Seriously, this is just too frustrating. Delay after delay, without any reason. No communication from Ultra. The same record keeps skipping, and the song is terrible.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: JANGO FETT on October 25, 2009, 12:15:41 PM
I asked mrlamchop why he wanted a refund, after he had already confirmed his order in the thread. He decision, I just wanted to know why.

The two shipping notices I received were for my personal orders. The Overlord parts have not shipped yet.

If you want refunds ask for them.

I DON'T CARE ANY LONGER

When the parts come in I will still build the sabers as ordered and send them complete for US HQ to ship out.
If you were refunded, I'm sure you will see your build in the quick ship category.

Between Reavers badgering and shadeslinger's off color commentary, my sympathies for everyone in this situation have vanished.
2 bad apples have spoiled the cart.
My patience has finally run out.

NO WIP thread will be posted.
Do not PM or Email on this issue, unless it is an address change.

I will post when the Overlords parts arrive.
I will post when the completed Overlords ship to Ultrasabers HQ for shipping.

If you have a problem with this seek and Arbiter or Admin.





Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Jaden Korr on October 25, 2009, 02:34:35 PM

Between Reavers badgering and shadeslinger's off color commentary, my sympathies for everyone in this situation have vanished.
2 bad apples have spoiled the cart.
My patience has finally run out.


I would think those that left you hanging (ORA and Ultra) would have already thinned your patience enough. Seems like the shenanigans of 2 disgruntled customers would pale in comparison to the utter cluster F that those 2 left you with.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: JANGO FETT on October 25, 2009, 03:15:48 PM
ultra has a parts list, and I actually trust him to send it.
This is one of the busiest times of the year and it helps fund projects like the Overlords and Banes.
I don't fault them for taking some time to get the parts  list together, when some of the items are not carried by TCSS

Only one person is ultimately responsible.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on October 25, 2009, 03:40:23 PM
ultra has a parts list, and I actually trust him to send it.
This is one of the busiest times of the year and it helps fund projects like the Overlords and Banes.
I don't fault them for taking some time to get the parts  list together, when some of the items are not carried by TCSS

Only one person is ultimately responsible.


AGREED.

Reaver and others, I would remind you that Jango took this project on in order to help you and the others waiting for their Overlords.  This was not his burden to bear, but he chose to shoulder it anyway to help you.  I can certainly understand your frustration.  However, you are taking it out on the wrong person.  Jango has been nothing but honorable throughout the process and has always given updates when he has something to report.  Let him get through this.  You all have been waiting a long time, I know.  But Jango came into the picture relatively recently.  Give him a chance to help you before throwing rotten tomatoes.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Darth Matth on October 25, 2009, 04:05:16 PM
Yes indeed, I was a bit shocked to read this.
If you get heated up write Alex/Ultra directly.
Don't take it out on Jango.
He's our friend.
I'm just so very glad he's working with us on this, and I think most of us.
He is waiting for that stuff from Ultra, and what he wrote about Ultra; "This is one of the busiest times of the year and it helps fund projects like the Overlords and Banes." is understandable.
Ultra has beat up on this too,  but when you cannot take it anymore, which is also understandable, please I suggest to write Alex for that.
If you do, yes we would like to hear about that result as well. ;) :D


Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Serafel on October 26, 2009, 01:03:01 AM
What to say ? Shade and Reaver have been notified many times that their comportments were silly (and no, not funny at all). You've won it all with your daily (for Reaver), endless end pointless comments. GG.

Take your time Jango, I'll still be happy the day my overlord will cross my door, and I'll know who I can thank for that.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Onli-Won Kanomi on October 26, 2009, 02:14:21 AM
In everyone's life there exists the possibility, and usually the presence, of suffering. Indeed there are philosophies and religions that postulate that life IS suffering...but equally ubiquitously, and perhaps as inherent in the 'human condition', as suffering is the bitter bite of disappointment . It often happens as a result of allowing ourselves to have expectations, but it happens to almost all of us. And since it does happen to almost all of us what separates and defines us is, as with suffering, our comportment in the face of disappointments. Which can be with grace and dignity or with petulance and immaturity. Showing 'attitude' to someone who has kindly volunteered to help members of this community over a situation everyone agrees is unfortunate all around displays a lack of gratitude that is regrettable.

Is it too incomprehensible to imagine that a little gratitude instead of attitude might be appreciated hmm?

As serafel wisely said:
"Take your time Jango, I'll still be happy the day my overlord will cross my door, and I'll know who I can thank for that."


 
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on October 26, 2009, 04:50:24 AM
I just don't understand people. My posts are never meant to rip on Jango. In fact, 9/10 of them are meant to support him. It has ALWAYS been US and ORA I've been angry at/frustrated with, and still am. I have thanked Jango publicly time and time again for his effort in the madness that is this project. If my requests for any sort of updates seems excessive, I'm sorry you feel that way. I don't think they are. On average, they came at 2-week intervals. I don't see that as "constant" or "daily" by any stretch of the imagination. This project HAS followed the same pattern since day 1. Delay, Excuse, Silence, Repeat... And I have said over and over, it's the silence that is the absolute worst. But this is all on Ultra now, not Jango. If you feel I've been attacking him, you misunderstand.

We, as customers, have the RIGHT to be outraged at the constant unexplained delays. We have the RIGHT to demand some sort of action and communication from Alex. Thousands of our dollars are tied up in this project, and he's basically ignoring us. Yeah, it's Halloween. Yeah, their busy. But they are a business, and ignoring one segment of their customer base because their are others is unacceptable. No sympathy or understanding from me. Once, but not any more. Their are 2 types of situations here. There's Jango, who is doing this basically as a favor. He we have no right to be mad at. I'm not, and never have been. And there's Ultrasabers, who is not a group of friends doing other friends a solid. They are a company, who has been more than happy to take our money, but have failed to follow through on delivery, failed to deal with their contractors, failed to communicate, and still do. A business, people. That's what you need to keep in mind. A business needs to be held accountable, and they continue to snub their noses at us. THAT is unacceptable.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on October 26, 2009, 05:54:16 AM
Reaver, your last post prior to this one was addressed directly to Jango, which is why there have been some gentle reminders from myself and other members that, yes, Jango is doing this as a favor and it is an extremely generous thing he is doing.  For him to deal with this issue is personally costing him thousands of dollars in lost time.  Time he could be spending with loved ones, time he could be working, time he could be fishing (don't know if he fishes ;D), time he could be making sabers to sell or for his own personal satisfaction.  I don't know if you realize how much actual TIME it takes to build a saber? 

No one is debating your right to be outraged.  You have every right!  When Jango says it is Halloween, they are busy, and the income they make this time of year helps fuel these runs (and also the redos and refunds) he is simply stating a fact.  Ultrasabers is not Microsoft.  It is going to be costly for them to take care of this issue.  From what I can see, they ARE attempting to do so albeit more slowly than you would like.  They need to concentrate on their Halloween business to take care of you all and to take care of their business so they can continue providing their excellent products to the community.

I do not chastize you for venting, or for asking for updates.  You are within your rights to do so.  But don't lash out at the one island of sanity in all this who has graciously given his own time to help you.  He does not deserve that.  Reserve your anger for those that deserve it ;)
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Darth Matth on October 26, 2009, 06:37:56 AM
Ahhh, maybe it's because this is a topic from Jango, why it felt like you where attacking him.
Your last post is very clear though.
I think it's best to mail Alex directly on this than, so nobody else is answering for him but Alex alone.
I totally understand though.
For myself,... I moved this away and try to think about other stuff for a while.
I trust Jango will resolve this matter on the end.
Or Jango gets crazy from this matter also and send this whole deal to Ultra himself.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on October 26, 2009, 06:42:27 AM
You're right, Luminara, it was addressed directly to Jango. It wasn't meant as a vent AT him, as much as it was TO him. My fault for not being clear. I will reiterate again my appreciation to him for jumping into this mess. And I will apologize if my venting and frustration seem to be aimed his way. It isn't, and never has been.

I'm going to ask Jango to send me My Overlords and boards unassembled. I really wanted them done by him, because I know he'd do a far better job than my feeble skills would alow, but this waiting on US to do right by us (including Jango) Is simply making me more angry and bitter, and rather than continuing to wait, continuing to vent, and continuing to just make Jango's life, and other folks here on the boards lives) less pleasant, I'll just do them myself, and then o away for a while. My presense is a disruption and distraction that has become unnecessary and counter productive to the whole.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Darth Matth on October 26, 2009, 07:30:06 AM
Understandable.
Personally, I do think it's a matter of weeks now.
Don't leave the forum though. 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: Reaver on October 26, 2009, 09:17:30 AM
I honestly and truly hope you're right. I hope it is a matter of weeks, rather than months. I hope it is for your sake, for the sake of everyone else waiting, and for Jango's sake. These things need to be done. They need to stop being a huge thorn in the side of this community. I hope Alex gets moving on getting Jango the parts he needs. But I'm not holding my breath for a quick resolution. And knowing myself, I know I'll just get more and more frustrated as time goes on. It would be better for everyone here for these things to sit unassembled at my place than for me to sit here waiting for Alex to get the parts to Jango. I've said enough, and it's making no difference. Believe it or not, I don't enjoy wasting my time, trying to get the attention of Ultrasabers. They're simply not listening, and don't care.

I also think that those people waiting all this time, who purchased the UltraSound 2.0 the day they came out specifically for these sabers, deserve an upgrade to the 2.5. For these ridiculously long delays, fumbled handling of the situation all along the way, and just out of general decency. But again, that would all depend on the company in question caring enough about this small number of their customers to try to do right by them. Breath not being held for that to change.
Title: Re: Overlords going to Florida
Post by: JANGO FETT on November 17, 2009, 08:02:38 PM
Locked

Update
http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=21358.msg318009#msg318009 (http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=21358.msg318009#msg318009)

Please continue any questions or discussions there.