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Title: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Luke S. on February 09, 2007, 04:44:02 PM
In the next few days I am going to clean up this thread.  I will post an ongoing list in the first post and continue to update it as new members come forward of either unfinished or finished transactions.

Please modify your current posts with as much info as you can in the following format.  This will make it easier for me to update.


Example:
                                       Date paid                     Last communication                      Estimated delivery
US2.1                               6/7/09                                  6/7/09                                         6/7/09
2 Poly-c blades
Install service
Custom build
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Senti Xamas on July 30, 2009, 04:37:27 PM
I realize there is alot of people out there waiting patiently for their Overlords, and it has been brought to my attention for other transactions to not be posted there. This thread has been created for those of us who have had dealings with Outer Rim Armory / Darth Tyranus, and HAVE NOT RECEIVED ITEMS only. I have had dealings with DT in the past, and they were usually great. However, lately with the "sickness" and all, many transactions have not been shipped. I recently did a trade with DT for a conversion service. I had an Anakin ROTS, that I traded for a conversion service on my Luke ROTJ saber. It was an even trade straight across.

 It was stated eight months ago that the saber was finished and ready to be shipped. That was quite a while ago, and I was told several different times after that it was ready to ship. I am still waiting patiently for it, but its getting ridiculous. I realize there are "forces" out of our control, sickness, family issues, force lightning, that we all deal with sometimes. The time comes though when the customer should be taken care of. This whole ordeal leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but wont sway me from a hobby that I truly enjoy. I hope that things on your end get better DT, I truly do. But lets get some kind of word from the horses mouth as to the situation. Thank you.

Anakin ROTS Trade                 date traded:           Last communication:           Estimated Delivery:     
for Luke ROTJ Conv.                   2/?/09                          4/28/09                               4/30/09     
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: DARTH MAUL on July 30, 2009, 04:42:57 PM

Joe Jedi Board                                Date Paid                     Last Communication          Estimated Delivery
2x Luke MR Empty Hilts                   6/5/09                                6/5/09                           None, no communication after payment sent
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: JANGO FETT on July 30, 2009, 05:02:17 PM
This is fine Senti Xamas.  ;)

Please be advised that if this is not keep clean and factual, it will be removed and the posters may receive disciplinary action.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Senti Xamas on July 30, 2009, 05:09:05 PM
Duly noted good sir ;)
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Reaver on July 30, 2009, 11:36:25 PM
This is a thread which could fill up quickly. lol
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Onli-Won Kanomi on July 31, 2009, 03:30:25 AM
Well if this is indeed the correct place I should note that a number of months ago I ordered 3 Imperial Knight pommels as part of the last IK pommel run and paid for 2 with DT sending one gratis in compensation for problems with a previous parts order.

[btw he actually offered to send me all three free which was much more generous than necessary for one part that was only worth the cost of one and that offer is a sign of and reason why I still believe in his good character...but I asked him to let me pay for the two and just send me one free in fair compensation and we agreed on that and I did so]

After the IK pommel knight run was machined and shipping out we agreed that he would ship it along with my Overlord with Ultrasound which at that time [before or shortly after the US2.0 recall iirc?] was expected to be a few weeks later which was fully acceptable to me since I did not have any immediate project in mind for the IK pommels at that time.

I am now, like others, still waiting patiently for the Overlord [and for the above reason have not lost faith in him even for that] but with that waiting I have also been waiting for the IK pommels to ship with it as agreed to.

However even though the agreement between us connected this IK pommel issue with that of the Overlords since we are told to post other outstanding transaction matters than Overlords here in this thread I am doing so now.

Derek I still have faith in you that I will receive my Overlord in time.

I would also like to receive my Imperial Knight pommels...both the two I paid for in the run and the compensatory one.

As time has rolled on I now find I do have a near-term use for them...on the forthcoming silver Overlord hilt bodies.

So I would prefer to have the IK pommels shipped to me now, separately from the Overlord matter.

I am of course willing to pay you for that separate shipping now...just let me know how much it will cost and I will do so forthwith.

And I still pray for your and your family's well being and your full recovery both in health and financially.

Good Luck.

Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Shadeslinger on July 31, 2009, 05:07:58 AM
This hasn't arrived yet: http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=16622.0 (http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=16622.0)
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Darth Raijlin on July 31, 2009, 06:18:07 AM
Derek has a Custom Anakin AOTC of mine since about December 2008 (a former spaghetti mess from Equinox) and has been great with updates and whatnot, explaining that he had to work on the Overlords, UltraSound installs, and other projects first, so I've simply waited in line the last couple of months.  Plus, I may know more about what's going on with his personal life than most of the people here, so I'm simply standing by to stand by.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: JANGO FETT on July 31, 2009, 06:33:07 AM
This is a thread which could fill up quickly. lol

Perhaps, but it could help DT as on online reference guide to see what needs to be completed.
I understand everyone's frustration and anger, but we can help get this organized and move forward and get some sabers shipped.
We have a great community here, let's keep it that way.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: QUI-GON JINN on July 31, 2009, 06:44:49 AM
There were two Anakin ROTS FX soundboards that I bought from him back in June too.  Just thought I'd add that as a reminder,  in case it got overlooked.  ;)
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Master Jedye on July 31, 2009, 06:47:24 AM
Small fries, compared to most of you...but Jango brings up a good point...soooo

From ORA, I've ordered 2 white p4's, 2 blue p4's and a TCSS V1 pommel, which I still haven't recieved. (this was ordered when his new website went up).  The pommel was for a customer who requested it on his build...since it never came, a replacement, leading to a minor design change, was used.

That being said and in all fairness, I also must state that we have ordered things before from him and while shipping was slow...the items had always shown up.  

   Items                            Date paid                     Last communication                      Estimated delivery
2 white p4 LEDs              March 09                              June 09                                         March 09
2 blue p4 LEDs
TCSS v1 pommel
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: QUI-GON JINN on July 31, 2009, 06:57:48 AM
That being said and in all fairness, I also must state that we have ordered things before from him and while shipping was slow...the items had always shown up.  

I have to echo MJ's statement here as well....DT has always shipped me the things I have bought from him in the past,  and this is the first time it's ever taken this long.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: morrisart85 on July 31, 2009, 10:30:16 AM
I did all of the design work on his website and forums in exchange for an overlord saber,.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: JudgeSabersmith on July 31, 2009, 11:52:00 AM
DT has always be a square-dealing guy with me, so I am not lodging this as a complaint.  I sent DT a selection of MHS parts and MRFX parts to turn into a somewhat hybrid Luke V2 saber.  This has been quite some time ago (well over a year).  I never pestered about it, because it was supposed to be a project done in between other things.  If DT can't get to it, I'd like the parts returned to me.  I'll even pay the shipping.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: OBI-WAN KENOBI on July 31, 2009, 12:32:11 PM
Like many others, I've also had numerous pleasant transactions with Derek in the past, so this whole mess really did come as a surprise when it first started taking shape.  There's no two ways about it, now it has completely spiraled out of control and needs to be resolved one way or another.

In the hopes of receiving a concrete update from Derek the last few weeks/months, I've been reluctant to post anything.  But in the absence of any communication via PM/email, which I have attempted, I think it's now time that I post my outstanding transactions (excluding my two Overlords), if only to streamline things for you in this whole fiasco, Derek.

1) Two CF 4.0 boards (sent to be installed in the two Overlords, which Derek received from Ultra)

2) One CF 2.63 board.  This board was slated to be, and was, installed by Derek in an MR Luke V2 ROTJ (see #3), a project I initiated in early 2008.  The board was apparently damaged/fried (I honestly don't even remember anymore) during the initial install process in the saber and was subsequently sent to Erv from Derek for repair.  I have not received any update on this board since.

3) MR Luke ROTJ.  This saber was sent to Derek for a V2 project  (I even let him have the stock Jedi sound board that was in it, at his request  ;)).  The saber was sent to Derek in April of 2008.  He actually did complete this saber, for which there is a thread here.  I never received it back at any point, though.  The delay in this project began when the CF 2.63 board got damaged, as Derek had indicated to me.

4) Not really my saber anymore per se, but I sold a rare, Yoda-made Anakin ROTS Graflex hilt here last year.  Derek showed interest, but offered to take the saber in exchange for the full install fee on the Luke V2 and part of the fee on the Overlords.  I was more than happy to accomodate, so the Graflex was sent to Derek.

5) An Ultrasound board that was previously sent to Derek.  Since he had it at the time upgrades were being offered, I sent him Ultra's upgrade fee to have the board sent in.

I hope this helps keep things organized.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Rion Ozryel on July 31, 2009, 11:00:55 PM
This is my first dealing with Derek and it's obviously left a very bad taste in my mouth. In addition to the Overlord he has yet to send me. I paid him though the forums for a sound install and sent him my personal UltraSound 2.0. I even paid him to have the upgrade done to it. So in addition to the Overlord, Derek owes me an Ultrasound 2.1.

                            Date paid                     Last communication                             Estimated delivery
US2.1                    10/18/08                              6/09                                         "next couple weeks" as stated in June
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: darth_call on August 01, 2009, 05:09:06 AM
I have just finished cleaning up this thread, ...if your was removed, it is because their was no indication in the post that a transaction with ORA has occurred.

Unless you have an outstanding order with OuterRim Armory, refrain from posting in this thread. This is not a discussion topic, nor is it a topic to express your opinion, (especially if u have no dealings with ORA or outstanding orders).

We will NOT have THIS thread hijacked by views and opinions of people who are not in the same boat as the people who have paid for sabers, parts or services from ORA and not received items.

Derek has the right to reply, and hopefully will do so. We do not need speculation on other people's part in THIS matter.

Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Orakaa on August 01, 2009, 06:18:20 AM
Actually, I paid 2 polyc tubes from him a few weeks ago (which I didn't receive).

Honestly, I don't care about that (but I do care about my overlord). I just hope Derek will get better on all aspects of his life and that this situation will be dealt with in the end
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Darth_Pceptimus on August 01, 2009, 06:23:34 AM
I am still waiting for my US2.1 from Derek i have recieved no mails or pm's at all.

                                       Date paid                     Last communication                      Estimated delivery
US2.1                              DOABoard                    13/5/09                                         18/5/09
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Luke S. on August 01, 2009, 11:14:31 AM
In the next few days I am going to clean up this thread.  I will post an ongoing list in the first post and continue to update it as new members come forward of either unfinished or finished transactions.

Please modify your current posts with as much info as you can in the following format.  This will make it easier for me to update.


Example:
                                       Date paid                     Last communication                      Estimated delivery
US2.1                               6/7/09                                  6/7/09                                         6/7/09
2 Poly-c blades
Install service
Custom build
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Tomoyo on August 01, 2009, 02:34:56 PM
                                                   Date paid                     Last communication                      Estimated delivery
Vader ESB Sound board                    6/4/09                         6/5/09                                       Saturday of that weekend
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: PokerJedi on August 01, 2009, 10:39:37 PM
                                                        Date paid                     Last communication                      Estimated delivery
3 US2.1                                       Can't remember                    6/2/09 {Phone}                             5/14/09 (before issues started)
2 Stunt (DSC & Hero) repairs
Imperial Knight (DSC v1)
2 IK pommels (1 on the Knight)
5 MLS units (L3 Orange, P4 green, P4 Blue, P4 White, L5 Cyan)

To clarify this list above, 2 of the US 2.1s are already installed in the Overlord & the IK.  2 of the 5 MLS units are meant to be included as part of the Overlord & IK assemblies. 

I echo Onli-Won's & Obi-Wan's comments.  I still have nothing but great things to say about Derek.  It is extremely unfortunate and dis-heartening for me to see Derek endure his current series of hardships- I pray for him & his family to perservere.

In his defense, he offered to ship my stunts seperately back in February- Since the 2.1s were due (any day then) and I had no immediate need for the stunts, I offered to let him keep them and ship everything together in order to help him save money on shipping costs.

In light of these recent events, I know personally that he has suffered tremendously; the kind of suffering that I wouldn't even wish upon my worst enemy.  I still have incredible faith that the above items will find their way back to my Jedi hovel in the very near future. 

Personal note to those of you who have been complaining {you know who you are...}: my IK has been in his custody* (due to very pesky US 1.1 issues & US 2 delays) for the greater part of the past 2.5 years- I haven't mentioned it publicly (much less complained about it) until now.  If that's not an exercise in patience, I don't know what is... I've been patient beyond comparison; why can't the rest of you cry-babies be (for a much shorter time)?!?!?!

Tim the PokerJedi

*footnote: my original IK pommel was the basis for the new & improved pommel run that Derek had made- the original was too thick in the speaker port area.  The newly thinned-out pommel vastly improves sound quality & volume.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Onli-Won Kanomi on August 02, 2009, 05:18:17 AM
I'm sorry this has upset you.

We were told to list other outstanding items of business here in order to separate them from the Overlord matter...I don't believe it was intended to create a 'pitchforks and torches' atmosphere...simply to keep the Overlord thread from being filled up with other matters.

Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Luke S. on August 02, 2009, 06:03:42 AM
I'm sorry this has upset you.

We were told to list other outstanding items of business here in order to separate them from the Overlord matter...I don't believe it was intended to create a 'pitchforks and torches' atmosphere...simply to keep the Overlord thread from being filled up with other matters.


That is correct.  No one desires to create that atmosphere.  The members started a list and I am simply organizing it for them.  The first post is now mine to organize but I did NOT start this thread.  This thread was started by the members with outstanding orders.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Senti Xamas on August 02, 2009, 09:21:39 AM
Derek, I only started this thread because the Overlord thread was so full of different things, that other people wondering about their stuff were not able to post about it. I in no way wanting this thread to be a flaming thread. We do all have the right to be anxious for our stuff, anyone would agree. I have a very dear friend going through almost the exact situation now as you, but with different health problems. Its a real drag, and if I have come across as not caring to you, im sorry. If you need some extra cash since the shipping rates surely have doubled, all you have to do is pm me and I will gladly help you out. I have dealt with you pleasantly in the past, and trust that everything will work out soon.

Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Darth_Pceptimus on August 02, 2009, 05:04:09 PM
Yep Keep em coming...

I like to have a daily reminder of my inadequacies as a human piece of crap. 

Not like I have records of this, and LUKE took it upon himself to go on ahead with this. Thanks Buddy.

Shall I ship rakes, torches and pitchforks with all the other stuff that I cannot afford to ship out right now.

This is just ridiculous.

 


I did say i will pay for the postage you said i didn't have to as it was a doa board my offer still stands to pay for the shipping....
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Shadeslinger on August 03, 2009, 08:44:04 AM
Let me be clear on this.

I wouldn't retract anything I've posted in these ridiculous threads lately....those that are still here and those that've been deleted (and yes, I understand that the deletions were fair btw). I'm not angry. I find these situations comical. So.

@Tyranus: Yes I've made some snide remarks. I plan on contunuing $190 worth of snide remarks. If my order ever makes it to me then I guess that's great, if not, I've already written it off anyway. No pressure, no worries! So, feel free to put my order on the very back of the burner if you really feel you must fulfill some sort of professional obligation. :) As for whatever problems you've been having in your life, I'm not going to make much of a comment on it, because 1. It's none of my business, nor do I want it to be. and 2. It has little to do with a business transaction. I haven't had my plumber explain to me that my toilet is gonna stew some turds for a few weeks because off (insert personal problem) and thank god, he was a hideous [self-edit] so who knows what that story'd be like. ::) Does that make me sound like a heartless, uncaring [self-edit]? Perhaps. And maybe right now I am. I care less as the days go by what members here think of me. My loss huh? :-\

@everyone else: You get fed the same line of [self-edit] you've been hearing for the last few months and you're already lining up for the [self-edit] kissing? Just reading some of the posts in the various ORA threads have made me laugh. :D. I realize at this point that you're all hella more mature than myself. No seriously. ;) Anyway, I wish you all the best of luck.

Again, I'm not upset, just lmao.     
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: DarthE on August 03, 2009, 09:19:49 PM
In November I shipped a red Dominix to you guys for repair which you
 received. However it has been 10 months since then and I still have not
 gotten it. In January i sent an email to Derek and he assured me it would
 arrive shortly yet here we are and it still has not arrived. This is
 simply inexcusable and extremely poor customer service, not to mention my
 money was essentially stolen.. I believe it was Derek who had my saber.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Darth_Pceptimus on August 04, 2009, 04:06:26 AM
All i have ever been after is a confirmation that you have my new contact details. the last mail i sent was through the ORA shop mail system. I know i will get my board and i do understand that there are other people that have been waiting for items a lot longer than me i'm not posting here to slam or slate anyone thats the last thing i want i just to get that confirmation that my address has been noted..

Regards
John
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Shadeslinger on August 17, 2009, 08:49:35 AM
Mid-month bump! No need to thank me...no, really, I'm just trying to do my small humble part in the communication process. :)

Anyway, I wonder if anybodies heard word on their own order out of the 75-90 ORA orders that are outstanding yet? If you're one, please feel free to share your experience! After all, ORA is part of the mighty Saber Guild where all manner of proven companies reside....of course, I don't remember an actual announcement on it being nominated or anything, but that's probably because I'm a lazy searcher. :-X

Besides, maybe the reason ya'll have heard nothing is because Tyranus is getting together some of those "extra special goodies" to pack in with certain lucky customers. Makes me kinda wish I actually cared about whatever it was I bought from him. It's like Wonkas golden tickets!! :)

 -$5.00
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Darth Raijlin on August 17, 2009, 12:01:18 PM
You don't have a say in who joins the guild.  That is done by the powers that be.  There is no "nomination" period.

Know your role and slow your roll.  You have a right to be upset about one thing, but get your facts straight.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Shadeslinger on August 17, 2009, 12:20:47 PM
Aw shucks, it was just an observation. :) Speaking of which, I read up on this:http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=6402.0 (http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=6402.0)
and found no mention of ORA, even though a caption from the thread says, and I quote, "All companies Listed are in process of being confirmed and such notice will be given upon confirmations." Could be it was overlooked, but hey, what does it matter anyway? I don't want to derail this thread that much.




....but if I was going to, I'd recommend a recindment in the future yes? ;)

Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: JANGO FETT on August 17, 2009, 12:30:13 PM
Shadeslinger ~ Obvious troll is OBVIOUS 1/10

Quote
....but if I was going to, I'd recommend a recindment in the future yes? Wink

The final tale has not been written, and it may not end as you foresee it.

BACK OT peeps. >:(
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Darth_Pceptimus on August 19, 2009, 04:48:53 AM
Why is it i see new posts and think "Cool an update." Only to be disappointed and find its just off topic nonsense there are a lot of people waiting for sabers and parts i think actually getting what is owed is more important than getting constant forum updates notifying us of the same thing over and over. I am confident that things will be sorted at some point no matter how long it takes....


Regards
John
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Reaver on August 19, 2009, 10:43:58 AM
Not everyone is as willing to wait an indefinite period of time for thngs together worked out. And not everyone has faith that it will get worked out, especially if it is just left to languish here without people constantly asking for updates. The communication has been less than confidence inspiring of late. People want the lines of communication open, and if that means they need to try to keep them open themselves, that's what they'll do. I don't see a problem with that. I think we need to be a vocal audience. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, so they say...
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Luke S. on August 19, 2009, 12:18:19 PM
I wish there were info to share Reaver.  I wish Ultra would come on and give you more news.  I wish you had your saber.  I spoke with Yoda a couple of days ago and sadly there is no news to share.

I'm convinced that the second there is news you will be notified here.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Reaver on August 19, 2009, 01:34:36 PM
Don't get me wrong, Luke. I'm not saying there is info that isn't being shared. I was only saying that while there might not be any info, any communication at all is better than the radio blackout we're constantly faced with. It's the silent treatment that really gets to me and several others. It makes us feel ignored. Go long enough without decent communication, and we think we've been forgotten, or purposely left out in the cold. It happens far too often, especially recently.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Shadeslinger on August 19, 2009, 05:19:47 PM
Bah, at this point who needs any more updates from DT? Personally I'd rather not hear the same spew we've been hearing for so long. ::) However, this particular thread deals more with straight ORA deals than Overlords so you can't really blame Ultra here.

But! For those that really need to hear an update, I might be able to give you your fix. :) *DISCLAIMER* The following is not, I repeat, NOT an official update. It should be viewed purely as a reasonable guesstimate and/or paraphrase. After all, I don't want to put words in anybody's mouth. ;)

~ahem~
I realize that things have been taking longer than I'd like, but I assure you I'm doing the best I can to get these out. It's just that lately it seems like..*blah blah blah blah blah*. However, I should be able to ship some stuff when I get the time to...*blah blah blah blah blah*. To those that have got stuck, er, I mean have stuck with me, I appreciate....*blah blah blah blah*. For those certain individuals (you KNOW who you are) *blah blah blah blah* [self edit] *blah blah blah blah* [your stupid worthless toys] *blah blah*. As far as the overlords go, Ultrasabers has been...*blah blah blah blah blah* and I'll update in the appropriate thread. Understand I'm not like Aladins genie with unlimited wishes at my disposal, these will get done whenever I get around to doing them. Period.
...*blah blah*.

Hope that helps!

 -$5.00
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Reaver on August 19, 2009, 06:43:33 PM
Bah, at this point who needs any more updates from DT? Personally I'd rather not hear the same spew we've been hearing for so long. ::) However, this particular thread deals more with straight ORA deals than Overlords so you can't really blame Ultra here.

But! For those that really need to hear an update, I might be able to give you your fix. :) *DISCLAIMER* The following is not, I repeat, NOT an official update. It should be viewed purely as a reasonable guesstimate and/or paraphrase. After all, I don't want to put words in anybody's mouth. ;)

~ahem~
I realize that things have been taking longer than I'd like, but I assure you I'm doing the best I can to get these out. It's just that lately it seems like..*blah blah blah blah blah*. However, I should be able to ship some stuff when I get the time to...*blah blah blah blah blah*. To those that have got stuck, er, I mean have stuck with me, I appreciate....*blah blah blah blah*. For those certain individuals (you KNOW who you are) *blah blah blah blah* [self edit] *blah blah blah blah* [your stupid worthless toys] *blah blah*. As far as the overlords go, Ultrasabers has been...*blah blah blah blah blah* and I'll update in the appropriate thread. Understand I'm not like Aladins genie with unlimited wishes at my disposal, these will get done whenever I get around to doing them. Period.
...*blah blah*.

Hope that helps!

 -$5.00


(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi14.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa313%2FCBR_Reaver%2FSpitTake.gif&hash=c0b7a1206d3087f244ab6f65c0cd80ec)


LOL!
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Darth_Pceptimus on August 22, 2009, 05:00:44 AM
What annoys me is that i got my board and it was DOA so i posted in the ultrasabers section with my problem. An ultrasabers representative responded and told me to post it to him for repair, i was then told it would be best to send it for upgrade as this would fix the problem....


I while later no board no responce to any communication. after a while i got in touch with ultrasabers who told me i had to contact ORA (Like i had not bothered for the past year).

I think ultrasabers has a responsibility in this situation as i sent my board to one of there representatives NOT ORA I'm just a little annoyed that just like the MFX starkiller i'm supposed to accept the loss and lose more money i can't afford....

I am annoyed at the lack of communication and the lack of updates but i would rather get my board than have posts updating us every second of the day. someone please just tell me that my address has been noted and my FIXED US2.1 is on its way.........

Regards
John
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Andy Anonymous on August 22, 2009, 10:01:48 PM
US2.1                                     Date paid                         Last communication                 Estimated delivery
LuxV green                              5/24/07                                  1/22/09                                 None given
UltraEdge blade
Install service
Custom switch


In January 2007 I purchased from Ultra the DIY kit for a LuxIII conversion on the Luke ROTJ saber. However, the kit was designed for the 2005 LED saber, whereas mine was the 2003 EL saber. Ultra offered to have me send the saber to him and perform the install himself, which he did and then he shipped the saber back to me.

However, the saber had problems which Ultra said were due to quirks of the EL sound board, so I shipped the hilt back to him for repair. Around this time the US1.0 had been announced for preorder, so I asked him about an upgrade to the US1.0 (to make moot my saber's board problems) and a green LuxV LED. He had already attempted to fix the EL board and shipped it back to me, but agreed to install the USB1.0 when it arrived, along with the LuxV. I paid for the new board and the LuxV, and shipped the saber (which was still having problems in any case) back to Ultra once again in May 2007.

In October the US1.0s were shipping at last, and Ultra informed me that my converted Luke ROTJ would ship during the second week of the month. I didn't hear anything more until January 2008, when Ultra shipped me back my saber with the LuxIII and an MR board installed. He told me they'd had problems installing the US1.0 in MR hilts and that I could get a refund for the LuxV and US or wait for US2.0 and send the saber back then. I elected the latter.

Time passed while the US2.0 was in development. In September 2008, when the board was finally supposed to be nearing release, I emailed Ultra about my saber. He informed me that Derek would be handling US2.0 installs for him. I emailed Derek and arranged to ship my saber to him in a month's time, when the board was supposed to be ready for install. We also discussed rigging a custom power switch for the Luke ROTJ to make the power on/off process less awkward; I offered to pay extra for this but Derek said there was no need. I shipped it to him in October, along with an UltraFX blade which I had ordered from Ultrasabers some months before which had arrived with damaged film installed, so that it could be exchanged for an undamaged one.

Months went by with no word, and in January 2009 I communicated with Derek again, to request that the replacement blade be an UltraEdge instead of the standard UltraFX. By this time the US2.1 upgrades had been announced, and I agreed to hold off on my saber so that Derek could get my board upgraded; I offered to pay the upgrade fee but Derek said it was on him. This was the last time I heard from Derek. The last emails I sent were in March, to inform him that my shipping address had changed, and in July to wish him well through all his hardships. And that is where things stand today: my Luke ROTJ saber is presumably at Derek's workshop where it has been since last October, and I don't know where "my" US board, which I have never actually had in my possession, is, or even if it has ever truly existed.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Darth Matth on August 24, 2009, 11:00:58 AM
If this delay's where already in the known that time, why did the Overlord install where pointed out to DT?
Is there ever been a saber installed by DT before this all started?
Was he ever capable of making sabers to begin with?
I honestly don't know.

Just before the Overlord install, I had ordered two UltraFX sabers and those where for me the first custom sabers ever, and I trusted him cause it seemed here on the forum that everyone knew him for being capable of doing that.
I don't knew DT for that long also because I was not interrested in costums before.
I was all into the MR saber reviews here.

So again, is there any proove that DT can solder and install sabers?
Did someone ever received a working saber from him?

Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: JANGO FETT on August 24, 2009, 11:51:45 AM
You guys are ridiculous.

Look in the Feedback threads and the TF to see DT's builds
DT's you tube page
http://www.youtube.com/user/DarthMorbius1977 (http://www.youtube.com/user/DarthMorbius1977)

Ultras youtube page
http://www.youtube.com/user/UltraSWG (http://www.youtube.com/user/UltraSWG)

Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: GMLumpy on August 24, 2009, 01:17:24 PM
If this delay's where already in the known that time, why did the Overlord install where pointed out to DT?
Is there ever been a saber installed by DT before this all started?
Was he ever capable of making sabers to begin with?
I honestly don't know.

Just before the Overlord install, I had ordered two UltraFX sabers and those where for me the first custom sabers ever, and I trusted him cause it seemed here on the forum that everyone knew him for being capable of doing that.
I don't knew DT for that long also because I was not interrested in costums before.
I was all into the MR saber reviews here.

So again, is there any proove that DT can solder and install sabers?
Did someone ever received a working saber from him?



I will respond to you here since I have nothing to do with the overlords...
but yes I have electronics that were made by DT himself.  I 1st contacted Ultrasabers about a complete electronics package and they forwarded my message to DT.  he set me up with a Lux III blue with a buck puck and did all the sobering and everything for me.  i installed it into an MHS saber and it works great and looks great.  infact I have been thinking about entering that saber into the newest forums contest. 
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Darth Matth on August 24, 2009, 02:00:40 PM
Okay, that's clear.
It's because members are writing about sabers for more than two years ago, so I wanted to know.
Indeed I forgot he was using the name Darth Morbius before.
Sorry, my mistake.
In that case the illness explains a lot.
Only the fact that he doesn't ship the finished stated sabers.
That is very strange.
I cannot understand that, cause that is the thing most people are angry and suspicious.


You can take that last post away if you please.
Don't want to make things more worse.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Senti Xamas on August 25, 2009, 07:34:59 PM
Unless you have dealings outstanding from DT, Derek, Darth Morbius, Darth Tyranus, or whatever name he used when the order was placed, please do not post off topic comments in this thread. It is an update thread. While it may be a while in between updates (which it will be) we dont need a bunch of random comments to sort through to get the information for parties involved. Thanks.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Darth_Pceptimus on September 05, 2009, 06:52:24 AM
What realy takes the "P" is that i dont have my original board and i get an e-mail telling me the new boards are for sale i have had that much trouble with the one i purchased what makes anyone think i want to deal with US ever again.

It doesn't take much to but a board in a padded envelope and post it to my new address or is that just me....


EDIT: heres my contact info as i have yet to recieve that DT has recieved it or not:

John Griffiths
135 Lunt Road
Bilston
West Midlands
WV14 7BA
United kingdom

Tel: UK 01902 658611
Cell: UK 07877692481


I am annoyed as i stated before i sent my board to an ultrasabers representative not ORA i still think US has a responsibility to fulfill the repair or replacement of my board....
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: DARTH MAUL on September 05, 2009, 08:13:20 AM
They announced in another thread anyone who did not get their board back from the 2.1 upgrade would get a 2.5 sent to them from this batch. I would contact Alex and make sure your on his list.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Darth_Pceptimus on September 05, 2009, 08:22:09 AM
They announced in another thread anyone who did not get their board back from the 2.1 upgrade would get a 2.5 sent to them from this batch. I would contact Alex and make sure your on his list.

Tried with no luck no one wants to exept responsibility for my missing board....
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Ultra on September 05, 2009, 01:44:44 PM
They announced in another thread anyone who did not get their board back from the 2.1 upgrade would get a 2.5 sent to them from this batch. I would contact Alex and make sure your on his list.

Tried with no luck no one wants to except responsibility for my missing board....

Tried with no luck? What the heck does that mean? I have no emails from you about this at all, so how did you try exactly? The only email I received about this was one from Jango notifying me of this thread. Comments like yours are not conducive to a cooperation from anyone. How about you re-tune your attitude and actually email me? And while you're at it, you should think about thanking my Liaison Jango for speaking to me on your behalf. If you don't want my help, please, continue with the nastiness.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Darth_Pceptimus on September 05, 2009, 07:06:20 PM
They announced in another thread anyone who did not get their board back from the 2.1 upgrade would get a 2.5 sent to them from this batch. I would contact Alex and make sure your on his list.

Tried with no luck no one wants to except responsibility for my missing board....

Tried with no luck? What the heck does that mean? I have no emails from you about this at all, so how did you try exactly? The only email I received about this was one from Jango notifying me of this thread. Comments like yours are not conducive to a cooperation from anyone. How about you re-tune your attitude and actually email me? And while you're at it, you should think about thanking my Liaison Jango for speaking to me on your behalf. If you don't want my help, please, continue with the nastiness.

Heres the e-mails sent to your company direct:



I have tried that all i get is pm incoming and then nothing as he was one of
your tech liaisons i thought maybe you could help.
Regards
John

--------------------------------------------------
From: <liam@ultrasabers.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 3:56 PM
To: "John Griffiths" <pceptimus@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ongoing problem with my US2.1

> You can contact Derek here:
> http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?board=116.0
> I am sypathetic to your wait, but only Derek/Darth Tyrannus can help you.
>
> Thanks.
> Liam
>
>
>
>> Hi there i bought my Ultrasound board as part of the pre sale on TCSS
>> when
>> my board showed up it was DOA so i posted on the FX-Sabers Forums and
>> Derek responded and told me to send it to him for repair so i did. He
>> told
>> me he was going to send it for upgrade as this would fix the issue. While
>> it was there i moved house so I e-mailed him to let him know with no
>> response. i have been trying to contact him for a year now with no
>> response to any e-mail or pm and have grown tired of the prospect of
>> losing the board and the money i paid for the board. I don't know who
>> else
>> to contact i have been more than patient and have grown tired of waiting
>> for the board to turn up or even a confirmation on whether it has been
>> posted or not.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.
>>
>> Regards
>> John
>>
>>
>> Current Contact Info:
>>
>> John Griffiths
>> 135 Lunt Road
>> Bilston
>> West Midlands
>> WV14 7BA
>> United Kingdom
>>
>> Tell: UK 01902 658611
>> Mail: pceptimus@hotmail.com
>
>
>
>
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Darth_Pceptimus on September 11, 2009, 05:01:29 AM
All sorted alex is posting me a board. thanks jango for speaking on my behalf i didn't know.

Hopefully it won't be long before i get it in my underlord  ;D
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Shadeslinger on September 23, 2009, 01:37:24 PM
Mid month bump! :)

So, you're reading this as a member and some of you are thinking "Darn it Shade, I thought it was a REAL update. Turns out it's just another goofball throwing out worthless rants! I sure wish people would stop cluttering this thread and save it for the REALLY REAL updates!"

And to that I say, have you even read this threads contents? You're joking right? Ha ha!!1! This thread reminds me of a line from Ghostbusters where Ray is explaining to Venkman that "you don't know what it's like out there....people expect results." :D Ah well. At least the overlord people are getting their stuff. :)

.....oh, oops!


-$5.00
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Senti Xamas on September 23, 2009, 02:05:42 PM
Mid month bump! :)

So, you're reading this as a member and some of you are thinking "Darn it Shade, I thought it was a REAL update. Turns out it's just another goofball throwing out worthless rants! I sure wish people would stop cluttering this thread and save it for the REALLY REAL updates!"

And to that I say, have you even read this threads contents? You're joking right? Ha ha!!1! This thread reminds me of a line from Ghostbusters where Ray is explaining to Venkman that "you don't know what it's like out there....people expect results." :D Ah well. At least the overlord people are getting their stuff. :)

.....oh, oops!


-$5.00

Im glad that the overlords are going out somewhat. However, we need some info on the things that dont pertain to the OLs. Im still awaiting word on anyones stuff getting back. This thread seems to have dried up of hope for returned items. Mine has at least.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Reaver on September 23, 2009, 11:38:05 PM
Keep 'em coming, Shadeslinger! I, for one, appreciate that I'm not alone in thinking that we're getting royally screwed. No one at ORA is going to get this stuff done, and US doesn't seem to care much, either. It's sad, to see these companies we trusted fall apart like this. It's worse that they're just running over their customers and not even looking back.

The X-Files had it right.

Trust No One.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Andy Anonymous on September 24, 2009, 10:52:10 PM
Just because you guys have given up hope on your sabers doesn't mean you have to tick people off and ruin it for those of us who still have orders outstanding. Giving up is your own choice, but don't force the same choice upon the rest of us.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Reaver on September 24, 2009, 11:31:27 PM
We're not forcing anything on anyone, Andy. Just stating opinions, as people with outstanding ORA orders are encouraged to do. Especially since there is no communication coming from anywhere else.

You choose to hope. That's great! We have given up. That is also great. We all deal with it in our own ways!
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Master Jedye on September 25, 2009, 05:35:58 AM
The items I ordered from ORA was shipped to Jango and he shipped them to me.  Granted, these were small items, but they are now in my possession and I got what I paid for (mostly.... still don't have the pommell I bought, but I'll concede the loss to be done with this situation).
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Shadeslinger on September 25, 2009, 06:09:37 AM
Just because you guys have given up hope on your sabers doesn't mean you have to tick people off and ruin it for those of us who still have orders outstanding. Giving up is your own choice, but don't force the same choice upon the rest of us.

Um, who's forcing you to give up? Us or the people that have your items/money? If you're meaning something like the "Ooo! Don't piss the guy off anymore or he'll not give jack to anyone!" line of thought, well again, have you even read this thread?

Anyway, I don't want to hijack these wonderfully informative posts by bickering with fellow members. So, uh, -$.02 :)
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Senti Xamas on October 01, 2009, 11:12:39 PM
Just because you guys have given up hope on your sabers doesn't mean you have to tick people off and ruin it for those of us who still have orders outstanding. Giving up is your own choice, but don't force the same choice upon the rest of us.

My comment was not intended to "tick" you off, and im not forcing anything on anybody. Im just stating a trend i've read that all the hub-bub about the overlords is great, but for those of us who've been overtly shafted (everyone) that dont have overlords, my hope has run its course. You cant blame me, its plain dumb not to even get a blip of info in the last few months. If by some miracle these things do show up, that would be the greatest thing since mozzarella sticks! If you dont want to give up hope that you will get your items, dont!
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Andy Anonymous on October 05, 2009, 03:06:41 PM
I wasn't referring to your comment, Senti. And yes, Shadeslinger, that absolutely is my line of thought. If you've given up on your order, your continued antagonism is pointless.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Shadeslinger on October 06, 2009, 05:59:14 AM
^^As is your faith in getting what's rightfully yours, but good luck to you sir. :) I really do hope things eventually work out and by eventually I mean sometime this century,
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Darth_Pceptimus on October 07, 2009, 05:17:28 PM
I have lost faith i had an e-mail on the 18th of september saying my board was sent i asked for tracking details and got nothing back, i ordered 2 things from ebay from the us last week and recieved them...............

Update:

At last i got my board in the post today ;D


Thanks to those that helped me in this delicate situation i have gained a little bit of faith back i just feel it shouldn't have taken so long to sort out....
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Shadeslinger on October 21, 2009, 12:56:09 PM
Mid-month bump!

*trips over tumble weeds*

So, uh, how's things going ya'll? I figure surely at least one person has gotten a saber from ORA since...what, July? That'd be nice. :)

Of course, sorting out the Overlord situation is probably first and foremost on getting sorted out. A shame that's been getting snagged. Why, just the other day I could have sworn I saw some OL paperwork stuck to the windshield of this Camry on my way out from Best Buy (guess I should have flagged him down). :D Oh well!

 -$5.00
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Senti Xamas on October 21, 2009, 02:09:05 PM
Well shade, im pretty sure not a single person has received squat from ORA. I do wish for it, but you know what they say, Wish in one hand and..... :o

Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Andy Anonymous on October 21, 2009, 02:52:31 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Reaver on October 21, 2009, 09:38:03 PM
Mid-month bump!

*trips over tumble weeds*

So, uh, how's things going ya'll? I figure surely at least one person has gotten a saber from ORA since...what, July? That'd be nice. :)

Of course, sorting out the Overlord situation is probably first and foremost on getting sorted out. A shame that's been getting snagged. Why, just the other day I could have sworn I saw some OL paperwork stuck to the windshield of this Camry on my way out from Best Buy (guess I should have flagged him down). :D Oh well!

 -$5.00

Seriously, 'Slinger, every time you post, I end up laughing for 10 minutes! you take a stagnant situation, and somehow make it hilarious! I for one am glad to have you posting here... Of course, I wouldn't be so thrilled with your rapier wit if I was an ORA employee... lol!
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: QUI-GON JINN on October 22, 2009, 02:46:29 AM
You guys do realize that posts of this nature are probably not helping anything,  right?   ::)
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Shadeslinger on October 22, 2009, 06:07:36 AM
Honestly Qui-gon, no, it's probably not helping anything at all. Then again, keeping silent and being patient really hasn't helped either. I'd rather have some fun with my own misfortune however juvenile it may seem. :D
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: JANGO FETT on October 22, 2009, 07:06:25 AM
Shadeslinger ~ as long as you keep it in the ORA section, it's not a problem.

Carrying it to other threads in different sections is a problem.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Andy Anonymous on October 22, 2009, 08:36:20 AM
Honestly Qui-gon, no, it's probably not helping anything at all. Then again, keeping silent and being patient really hasn't helped either. I'd rather have some fun with my own misfortune however juvenile it may seem. :D

But it isn't just your misfortune. And you've made it clear that you don't give a crap what happens to anyone else's stuff as long as you can continue to amuse yourself.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Shadeslinger on October 22, 2009, 09:05:27 AM
Sir, I absolutely don't give a crap about anyone else's stuff. Why? Because no one paid me to get whatever sabers you people ordered, you paid DT. It's his job to care about your stuff, not mine. Now the argument could be made that people like myself will push DT into not caring about getting this situation solved evah(!), but my point is that it's not gonna get done whatever is said anyway. Hey, I got served the same bunch of lemons as the rest of you. I'm just enjoying lemonade that's all. Care for some? :)

@Jango: You are correct. But since the thread has been deleted anyway, no harm no troll, er, uh, foul right? :D

 
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: JANGO FETT on October 22, 2009, 09:08:57 AM
It's your warning. Take it as you will. There won't be another one.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Andy Anonymous on October 22, 2009, 09:33:37 PM
Sir, I absolutely don't give a crap about anyone else's stuff. Why? Because no one paid me to get whatever sabers you people ordered, you paid DT. It's his job to care about your stuff, not mine. Now the argument could be made that people like myself will push DT into not caring about getting this situation solved evah(!), but my point is that it's not gonna get done whatever is said anyway.

You're not getting money, so you owe us no obligation to not be a wise guy? That's an idiotic statement. By admitting that the argument could be made that you're harming the rest of us, and doing so anyway, you're basically saying, hey, screw us. Of course, people throughout our lives will tell us all to screw ourselves in one way or another, so it makes you no different than the dozens of other characters I regularly meet. But if you're going to be that guy, at least do it for the sake of lines that are better than medium-funny.


Edited for content.  Obi-Wan Kenobi
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: OBI-WAN KENOBI on October 22, 2009, 09:43:15 PM
Guys, let's please remember that we've still got forum rules we have to follow here - no matter how touchy or sensitive the topic is.

AA, post edited for content.

Let's not make an already unfortunate situation even more tense.

No more bickering, please.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Andy Anonymous on October 23, 2009, 08:18:12 AM
My apologies, OWK. I just don't like someone else taking my money into their own hands for the sake of cracking themselves up. It might be pointless, but I have the right to be the judge of that for myself.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Luke S. on October 23, 2009, 08:22:20 AM
To echo Obi Wan, I think we all need to remember what the real problem is here.

ORA has hurt this hobby in a way that no one expected.  Let's try to focus on the real problem.  I read all these posts daily and I feel for all involved.  I can also see how personalities differ and individual responses differ.  For Shade it's easier to laugh it off then fume about it.  Then there are those that like to fume.

Looking at the past six months or so I highly doubt any comment made in this thread or any other ORA thread will make a bit of difference.  The only real thing to come out of ORA has been the partial shipment to Jango.  I believe the only reason that was sent was the fear of legal action.   There are many members out money and parts from member to mod to arbiter.  This will be with us for a very long time.

Let's all try to stop the bickering at each other.  Our hands are tied on this matter.  All we can do is wait and hope.  
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Shadeslinger on October 23, 2009, 09:15:51 AM
If you don't get anything it's on DT's hands not mine. What I say shouldn't have any bearing on anyone else's situation but mine. So please, don't even try to make me out to be the bad guy. That's rofl-licious! This is the last time I'll address that point. What I say is nothing personal against anyone here, even DT believe it or not, so if it comes across as harsh...sorry and that's about the closest to an apology anyone will hear from me in this thread :-X

I'm not here to pick a fight with members, maybe I'll switch to 2 month bumps. I'm sure I'll still have the time to get my moneys worth anyway. ::)
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Andy Anonymous on October 23, 2009, 06:55:40 PM
If you don't get anything it's on DT's hands not mine. What I say shouldn't have any bearing on anyone else's situation but mine.

Oh, I agree that it shouldn't. But that has no bearing on whether or not it does. And since DT has been most absent since the war of words on this forum a month or so ago, it's hard for anyone to say beyond any doubt that it definitely doesn't.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Reaver on October 24, 2009, 12:33:11 PM
Some people get bent out of shape on the silliest of things. Shadeslinger's posts are the only thing funny about this entire maddening, frustrating, convoluted mess. He laughs at the stupidity of the whole thing, which is something I wish, in my frustration, I could do.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Luke S. on October 24, 2009, 12:56:18 PM
Honestly guys, if I was owed by DT I would be another shade myself.  It is my personality to try to make light of my pain.  We're the Chandler Bings of Star Wars.  :D
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Andy Anonymous on October 24, 2009, 08:50:36 PM
Hey, I've had a saber hilt with sentimental value tied up between Ultra and DT for over three years now. Of course I'm upset. And I'm fine with making light of the situation, but there's a difference between that and just chucking barbs at DT and basically daring him to vanish altogether. I don't know, maybe most of you don't have sabers at DT's studio that were given to you by a loved one who's passed away, but for my own part, I want to get my damned hilt back, and I'll do whatever it takes to make that happen even if hope is slim.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on October 24, 2009, 08:52:21 PM
Andy, I am really sorry to hear that.  We all are hoping that you and everyone involved with ORA gets their sabers and projects.  I will keep my fingers crossed extra hard for you :(
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Onli-Won Kanomi on October 24, 2009, 11:25:55 PM
So will I, even more for you getting that hilt than for me getting my parts...I'm really very sorry to hear that has happened to you Andy, this situation must be extra tough on you, may your loved one RIP, and even though I'm 'not paid to care about anyone other than myself getting anything' you won't see me assuming that just because we havent got our items yet we never will nor as you put it daring DT to vanish based on that assumption. Instead I'll keep hoping you and everyone including I get what we are owed...some may assume Hope can't help but I say it can't hurt as much as being a 'wiseacre' taking potshots about things can...just my $0.02, everyone elses mileage may vary...I prefer to take the Light Side but that's just me...anyway I've held my tongue for awhile now but what you said moved me to comment Andy...whatever happens with this I hope that your loved one has left a light in your heart brighter than any lightsaber and that it will always shine for you...MTFBWYA.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Reaver on October 25, 2009, 12:56:39 AM
Understand, folks, that the sarcasm and occasional barbs are not meant to antagonize someone into or out of action. Just the opposite. They are a way of coping. We all do it differently. And we need to let everyone deal with it in their own way. Someone making snarky remarks isn't a belittlement of the dilemma any more than someone doing the opposite - sitting quietly and hoping. It's a way of dealing with a situation that becomes more absurd every day.

And the thing to not forget here is that if someone who was paid (contracted) to do work for you can/would just walk away in a huff because people are upset at the constant delays, fumbles and excuses, then a) they have no business ethics at all, and never did and b) you have given them too much control. You want stuff back? Get it. Call the police, tell them that goods are being held without cause. Send them. Get the law involved. Then look at court. There are many, many options, other than sitting and doing nothing. Seems like recently, the only way to get anything done is to hit people where it really hurts - the wallet. So if there are enough people here waiting, with no news, no updates, and more money than they wish they had spent involved, there's always class action...

Its frustrating to us all. But eventually, there needs to come a time where we stop hoping things will get done, and start making it happen...
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: Senti Xamas on November 14, 2009, 11:43:00 PM
Ah-Ha! An update. Read this thread if you have any dealing with DT on an order that does not pretain to Overlord's.   http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=21294.msg317282#msg317282
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: darthmorbius on November 16, 2009, 11:47:27 AM
Thanks Senti Xamas!  8)

I hadn't gotten around to posting that link here yet.

Mods, Could we please move this topic to pit after I get done updating?  Or at least lock it. 

There is a bit of negativity here that is detrimental to the cause of fixing this issue. Plus it is a bit redundant since I have a list format on the other topic that will be much easier to manage than trimming this down by splitting.

Thanks....
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: darth_call on November 16, 2009, 11:50:08 AM

Mods, Could we please move this topic to pit after I get done updating?  Or at least lock it. 


yep, we can lock it once u finish the updates, just let us know when you're done/ready.
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: darthmorbius on November 16, 2009, 12:06:44 PM
Thanks Chewbacca! I'll let you know as soon as I get all the info transferred over... Gotta run and sell some cable TV packages or something, the boss just gave me the "look" :D
Title: Re: Outstanding transactions for Outer Rim Armory excluding Overlords
Post by: darthmorbius on November 16, 2009, 07:35:28 PM
Okay, This topic is officially obsolete.

I have weeded through a lot of the bantering and bickering here to get the needed info.

Please lock and de-sticky.

All future communication will be located here: http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=21294