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Title: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Acerocket on February 21, 2014, 12:29:42 PM
'Killer Penny'  Mention that name in these parts and people know exactly what you are talking about.

Back in 2007, I completed the original Killer Penny and delivered it personally to Corbin Das to show off at Celebration IV in Los Angeles.  This saber was unique from the moment it appeared in the community.  All brass and copper material, CNC machined entirely on a mill – no lathe involved.  It was one of the earliest sabers to use the Luxeon V LED, and was powered by Li-ion batteries driving a Corbin Das PWM board.  If there is a 'grandaddy' of sabers, the Killer Penny might just be that saber.

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2F100_0488_zps0f9ead6a.jpg&hash=ff73559f9cba6508bf02f237c0e3073e13eb7630) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/100_0488_zps0f9ead6a.jpg.html)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2F100_0486_zps239ee4cf.jpg&hash=2563b051e4dec66ff81452442537eb041f032a07) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/100_0486_zps239ee4cf.jpg.html)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2F100_0485_zps37a41006.jpg&hash=6fe57ef66acec6e7cc981a0e68c56e8f801060ac) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/100_0485_zps37a41006.jpg.html)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2F100_0484_zps4d397350.jpg&hash=82b4a436418770fddaa014b9a0f6174adf761ffc) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/100_0484_zps4d397350.jpg.html)


I have been asked repeatedly over the years to duplicate this saber – but out of respect for Corbin, I have always refused.   Recently, Corbin decided to give the Killer Penny an upgrade with considerable changes both internally and externally.  After some PM's I received, it got me thinking and I approached Corbin with a proposal.  Since the original Killer Penny has now been changed, would he be willing to let me offer a very limited run of 'Legacy' sabers that were based on the original Killer Penny design.  After a slew of emails and a phone call, we reached an agreement.

I am proud to announce a very limited 13 saber run of LEGACY.

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FLegacy1_zps579a71e6.jpg&hash=ab8e8d5c49d88ac0ac7a7a5a59f4a4b105862dd1) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/Legacy1_zps579a71e6.jpg.html)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FLegacy2_zps559133db.jpg&hash=f69dfa15a90ed6b54242618656e76713d5698982) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/Legacy2_zps559133db.jpg.html)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FLegacy3_zps364cf4c0.jpg&hash=2ad345e13db659d2968d29a094c68d8540f9eea1) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/Legacy3_zps364cf4c0.jpg.html)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FLegacy4_zps787bac33.jpg&hash=e737c082cd1099a22b5e6ea23cc0a12236bb2ae3) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/Legacy4_zps787bac33.jpg.html)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FLegacy5_zpsd2b15a61.jpg&hash=5599851b7db69d184da5911463df514d9f29e6bc) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/Legacy5_zpsd2b15a61.jpg.html)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FLegacy6_zps833256ec.jpg&hash=db426dc972aba70970a97bf3d0b66be415990fed) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/Legacy6_zps833256ec.jpg.html)


These will be copper and brass construction like the original Killer Penny but will have some minor differences.  First, I cannot get the antique fluted brass tube and endcap, so I will machine replicas as close as I can.  Second, in as much as the subsequent K3GR1 run was based on the original Killer Penny models I made, this LEGACY run is a essentially a unique version of the K3GR1 that is dressed out to resemble the original Killer Penny.  As per Corbin's wishes, some of the design features of the original Killer Penny will not be incorporated into this version.  Namely, the Covertech knob is no longer a switch and the weight reduction cutouts have been eliminated.  I have made some of my own updates to allow modern tech to be used.  Overall, the external looks will be nearly identical.

All sabers will be offered as empty only.  I am not offering installs, nor will I be arranging installs through my 'usual' contacts.  Installs will be entirely up to you.  You can use any soundboard, battery solution, speaker, etc. you want.  There are some limitations on switches and LED – this is due to how the saber is designed.  The saber is designed to use the Tri-Rebel type LED with 10507 optic.  You can use a different optic package, but you will need to figure out how to fit it in the saber.  I will supply switches with each saber, it's up to you if you want to use them or not.

Price for one empty saber is $1425.00 (plus paypal fees).  A non-refundable deposit of $600.00 will need to be made to secure material (because, if you haven't noticed, copper and brass are not cheap these days).  When the sabers are finished, I will require final payment plus shipping costs be made.

The original Killer Penny lacked sound, and as such – sound holes.  Tech has also come a long way since then.  To this end, I am offering a few options you can get with the saber.

First - sound holes.  I will add sound holes to the pommel end cap for those who want them.  This is the only place I will offer them, and the pictured pattern is the only way I will offer them.  Take this option or you will need to make you own sound holes.

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FLegacysoundoption_zps88cd44cc.jpg&hash=ca6b0f002ab273f5f3f4f259c6f5f448c06f0388) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/Legacysoundoption_zps88cd44cc.jpg.html)

Second – PLI switch.  The original Killer Penny had a switch mounted in the PLI box to turn on the battery level PLI.  If you want to use the switch here, I will cut the slot, supply the switch and machine the delrin spacer to accept the switch.  Otherwise, this area will be left solid.  The grip will be machined under the box for the switch and PLI slot – this is not an option to change.

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FLegacy7_zps5785a01c.jpg&hash=6f46c28c7dddcefcc49df14c9c7fc598d94410fd) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/Legacy7_zps5785a01c.jpg.html)

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Third – RICE port.  As I mentioned before, the original Killer Penny had the on-off switch in the Covertech knob.  On LEGACY, the standard Covertech will be a static knob to replicate the original looks.  However, I will include parts to add a RICE port inside the Covertech if you want this option.

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FLegacyRICEportoption_zps08ed456a.jpg&hash=974d47d2311d9672ef4a01d7a179daa938a5196f) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/LegacyRICEportoption_zps08ed456a.jpg.html)

Fourth – Two switches.  I will supply parts so you can add one or two switches to the forward switch box.

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FLegacy2switchoption_zps06d4c599.jpg&hash=6c0a4f97f1a86ab7b849910edc0c6ab4cca8470f) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/Legacy2switchoption_zps06d4c599.jpg.html)

Fifth – Covertech location.  Corbin is left handed and asked that the covertech be located at the ‘9 o’clock’ position to suit his needs.  I can place it in it’s designed location, 180 degrees opposite, or 90 degrees opposite in either direction (either in line with the boxes or opposite of them). 

Sixth – PLI box.  I will either cut the slot per the original design in the box for the PLI/bargraph or I will leave it solid.  I will not cut any custom sized or shape slot.  You may want to have your RICE in the box and make a half-round bargraph, or just have a solid box.  The choice will be up to you.  In either case, I will not cut out a slot in the delrin spacer below the brass box top.  This will allow you greater flexibility in setting up whatever you choose to do in the box.

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FLegacysolidPLIbox_zps4ae8a223.jpg&hash=3d46742013553de82bfc6c23b95480b09c7cd6d8) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/LegacysolidPLIbox_zps4ae8a223.jpg.html)

These are the only options I am offering.  I will need to know your choices on some of the options but for the other options, they are just extra parts included so you can do what you want.  There are no extra charges for these options.  There are no other options available, nor will I be offering any 'custom' work on these sabers.

All sabers will come 'machine finish'.  I am not offering polishing or weathering – that is up to you.

As I mentioned before, this will be a 13 saber run.  There are a few spots that were offered to select individuals first.  The remaining 8 slots will be divided evenly between FX-SABERs Forum members and Imperial Royal Arms Forum members (in a thread to be posted on that forum). 

As if this saber was legendary enough already, Corbin and I will be offering special perks, goodies, and maybe a contest or two over the course of the run.  Just to keep things fun.

Now, because there are only 4 spots available here on the FX-SABERs Forum, I will be do something a little different to try and bring some fairness about allotting the spots.  If you want a spot, post here in this thread that you are interested.  I will leave this thread open for 48 hours and then close it.  I will do some sort of lottery to pick names randomly.  If you are picked, you will have 24 hours to pay your deposit.  If you do not pay, I will proceed to the next person and so on until all 4 spots are filled. 

The list will be 'soft' closed at midnight on Sunday February 23, 2014.  If there are more than 4 people who have expressed interest, then we will go ahead with the lottery to pick names and fill the spots.  If we do not reach 4 slots, the list will stay open a while longer until 4 spots are filled.  Do not send payment unless I contact you and ask for your down payment please.



1.  WAT TAMBOR - I got this covered
2.  Corbin Das - paid
3.  GENERAL GREIVOUS - paid
4.  JANGO FETT - paid
5.  LUMINARA UNDULI - paid
6.  Darth Smorgis - paid in full (less fees and shipping)
7.  Pfockerchief - paid
8.  Sanjuro - paid
9.  Aginor - paid
10.  Juansith - paid
11.  basalter - paid
12.  ANAKIN SKYWALKER
13.  OBI-WAN KENOBI - paid
 
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on February 21, 2014, 12:58:11 PM
"I WANT IN, SIGN ME UP"
I have waited for this day for a long time.

If I am lucky enough to make the cut, this saber will most likely find its way to MH for electronics.

To everyone else...
~you don't want this saber~
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on February 21, 2014, 01:45:05 PM
Now this is what I call EPIC
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Pfockerchief on February 21, 2014, 01:51:07 PM
Holy mother of all EPICness!!!

I,M IN!!!!
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Sanjuro on February 21, 2014, 02:16:46 PM
In please.

Respectfully,
Sanjuto
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on February 21, 2014, 02:19:17 PM
I have butterflies in my stomach just thinking about making the list.
I say the first person from each forum to express interest is automatically in  ;D

Question...
If more than 4 people want on the list then it is obvious that some will not make it.  At that time will we be allowed to get on the list over at IRA as well, to increase our chances in the lottery?
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darkjedi on February 21, 2014, 02:19:39 PM
 :o  :o :'( :'( :(


Dang I didn't win the powerball!
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Acerocket on February 21, 2014, 03:14:38 PM
...
Question...
If more than 4 people want on the list then it is obvious that some will not make it.  At that time will we be allowed to get on the list over at IRA as well, to increase our chances in the lottery?

I don't know - let me check with Corbin and see what his thoughts are.

I asked Corbin and neither of us really care if you 'express interest' on both forums.  Corbin and I will decide what happens when the 'soft close' happens and we start setting the order for contacting people.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Corbin_Das on February 21, 2014, 07:17:54 PM
Hi guys and gals

 I look forward to seeing this run progress and people getting their very own Penny. I never thought this saber was going to be so admired by the saber community as it is. Honestly, back in 2006, I was just trying to design the best saber I could for me.  :)) It's cool though that it somehow struck a chord with a lot of folks. Not sure how that happened, but I'm glad it did.

 This is a question I might best pose towards those getting a saber, but I'd be interested in hearing opinions from everyone.....


 What type of other goodies would you like to see available for purchasers of the saber? A custom saber stand? A plaque (possibly signed by Erik and me)? An exclusive blade plug maybe? A special sound font? I'm open to ideas.


Corbin
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on February 21, 2014, 07:33:58 PM
What type of other goodies would you like to see available for purchasers of the saber? A custom saber stand? A plaque (possibly signed by Erik and me)? An exclusive blade plug maybe? A special sound font? I'm open to ideas.


Corbin

All of that sounds good.  But for me personally, it will be enough just to own this saber.  I also don't know if I will be able to add much more cost on top of what it will already be costing me for the hilt.
Minumum, I would have to say an awesome blade plug would be in order.  But that is just me.

I am just honored at the chance to own this saber for myself.
I am counting down the hours.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Pfockerchief on February 21, 2014, 07:58:18 PM
Corbin I'm thinking that a saber of this quality deserves a stand of similar regard.  Perhaps tron can help work some of his magic with a copper/nickel matching stand or some other exotic material that he seems to get his hands on.

Couple other ideas could be...

An exploded view graphic revealing the different parts of the saber and perhaps a bit of interpretation on what the inside would hold? 

A display box of some sort that matches?  Think metal not wood.

Custom kill key for future upgrades?
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: GENERAL GRIEVOUS on February 21, 2014, 10:01:56 PM
Epic indeed.   ^-^
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Caine on February 21, 2014, 10:08:31 PM
For some of you newer folks...do your research on this, and learn what you can about this saber...and get in on the run!! This is EPIC!!!
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Dark Navel on February 21, 2014, 10:34:19 PM
The Killer Penny is one of the best known if not the best known sabers out there.  This was/is one of the most famous, coveted lightsabers ever produced and was EPIC when it was released.  If you don't know about this work of art let's just say it is the Holy Grail of lightsabers folks.

If you are one of the lucky few to actually get one of these it will truly be a blessing.  This is the crème of the crop, top dog, hands down one of the best lightsabers ever produced.

Epic, Epic you say?  Yeah, this one? This one is EPIC.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Corbin_Das on February 22, 2014, 12:25:57 AM
Corbin I'm thinking that a saber of this quality deserves a stand of similar regard.  Perhaps tron can help work some of his magic with a copper/nickel matching stand or some other exotic material that he seems to get his hands on.

Couple other ideas could be...

An exploded view graphic revealing the different parts of the saber and perhaps a bit of interpretation on what the inside would hold? 

A display box of some sort that matches?  Think metal not wood.

Custom kill key for future upgrades?




 Cool ideas. I'm not sure how many folks would want to pay the cost of a saber stand made from some of those exotic alloys, but having seen the material in person, it WOULD BE EPIC. Tron made me a brass and copper stand a few months back. This doesn't really show it well, but you get the idea. I love it.

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv345%2Fcorbin_das%2FKiller%2520Penny%2Fstand.jpg&hash=a0d39b4d6e4bac855cbeb72d719413df4d74dc21)


 I really like the exploded view graphic idea. If the internals were shown, should it be more realistic or more what one would expect to see if it were from the Star Wars Universe? Either would be cool though.

 I have two versions of a base hum sound I was intending to have made into a custom font for the original Penny. I'd be willing to have someone (or a few someones) play with it to develop a Killer Penny sound font, if anyone is interested. Maybe a dark side and a light side version?
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Aginor on February 22, 2014, 04:18:13 AM
I'm definitely in!

Hopefully! :))
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on February 22, 2014, 05:40:45 AM
"I WANT IN, SIGN ME UP"

I,M IN!!!!

In please.

I'm definitely in!

Well that is Four from this forum already.
There has not been any interest expressed over on the IRA Forum as of yet.  Just FYI.
At least Four hilts still remain over there.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Pfockerchief on February 22, 2014, 06:13:06 AM
Quote
Cool ideas. I'm not sure how many folks would want to pay the cost of a saber stand made from some of those exotic alloys, but having seen the material in person, it WOULD BE EPIC. Tron made me a brass and copper stand a few months back. This doesn't really show it well, but you get the idea. I love it.

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv345%2Fcorbin_das%2FKiller%2520Penny%2Fstand.jpg&hash=a0d39b4d6e4bac855cbeb72d719413df4d74dc21)


 I really like the exploded view graphic idea. If the internals were shown, should it be more realistic or more what one would expect to see if it were from the Star Wars Universe? Either would be cool though.

I remember the v1 stand and thought how perfect it fit.  Although it may be an additional expense it could be an option.

On the exploded view perhaps staying true to the construction would be best as each person would have a different perspective of the SW internals.  How about a somewhat larger plaque that has the name of the saber, the number, creators, and an exploded ISO view or schematic that is all etched into the plaques.  If it could be done in a brass or gold plated plaque it would be awesome.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Juansith on February 22, 2014, 07:11:50 AM
IN
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Corbin_Das on February 22, 2014, 05:33:06 PM

I remember the v1 stand and thought how perfect it fit.  Although it may be an additional expense it could be an option.

On the exploded view perhaps staying true to the construction would be best as each person would have a different perspective of the SW internals.  How about a somewhat larger plaque that has the name of the saber, the number, creators, and an exploded ISO view or schematic that is all etched into the plaques.  If it could be done in a brass or gold plated plaque it would be awesome.

 I think if someone wants a stand from tron, they'll have to contact him separately. We cannot offer them as an "upgrade" with the saber here on this forum.

 The plaque sounds cool, though I'm not sure how large it'd have to be in order to have a decent exploded view on it.  I kinda envisioned something akin to a shadowbox, with a print of the exploded view, some type of arms to hold the saber itself and a brass plaque with info on it. That might get too expensive though.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Sanjuro on February 23, 2014, 10:02:14 PM
Just wanted to follow up on the status of who got in on the run...  If possible, if no one is interested in the run at IRA, could more spots be allocated here?

Respectfully,
Sanjuro
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: jedicri on February 23, 2014, 10:14:17 PM
To increase or improve their chances, Aginor, Darth Smorgis (DS) and Pfockerchief have chimed in on IRA too and according to DS, this has been ok'd with Wat.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Sanjuro on February 23, 2014, 10:19:22 PM
To increase or improve their chances, Aginor, Darth Smorgis (DS) and Pfockerchief have chimed in on IRA too and according to DS, this has been ok'd with Wat.

Thank you - I'll only enter once.

Respectfully,
Sanjuro
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on February 24, 2014, 05:23:27 AM
Just wanted to follow up on the status of who got in on the run...  If possible, if no one is interested in the run at IRA, could more spots be allocated here?

Respectfully,
Sanjuro

I am dying to know as well. 
Hopefully since it did not reach a total of 8 people within the 48+ hours that the 5 who have expressed interest will be allowed in.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on February 24, 2014, 05:37:52 AM
My apologies if this thread is now officially closed, and I understand four members here have expressed interest already, but I would like to ask for consideration if either the IRA forum is not filled? or
(heaven forbid) an issue occurs that leaves a space here. Typical to not visit a few days and THIS happen! Anyway, I await any decision at your discretion.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Acerocket on February 24, 2014, 08:29:54 AM
My apologies if this thread is now officially closed, and I understand four members here have expressed interest already, but I would like to ask for consideration if either the IRA forum is not filled? or
(heaven forbid) an issue occurs that leaves a space here. Typical to not visit a few days and THIS happen! Anyway, I await any decision at your discretion.

I will be making an announcement about the run participants later today.  I 'soft' closed the list at midnight last night just to have a convenient time.  I will be getting in touch with Corbin and will post later once we decide how to proceed.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Acerocket on February 24, 2014, 01:15:08 PM
There is one open spot left - first come, first served.  I will keep an eye on the Imperial Royal Arms thread and this thread.  First person to post on either forum will get the last spot.

I have sent PMs to everyone with down payment information.  Once the deposits are in, I will order the material and we will let the EPICNESS flow.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on February 24, 2014, 01:21:43 PM
Deposit Sent!  I can't believe this is happening  8)
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Acerocket on February 24, 2014, 01:30:44 PM
Deposit Sent!  I can't believe this is happening  8)

Somebody's excited I think.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Corbin_Das on February 24, 2014, 01:56:48 PM
Deposit Sent!  I can't believe this is happening  8)

 Do you feel it? A tremor in the Force! As if several people were holding their breath, waiting to see if they made the list, then were suddenly overcome with joy.  :))
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: ANAKIN SKYWALKER on February 24, 2014, 01:59:06 PM
yep, you pretty much nailed it.

Never thought I'd be on a run like this, nor did I think this run would ever happen.  Sooooo excited!  now time to forget about it until the box with the saber arrives. 


Oh, and about the other "goodies", I think a blade plug would be great as well as a plaque and either something like a shadow box or some other kind of display.  Personally, I'm very fond of the MR LE style cases, but I don't think that fits this saber very well.  It has to have something more steampunkish.  The shadow box like yoda does would really fit great with some kind of a dark stain but the alternative would have to be a carrying case that doubles as a display when you open it.  That's not to say a samsonite case with a sanjuro full custom stand in it (like the drink cooler in the weapons demo in iron man), but the padding for the saber would have to be nice enough that it looked like it was built specifically for being displayed that way.  I've also never seen a sanjuro stand that I've been disappointed by, so that would be another great option. 

Any kind of exploded view would be cool, but if it's going to be a huge wallhanger (bigger than say 5x8), then the display for the saber should also be "wall mount ready" as there isn't always a good way to put a saber on a table or in a display cabinet with a picture directly above/behind it.  Some people would be fine doing that while others would want to put both on the wall. 

Just my .02.  I also have to remember that this doesn't need to be overly generalized because it's only a 13 saber run, so we may all actually be able to agree on one thing or another. 
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Cad-Bayne on February 24, 2014, 02:46:40 PM
I want in.... One slot left... Please God... I want in.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Scorpion on February 24, 2014, 02:57:34 PM
congrats to everyone who wanted in im sure it will be an awesome saber once finished
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Satori Hanzo on February 24, 2014, 03:45:32 PM
Wow!!! Congratulations to everyone that got in on this. Absolutely a beautiful piece of functional art.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Acerocket on February 24, 2014, 05:22:07 PM
All the spots are now filled.  Assuming everyone pays their down payments.

Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on February 24, 2014, 06:08:49 PM
PM sent .
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Fat Ewok on February 24, 2014, 08:27:11 PM
I feel awful asking this. :< I see that price tag of $1400 for the empty, and it really has me curious as to what exactly gives it that hefty price tag. :P I know from browsing around here that this thing is nothing short of legendary, and people are clearly psyched about it, but I'm just curious as to what parts of the empty makes it so special. Is it a ton of pieces to assemble? It definitely looks similar to those K3GR-1 sabers that I have seen floating around, but I'm guessing that this thing brings complexity to a whole different level? :O Someone help poor me understand, without biting my head off! I'd love to know a bit more about this saber!
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: jedicri on February 24, 2014, 08:33:54 PM
I feel awful asking this. :< I see that price tag of $1400 for the empty, and it really has me curious as to what exactly gives it that hefty price tag. :P I know from browsing around here that this thing is nothing short of legendary, and people are clearly psyched about it, but I'm just curious as to what parts of the empty makes it so special. Is it a ton of pieces to assemble? It definitely looks similar to those K3GR-1 sabers that I have seen floating around, but I'm guessing that this thing brings complexity to a whole different level? :O Someone help poor me understand, without biting my head off! I'd love to know a bit more about this saber!

I know for a fact that copper is expensive.  My bro-in-law, who does renos among other stuff, always sells the copper pipes he gets when he does a complete bathroom reno and always gets a good price for it.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Gil Gamesh on February 24, 2014, 08:40:23 PM
indeed, for those that do not build sabers, the cost of raw-materials is quite high for certain types (and this is pricey due to the large diameter material being needed).  This is basically all copper and brass, which is more expensive than aluminum.  Add in the time for design, time for labor, shop fees/costs to produce said saber, and you'll get an idea of some of the cost.  Honestly, for a run of this saber, the price tag is a little less than what I always envisioned, so this is by far a deal!

Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: JANGO FETT on February 24, 2014, 08:55:14 PM
It definitely looks similar to those K3GR-1 sabers that I have seen floating around, but I'm guessing that this thing brings complexity to a whole different level? :O
History.
First came the Killer Penny(KP). It was a Corbin and OM collaboration.
K3GR1 was an interpretation of the KP. All aluminum
Legacy is an update design of the original KP, in copper and brass.

As to your cost question. Copper and brass are a much more costly material and machining it is more difficult than aluminum.


Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: GENERAL GRIEVOUS on February 24, 2014, 10:36:49 PM
Another very large factor (related to materials cost) is that certain minimums and specific sizes must be purchased for more specialized metals like these.  JANGO already mentioned this, but machining is much more difficult as well.  After all, there are reasons that we almost always use aluminum on sabers and that an extra MKVI copper neck is $70 for one little piece  ;)
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Aginor on February 24, 2014, 10:56:19 PM
Deposit sent! :)

As for the extras I think a custom blade plug for this would be awesome. With the stand I'm pretty easy, I just don't want a base that will take up too much space and for it to have a plaque.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Fat Ewok on February 24, 2014, 11:18:05 PM
Oooh. I see. Thanks for the answers everyone, and I'm looking forward to seeing how this run plays out! :)
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Corbin_Das on February 25, 2014, 12:19:40 AM
 Copper is indeed expensive.

 Hi end copper alloy is even moreso. I can't recall 100%, but I want to say the Penny is made from Naval Brass and Tellurium Copper. Tellurium makes it heavier and harder, and almost doubles the price from standard copper.


 
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on February 25, 2014, 12:43:29 AM
Copper is indeed expensive.

 Hi end copper alloy is even moreso. I can't recall 100%, but I want to say the Penny is made from Naval Brass and Tellurium Copper. Tellurium makes it heavier and harder, and almost doubles the price from standard copper.

Does this mean the Legacy might use similar materials, rather than 'normal' brass and copper?
 I think the cost is extremely reasonable, considering the sort of expense involved trying to design and build anything similar from scratch! AND everything has been road tested, no discoveries that the design has major flaws, or is aesthetically unpleasant. Finally, it already has its own iconography, and is among the three sabers that got me into this hobby.
Deposit Paid BTW.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: shiro on February 25, 2014, 04:23:04 AM
I started my saber collection back in MR era. However, sold most of them over time, as they are all sitting in the warehouse and never see daylight. Years past and I stumbled into this website and my passion for sabers kinda come back. I drool on Yoda's crystal saber and decided to make one for myself whenever I can grab one of those kit....

The Penny Killer run came up. I have not seen this saber before (sorry for my ignorance) and I have to say its one of the best looking saber I have seen, the use of copper and bronze just have a very different but strinking effect. And the more you look at it, the more you are drawn to it. For several time, I almost push the button and jump on the band wagon, but I know once I start, there will be so many more sabers that I want and the list will go on and on...

...Well, what I want to say is. Nice design, nice smith, and congrat to those who is on the list. :)
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on February 25, 2014, 06:33:23 AM
To weigh in also on cost, it is a combination of what folks have said already.  First the materials costs are going to be high.  This is (unfortunately) unavoidable.  Copper is very high now to begin with and brass is not cheap either.  Next you have the historical significance of the piece.  At the time, it was revolutionary.  It inspired many of us to "up our game" so in that way it moved the rest of the industry forward and helped set the stage for some of the exceptional works you see today and would still stand proudly next to anything out there.  Then take in to account the complexity of the design with all the different pieces that go into this particular design.  All that machining with those materials are hard on the machines, much harder than aluminum (literally).  Bits will be broken (look up what replacement CNC bits cost), lots of cursing will happen (not trying to jinx you Wat).  Then, there are few hilts out there in the entire world made of these materials.  So there is the rarity. 

@Sanjuro, myself I'd like to see something in that mirrored gold.  If you also had access to a mirrored copper maybe that could be incorporated as well?
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Cad-Bayne on February 25, 2014, 06:45:58 AM
Sorry all, I had to remove myself from the Run :(

I have PM'd Watt and so the 13th Slot should be available for that lucky person who has been wanting that not so common chance at this spot. 
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Acerocket on February 25, 2014, 07:13:41 AM
There is already a waiting list formed (a few PMs have already been received).  If you wish to be on the waiting list, post or PM and I will add you - but I am not making any promises - I am fairly sure one on the list will take that 13th spot - I will update the list once I hear back from the waiting list memebrs.

Now, as to price and material questions.  There are 4 materials used in this saber.  C145 copper, also know as Tellurium copper and is classified as an easy to machine copper.  It is easier to machine than C110 copper but still a little harder than machining aluminum.  There is also C360 Brass, also known as ultra-machinable brass. C260 brass, known as formable brass, and some Delrin.

To give and idea of cost differences.  I am using prices form mcmaster.com since they are easy for everyone to find themselves if they choose.
Assuming a typical 12" long bar of 2" diameter material:
C145 copper = $221.37
C110 copper = $153.74
C360 brass = $126.54
6061 aluminum = $23.39

As you can see, the C145 copper is 10X the price of aluminum and brass is about 5X that of aluminum.

As some have mentioned, there are other factors involved in the price.  Copper is a lot heavier than aluminum, so shipping costs will be higher.  Copper is a bit harder to machine.  Because I have to sort scrap from the machine (I can't mix aluminum chips with copper chips or brass chips, etc), I have to clean the conveyor and machine after each material change - this takes time.  There is also the 'rarity' of the run offering.  Only 13 sabers means they are going to be worth more each than if I made 200 of them.  There are design cost associated with the run.  And they are other factors I won't get into.  But suffice it to say, the single biggest reason for the price is the cost of the raw materials.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on February 25, 2014, 07:25:46 AM
now time to forget about it until the box with the saber arrives.

You do realize that is going to be impossible right Alex?
I dare you to try  :))
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: ANAKIN SKYWALKER on February 25, 2014, 07:28:29 AM
now time to forget about it until the box with the saber arrives.

You do realize that is going to be impossible right Alex?
I dare you to try  :))

Yeah, I know.  Especially this one.  I mean, I do have plenty of other OM hilts to occupy myself until the run is over.  I can dream though right? 

Btw, WAT, I know the original killer penny was made entirely on a mill, but will this run be made entirely on the mill or will it be a mill/lathe combo run like most of the others?
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Acerocket on February 25, 2014, 08:28:04 AM
Btw, WAT, I know the original killer penny was made entirely on a mill, but will this run be made entirely on the mill or will it be a mill/lathe combo run like most of the others?

No way!  I have a lathe and I am not afraid to use it.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on February 25, 2014, 08:29:34 AM
Hahahaha! :))
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: ANAKIN SKYWALKER on February 25, 2014, 08:33:06 AM
Lol, cool.  I was hoping you weren't going to make it harder on yourself just to stay true to the original
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: EXAR KUN on February 25, 2014, 10:04:00 AM
Hey, this is just a small note to those involved in the run, in regards to the stand Sanjuro will make.

If I might make a suggestion to at least consider....

Being a designer, I thought of something you may not have considered.

I read some saying that they wish the stand to be copper, gold-colored, or bronze-colored.
Might I suggest to at least consider the option of using a complimentary color to the gold or copper.

You see, the gold or copper colored stand will be awesome for sure, but it will all appear very similar in coloring and you may not get the 'pop' of the saber shape (which is very unique, obviously).

However, if you choose opposite colors to the colors of the saber; the saber itself will 'pop' out and the lines of it will be complimented.

On the color wheel, the colors opposite to yellow and orange shades are blues and violets.
Also, by looking at some of the great photography some have displayed in regards to completed custom saber photos, I really like reflective black/mirror on a table or stand which gives a very clear and vivid reflection of the saber that sits atop.

I'm not a part of the run, and this is just one idea to consider.
Congrats to everyone involved I can't wait to see the progress of not only the saber itself, but the peripheral items as well.

 :)
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Scorpion on February 25, 2014, 10:16:09 AM
i agree space, a contrasting color does indeed make the saber stand out even more, a simple clear mirrored finish would make it "pop"
and a gold mirrored name plate would look awesome
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: ANAKIN SKYWALKER on February 25, 2014, 11:32:12 AM
I think the furthest we'd want to contrast would be silver mirrored, as blue would be tough to look just right.  you can't go wrong with the contrast of black, or a dark stained wood  for a base layer. 

Others have mentioned that the saber itself needs to be the eye catcher, but in reality, it always is.  I really liked what was done with the halo saber stand with the floating rings, but, I definitely don't want anything covering the front of the saber.  The saber itself is very symmetrical, so it isn't necessary to have a mirrored surface on the rear side of the stand to show any details that you won't already see.  It wouldn't be bad to have a reflective surface on the rear side of the saber, but it just isn't as necessary as a reflective surface on the top of the base for this particular saber. 

@WAT, another few questions.  If the charge port goes in the pommel, the pli goes in the control box, and a rice port goes in the covertec, how is this saber going to open up?  I'm already thinking of recessing the pli so the grip moves freely (which would require that the rice port was moved unless the grip separates at the "pipe" section), but something has to be able to open somewhere for sd card access. 

Whether or not we get the rice port in the covertec, will we still have the greeblie that sits in the middle of the covertec knob?  It would have to be a plug for the rice port if that option was used I guess. 

Will the holes be pre drilled for the switches based on the option that we choose?  I see that you said you will be including parts to add switches to the control box, but does that mean we will have to drill our own holes there?




Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on February 25, 2014, 11:48:17 AM
   
Whether or not we get the rice port in the covertec, will we still have the greeblie that sits in the middle of the covertec knob?  It would have to be a plug for the rice port if that option was used I guess. 

I don't believe you need to make a decision on the covertec.  The way I'm reading it, we receive both options and you choose which one you want to istall.  Although having the rice port installed there with the greeblie being a plug to make the rice port disappear while on display is a great idea.  I wonder if that will be possible.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: ANAKIN SKYWALKER on February 25, 2014, 04:40:36 PM
   
Whether or not we get the rice port in the covertec, will we still have the greeblie that sits in the middle of the covertec knob?  It would have to be a plug for the rice port if that option was used I guess. 

I don't believe you need to make a decision on the covertec.  The way I'm reading it, we receive both options and you choose which one you want to istall.  Although having the rice port installed there with the greeblie being a plug to make the rice port disappear while on display is a great idea.  I wonder if that will be possible.


yeah, but reading it that way, it seems like we'd have a lot of extra parts depending on how we setup the saber.  Just trying to clear up the options a little, though I'm sure we'll have some time before we have to decide. 


I went ahead and moved the posts that only pertained to the stand for this to sanjuro's section.  Sanjuro and I touched base about it and it seemed like it would be much easier for him to have all of the posts pertaining to the stand in one spot, while all of the chatter continues here about the run itself.  If your posts had other things in them besides the stand, I did not move them.  Please re-post your ideas/requests in the thread located in sanjuro's section and linked below.  Updates about the stand will be posted in both threads, but again, this way sanjuro won't have to sort through dozens of posts to find tidbits related to the stands. 



Legacy stand thread (http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=42973.msg573395#new)
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on February 26, 2014, 12:19:45 PM
I am also curious as to the time frame of this run as I don't think it was mentioned.
I am not trying to pin you down, but was simply wondering what your gut is telling you.  3 months, 6 months, 12 months?  Just a rough estimate would be great.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Pfockerchief on February 28, 2014, 06:44:22 AM
Deposit sent  :D
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Acerocket on February 28, 2014, 08:43:41 AM
OK, sorry I haven't kept up with thread the past week - I have been sick the past few days and just trying to get through the work day.

I will read throught hte thread later today or over the weekend and address the questions I have been asked.

Also, the 13th spot is open again.

Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: JANGO FETT on February 28, 2014, 08:57:31 AM
deposit sent
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Corbin_Das on April 01, 2014, 04:43:15 PM
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv345%2Fcorbin_das%2FKiller%2520Penny%2Fletthereorg.jpg&hash=e4b970e72a85f3ca102b53e3f76a083efde652b7)
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: ANAKIN SKYWALKER on April 01, 2014, 05:36:43 PM
Tell me that's what I think it is. 
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on April 01, 2014, 07:54:39 PM
Here I am, trying to use all my willpower to not think about the Legacy, must not think about it whilst driving, must not think about it whilst eating..sleeping, walking, drinking....then THIS is put before me, like a beacon..beckoning... Think about the Legacy..THINK about the LEGACY... ha ha, Corbins graphics and schematics of his reborn Killer Penny are amazing, if you have not seen them yet..
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Corbin_Das on April 01, 2014, 09:38:20 PM
 I didn't mean to cause blood pressures to rise. I just saw this (with a Vader saber drawing) and thought I'd add the Penny instead. Took me a bit of searching to find an original drawing of the Penny rather than the current one with added greeblies and such, but I did. I had posted the newer Penny version on Facebook and decided to make a similar one for the original Legacy run.

 Not many folks know it, but my original intention was to call the Killer Penny by the name "Legacy". One day when Wat and I were discussing the design, and the fact that it had 3 pounds of copper on it, one of us commented "That's one KILLER PENNY!". The name sorta stuck.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: ANAKIN SKYWALKER on April 02, 2014, 06:39:53 AM
Looks like a great t shirt design.  *jedi mind trick*
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on May 26, 2014, 10:31:09 AM
Been 3 months since the announcement already.
Still dreaming about this saber every day.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on May 26, 2014, 06:44:40 PM
I know exactly how you feel my friend, ha ha, my heart pounded when my e mail notified me there was a post on this thread (sorry to anyone else who may have the same experience via me), I think Wat still has the Skinnyflex run going, a pretty awesome creation in its own right, and over SIXTY of them being made. So there might be a little wait yet, have strength!! ha ha. If you want some inspiration/ entertainment, have a look at Corbins work upgrading his original Penny somewhere on this forum, as well as a more detailed (and truly amazing) look over at Imperial Royal Arms.
I still cannot believe he gave permission for a run of these, but so grateful he did!
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Corbin_Das on May 30, 2014, 01:29:41 AM
 I look forward to seeing these in people's hands. They're going to be quite impressive, like all of Wat's work.

 It took me quite a while to get to a point where I was willing to have copies of the Penny done. But I'm truly touched that so many folks seem to enjoy the design so much, even after all this time. While I can't convey the countless hours I had in trying to narrow down the original design, a very large portion of my decisions were based on feedback I got from Wat. I have no doubt that there were several times where he wanted to strangle me. LOL. But he was always the professional.

 I hope to have the original KP finished shortly. I'll take some pics of the two, side by side, if people want. Granted, the original will look a tad different now. Perhaps a side by side picture comparison of the Penny in its original form would be more appropriate. Whatever folks want.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on May 30, 2014, 03:01:15 AM
I have thoroughly enjoyed watching the original Killer Penny metamorphosize into its new guise, through, what seems like, Corbins wishes that the saber could have been, but technology was not yet there, and new ideas formed both over the years, and as the build currently continued. Personally I would love to see comparisons to the new Legacy, the original Penny AND the new Penny. For me there can not be enough information on all aspects of this saber. From concept, build, modifications, alternate attempts, improvements and even future ideas. It is my Millennium Falcon of sabers, ever since I first saw it. And as far as the throat throttling Wat may have felt toward Corbin, (real or imagined, ha ha) I see it all as an indication to the amount of energy that was being invested in this piece of art. Energy we now get to enjoy ourselves in the Legacy. And I will say it again..Thank you both SO much Wat and Corbin! for offering the Legacy to this community!
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Corbin_Das on June 07, 2014, 06:42:11 PM
Thanks Basalter

 I'll probably take pics with them side by side. Unfortunately, I gotta find a new machinist to help me finish the Penny. Mostly just a few tweeks here and there, but tweeks I need done.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Vercify on June 07, 2014, 06:57:24 PM
...I gotta find a new machinist to help me finish the Penny...

:(
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on June 07, 2014, 08:05:06 PM
Thanks Basalter

 I'll probably take pics with them side by side. Unfortunately, I gotta find a new machinist to help me finish the Penny. Mostly just a few tweeks here and there, but tweeks I need done.
That is slightly sad news mate, I know how long you have been working on the upgrades, to be so near...I keep an eye out every day on IRA hoping your updates will go from page 5 to page 6-7...
I realize all good things take time but, even the pyramids did eventually get finished! Hope a good machinist turns up near to you.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Acerocket on June 23, 2014, 03:48:40 PM
Update time. (click the pics for larger images)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FIMG_9801_zpse0d80eed.jpg&hash=0551ffe22a9780d84d60ff83cb05a9f33394ab08) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/IMG_9801_zpse0d80eed.jpg.html)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FIMG_9802_zps6a301cfa.jpg&hash=2dc0723ddcb8b33429011cd7bf82dbf59967ee8c) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/IMG_9802_zps6a301cfa.jpg.html)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FIMG_9803_zps41255d91.jpg&hash=31b068d6e16440bf09f63e7ec75dedd4ac34a1e8) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/IMG_9803_zps41255d91.jpg.html)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FIMG_9804_zpsd1b6e8c6.jpg&hash=cf37badf852ce9dd030c236e70dcc3a8f39d7878) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/IMG_9804_zpsd1b6e8c6.jpg.html)

No, that's not the actual grip, it's my test piece.  But you can see how the brass endcap screws off, the grip slides off and you have access to the chassis can.  It's coming along nicely I think.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on June 23, 2014, 05:34:01 PM
Progress is looking Great !
Thanks for taking the time to share with us.  Progress pics are always appreciated.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on June 23, 2014, 07:57:44 PM
Wonderful, wonderful workmanship (naturally) Shiver down my spine when I saw posts on this topic! Cant wait to see the blade end! Seeing all that copper on your facebook page was pretty amazing!
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Sanjuro on June 24, 2014, 01:04:10 AM
Excellent!

Respectfully,
Sanjuro
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Acerocket on July 07, 2014, 04:53:12 PM
Spent an hour or so on Sunday (yeah, it was a holiday weekend but the wife and kids were under the weather so I stole a few hours to work) cuting and counterboring some brass tubing.

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FIMG_9846_zpsf666c0b3.jpg&hash=3d2cab922f8e412f3a4d59cb8afe21308253f4d6) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/IMG_9846_zpsf666c0b3.jpg.html)

Put the part on the fixture jig.
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Come back 2 hours later.
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Yes, two hours to profile the part.  Slot, drill and tap 5 holes, then turn a round od into a 15 raised/15 grooved fluted profile.  It takes a .05" diameter endmill to cut the .025" radius of the bottom of the flute groove (at 3 incher per minute of travel over a 3.7" long part).  Then a lot of cutting with a 1/8" ball end mill.

And just for fun, I gave my personal sber's grip a quick trip to the buffing wheel to clean it up.
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FIMG_9849_zps0c28bcd0.jpg&hash=1a84127b0d81dde99c84e0799a9d74b4ada7b692) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/IMG_9849_zps0c28bcd0.jpg.html)
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Wildcard on July 07, 2014, 05:00:38 PM
That's coming out awesome Watt; I'm envious of those who are in this tribute run! :)
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: GusManB on July 07, 2014, 05:15:39 PM
Wow Shiny, vary nice!
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on July 07, 2014, 05:31:13 PM
Such Beauty  :o
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on July 08, 2014, 09:36:31 PM
Fascinating, as well as beautiful! Whilst Corbins original Pennys' hand-grip is a part from an antique fire extinguisher, and unique for that, this piece being an (excellent) attempt at replicating gives it a look that is very much the same, but different, if that makes sense. It has a slightly more polished, exacting, feel. And I suspect that is what we may find with our Legacies. Replicas in every way, but the Penny will still remain unique. I realise also that the weight saving grooves are not being machined in the blade holder section, as well as the Penny itself is at this moment getting an ever evolving upgrade. But I believe even if the Killer Penny stayed in its original form, that it would still stand apart from the Legacies. It seems a little more organic, which, as years of holding and wearing prove, is no great surprise. But it is more than that. Though the same artist is now recreating his work, he is using upgraded tools, and now works sure-footedly. The Pennys design is an old friend, slowly created, recut and further shaved, until finally it stood, approved by both designer and machinist. Now revisited with upgraded software, tools using new technology, and with a few extra years experience under his belt, the Legacy will be a work of wonder, a beautiful homage, and a fascinating tribute to an iconic saber. But it will be also be a different beast. There can only be, as a similar saying goes, one Penny.
(Rereading this as a post I realise it might sound like I am downgrading the Legacy. This is so far from the truth. I am fascinated by the skill shown in Erics' work, and just found it interesting to see how an artist, even reproducing past work, cannot help but RE- create that piece, anew if you will. Apologies Eric, if it seemed disrespectful.)
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Corbin_Das on July 09, 2014, 01:25:37 PM
 Looking great!

 I'm really looking forward to seeing these complete. It's cool (and a bit humbling) to see all the affection for the design. There are some improvements these will have over the original setup too. Strength from having the blade emitter section screw onto the neck (similar to the K3GR1) is one of the most notable. The original just slides over and is held in place with a couple screws. It's still fairly solid, but not like the Legacy run will be. How many folks knew that "Legacy" was SUPPOSED to be the name of the Penny, but Erik and I just kept calling it the Killer Penny because of all the copper?

 Basalter, I don't think you came across as disrespectful, but I might be a bit biased, since I'm the "Keeper of the Penny". LOL

 Oh, I found out earlier this year that the grip section was actually from an old torch and not a fire extinguisher, like I had been told. Still rare though, as my attempts to find another have not been very productive (or I didn't have the money at the time).
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on July 10, 2014, 01:16:53 PM
  The original just slides over and is held in place with a couple screws. It's still fairly solid, but not like the Legacy run will be. How many folks knew that "Legacy" was SUPPOSED to be the name of the Penny, but Erik and I just kept calling it the Killer Penny because of all the copper?

 

 Oh, I found out earlier this year that the grip section was actually from an old torch and not a fire extinguisher, like I had been told. Still rare though, as my attempts to find another have not been very productive (or I didn't have the money at the time).

More fascinating information about the Penny Corbin, thanks, keep it coming. I think it compliments the Legacy posts really nicely. Hope this is not derailing the Legacy topic, but I found this ("Max Sievert" torch,first on the page), Extreme Metal Polishing | Products for Sale (http://www.extrememetalpolishing.com.au/forSale.php)
and assume it is the torch you mentioned Corbin. Just so incredible to see this piece in its original form! It just makes the whole history, right up to the Legacies construction, seem so rich. Similar to the enthusiasm and efforts to replicate classic props and parts from the original trilogy. 
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: JediWizard on July 10, 2014, 02:07:30 PM
awesome find there basalter, awesome torch
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Acerocket on July 10, 2014, 02:49:18 PM
Wow, that torch looks like a pretty close match.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Pfockerchief on August 18, 2014, 05:54:30 AM
Getting anxious and excited  :D
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on August 18, 2014, 06:59:32 AM
Get even more excited by visiting Wats Facebook page! (Hope this is not taking liberties Erik.) It is under Orbital Machining, and I recommend it purely as an exercise in witnessing an artist producing beautiful work, let alone the fact they are light sabers!
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Acerocket on August 18, 2014, 01:51:18 PM
Get even more excited by visiting Wats Facebook page! (Hope this is not taking liberties Erik.) It is under Orbital Machining, and I recommend it purely as an exercise in witnessing an artist producing beautiful work, let alone the fact they are light sabers!

Nope, no problems if you want to mention the FB page.  Sometimes I post there and other times here.  I usually forget to post both places though.  I can post pictures directly to FB from the computer, but need to host them at Photobucket to post them here.  Just depends on how much time I have any given day.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on August 18, 2014, 02:21:15 PM
I also found Wats Facebook page a month or two ago.  I have been checking that more often because it seems to get updated more frequently.  I am so excited to see the progress pics almost weekly.  A little bit closer every day.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: GusManB on August 18, 2014, 03:17:38 PM
Hmm thats good to know :) I will check his FB as I am on his other run.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run - two final spots open for sale
Post by: Acerocket on September 02, 2014, 02:59:49 PM
Well, I think I am at a safe spot to say that for this run, I expect to have two extra sabers for sale.  I have been extremely careful to maximize material and not make any mistakes and have been lucky to have enough parts so far to make two extra sabers.  So, I am offering those last two spots up for sale now.

These are in progress and not ready to ship just yet (about another month or so and they will be finished). 

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FIMG_9902_zpsdb08fbce.jpg&hash=f762c791e6be01ab43464dfaf576ba42ae743463) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/IMG_9902_zpsdb08fbce.jpg.html)

Unfortunately, you will not get to pick the options on these sabers.  As they have already been machined past the point of the options, I chose how to best option each of these two remaining sabers.

The first saber has the following options:
Sound holes - yes
PLI switch - yes
PLI slot - yes
RICE port - this is no longer an option, the sabers come with parts for the brass button detail or a RICE port addition - you may choose when you install your saber.
Two switches - also no longer an option.  You will get both the single and double switch setup and you can decide when you install.
Covertech location - 6 o'clock (when saber is viewed from rear with thumbscrew at 12 o'clock)
PLI box (rear grip box) location - 9 o'clock (when saber is viewed from rear with thumbscrew at 12 o'clock)

This setup is identical to the original Killer Penny with the exception of having sound holes.

The second saber has the following options:
Sound holes - yes
PLI switch - yes
PLI slot - yes
RICE port - this is no longer an option, the sabers come with parts for the brass button detail or a RICE port addition - you may choose when you install your saber.
Two switches - also no longer an option.  You will get both the single and double switch setup and you can decide when you install.
Covertech location - 9 o'clock (when saber is viewed from rear with thumbscrew at 12 o'clock)
PLI box (rear grip box) location - 12 o'clock (when saber is viewed from rear with thumbscrew at 12 o'clock)

This is the option package most people chose (6 sabers in this option package and 3 at the original configuration)

Price wise, these two will be sold at $1500.00 each plus Paypal fees plus shipping to you (or your installer).  As I have already given the other run participants a final '30 day' payment notice, to secure yourself one of the spots, there will be no down payment taken - you will need to pay the full saber price less shipping to lock yourself into the run.

Feel free to PM if you have any questions.

I can tell you, I am personally excited to be able to offer this run.  Of all the sabers I have done over the past 10 years, this is the one I most wished I had a copy of for my personal collection. 
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run - two final spots open for sale
Post by: basalter on September 02, 2014, 07:41:55 PM
Of all the sabers I have done over the past 10 years, this is the one I most wished I had a copy of for my personal collection.
That says an awful lot, in my opinion, about how incredible this particular saber is. From a biased position of course, I have to call myself, in the case of the Killer Penny and Legacy, a dyed in the wool, weak at the knees, gushing fan! I really think this saber is THE most wonderful of all I have seen. And to place something as number one, either in film, book, art or music has never been possible for me. Shouldn't be possible! But this saber, with respect to other incredible works out there, I am happy to lay on that mantle. I do not even know really why. So to hear there are two more going, it is very difficult to not press BUY for one on that Pay Pal button. I hope two others who really wanted in on this run get to experience this piece now. The work so far looks..well, I have to put the primal sounds of amazement that want to come out of my body into a word, so, 'Incredible' will have to do. Still does not do the workmanship justice.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Sith Emperor on September 16, 2014, 10:04:21 AM
Agree 1000% with you Basalter. These do look incredible and if bills and kids were not financially draining me...this saber would absolutely be #1 on my list. When this run is finished there are gonna be some happy paople on this forum. This saber is the definition of art on a whole nother level. Just simply fantastic.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run - two final spots open for sale
Post by: Darth Smorgis on October 08, 2014, 07:58:02 PM
These are in progress and not ready to ship just yet (about another month or so and they will be finished). 

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FIMG_9902_zpsdb08fbce.jpg&hash=f762c791e6be01ab43464dfaf576ba42ae743463) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/IMG_9902_zpsdb08fbce.jpg.html)

Been a month since the above quote.  We must be getting close  :D
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Acerocket on October 09, 2014, 08:48:00 AM
Yes, they are getting close...

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FIMG_9952_zps5e3705f1.jpg&hash=5ca37b3f149a9838b0a606a09fccad791dea64e0) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/IMG_9952_zps5e3705f1.jpg.html)


I am now complete with all the lathe turning work.  I am also finished with all the copper parts.  I will finish up the brass plates this weekend and that leaves just the shroud bars.  I still have to clean (tumble in a special brass polishing media) a lot of the small brass and copper parts and those will get done when the shroud bars are finished.

OK, now to change gears a little.  I do apologize that all my projects have been slow this year.  The past year has been extremely tough on me.  Some of you may remember that at about this point last year, I had two operations in the span of two weeks.  The first to break up a 2cm kidney stone (and for my American friends, 1"=2.54 cm) and the second to remove portions of two spinal discs (double spinal disc extrusion).  The recovery from both of those slowed me down considerably for most of the past year.  As a side effect of the disc injuries, I am the proud owner of some moderate spinal nerve damage.  I have tried taking medications for the issue, but as luck would have it, I seem to have a penchant for exhibiting all the nasty side effects that come with the meds - so I have had to be extremely limited in taking them.  Most of the time, I do not notice the discomfort (my foot is pretty much numb and I am more prone to cramping in the lower leg and foot now).  At night however, the discomfort tends to make for erratic sleep patterns and I find that I am lacking sleep.  I am still investigating my treatment options and will hopefully will find something that will work for me.  Oh, and some place along the line, I picked up a nasty sinus infection that I have yet to kick.  It comes and goes every month.  I am allergic to Penicillin and a lot of non-Penicillin based antibiotic, so fighting colds is always a chore.  This one however, just won't leave.

But this past year has not been all bad news.  We found out in April that would be able to adopt our foster son.  He came to us two years ago (two years ago tomorrow as a matter of fact) when he was 8 months old.  In July, we finalized the adoption and made Edward part of our family.  So, since July isn't busy enough (two birthdays and a wedding anniversary in less than two weeks), let's toss in an adoption and party with most of the family coming to visit and celebrate.  This summer was definitely more busy and chaotic - but it was a good chaos.  Recently (three weeks ago) we were graced with another foster care placement.  This time, it was a set of three sibling sisters.  So, as you can imagine, the roller coaster ride has begun again.

I do really appreciate the kind words I have received from my fellow saber enthusiasts - be it for my work on my various project here, well wishes on my health recoveries, or for the additions to our family.  This is a great community to be a member of and I am happy that I can do my part to make others happy as well.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on October 10, 2014, 05:43:48 AM
Thank you for sharing that Wat, I was aware of some of the exciting things happening in your world, and unaware of some of the less pleasant. My sincere thoughts are with you on the medical front, as is my joy for your growing family.
I had been visiting out of town for three days, and on my return (today) I found a plain box containing an anything but plain saber, in the form of your K3GR2, at the post office, and fired up the computer tonight to discover the almost completed Legacy! What a day!! I was only thinking the other night 'I wonder if it (the Legacy) might be finished before Christmas' and from the looks of it, Santa might come early! 'All in good time' comes my calmer thoughts, and certainly I now appreciate how hectic things are for you. So again, thank you for your package and the Legacy update.   
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Acerocket on October 17, 2014, 09:17:43 AM
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FIMG_9963_zps0df7c111.jpg&hash=15cd6dc8a3af3a7814710ffd0b94fd5eb2d8d97b) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/IMG_9963_zps0df7c111.jpg.html)

Legacy #1 is finished.  I still need to wrap up the last of the machining on the bridge bar base and then get the bridge parts in the tumbler for a cleaning.  I need to do some assembly and correct some timing (alignment of parts) on the sabers than they will be ready to go.  Run participants will be getting PMs this weekend or next week regarding shipping and other matters.

Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: ANAKIN SKYWALKER on October 17, 2014, 09:27:39 AM
Wow!  It's so beautiful!  I cannot wait to get it! 

Thanks for all of your hard work on this Wat.  You have delivered yet another masterpiece. 
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on October 17, 2014, 09:41:12 AM
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  This brought tears to my eyes.  That is just spectacular :))!
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: JediWizard on October 17, 2014, 10:02:05 AM
wow that really is pretty, how long will that shine last tho :(
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on October 17, 2014, 10:21:45 AM
As long as you keep it polished ;D.  Any metal requires maintenance to maintain it's shine.  Some may choose to allow the brass to tarnish and the copper to patina as well.  It depends on what look you want.  For me, "ooooooooooooooo shiny" :)).
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Pfockerchief on October 17, 2014, 10:23:22 AM
Untouchable.  Simply can't wait to hold this beauty in my hands.  Congratulations Wat and thanks for making this a reality!
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Acerocket on October 17, 2014, 10:25:21 AM
I polished it once.  No clear, no more polishing.  I will let it weather naturally now and patina over time.

Others may choose to polish and clear coat or polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish.

I should mention, all run sabers will be shipped 'machine finish' and some parts will have been tumbled (this also helps to remove machine marks and deburr edges).  I did nothing special to my saber.  I have a stand mounted buffer and used a polishing compound and two wheels (cutting and polishing) and spent a few hours polishing the parts (over a course of a few weeks as I finished various parts and components).  I never sought to get a mirror finish but it looks very shiny (and is hard to get good pictures of with my junky camera because of that).  I knew I would go weathered and wanted to start with a 'new' condition and let nature take it's course.  Some people will want a mirror finish and that should be possible with some elbow grease.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Sanjuro on October 17, 2014, 12:30:55 PM
And...

I am back up with my laser engraver - so the stands will be ready as well.

Design for the stands will include a wood, gold and bronze mirror acrylic, and clear acrylic.

Pics to be pending....

Respectfully,
Sanjuro
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darkjedi on October 17, 2014, 12:44:20 PM
One day one these " unicorns" will fall into my hands, the force willing. ::)
I wouldn't know what to do with it. Leave it static, stunt or or full sound.

It just so PRETTY!

Wat's done such a great job on these.

You guys are on the homestretch  ;) I can't want for all the vids on the builds to come. It's gonna be EPIC.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: SithStalker on October 17, 2014, 01:10:07 PM
Wow one of the most beautiful hilts ever  :o
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on October 17, 2014, 05:24:53 PM
Looks Amazing Wat.  I cant freakin wait!
Also very excited to see what Sanjuro has designed for the stand.

Thanks for the update and pic.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on October 17, 2014, 07:34:03 PM

Others may choose to polish and clear coat or polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish and polish.

And thank, and thank,and thank,and......
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Aginor on October 17, 2014, 08:00:20 PM
Looks great Wat, can't wait to see one lit up! Thanks for the update
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Acerocket on November 06, 2014, 02:34:50 PM
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLegacy%2FIMG_9975_zps4b9dcf89.jpg&hash=f0f62a25606e15d7b695410fbd7218d3df5ab7ef) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/Legacy/IMG_9975_zps4b9dcf89.jpg.html)
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Vercify on November 06, 2014, 03:18:53 PM
Sheesh. Those look incredible. Congrats to everyone who is on the run, those are a real piece of art and saber history.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darkjedi on November 06, 2014, 03:24:48 PM
You need to change your name to " Michelangelo" these are true works of art. Bravo to the master once again.

Better cut on the alarm and get the armed guards cause that place looks like Fort Knox.


Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on November 06, 2014, 05:55:19 PM
Dear lord!  I can tell which one is mine by looking at the options chosen!
4th from the right has my name written all over it  8)

Such a beautiful sight.
Super excited about the freebie as well.  A very nice surprise.

Thanks again for making this happen Wat.  Huge props.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on November 06, 2014, 06:52:08 PM
When I got the PM, I about swooned.  Literally.  Erik you have almost outdone yourself.  These are so absolutely gorgeous!
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on November 06, 2014, 09:08:52 PM
Just look at that line of sabers. What a piece of work is man,.. man, a piece of work is Wat!
These look like artifacts, found and on display, ready for the museum. It is almost a shame such a collection will be scattered around the world, as the visual power these have all together is phenomenal, and that is only photographed! You are a lucky man, Wat, to be able to see these all in one place. The people on this run will all be linked forever by these works. My gratitude is unwritable. My appreciation indescribable. You are an artist of no small calibre Wat. Thank you.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Aginor on November 06, 2014, 10:02:56 PM
These look phenomenal Wat!! Fantastic work. I can hardly wait to hold mine, it will be epic!!! 8)
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Corbin_Das on November 06, 2014, 10:31:15 PM
 Very well done, Erik! 

 Admittedly, at first I wasn't sure how close the grip sections and their PLI boxes would be, since the originals (I think) were extruded tubing and sheet brass pressed into/over a die. I have to say though, these ARE the "as first made" versions of the Penny. Attention to detail is spot on. I intend to keep mine fairly shiny, though perhaps not like a mirror. It should make a cool companion to the original Penny, that I'm hoping to have finished shortly.

 Those of you getting one, I don't have to tell you how small a group you're becoming a part of. Even smaller than the K3GR owners, which is pretty exclusive in its own right. I feel like we need to have a secret handshake or something now. LOL  :))  MATCHING TATTOOS! YEAH, THAT'S IT.

Just kidding


Dear lord!  I can tell which one is mine by looking at the options chosen!
4th from the right has my name written all over it  8)


 I think mine is right next to yours. LOL

 
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on November 25, 2014, 07:26:30 PM
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1214.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc490%2Fbroton%2FLegacy%2FIMG_0343.jpg&hash=4ae04421967de7a59bfededaa801572139d6fab5) (http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc490/broton/Legacy/IMG_0343.jpg)
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I picked up an unassuming box from the PO this morning, but what contents it held! Apologies for rough pics (hand shaking) The workmanship, the precision of every part, could not slip a piece of tissue paper in between the switch plate and its mount. I wonder whether a new topic is suitable for Legacy owners to post arrivals and progress? or keep them all here? Anyway, my thanks Erik, I will not bother trying to describe the feelings experienced upon first seeing and holding this piece. I would not do justice to the wonder of the moment. Look forward to other images from those lucky enough to be in on this run.
 Please note: the blu-tack 'gunk' on a piece in photo five is my work, just to hold it there for a second.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Corbin_Das on December 05, 2014, 11:00:54 PM
Looks great.  I can't wait to receive mine.

Basalter:

Instead of the "blu tack gunk", why not use something like epoxy or E6000?
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on December 06, 2014, 02:09:54 AM

Basalter:

Instead of the "blu tack gunk", why not use something like epoxy or E6000?
Well Corbin, as you are the designer and owner of the Original Killer Penny, I will take this as sage advice. I have given the Legacy a polish since the last photos (even though Wats' finish was fine enough, with no real visible machine marks whatsoever) and these materials (that the Legacy is made of) are so beautiful together. Brass and copper have such a worldly, almost alive, charm. I am chafing at the bit to see others when they arrive. I guess now I just have to wait for the next run of CF 7s'. Not that that has stopped me from running around the backyard swishing and swooping at imaginary foes.
Is this any way for a 50 year old man to be acting?
'YES!' I shout, from the highest slippery slide I can find!
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on December 06, 2014, 05:28:02 AM
I am chafing at the bit to see others when they arrive. I guess now I just have to wait for the next run of CF 7s'.

Mine is with my installer at the moment, but as you mentioned everyone is most likely waiting for a fresh batch of CFv7's before we see any completed installs.  It will be very interesting to see what direction everyone goes with these.  Mine will be fairly basic: GGR tri-led, full green bargraph, CFv7.X, possibly a CeX for blade colors green through red.  No fancy crystal reveal for mine planned at the moment.  I dont believe a hilt of this quality needs a lot of bells and whistles to make it shine.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on December 06, 2014, 05:58:37 AM
Thanks for that info Darth Smorgis. I had talked to a few others about theirs, would they be interested to chip and and mention what they had planned? And actually, come to think of it, I would love to know if Wat is going to leave his as a tribute to his machining skills, or do an install of some sort?
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on December 09, 2014, 03:57:45 PM
Received an unboxing video from my installer today.  Took a few screen shots of the unveiling.

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Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on December 09, 2014, 04:51:42 PM
Very happy for you mate! Would LOVE to see a video, or even some shots of it lit. (I loved the aluminium cylinder/blade plug that Wat used to protect the brass shroud, it was almost a small saber in itself!)
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on December 09, 2014, 05:13:08 PM
The saber is not finished, so there won't be any pics or video with the blade lit up.  This was simply my installer taking the saber out of the box as received directly from Wat.  Did not mean to confuse you.  Will be a while still before the installation is done.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Clark Kent on December 09, 2014, 05:16:57 PM
wow that is nice. makes me wish i got one now  :(
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on December 09, 2014, 06:35:38 PM
The saber is not finished, so there won't be any pics or video with the blade lit up.  This was simply my installer taking the saber out of the box as received directly from Wat.  Did not mean to confuse you.  Will be a while still before the installation is done.
My bad Darth Smorgis, did not read post correctly. Hope you get to enjoy it (relatively) soon!
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Sith Emperor on December 10, 2014, 08:57:42 PM
Man I can only imagine how awesome one of these looks in person. The nicest hilt I have ever seen. Congrats to those who got them! Enjoy :D
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Acerocket on December 12, 2014, 04:10:40 PM
Wow, talk about snail mail shipping.  It's only been two and a half weeks but those 'freebies' finally showed up today.   The remaining boxes are all packed and will be shipped tomorrow.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on December 12, 2014, 05:12:22 PM
I am truly excited for my fellow Legacy owners soon to receive their sabers. I practiced (for about thirty seconds) last night twirling mine, and this morning I think I have damaged something. I want to write 'ha ha' after this, but it hurts! WHY, why did I think I had in my little twig arms (wrists) the power to yield such an AWESOME saber!!!!
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: JediWizard on December 12, 2014, 05:16:50 PM
what did you damage Basalter?
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on December 12, 2014, 06:45:50 PM
Pride mostly, but my wrist seems to ike, 'click' when I turn it. Are you (he asks hopefully) a doctor by chance?
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: JANGO FETT on December 12, 2014, 07:38:30 PM
Wow, talk about snail mail shipping.  It's only been two and a half weeks but those 'freebies' finally showed up today.   The remaining boxes are all packed and will be shipped tomorrow.

It's a Christmas Legacy!  ^-^

Ho! Ho! Ho!
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Acerocket on December 12, 2014, 07:42:21 PM
Pride mostly, but my wrist seems to ike, 'click' when I turn it. Are you (he asks hopefully) a doctor by chance?

One simply doesn't 'wield' sheer awesomeness as if it were a pepperoni stick.  You need to build up by do 1000 push-ups every day for 10 years and then start punching trees until you can crack a might oak in a single blow.  Then, and only then, once you transform those wet noodles into bars of unobtanioum, will you body be worthy of such a weapon.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Sith Emperor on December 12, 2014, 09:34:55 PM
Well said!!!
Killer saber congrats to the lucky ones!
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Corbin_Das on December 13, 2014, 05:35:55 PM
My wrist seems to like, 'click' when I turn it.

 I'm wondering if the Legacy sabers need to come with a warning label.  ;) "WARNING! EXTREME AMOUNTS OF AWESOMENESS! PREPARE YOURSELF BEFORE USE!"   ^-^


UPDATE!  I just received my Legacy in the mail. I took a few pics of it next to the Killer Penny, for comparison:


  The Legacy is on top and the Penny is under it.      You can see the Penny's core at the bottom of the pics.
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Here you can see just how close the Legacy is to the original design. The attention to detail is striking.
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 Note: I put the Penny back in its original configuration for the pics. My current upgrade on the Penny has a "realistic" core.



Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on January 03, 2015, 06:03:11 PM
Pretty amazing to see this. Also shows the amount of incredible work Corbin has done on his original Penny. Anyone else out there had there Legacys arrive yet? I would LOVE to see pictures, even if they are still in the box!
Here is a link on these forums to the current mods on mine in case some missed it.

Legacy Saber no 4 (http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=45347.0)
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Sanjuro on January 06, 2015, 05:09:28 AM
Hello All,

Just a follow up on the stands for the Legacy lightsaber.

I received mine over the weekend (acutally, I received it about a week ago, but had been on vacation until now).

I'll take the final measurements and complete the stand this weekend.

It turns out that I was caught by surprise about how heavy this excellent piece of art is...  And a good thing too.  I'll make some slight changes to the stand to accomodate the extra weight and add extra supports to make the stand much more sturdy to reflect.

Truly, the pictures of this lightsaber do not do it justice.  You really have to see it in person, and hold it in your hand to realize how much of a piece of art this really is.  Simply stunning, and probably one of the most beautiful lightsabers ever made.

Thank you Wat and Corbin, and others who made this possible.

Respectfully,
Sanjuro
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on January 06, 2015, 06:36:32 AM
Pride mostly, but my wrist seems to ike, 'click' when I turn it. Are you (he asks hopefully) a doctor by chance?

One simply doesn't 'wield' sheer awesomeness as if it were a pepperoni stick.  You need to build up by do 1000 push-ups every day for 10 years and then start punching trees until you can crack a might oak in a single blow.  Then, and only then, once you transform those wet noodles into bars of unobtanioum, will you body be worthy of such a weapon.

As previous dialogue has suggested, I think most recipients, but for Corbin and Wat, will be MOST surprised at this masterpieces heft.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: GENERAL GRIEVOUS on January 06, 2015, 02:01:56 PM
Hello All,

Just a follow up on the stands for the Legacy lightsaber.

I received mine over the weekend (acutally, I received it about a week ago, but had been on vacation until now).

I'll take the final measurements and complete the stand this weekend.

It turns out that I was caught by surprise about how heavy this excellent piece of art is...  And a good thing too.  I'll make some slight changes to the stand to accomodate the extra weight and add extra supports to make the stand much more sturdy to reflect.

Truly, the pictures of this lightsaber do not do it justice.  You really have to see it in person, and hold it in your hand to realize how much of a piece of art this really is.  Simply stunning, and probably one of the most beautiful lightsabers ever made.

Thank you Wat and Corbin, and others who made this possible.

Respectfully,
Sanjuro

This is perfectly said. 
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Pfockerchief on April 22, 2015, 07:10:28 PM
Hello All,

Just a follow up on the stands for the Legacy lightsaber.

I received mine over the weekend (acutally, I received it about a week ago, but had been on vacation until now).

I'll take the final measurements and complete the stand this weekend.

It turns out that I was caught by surprise about how heavy this excellent piece of art is...  And a good thing too.  I'll make some slight changes to the stand to accomodate the extra weight and add extra supports to make the stand much more sturdy to reflect.

Truly, the pictures of this lightsaber do not do it justice.  You really have to see it in person, and hold it in your hand to realize how much of a piece of art this really is.  Simply stunning, and probably one of the most beautiful lightsabers ever made.

Thank you Wat and Corbin, and others who made this possible.

Respectfully,
Sanjuro

How is this coming along Sanjuro?
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on June 25, 2016, 04:58:33 AM
Well it has been about a year and a half since we received our hilts.  Has anyone actually completed theirs with an install yet?
Cant believe we have not seen one lit up yet.  Mine is still with my installer just waiting for the time.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on June 25, 2016, 05:22:24 AM
Hi Darth Smorgis,
Hope all is well, I sympathize that you are still waiting, and have indeed not even laid eyes on your hilt yet? I had mine finished, and put up some images on the eve of Episode 7, so obviously no one really saw them among all the hype going on on these forums. Will see if I can locate the pics. But yes, mine is all done, thanks to Mersenne.
Here is the post just before I sent it back to Mersenne to redo the tiny switches that I did not successfully wire...
 Legacy No 4 almost done (http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=48109.0)
but cannot find my final post of completed saber.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Darth Smorgis on June 25, 2016, 05:32:43 AM
Hi Darth Smorgis,
Hope all is well, I sympathize that you are still waiting, and have indeed not even laid eyes on your hilt yet? I had mine finished, and put up some images on the eve of Episode 7, so obviously no one really saw them among all the hype going on on these forums. Will see if I can locate the pics. But yes, mine is all done, thanks to Mersenne.
Here is the post just before I sent it back to Mersenne to redo the tiny switches that I did not successfully wire...
 Legacy No 4 almost done (http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=48109.0)
but cannot find my final post of completed saber.

Hmmm, yeah I saw that post a while ago but never saw the completed saber.
Perhaps it was not posted on this forum, I am not able to find it either.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: basalter on June 25, 2016, 06:01:31 PM
Cannot believe I did not post finished saber! More out of respect to Mersenne than anything. I even dragged out my old camera and guess what...no pictures! At the moment the saber is sitting with a machinist for reference to a new Penny/Legacy build that Corbin has kindly agreed to. Did not want to copy (some) of his work without permission. So as far as evidence, I guess I will need to drop by and get some shots. Good luck with your build Darth Smorgis, I hope it will be soon finished.
Title: Re: LEGACY – The Killer Penny tribute run
Post by: Aginor on June 25, 2016, 07:26:11 PM
I haven't even layed eyes on mine yet, still with my installer. Hopefully I'll get it soon