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Outer Rim => Polls => Topic started by: Yoda on September 27, 2007, 03:54:48 AM
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Hello everyone
With the Ultimate Icon of our time the Luke Skywalker Lightsaber from A New Hope being finally produced by
Master replicas as their last force-fx replica we are posting a specific thread for these thoughts and a poll to go with it 8)
Please remember not to needlessly argue with each other but discuss the product and it's pro's and con's ;)
If the MR just doesn't do it for you at all, you can opt to vote for Graflex replicas as well :D
MTFBWY
always
YODA
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For now I am Voting Graflex only. ;)
The ANH FX has just taken too long to be released, and with all the hooplah surrounding the "delays" regarding the non-renewal of the LFL license, it just lost the "mojo" for me. :-\
When I first signed up for the group order, I was really excited. The pictures of the prototype looked really promising, and I really WANTED this saber. The Graflex, and Graflex-inspired (Anakin ROTS) sabers have always held a special mystique to me. I love the look of those 40's flashguns, and having them be a part of my favorite movies of all time makes them even more special.
After reading a few reviews of the ANH (and still not having mine in my hands..) I have come to realize that this saber probably won't fill the bill for me. I may still keep one around, just to have the last "decent" FX MR will be doing, but it will mostly just be a display piece, or kept in the box...
When I finally get one, and it gets tested and inspected, I will make my final judgement. At this time however, I will be saving every red cent I can, so that I may soon purchase a TRUE Graflex saber from our very own Master Yoda. They just can't be beaten! ;)
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I held a Luke ANH at DragonCon several weeks ago, and really liked it. The hilt seemed as light as the ROTJ, but the blade felt heavier from what I remember, it didn't really seem balanced for spinning. It definitely mimicked a Graflex well, but I'd never take one over my Yoda made Graflex. If I had money coming out of my ears, I pick one up.
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Haven't hold the MR ANH Luke. But man! Graflex all the way ;D
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Just read the heated Luke ANH thread, and didn't notice all the cheap stuff when I held it. I did notice the fake clamp, but nothing really glaring. The blade sure was purty. :D
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I too voted Graflex only for now. I may go to Toys R' Us and pick one up just to have because it's the last of the FX's, but I'm not 100% certain that I will even do that. :-\
Heck, I may just have Yoda make me an ANH Graflex with STEVE 2.0 later on...it'd be money better spent anyways.
-Joclad
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Pro's:
+ Hilt size
+ Activation switch (not in the middle like ESB)
+ Details
Con's:
- Fake rabbit ear ring
- Painting (or chroming?) defects (overall on the clamp pieces)
I'll say, ok, but it could have been better, or the best ls from mr.
Anyway, graflex or vintage are better. all the time!
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Personally, I would rather save and purchase a Graflex from Yoda. I would probably purchase the MR ANH and leave it in the box in the attic and just wait and then re sell it at a later time.
EDIT - Another thing in regards to MR is consistency. Some have dark spots others do not. One blade is slightly brighter, one saber is slightly louder. One's speaker works the other craps out on you in a minute. Sometimes getting an FX really is a surprise.
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Well I look it at is this way. The MR sabers are nice collectables, but having the recycled sounds for all the Jedi sabers really turns me off, which is why I sold a few of my sabers, well I needed money to. I think if you have the money, have a saber built to your liking with actual movie sounds, which can happen, the only sabers I like from MR are the Vader sabers cause the are built to the acutal prop and have the correct sounds except for inginition. I would buy from Yoda but I cant afford it no offense master yoda. I think it really depends on your taste myself, I dont want a Luke ANH since he doesnt use it in battle, I would have rather seen a Obi weathered with the Vader ANH as a 30th release
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Well as a proud new owner of a Yoda Vintage Graflex ESB, I have to say there could be nothing closer than what Mark Hamill held during filiming. In all reality with Yoda's Crystal chamber my saber is actually better than the original.
IMO if you can afford it go Graflex all the way. You won't be disappointed that it looks fake or toyish because it won't.
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I was actually one of the few who received the MR Luke ANH when the first batch was released back in June - so I'v had this FX for a while now. Let me first say that there's no comparison between the MR ANH and a Yoda Graflex. Yoda does outstanding work on his sabers and you won't get a more accurate graflex saber anywhere else. The ANH Graflex I'v got is superb in its detail and accuracy, and to me, is the definitive graflex saber.
But even with that said, I still like the MR ANH FX. I too was a little disappointed at the less-than-stellar rabbit ears, and of course the absence of that third window as a result, however, in the grand scheme of things - it's a pretty darn good FX. And it's certainly better than not having had anything at all. Sure the color of the blade is not Cyan, (which you can get on a graflex from Yoda), but at least it's a lighter, and brighter, blue than that on the Obi-Wan and Anakin ROTS FXs. And as others have mentioned, the clash sensor on the ANH FX really is top notch. It's also very light and easy to spin, for me at least. :) Creaking seems to be a major problem with some of them, though.
So although I voted for the Graflex, I definitely think the MR ANH is a worthy addition to any FX collection.
So if you want a decent attempt at a graflex that's not too expensive - the ANH FX is for you. If you want something accurate and valuable - and as close as possible to the saber Luke held in the films - a Graflex Replica or Vintage is the way to go. ;)
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I'm waiting for my saber from JB, I had time to play with one at ToysRUs, and this is one I'll keep just for the fact it will be my only STOCK MR FX saber, everything else in my collection is modified or custom.
Still waiting for Yoda's SURPRISE saber to put MR to shame ;D
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Graflexs only. I'm going to get one from you Yoda ;)
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Well, I voted yes for the MR ANH! The reasons I'll explain. Put the pitch forks away! :o I voted yes because it will be the last FX that MR makes. It's an official Luke ANH saber. It is a replica of the saber that got a lot of people hooked on Star Wars and created a 30 year love affair with the movies and it's technology.
Now I did not vote yes because it is the be all end all Graflex ANH! We know very well that it isn't. I did not vote yes because it is an accurate replica, because it isn't. For what it is, a licensed ANH collectable, the last of its kind from MR, is why I voted yes.
If you want the be all end all of Graflex replicas look no further than our own Mater Yoda. That is where you will find the perfect Graflex saber and no where else (except the one I built ;)).
And everyone please remember that we are all young at heart here playing with and collecting something that we have all come to love for one reason or another. And that is what unites all of us together in this family of ours. Our love of lightsabers.
May the Force be with all of us!
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Peace be upon all,
I really like Lars' balanced perspective. Even though I really like the looks and the history of the LANH FX, it's one of my least favorites in regards to spinnability due to all the knobs and protrusions on the hilt. That considered, I have one on the way via UPS due to arrive on Monday, God-willing.
My main reason for ordering is because of the history and because of the "Last of the MR-FX" issue. I actually debated for a while with my wife last night over whether to make this a display-only saber with only casual, demo-swinging aloud or do what I love to do with the others I own and battle with it with the ultimate goal of sending it to Ultra so it can be worn as a handsome hilt 8)
That being said, I might just send it back and put the money towards my custom sabers budget. Owning one of Yoda's Crystal Chamber Graflexes would be the dream ;)
-Bin Adam
ps.. should I still post a review when i get it?
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We will never turn down a post Bin Adam. Of course only do what you want to but it does help some of the guys that are on the fence about a particular saber. Most of us here are into hearing the good the bad and the ugly about sabers. How else can we make an educated decision on a future purchase.
So go ahead and post a review if you like "but don't make it look like you are posting a review." "I don't know fly post casual." lol :D :D :D
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Peace be upon all,
Well, I guess it just wouldn't be right to get a saber like that and say nothing ??? So I will definitely try and share some sights and sounds.
thanks for the feedback TK-421.
Bin Adam
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I'll have a completely definitve answer in a few days... Although I KNOW that iw will still be Graflex! ;)
Just got confirmation from bailinski! INCOMING! ;D
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WHOA!!! :o
I've been away from this forum for quite some time so I was unaware of the Graflex FX's by Yoda. Pretty spectacular! I still have yet to read all the info about them but they do seem to be most impressive!
Anyways, I can't say for certain until I receive my MR Luke ANH, but I think I'll be content with it.
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The MR Luke ANH is Definitely worthy of my collection.
It's not like its a Hasbro lightsaber, afterall.
Plus I would not group one of Yoda's works of art in with any of the MR sabers. His is in its own class.
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I agree, Master Anakin. Graflex and MR are two different classes. With that said, the MR Luke ANH is the best IMHO MR FFX ever made. Accurate sounds and size, second smallest hilt, (Behind Yoda's) longest blade of ALL FFXs, lightweight and detailed and for crying out loud, I can shave off of my "bunny ears", they are very well crafted and smooth. I still don't see what the crying about the "bunny ears" is?
This is a MR folks, not a custom or prop. But that's my two cents.
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I agree, Master Anakin. Graflex and MR are two different classes. With that said, the MR Luke ANH is the best IMHO MR FFX ever made. Accurate sounds and size, second smallest hilt, (Behind Yoda's) longest blade of ALL FFXs, lightweight and detailed and for crying out loud, I can shave off of my "bunny ears", they are very well crafted and smooth. I still don't see what the crying about the "bunny ears" is?
This is a MR folks, not a custom or prop. But that's my two cents.
I agree with your...err... agreement :P. And also especially considering that, depending on where you go, you can pick one of these bad boys up for under $100.
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Welcome back leatherwings.
And yes Yoda's graflex's are truly spectacular, I have the ESB. But you can't compare them to anything else because they are a league all there own. It's like comparing a Ferrari to a Mustang. Both are nice cars but that's where you cease in comparison.
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Ferrari being the MR ANH, eh?
"Just kidding....you're alright!" - (https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi107.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm301%2FHubblengc6872%2Ftha70c54f8.gif&hash=df386fed1353a99c44be69cba7e4c9c78bb9bdc3)
Nothing come close to the Master Yoda Graflex.
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I voted for the MR ANH because I have one and its awesome but the Graflex of course is MUCH MUCH better.
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Since I already have a Yoda made Luke ANH + ESB, the answer is easy.
I have wondered if Yoda will be making an Anakin styled hilt....
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I voted yes. I personally like it and will keep mine. The sounds on mine are superb and very responsive, the best I've personally seen on any of the MR sabers I've handled (for the record I've only seen the Luke ROTJ, Darth Maul, anakin ROTS and the Joe Jedi kit).
I doubt I will ever own a Yoda made Graflex, vintage or replica, so the MR is a nice display piece to just hang on the wall and occasionally take down and swing for a bit. (Of course I would like to own a Yoda but.....)
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I revived this thread because I was inspired by Elandron's beauty.
http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=16538.0;topicseen (http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=16538.0;topicseen)
And I'm on Yoda's waiting list. ;D
I bought the Luke ANH for my best friend, and I really liked it. The feel of the hilt in my hands was wonderful. But I've also previously owned a Yoda Graflex (if you want the whole story, I'd need to start a new thread :D ). Even though Han said:
Graflex and MR are two different classes.
In my honest opinion, a lightsaber is a lightsaber. I only want one of each model, and I want the most movie accurate of each one...be it MR or whatever.
So, obviously, I voted for Yoda's Graflex. That will be the only Luke ANH/ESB lightsaber in my collection. ;)
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I was going to resurrect this one because I have a little at the moment and I have many reivews to write and depict, including Master Yoda's Masterpiece. I have one of the original ANH Graflexs and it is in a class of it's own! That's for finding this old fossil! I will stand by my opinion as you just cannot compare the two. And the ANH is more of a lightsaber to me than the clunky ESB model.
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Well, I just got one from ebay with the intention to dismantle it for the sundboard, as it was only priced at $49.99 bin....expected it to be damaged at that price, but when it arrived humming in it's box (yes, they shipped it with batteries, and it somehow got activated during shipping) I found it to have been shipped in the original box as well. The saber is near mint condition, with no creaking in the blade. I'm not sure I want to take it apart now or not..... :o
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That is a good question. Depends if you really want to clean it up and sell it, or display it or go through with utilizing it. Master Qui-Gon, I have to do some spring cleaning like I mentioned about my Rec Room last night (I think it was with you on ORA) but I may found some surprises that may "sound" good to your ears! ;) Give me a week to go through the rooms.
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If you really want to go for its "original spirit", then I think a real Graflex would be the answer.
I mean, this is basically where it "comes" from.
I don't really like replicas in general (prefer original designs) but with this one... this is where it all started :)
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Master Qui-Gon, I have to do some spring cleaning like I mentioned about my Rec Room last night (I think it was with you on ORA) but I may found some surprises that may "sound" good to your ears! ;) Give me a week to go through the rooms.
ooooOOOOHHHHHH, ...sounds like someone found some MR boards!!
While I like the original Graflexes, .....and really believe every star wars fan should TRY to get one, ...I also think that MR did a pretty good job in capturing the look.
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MR boards??? Always on the lookout ;)
MR did a nice job, but it the same old thing. You get what you pay for. YODA's graflex is the epitome of replicas. Anything else will be second best ;)
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love it! have not got one but would like to get my hands on one :)
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Love the MR Luke ANH, I painted sections of it black and gave it a Silver LED and a violet filter, it is one of my favorite hilts of my collection.
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I love mine, and here's the story behind mine:
The Star Wars exhibition recently went through my local Science Museum, and I naturally went to go see it - twice. The first time, I went with a friend of mine, and we walked though the exhibit, looking at all the props (I liked the Star Destroyer from ANH, and he walked right over to the Millennium Falcon) and at the end of the exhibit, in the gift shop, I first came into the presence of FX lightsabers. I'd been looking for sabers for a long time, and wasn't really comfortable ordering any offline (I was 15), and there were some sabers there, on a rack, for $70.00, brand new.. I wanted one, but I had no money. So, I returned with my family, and I wanted to pick up a Luke ANH. However, when I arrived in the gift shop, there were only Yoda FX sabers left. I was disappointed, but then, I looked up, at the costumes mounted up above the main part of the shop, and lo and behold, there was a Luke ANH displayed on the wall, 40 feet up. I asked whether it was for sale (it was, the exhibit was leaving in two days), and an employee went and got a ladder and took the saber down, boxed it up, and sold it to me for $70.00. That's my Luke ANH story, and I still love it. Even if it creaks. ;)
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I wouldn't trade any thing for my Skywalker Lightsaber made by Icons. It'll never have a blade, but it's as accurate as any other replica I've seen. I got it when it came out and it was my first saber.
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i would def say the Luke ANH MR is a keeper, it was my very first saber i ever got and ive cherished it ever since, ive added 4 more sabers to my collection and im gonna keep goin all thanks to that very first one ;D
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I voted YES it is worthy.
I love the Graflex and custom saber versions of the LUKE ANH out there of course.
The (stock) MR FX was my 1st real collectable saber too. ;D
I think the stock version is a great value for what you get.
I even have an UltraSabers Cyan LUX III conversion LUKE ANH.
It just brings back great childhood memories. ;D
My Ultra converted Luke ANH:
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi280.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk190%2F5150_ebay%2FMy_Luke_ANH_flipped.jpg&hash=cca5ce68d23588bcaf311c8c0f456651b76c2338)
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I've recently been working on Luke ANHs in general, to convert some. I've been inside two, and they're really quality pieces of machinery. I also like how it looks aesthetically - and besides, this is THE lightsaber, the very first one we ever saw - and, I believe, the last lightsaber (I know, it was Anakin ROTS, but it's the same lightsaber...) seen in Episode III.
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It seems that the luke ANH is a fitting end for the MR FX sabers. "let's end where we started, and we can begin a new."
Kinda like an anniversary saber, only it's a funeral saber.
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It's an interesting one, all right. And it probably won't ever be retooled - even if you don't like it, you'll agree that the Luke ANH is a quality product.
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the MR sabers are great either way.. easy to convert, and already come with sound. cant go wrong ;)
MTFBWY
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The graflex. It only seems to work against blasters and against curved hilts. :-\
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If I had to choose. I would go with a real graflex, or build something similar out of aluminum. I would probably build something similar. Its not as expensive and it doesn't have to be as thick. I don't like 1.5" saber. Much to big for me. I like 1.375 myself. Just cut and s curve and throw a couple replica thumb screws and your done. MR looks grossly oversized.
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Vintage G not replica. Battered and bruised Vintage always over a replica.
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Vintage G not replica. Battered and bruised Vintage always over a replica.
Agreed. I do still like both though. Just vintage moreso :)
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If I had to choose. I would go with a real graflex, or build something similar out of aluminum. I would probably build something similar. Its not as expensive and it doesn't have to be as thick. I don't like 1.5" saber. Much to big for me. I like 1.375 myself. Just cut and s curve and throw a couple replica thumb screws and your done. MR looks grossly oversized.
Mr looks pretty accurate to me. On the right is my Graflex, left the Master replica. I was doing a sound comparison video, but you can see they are the same size. And in all honesty, for the price of a master replica, you get a fairly decent hilt WITH a soundboard for 100 bucks ish. spend some more cash on it, and you can get a brighter blade thats removable and you can dual a bit with it, sounds like a bragain to me. Granted they aren't even in the same league as a Graflex, price or quality wise, so it's not really a fair comparison. I love my graflex 10x times more though.
Shane
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I'd like both a graflex and a Luke ANH.
Just me i guess, but i like collecting different versions of an object to compare them.
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I think every saber is beautiful in there own way. They each bring something to the table. Even if its not the amazing works of art that madcow can bring to life. Each saber ether hand made or production run becomes something unique in the hands of its new owner. Every little scratch or ding, every smudge or polished peace makes the saber one of a kind. Something the owner loves or complains about openly. But there is a place for every saber in someones collection. So do i think the Luke ANH saber Graflex or otherwise is a worthy saber. Yes, yes i do.
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If there is one thing that I like and I care for : it is accuracy.
So if one day I decide to build a Luke Skywalker ANH or ESB (probably an ESB since I really like this episode), I think I would rather go for a vintage Graflex as my first choice. Then for the conversion, one thing sure is that I would try to buy one of Master Yoda's beautiful crystal core chassis. ^___^
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Love it!!!! +1 for the Graflex. :-)