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Jedi Temple => Inactive / Removed Manufacturers => FX-SABERS Archives => Goodman => Topic started by: Goodman on November 08, 2009, 02:35:29 PM
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I didn't intend to post this yet, but got swamped with requests for more info after people saw my YouTube videos last night...
Larbel Qui Gon Jin saber
Crystal Focusv4.2
LedEngin 10W RGGB (Green blade, 60ms blue clash flash)
powerXtender
7.2V Li-ion
1.3mm microchargeport
Rumble motor wired to main LED to match the flickering/pulsing effect
I built this saber last month. At first it had a Tri-R GGW, but then I gutted it saber and started over, adding a rumble motor, too.
Many pics on my PB account: http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f285/AKD001/Larbel%20Qui%20Gon%20CF4/
But here are a few shots of the saber in his new shoes:
To add the motor, I extended the channel in the main body. You can see the original depth, then the addition.
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By the way, here is a shot of the original groove on the stock Larbel.
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After that, I ditched the shoddy heatsink setup I used originally and turned down a new TCSS adapter. I needed the heatsink's ability to screw in, because the original setup had twisted wire issues. MUCH better solution the second time around ;) The original emitter was widened to 1" at the face, and 1.18" at the throat to hold the TCSS optic/heatsink adapter.
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The 2.5mm's hole was milled square to fit the new 1.3mm I bought (thanks Eastern57 for the tip). I opted for the taller model because I wanted it to fit snugly against the inner wall of the body, which the shorty ones would not do. This way it doesn't rattle and doesn't require any glue to stay firmly in place, yet it can be moved to the side easily to access the SD card as needed.
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The speaker mount sits snugly against the wall with the ArkLight Arsenal symbol, and is made to hold the speaker 2mm above the charge port's base so they don't actually rub. The original Larbel pommel threads down and snugly butts up against the mount. I had never drilled it because I didn't want to mar the original. 'Turns out you don't need soundholes in this saber, so I'm happy with the decision to keep it stock...
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I got a new roll of 28ga wire and used a new CFv4.2. For this redone saber, I wanted to use wire that was all the same color wherever possible, to dissuade someone from trying to tamper with my work. I also *tried* to route the wires neatly (Madcow you're my hero). The powerXtender is attached to the CF using doublestick tape, trimmed so that its height doesn't hit the inner wall (btw, the wall has a layer of electric tape on it for added protection)
Layout:
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And wiring:
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I didn't solder the switches at that point because the way the saber is set up, there is ZERO slack in the wires. The saber is basically "sewn in". To mount the motor, I first used tweezers to glue it in its proper place:
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Then set the board in its place, and afterwards soldered those two leads to the main LED pad. Again, basically zero slack to work with, but tweezers and toes help the process go smoothly:
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Then, from the emitter side, I threaded in the four switch wires. Brass tube helps hide the wires and keep a "clean" look:
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That little slack will be tidy once they're wired to the LED...you can also see the CF access space here:
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Next up, sewing the LED into place. Tough because the LedEngins can't be mounted to the heatsink or else they won't solder, so you need four hands: hold the LED, position the wire, position the solder, position the iron. Toes ;)
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Then, on goes the head. Anti-twist three times, thread four times. No tangling and no risky tension on the leads:
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The neat thing about the way the entire saber is engineered is that the silver shroud can be completely removed free from the saber. The black body/emitter contains all of the parts. The one other Larbel Qui Gon CF I've seen had the port and speaker mounted in the pommel, it it had lots of twisting wire slack in it. Not mine.
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Lastly, about that LedEngin 10W RGGB... The two Greens are in series off the main pad, obviously. Right now, I set the blue on clash, with a very short clash time (~60 miliseconds). This makes for a nice effect, because it is so quick, it seems like my almost registers the brightness first, instead of the actual color.
WATCH THE VIDEO ;)
Now get out there and innovate, people!
-John :)
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Good lord man!
"Somebody get the ambulance! Caden fainted!" :D :D
Wow... too full of win. I think my head just explodified.
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*overload***** *BOOM*
I think my head exploded.....
WOWOWOW Man,... I'm speechless...
This...is........... it..
Who knew someone could fit all this in a Larbel! Goodman did!
Bravo man!
My project.... has taken a turn..
*goes to work on innovations...*
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I said it before: John unleashed himself! No more, no less! :D
Ahemm, John, that blue clash effect can be done only on LEDEngines? Not on TRI-Rebels? ::)
Now I must go to bed! At work, tomorrow!
Bye, bye.
P.S.: now I'm seriously concerned. I bet you'll be even more busy than Yoda himself! (SIGH!, SOB!) :D
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Ha ha! That thing is B E A Uuutiful! I adore that saber. Great job.
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You have REALLY outdone yourself. I am in shock...
Totally speechless :o :o :o
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Roll up your pants and grab your rubbers... flood coming, Noah... ;)
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Here we go, I found a good smiley for this saber and your K3GR-1
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Beautiful John! Out of curiosity, did you have to resistor that rumble motor?
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WAY too many awesome sabers have been made in the past few days!
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Excellent job!
I'll say it again,, the Q is one of my favorite sabers. I'd love to redo mine (less the vibrator motor).
I had the same issues in mine with twisted wires. I totally redid the way mine goes together, now no twisted anything. Perfect!
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The flash effect is amazing. Nice job.
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:o :o :D :D
wow that saber's insane!!Great job!!
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wow!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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WOW!m I especially love the blue flash
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Wow... with at CF4 to boot!!!
Great job on the Larbel convert!!!! :) I'm assuming it has more space than a Larbel O to fit the CF...
Great video too.... felt like I'm in a first person video game... clanging my sabers together :)
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Wow... ...
...I mean...that's just plain amazing. :o
I like the different colored clash-flash. Total win. 8)
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Hi, John. ;D
I have some e-mail server issues today (11/12/2009) and I can't download e-mails from you (and from none other, obviously! ;D). I tried to send you a PM, but your box is full. I don't know in which way can I communicate with you, besides this one!? All forgive me for my OT, please. :-[
Have you sent any e-mail?
Could you answer me via PM? Thanks
Bye
Salvatore
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Thanks...just thanks...
Now I have to go back to work and try to do my job after my eyes just melted in my sockets, due to overexposure to pure awesomeness!
I think I had watched a video yours where the blue clash was significantly longer and it looked horrible to me, but the short response of the blue clash on this thing is just awesome to watch.
I see you have a few lightsabers that clash now. I would love to see anyone post a vid of two clash capable sabers duking it out at night. The whole clash effect seems so realistic that it almost feels like I am watching the movie, but the movie suddenly became real!
I had been thinking about getting saving up to get a crystal focus and put in a request to have a lightsaber built with the clash effect, (this would cause me to not be able to afford any other lightsabers for probably a good year) after watching this video my mind is made up. I am definetly going to start planning on getting a cf (if I can everyone knows they are near impossible to get) and save up all my funds.
Thank you for posting this video it feels like this hobby is about to reach a whole new level.
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I had only seen Nova's clash in white! ::) I love the blue for the clash! ;D
I agree with Wookiecrisp, there are far too many amazing sabers coming out right now! Im in overload! :D
Great job Goodman!
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fantastic work
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That really does have a near movie quality look with the flash. Very nice.
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Ack, I cannot believe I didn't post here! John, this is a beautiful piece of work! Lovin' the clash flash! LEDEngins FTW :D
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Salvatore, as I told you, your update email is once a week, every Thursday night. ;)
Thanks everyone. I'll be posting a comparison video of two LedEngin 10W RGGB sabers , one set up to have a green blade with blue clash, and the other to have a green blade with red clash.
With a larger batt pack I can also link the Blue and Red dice to clash at the same time, resulting in a R+G+G+B clash (brighter, whitish color). That's for later though. I'd need to find another CF...
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Amazing John, simply amazing. I'm not sure which is harder, you converting a Larbel Qui, or the customer anxiously waiting to get it!
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Wow - most impressive my friend, most impressive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Taberah ;D
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John, let me hire you a limo next time I come to LA and we can parade that saber around in style! ;D
Dude, you are so my hero...that is so far your penultimate build...I am not sure what you can do to top this one...but I can't wait to see!
Great job man....GREAT job!
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Sorry if this thread is a bit old, but wow, that saber is amazing! I can't believe you were able to stuff the CF underneath the Larbel's full-depth grips. I've been considering a LedEngin RGGB myself, hoping that the R+B flash would end up more white than purple, but honestly, the blue by itself looks more like a movie effect than white does.
Again, amazing job and congratulations!
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That is a whole new level of cool 8) Very Sweet build, I love the clash N' Flash, Very Awesome indeed!!!
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Sorry Caine, that saber is now in my humble hands. If I ever come to L.A. though, we can swing it around and have fun with it. Like you, I love to spin and use them for some use. I don't have any dueling partners, so I just spin and pretend I am a trained Jedi.
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Man oh man this beauty is loud and the Blue lighning clash fashes are awsome.
I think this is the most perfect Qui Gon Jinn lightsaber ever mde.
Is it for sell?
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Sorry Darth Matth, this baby was sold to me. Well, that's why Goodman made it anyways. Love these Larbels.
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You lucky xxx.
I'm not talking to you anymore. :D :D :D
Man it can't get any better than this.
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The next time you're in LA, djobitwan7, I'll happily be your sparring partner ;)
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Sorry Caine, that saber is now in my humble hands. If I ever come to L.A. though, we can swing it around and have fun with it. Like you, I love to spin and use them for some use. I don't have any dueling partners, so I just spin and pretend I am a trained Jedi.
Well congrats on owning one of the BEST Qui-Gon's out there! ;D
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Well, I had to own something someone liked a lot. The emitter seems a bit small for my bought blades to slide in, so I was gonna see if Goodman could arrange for that to be done. Other than seeing how it would feel like spinning, I've been showing it off at work. They all love it. When that's done, I planned on doing a review (would be my first probably).
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:o ....... that saber is...... is.....
***Passes out onto the keyboard*** ......aldfldsafgnsdalfjsdafoashdgnasdlfgndsafjshdgflhdslafnlasdhfo;........................
Sorry I passed out on my key board....... WHAT A SABER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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:o ....... that saber is...... is.....
***Passes out onto the keyboard*** ......aldfldsafgnsdalfjsdafoashdgnasdlfgndsafjshdgflhdslafnlasdhfo;........................
Sorry I passed out on my key board....... WHAT A SABER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahahaha,yeah, what he said. ;D ;D ;D