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Title: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on October 13, 2017, 10:26:33 AM
Wireless (Bluetooth)
for Plecter R.I.C.E. and Proffieboard/TeensySaber
sound boards
HOW-TO!

People keep asking questions about how to use Bluetooth RICE with PC RICE programm, what bluetooth module to use, what USB Bluetooth dongle to use....
I'm making all my sabers now with the Bluetooth RICE feature using a Bluetooth module, because it completely replaces the need in a RICE cable we used to, you can now adjust all your RICE enabled sound board (Crystal Focus, Petit Crouton, Prizm, Crystal Shard, Pico Crumble) settings wirelessly over Bluetooth from your PC, Android or iPhone mobile phones (I'm currently working on a single iPhone and Android app to control all Plecter Labs RICE enabled sound boards over Bluetooth.
FSC-BT909, FSC-BT630, JDY-16 modules work with iPhones because they support 4.0 BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) technology, all Apple devices work only with Bluetooth 4.0+).

Recently I found new bluetooth modules from Feasycom manufacturer that now are my favorite. All other previous modules were not 100% perfect in terms of functionality and availability, so from now I will only recommend to use FSC-BT630 and FSC-BT909 bluetooth modules for all Plecter RICE and Proffieboard or TeensySaber builds and to use with my upcoming "ForceSync" mobile app.

So here is a small tutorial for you guys, hope there will be more sabers with this awesome feature in the community! ;)


Links for parts (FSC-BT630 and FSC-BT909 modules, +4db and +18db signal power):

BEST MODULES I USED SO FAR!

- FSC-BT630 module (only BLE): FSC-BT630 at KR-sabers (UK) (https://thesaberarmory.com/product/fsc-bt630-bluetooth-module/) / FSC-BT630 at TCSS (USA) (https://www.thecustomsabershop.com/Bluetooth-Module-1-P1527.aspx)
- FSC-BT909 module (Dual-Mode SPP+BLE): FSC-BT909 at KR-sabers (UK) (https://thesaberarmory.com/product/fsc-bt909-bluetooth-module/) / FSC-BT909 at TCSS (USA) (https://www.thecustomsabershop.com/Bluetooth-Module-2-P1526.aspx)
- iOS smartphone app for Bluetooth R.I.C.E. Remote Control: ForceSync app (https://itunes.apple.com/ru/app/forcesync/id1439683611?l=en&mt=8)
- Android smartphone app for Bluetooth R.I.C.E. Remote Control: in development
- can be programmed (set Name and Passcode) via bluetooth connection with official Feasycom app - FeasyBlue (search it in App Store and Google Play)
- USB-to-TTL converter:
  - Amazon.com: DSD TECH TTL to USB Converter with CP2102 Chip Works for Windows (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B628LY8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
  - PL2303HX USB To RS232 TTL Auto Converter Module Converter Adapter For arduino (https://www.ebay.com/itm/PL2303HX-USB-To-RS232-TTL-Auto-Converter-Module-Converter-Adapter-For-arduino/180953299346?hash=item2a21a83992%3Ag%3Ao5oAAOSwhWFaUKqH&_sacat=0&_nkw=USB+to+TTL+converter&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC0.A0.H0.XUSB+to+TTL+converter.TRS0)
  - CP2102 USB 2.0 to TTL UART Module 6Pin Serial Converter STC Replace FT232 Module (https://www.ebay.com/itm/CP2102-USB-2-0-to-TTL-UART-Module-6Pin-Serial-Converter-STC-Replace-FT232-Module/381374541932?epid=1479714412&hash=item58cbb1b06c%3Ag%3ABxQAAOSwQiRUm-ND&_sacat=0&_nkw=USB+to+TTL+converter&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC0.A0.H0.XUSB+to+TTL+converter.TRS0)
  - USB To RS232 TTL UART PL2303HX Auto Converter USB to COM Cable Adapter Module (https://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-To-RS232-TTL-UART-PL2303HX-Auto-Converter-USB-to-COM-Cable-Adapter-Module/201539573206?hash=item2eecb1d5d6%3Ag%3AsUoAAOSwyXVbaQjC&_sacat=0&_nkw=USB+to+TTL+converter&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC0.A0.H0.XUSB+to+TTL+converter.TRS0)
- R.I.C.E. cable: TCSS R.I.C.E. cable (http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/USB-to-35mm-RICE-cable-P656.aspx)
- Serial Terminal Software: YAT download | SourceForge.net (https://sourceforge.net/projects/y-a-terminal/)

- full bluetooth wiring and setup instructions for Proffieboard are in this PDF manual: ProffieBoard_TeensySaber User Manual_v1.5_12.pdf - Google Drive (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1HD9iM3puYHBFL8VuIkGZkQ3zxQdQp7NM)

NOTE! Some TCSS R.I.C.E. cables are made with CP2102 chips, some with PL2303, and if your cable is not recognized by computer with CP2102 driver then you have to download and install an old version 3.3.2.105 (from year 2008-2009) of Prolific driver. How to do this described here: Fake PL2303 - how to install on Windows 8.1 - BartB (http://wp.brodzinski.net/hardwa…/fake-pl2303-how-to-install/)


(https://i.imgur.com/8A7UCyP.png) (https://i.imgur.com/0WLQAiA.png)


iOS: download here - ForceSync app on App Store (https://itunes.apple.com/ru/app/forcesync/id1439683611?l=en&mt=8)
Android: download here - ForceSync app on Google Play (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.forcesync.saber.forcesync.lite)


Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: crain300 on October 13, 2017, 11:15:55 AM
i very new to all this will it work with a prizm 5 ?
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on October 13, 2017, 11:29:36 AM
i very new to all this will it work with a prizm 5 ?
Yes, of course, since Prizm 5 has RICE
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on October 21, 2017, 05:58:57 PM
HM-13 Configuration and Wiring tutorial added!
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: BEN KENOBI on October 22, 2017, 05:41:14 AM
can you give us the link for the module?
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on October 22, 2017, 05:49:49 AM
can you give us the link for the module?
Updated the "Configuration and Wiring Tutorial" and added links.
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on November 11, 2017, 10:49:06 AM
These tutorials are slightly updated regarding some feedback.
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: erv on November 11, 2017, 10:51:48 AM
just received my HM10 I will give a try asap
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: theta03 on December 01, 2017, 08:49:36 PM
Just curios to what particular switch is do you recommend for the Bluetooth module, since the only smd Slide switch I have come across is 50V 0.3 Amps, perhaps a link to what switch you recommend
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: erv on December 02, 2017, 12:00:57 AM
the BT modules uses current in the range of 40-50mA (ballpark) so your switch will be fine.
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on December 20, 2017, 12:24:57 PM
Just curios to what particular switch is do you recommend for the Bluetooth module, since the only smd Slide switch I have come across is 50V 0.3 Amps, perhaps a link to what switch you recommend
Yeah, as Erv said, these Bluetooth modules draw only up to 50mA max, so no worries about the latching switch current rating.
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on December 20, 2017, 12:27:47 PM
Updated HM-13 wiring diagram with Crystal Focus sound board, it turned out you can power the module directly from CF's on-board 3.3V regulator pad and it won't cause static speaker noise like it does on "direct drive" single cell sound boards.
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on December 20, 2017, 12:35:41 PM
just received my HM10 I will give a try asap
You need HM-13, not HM-10. HM-10 is only BLE so won't work with your PC RICE software unless you update them all with BLE profiles support. HM-13 is "Dual Mode" - it works with EDR and BLE, automatically switches between modes if needed.
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: erv on December 20, 2017, 12:50:39 PM
I have HM13
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on December 20, 2017, 01:06:48 PM
Great.
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: Ridire Fíréan on December 24, 2017, 12:13:34 PM
Hey @ShtokyD  !  Have you ever tried to wire both a 3.5mm jack and a HM-13 Bluetooth Module into the same lightsaber?

The thought is that if both were installed that you'd be able to either plug in the 3.5mm male or communicate to the soundboard via bluetooth from your phone/computer depending on which was available at a given time.

I have room for both in my chassis but I'm wondering if you've ever tried both, and if so are there any reasons not to do both?  Perhaps feedback, interference, etc.?

Again, room inside the hilt is not a concern.  Rendundancy is not a concern.  I'm only wondering if there would be any adverse effects from wiring in both a 3.5mm jack the conventional way and a HM-13 Bluetooth Module powered by a CEX into a Crystal Focus v8.0?
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on December 25, 2017, 11:02:38 AM
Hey @ShtokyD  !  Have you ever tried to wire both a 3.5mm jack and a HM-13 Bluetooth Module into the same lightsaber?

The thought is that if both were installed that you'd be able to either plug in the 3.5mm male or communicate to the soundboard via bluetooth from your phone/computer depending on which was available at a given time.

I have room for both in my chassis but I'm wondering if you've ever tried both, and if so are there any reasons not to do both?  Perhaps feedback, interference, etc.?

Again, room inside the hilt is not a concern.  Rendundancy is not a concern.  I'm only wondering if there would be any adverse effects from wiring in both a 3.5mm jack the conventional way and a HM-13 Bluetooth Module powered by a CEX into a Crystal Focus v8.0?
Hi, yes, I wire both in sabers where I have room like in my KAM sabers. No problems with that. You just have to use only one way to configure RICE, not try to connect both bluetooth and 3.5mm RICE cable simultaniously, but shoudn't be a problem with it either... I use a small slide switch to turn ON and OFF HM-13 bluetooth module when I want to use bluetooth RICE.
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: Ridire Fíréan on December 25, 2017, 11:56:33 AM
Thank you @ShtokyD  !  I have a slide switch in my wiring diagram for mine so that it won't be broadcasting all the time! ;)  Glad to know I'm on the right track!

Thanks again, and Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on March 20, 2018, 12:37:50 PM
HM-13 module wiring tutorial updated!
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: Mielikki on June 27, 2018, 01:12:57 PM
HI! I was wondering if you've made any progress on the iPhone app you mentioned? I'd be very happy to buy it!!!
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: cvsickle on June 28, 2018, 09:55:02 AM
Just an FYI for everyone... I managed to tear the 3.3v pad (VCC) off of my HM-13. Totally frustrated. Then I noticed that the adjacent pad (right next to it) was listed in the HM-13 manual as NC or VCC. Turns out, I was able to wire my 3.3v directly to the pad next to the one I tore off and everything still works.

Of course, I only noticed this after I panic-ordered another 3 HM-13 boards from FastTech.

Thanks for the tutorial, BTW. Really helped me out.

Here are some links that may help others just finding this tutorial:

I didn't want to butcher my TCSS serial cable, so I got one of these from Amazon for $8: Amazon.com: DSD TECH TTL to USB Converter with CP2102 Chip Works for Windows (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B628LY8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

I got my HM-13 from FastTech: .90 HM-13 Dual Mode Bluetooth 4.0 BLE SPP LE Serial Port Module - compatible (https://www.fasttech.com/product/1827700-hm-13-dual-mode-bluetooth-4-0-ble-spp-le-serial)
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: cvsickle on July 01, 2018, 12:18:01 PM
I finally got my HM-13 working with my CF9 and I'm having a small issue. When I click in the windows RICE app to save the config, it shuts the board down and saves all the settings, but it never reboots the board. It keeps looping through what look like a series of initialization commands but it never actually does. If I cycle power to the board manually, it boots just fine and all the settings I changed are working properly.

Ever have any issues like this or know what I'm doing wrong?
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: erv on July 02, 2018, 03:14:25 AM
Early cf firmware has rare reboot issues after saving or isaber quit (happens only with certain SD cards which explains why we didn't catch that during development of the firmware). You can have yours updated and flashed for free, I will cover the postage of course
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: cvsickle on July 02, 2018, 03:43:23 AM
Early cf firmware has rare reboot issues after saving or isaber quit (happens only with certain SD cards which explains why we didn't catch that during development of the firmware). You can have yours updated and flashed for free, I will cover the postage of course

Thanks for the reply, Erv!

Problem is that I only noticed the problem after installing it into a saber, so I'd really prefer to not tear it apart if possible.

Can you let me know what brand of SD card you know didn't have this issue? I'd like to try getting a better one of those first.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: erv on July 02, 2018, 09:05:49 AM
Try with grey red sandisk
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: cvsickle on July 02, 2018, 02:34:07 PM
Try with grey red sandisk

Works like a charm now, my friend. Just grabbed a 16GB Sandisk Ultra (Gray and Red). Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: erv on July 03, 2018, 12:48:34 AM
Very cool and thank you for sharing your results. Glad to help I am very happy you got it to work
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on August 07, 2018, 06:27:18 AM
A new JDY-16 module tutorial added! This is my favorite BT module so far, make sure to check it out!
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: erv on August 07, 2018, 06:30:48 AM
thanks, I'll give it a try. I'm also inquiring for a BTLE objects for my dev env for RICE. However, I've used most of my dev time in Wifi rather than BTLE.

[addon] : obviously, it's totally possible to have a USB receiver made out of this to turn it into a univeral receiver that should work with stock RICE program (HW dependencies being pushed out of the OS). That's how my Omnisabers worked back in 2006 except that it was a MIDI device and not USB !
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on August 07, 2018, 06:44:43 AM
thanks, I'll give it a try. I'm also inquiring for a BTLE objects for my dev env for RICE. However, I've used most of my dev time in Wifi rather than BTLE.
Yeah, try it! It works much better and faster than HM-13 or HM-17 modules. Better make a new program with BLE support and other cool features (I emailed you about it) :)
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: erv on August 07, 2018, 06:45:14 AM
[addon] : obviously, it's totally possible to have a USB receiver made out of this to turn it into a univeral receiver that should work with stock RICE program (HW dependencies being pushed out of the OS). That's how my Omnisabers worked back in 2006 except that it was a MIDI device and not USB !
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on August 07, 2018, 09:51:49 AM
Just an FYI for everyone... I managed to tear the 3.3v pad (VCC) off of my HM-13. Totally frustrated. Then I noticed that the adjacent pad (right next to it) was listed in the HM-13 manual as NC or VCC. Turns out, I was able to wire my 3.3v directly to the pad next to the one I tore off and everything still works.

Of course, I only noticed this after I panic-ordered another 3 HM-13 boards from FastTech.

Thanks for the tutorial, BTW. Really helped me out.

Here are some links that may help others just finding this tutorial:

I didn't want to butcher my TCSS serial cable, so I got one of these from Amazon for $8: Amazon.com: DSD TECH TTL to USB Converter with CP2102 Chip Works for Windows (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B628LY8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

I got my HM-13 from FastTech: .90 HM-13 Dual Mode Bluetooth 4.0 BLE SPP LE Serial Port Module - compatible (https://www.fasttech.com/product/1827700-hm-13-dual-mode-bluetooth-4-0-ble-spp-le-serial)
Thanks! I added some more links to a ready-to-go USB-to-TTL converter in the original post.
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on August 08, 2018, 11:12:23 AM
IMPORTANT UPDATE! Just tested this module installed in the aluminum hilt (didn’t think about it earlier...) and signal strength dropped dramatically unfortunately, so it still works good in up to 2 meters (depending on how thick the hilt is and how the module is placed inside, there must be no ground wires around the module antenna) area around the saber but from 2 meter and up it looses connection. But I think it still works until I find a better module.
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: cvsickle on August 08, 2018, 11:16:35 AM
IMPORTANT UPDATE! Just tested this module installed in the aluminum hilt (didn’t think about it earlier...) and signal strength dropped dramatically unfortunately, so it still works good in 50cm area around the saber but from 1 meter and up it looses connection... well, that only means research continues...

That's not too bad though, is it? When I'm using the HM-13, I have to remove the part of the hilt that is covering it, or I can't get it to connect at all. Is that not everyone else's experience with the HM-13?
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on August 08, 2018, 11:21:52 AM
Usualy no, HM-13 has a more powerful antenna (+6db), so it worked fine in my sabers. JDY-16 is only 0db max. You can check if you programmed HM-13 to run at max power by AT commands.
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: EXAR KUN on August 08, 2018, 11:28:50 AM
IMPORTANT UPDATE! Just tested this module installed in the aluminum hilt (didn’t think about it earlier...) and signal strength dropped dramatically unfortunately, so it still works good in 50cm area around the saber but from 1 meter and up it looses connection... well, that only means research continues...

How about putting the antenna like the old cell phones had it where you pull it out a bit when you are ready to use it? Back in the day when we only had one free hand, we'd pull out the antenna with our teeth so we could get reception (for all you young'ins who didn't know)

Better yet, 'bunny ears' from an old t.v. would get the signal no problem! And when you're playing the saber you can hunt for underground water at the same time
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on August 09, 2018, 03:54:14 AM
IMPORTANT UPDATE! Just tested this module installed in the aluminum hilt (didn’t think about it earlier...) and signal strength dropped dramatically unfortunately, so it still works good in 50cm area around the saber but from 1 meter and up it looses connection... well, that only means research continues...

How about putting the antenna like the old cell phones had it where you pull it out a bit when you are ready to use it? Back in the day when we only had one free hand, we'd pull out the antenna with our teeth so we could get reception (for all you young'ins who didn't know)

Better yet, 'bunny ears' from an old t.v. would get the signal no problem! And when you're playing the saber you can hunt for underground water at the same time
Well, better just use a good bluetooth module :) I'm testing HM-11 BLE 4.0 module today (same size factor as HM-13), this module has all required features and +6dbm signal power, so I really hope this one will be the one. I will let you guys know...
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on August 09, 2018, 10:55:02 AM
No, unfortunately HM-11 didn't work... Next try gonna be a BLE 4.0 nRF51822-04AT module.
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: cvsickle on August 09, 2018, 11:05:56 AM
No, unfortunately HM-11 didn't work... Next try gonna be a BLE 4.0 nRF51822-04AT module.

Regardless, thank you for all the work you've been doing on this. You really improve this hobby with your innovation.
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on August 09, 2018, 12:47:31 PM
No, unfortunately HM-11 didn't work... Next try gonna be a BLE 4.0 nRF51822-04AT module.

Regardless, thank you for all the work you've been doing on this. You really improve this hobby with your innovation.
Well, JDY-16 still works in up to 2 meters, I just reinstalled it and moved further from ground wires and battery inside the chassis to get better antenna signal. Also a hole in the hilt will help a lot to improve the signal strength.
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: cvsickle on August 11, 2018, 04:40:19 PM
Usualy no, HM-13 has a more powerful antenna (+6db), so it worked fine in my sabers. JDY-16 is only 0db max. You can check if you programmed HM-13 to run at max power by AT commands.

I'm looking through the manual at the AT commands and I don't understand which one(s) you're referring to. Which command(s) should I be looking at for the HM-13?
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on August 12, 2018, 01:16:31 AM
All required commands are listed in my tutorial.
Update/// oh, I just noticed that datasheet says it has different power output values but gives no command to set it.... For HM-13 the signal power AT command is AT+POWE<value> (0, 1 or 2), but it doesn't work. Also set AT+MTUS1 command for higher data packet transmission and AT+HIGH1. And don't cover antenna with steel parts (steel is very bad for signal, even aluminum is better), also try to place the module far from Ground wires.
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: EXAR KUN on August 12, 2018, 05:05:12 AM
All required commands are listed in my tutorial.
Update/// oh, I just noticed that datasheet says it has different power output values but gives no command to set it.... The AT command is AT+POWE<value> (0, 1 or 2), but it doesn't work. Also set AT+MTUS1 command for higher data packet transmission and AT+HIGH1. And don't cover antenna with steel parts (steel is very bad for signal, even aluminum is better), also try to place the module far from Ground wires.

Great info and tips. Thank you. I will try this soon. Might put a hole in the hilt with a mesh screen over it for a hopefully clearer signal.
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on January 13, 2019, 04:18:30 PM
Added wiring diagrams for new bluetooth modules - FSC-BT630 and FSC-BT909! Best modules so far!
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: erv on January 14, 2019, 12:59:47 AM
Added wiring diagrams for new bluetooth modules - FSC-BT630 and FSC-BT909! Best modules so far!

very cool and thank you for your research !
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on January 14, 2019, 03:30:28 AM
Added wiring diagrams for new bluetooth modules - FSC-BT630 and FSC-BT909! Best modules so far!

very cool and thank you for your research !
You defenitely have to try them Erv!
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on April 11, 2019, 09:23:44 AM
Now pre-programmed and ready to go FSC-BT modules are available to purchase from KR-sabers (The Saber Armory)!
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: erv on April 11, 2019, 11:02:19 AM
cool ! I got a few earlier this month and they look awesome. I'm also starting to build my own BT "core" with a nordic MCU.
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on April 11, 2019, 11:56:21 AM
cool ! I got a few earlier this month and they look awesome. I'm also starting to build my own BT "core" with a nordic MCU.
Oh! Will it be integrated in the sound board or it will be also external board? Is it BLE? And I need to know how to communicate with it to make my app connect to it :)
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: Anvil on April 28, 2019, 06:37:11 PM
Is it recommended to use a switch (im assuming to prevent battery drain when you don't want to connect to it)? and also what sort of leds are being used in your wiring diagram? is a 470ohm resistor recommended no matter what color?
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on May 03, 2019, 03:06:05 AM
My "ForceSync" app for Bluetooth RICE Remote Control over ALL Plecter RICE sound boards and Proffieboad is now live and available for download for FREE in App Store for iOS mobile devices! This is a first Light version of this app, we are now working hard on the Pro version which will have FULL functionality! If you want to support us for making more awesome products for saber community please download, rate and write a review, thank you! ;)
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ChrisKrieg on May 25, 2019, 09:33:31 AM
Hi Shtoky,

I'm having some trouble setting up my BT630 for the first time. I connected it to my proffieboard as you showed in the diagram (minus the switch and LEDs) and FeasyBlue app can now see it broadcasting. I just need some instruction on how to start communication. I'm using Android and I know that the ForceSync app is a ways off, but just setting up bluetooth can help me change settings with other tools in the mean time.

Do you have any tips?
Thanks
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ishtob on July 10, 2019, 05:32:38 AM
about to do this on a feasycom bt630, a bit concerned about the input voltage as I have a Crystal focus with the single cell mod. Wouldn't this potentially fry the BT630 since a single cell unregulated can be up to 4.3v while the BT630 is rated for 3.6v max?
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on July 20, 2019, 05:48:40 AM
Hi Shtoky,

I'm having some trouble setting up my BT630 for the first time. I connected it to my proffieboard as you showed in the diagram (minus the switch and LEDs) and FeasyBlue app can now see it broadcasting. I just need some instruction on how to start communication. I'm using Android and I know that the ForceSync app is a ways off, but just setting up bluetooth can help me change settings with other tools in the mean time.

Do you have any tips?
Thanks
BT630 module doesn't have any settings to change, it works right away.
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on July 20, 2019, 05:50:11 AM
about to do this on a feasycom bt630, a bit concerned about the input voltage as I have a Crystal focus with the single cell mod. Wouldn't this potentially fry the BT630 since a single cell unregulated can be up to 4.3v while the BT630 is rated for 3.6v max?
Use the wiring diagram please. BT630 and BT909 modules must be powered by a 3.3V supply. All Plecter and ProffieBoard have a 3.3V pad for that.
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: Darth Platypus on September 19, 2019, 09:59:18 AM
So the FSC-BT630 just works out of the box from tcss? I wire it up to the proffie and I'm good to go? Does anything need to be done on the proffie? Or do i still need to follow the instructions for the ble nano2 on the proffie site?
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on September 27, 2019, 08:38:51 AM
So the FSC-BT630 just works out of the box from tcss? I wire it up to the proffie and I'm good to go? Does anything need to be done on the proffie? Or do i still need to follow the instructions for the ble nano2 on the proffie site?
Please follow the Bluetooth wiring instructions in the PDF Proffieboard user manual: ProffieBoard_TeensySaber User Manual_v1.5_12.pdf - Google Drive (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1HD9iM3puYHBFL8VuIkGZkQ3zxQdQp7NM)
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: Darth Platypus on October 08, 2019, 07:28:44 PM
Ok so the manual says to get the official app and set the bluetooth name and passcode but how do you do that? The app gives you a terminal but no instructions on what to send to the module. I habe the bt630

Thanks
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on October 09, 2019, 03:06:49 AM
Ok so the manual says to get the official app and set the bluetooth name and passcode but how do you do that? The app gives you a terminal but no instructions on what to send to the module. I habe the bt630

Thanks
Commands instructions are on the Plecter boards instructions image (see in the original post here). Also watch this video: CFX and Proffieboard bluetooth control with ForceSync app: HOW-TO - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y6eHoYVwrs&t=1124s)
Title: Re: Wireless (Bluetooth) control for sound boards - HOW-TO!
Post by: ShtokyD on January 21, 2021, 09:38:06 AM
Updates! We finally released the app for Android, give it a try! ;)
PRO version for iOS is also coming to the App Store very soon!