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Offline Yoda

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Component Blade and Non Component blade comparisons.
« on: May 09, 2007, 01:42:50 AM »
Here you can post the pictures of your "personal opinions and findings" on you you feel
the component blades look compared to the non component blades.

Component Blades are:
Blades using inner component technologhy such as LED strips or EL wire.
Current MFG: Master Replicas, Park Sabers, Hyperdyne.

Non Components Blades are:
Blades using Bottom lit in hilt LED technology such as Luxeon LEDs.
Current MFG: Ultrasabers, Customsabershop, Plecter Labs.

Other Conversion specialists are available for installing and assembling the above systems.
ex: FX-SABERS, Ramdomsabers, RLSA and others...

PLEASE BE AWARE!

Harsh Arguments will not be tolerated and violating or vulgar threads will be removed immediately.
(speculative or percieved backhanded comments are not considered vulgar so please remain professional)

Please state your opinions and be specific and detailed.
Take acceptable pictures that allow the differences to be shown.
Allow the pictures to speak for them selves as well as the products performance.

It is not recommended that VENDORS come in here to "defend" their products but rather
to use it as a means of finding the information they need to improve them.

MTFBWY
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Here is the First Picture we will use to start this off.

It is a comparison between the:
Hyperblade- fully loaded V2 version using 11.1volt Li-ION battery.

MR Anakin ROTS- bone stock MR on Energizer Lithiums. 4.5volt

Graflex FX-SABER- 3watt Blue Luxeon LED with Corbin film on Energizer Lithiums. 4.5 volt





Once the new Ultra boards are out, we can get a new and accurate comparison between
the 5watt with Ultra Optical Film as well...




« Last Edit: May 09, 2007, 07:18:49 PM by Yoda »


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Re: Component Blade and Non Component blade comparisons.
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2007, 02:02:01 AM »
That hyper does look good, but so does the 3w luxeon

Price vs Performance is what it comes down to

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Re: Component Blade and Non Component blade comparisons.
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2007, 02:10:02 AM »

Click image for the full-sized picture, 2272x1704 pixel (181 kB).

Above:
FX-Sabers Graflex IV with Guardian Blue Luxeon III and Corbin Film.
Fresh Energizer E2 Advanced.

Below:
MR ForceFX Obi-Wan ROTS.
Fresh Energizer E2 Advanced.

Special tweak of the camera:
Exposure bias value set to -2.00 eV (minus 2) to eliminate overexposure.


Opinion:
Luxeon III produces a seamless blade illumination, way brighter at the emitter than stock MR, but tends to dim toward the tip.
Stock MR, in overall, is darker than Lux III, and produces (as can be seen in the picture as well) dark spots (blots).
« Last Edit: May 09, 2007, 02:26:21 AM by C-3PO »
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Re: Component Blade and Non Component blade comparisons.
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2007, 02:57:53 AM »
Thank you for the picts 3PO  that's a good color comparison as well with out them being overly washed out.

Now for...

YODA's Official statement on all the various types of Lightsaber comparisons.


Since it's conception and it's purpose...
To provide a unique cooperative and friendly environment for all Lightsaber Enthusiasts World Wide.
and not to be another trash talking forum full of needless B.S.
FX-SABERS has always been where people can get as much info as is available about all the various recommended Lightsabers replicators from around the world.
Everyone is allowed to show their stuff if approved for mechanical and electrical functionality, proper and through safe assembly.

All are reviewed equally and fairly and it will continue to go on that way as we demand a high quality form those who we endorse by recommendation.


I have discussed this situation with Sidious to decide how to best handle it but still allow for people to still give their opinions and post pictures and reviews but to more effectively distinguish the two types of blades and as how they are different and meet different needs for various collectors.
(though really... one must simply have them all) 8)


We have made sure to go through and remove all the arguments and derogatory threads in all respective categories.
This means: no hyper comments in the lux threads and no lux comments in the hyper threads.

That's what this topic is for and where people will be redirected for giving such comparisons or opinions.

The above recommendations and rules for both consumers and vendors to abide by will be monitored

All comparisons will now be able to be contained to this one spot and it will be monitored for content so it will remain a picture comparison thread and review opinions etc...

Any threads found to be argumentative regardless of author will be removed so the products can speak for them selves.

It will also allow for product development with out unwanted intervention in everyones individual catagories.

I personally don't take sides and have both types of blades.
Component and non Component.
I did just take apart my last EL though :D


On the note of product development and patents...
we won't allow it to be discussed at all unless it actually goes to court and becomes public "domain" (just like with LFL)

I've made my recommendations to Vendors privately about these issues... that's where it is really best kept so the public doesn't react with out all the facts that would be officially determined in component breakdown and verified in a court of law.
Anything else is just speculation and is like trying to put the fire out with gas...


I hope this will be suitable for everyone and actually allow everyone to move forward with out feeling their topics are being intervened with by other vendors or their affiliates etc...

MTFBWY
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Re: Component Blade and Non Component blade comparisons.
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2007, 03:21:48 AM »
And thus, to better serve the purpose stated in Yoda's official statement, I herewith make this topic sticky.  ;)
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Re: Component Blade and Non Component blade comparisons.
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2007, 05:41:14 AM »
WOW Yoda nice comparison pics and yours too 3PO.

I am always amazed at how bright the Hyperdyne system is.  It looks very movie accurate.  But the lux III with corbin looks great too.  I wouldn't have thought that it would be that close to the Hyper model. 

Can't wait to see some comparative pics of the Lux v vs Hyperdyne.  For me though the price is controlling, I just can't spend that much on a Hyperdyne even though it does look specatacular. 

Can a saber be too bright.  Where do we get to the point of not being able to enjoy looking at it without sunglasses.  The quest for brightness will have to stop somewhere.

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Re: Component Blade and Non Component blade comparisons.
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2007, 06:06:57 AM »
I do agree there is a fine line between the quest for brightness and it being too bright. As much as I like the Hyperdyne products, Luxeons w/ Ultra's fiber optic blades and stock MR's are bright enough for me. It's all about choosing what is best for you and your needs and Luxeons suit me fine.

However, if you want the brightest freaking thing in the neighborhood, then Hyperdyne is where it's at.

As it has been said too many times to count now, it's all about your needs and what suits them best vs. your budget and that's the bottom line.

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Re: Component Blade and Non Component blade comparisons.
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2007, 03:24:45 PM »
Does anybody have a lux V (preferably with Ultra's fiber optic blade) and a hyperblade of the same color that that can take a photo of together for comparison?  I think we all would appreciate it.  If nobody has that then it would be really cool if ultra and hyper could meet up at C4 and take pictures comparing their blades.  (yellow vs yellow, red vs red, green vs green and blue vs blue)

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Re: Component Blade and Non Component blade comparisons.
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2007, 11:28:06 PM »
Does anybody have a lux V (preferably with Ultra's fiber optic blade) and a hyperblade of the same color that that can take a photo of together for comparison?  I think we all would appreciate it.  If nobody has that then it would be really cool if ultra and hyper could meet up at C4 and take pictures comparing their blades.  (yellow vs yellow, red vs red, green vs green and blue vs blue)

That would be..... so not happening.... I think.
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Re: Component Blade and Non Component blade comparisons.
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2007, 12:25:00 PM »
Does anybody have a lux V (preferably with Ultra's fiber optic blade) and a hyperblade of the same color that that can take a photo of together for comparison?  I think we all would appreciate it.  If nobody has that then it would be really cool if ultra and hyper could meet up at C4 and take pictures comparing their blades.  (yellow vs yellow, red vs red, green vs green and blue vs blue)

Or, if you have a Hyperdyne & stock MR, take photo w/ them side-by-side, and then if anyone else has a Lux V & stock MR, take photo w/ them side-by-side.  Then if we had those 2 pics, we could tell difference.  Even adjust one so the stock MR's matched, that would show us Lux V against Hyperdyne.

OR, someone frame JUST their Lux V blade, shoot it, post it, and post how far away you were from blade and what ISO, aperture, & shutter speed, then someone w/ a Hyperdyne frame a similar pic with same distance, ISO, aperture, & shutter speed.  That would give you some comparison.

Of course, Hyperdyne seems pretty expensive and less durable, so I'd still stick with Lux V, but it'd be fun to know.

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Re: Component Blade and Non Component blade comparisons.
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2007, 07:20:01 PM »
Here is the First Picture we will use to start this off.

Yoda, did you take that picture, or do you know who did?  Can you vouch for the fact that the Hyperdyne was properly wired & with properly charged batteries and no one messed with the pic in any way?

Because there's a real odd-ness when comparing this pic to ones taken by Jedibum in that other thread.  It would lead one to think that a Lux V is dimmer than an MR, which seems ridiculous.  Maybe I'll post more details on this in that other thread.

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Re: Component Blade and Non Component blade comparisons.
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2007, 08:59:20 PM »
Here is the First Picture we will use to start this off.
Because there's a real odd-ness when comparing this pic to ones taken by Jedibum in that other thread. 

Ahhh, I think it may make sense now, if you read Mojo's post & my 2 responses...I think the pic in Yoda's post here in this "Component blade" thread is overexposed.  See:
http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=7528.msg123130#msg123130
« Last Edit: June 05, 2007, 09:01:25 PM by jasond22 »

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Re: Component Blade and Non Component blade comparisons.
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2008, 11:53:16 AM »
Good day,

I'll revive a long-dormant topic with yet another funneling reference to the ever-so-popular Makototsai-style component blade.

This time, my RGB string.  Yes, it was a while ago; yes, it looked rather cheap... but you'll see as far as brightness and potential, it can certainly hold it's own...

This is 70 5mm RGB LEDs, powered by 6v, I forgot how much current, I think it might be directly driven.  It's so short, because it was my first atempt at an LED string, and I didn't have the spacing down yet.

Here it is compared to 3 standard LED sabers:

 - Seoul P4 green @1.2A
 - Luxeon K2 royal blue @1.5A
 - Luxeon III red/orange @1.5A

Pics:







Judgement is left up to the observers.  I've never been totally satisfied with these results - because it was my first attempt, but looking back on it... I guess it didn't turn out all that bad... just a little short... and who am I to criticise that? ;)

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Re: Component Blade and Non Component blade comparisons.
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2008, 05:10:09 PM »
I think the green the string edges it out a bit, deffinatly beat the blue ang the red I would say second place and green last.

I do want to try one of these blades for durability tests.