Sorry for not responding ealier, the intrest in dueling/sparing does not apeal to those that have lightsabers. Or the posibility of getting very minor injuries such as welps, and very slight bruising. The other problem people appear to have is the damage that can happen to the led strip. the possiblity of some bodily contact does happen. This is free form dueling/sparing within control and respect for the opponet as possible. Pads are welcome to help reduce impact to cetain parts of the body this helps to make it more comfortable for those that prefer so. Thanks for the reply hope to hear from you in the near future. P.s. As far as the group still being around there doesn't appear to be. I guess this makes me one of the last still willing. I can be found on myspace as Gryphon/ grey Jedi, or on this sight as Bulldog.