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Title: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: STARKILLER on April 05, 2014, 03:05:55 PM
Ok TFU II Fans!

The time is upon us and I promised it would be this weekend that I put up the deposit thread ^-^. We spent last night and most of today doing some final number crunching and planning and we've reached what we think, are 4 great ways to get your Starkiller TFU-GM. It was asked if we would do discounts on two hilts purchased together, and while we'd love to say "yes" to that, it didn't really work numbers wise. However, we decided to do something that would work really well. We will have a small number of the spots available, set aside for Plecter Labs PRIZM build outs! :)) This means collectors can get into the run at a lower cost, and members looking for two sabers can get one with CF/CeX and one with PRIZM, or two with PRIZM and save money that way. It was the fairest way to offer a lower price on the run without going negative ourselves. There will be two finish packages: Trailer version with black anodized emitter pieces, and Concept art version with no emitter anodizing. You may pick your choice of Brown or Black leather for either package. Weathering will be an offered upgrade for either finish. A little info: The concept art shows a non anodized emitter section with a black wrap, and the trailer version shows black anodizing and a brown wrap, but we will let customers choose which they want on what package. What we will NOT do, is mix and match what anodized pieces you get. You either get it or you don't and once you choose and deposits are paid, it is FINAL.


Trailer version shots:

(https://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q169/AJFenderBender/VV%20R%20and%20D/SK%20II%20Concept/th_Capture42_zps4789cd21.jpg) (https://s136.photobucket.com/user/AJFenderBender/media/VV%20R%20and%20D/SK%20II%20Concept/Capture42_zps4789cd21.jpg.html)(https://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q169/AJFenderBender/VV%20R%20and%20D/SK%20II%20Concept/th_Capture33_zps6bbe14ae.jpg) (https://s136.photobucket.com/user/AJFenderBender/media/VV%20R%20and%20D/SK%20II%20Concept/Capture33_zps6bbe14ae.jpg.html)

Concept Version shots:

(https://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q169/AJFenderBender/VV%20R%20and%20D/SK%20II%20Concept/th_TFUII.jpg) (https://s136.photobucket.com/user/AJFenderBender/media/VV%20R%20and%20D/SK%20II%20Concept/TFUII.jpg.html)(https://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q169/AJFenderBender/VV%20R%20and%20D/SK%20II%20Concept/th_TFU2_2_zpse5aed510.jpg) (https://s136.photobucket.com/user/AJFenderBender/media/VV%20R%20and%20D/SK%20II%20Concept/TFU2_2_zpse5aed510.jpg.html)

 Payments will be broken into 3 parts: Initial deposit of 25%, once machining is complete the second payment of 25%, and once complete and ready to ship, the final balance plus shipping will need to be paid in full.


What will you get with your saber? With each saber purchased, you'll get everything you need to operate it out of the box: Saber, Blade (length choice of 30, 32, 34, 36 inches with round or bullet shine through tip), charger, kill key, and custom stand. That's a FULL package deal :o! RICE Cables, extra blades, weathering etc will be add ons. We will have a GREAT soundfont and boot package just like with our other runs.

Pricing:

This run is open WORLD WIDE, we will ONLY ship insured and shipping will be calculated at the time of completion.

Crystal Focus Pricing: $1600USD for CONCEPT/Non-anodized - $1650USD for TRAILER/Anodized - Deposit of $400[/size][/color]

Weathering is $45USD, RICE Cables $10

Our 'Goal' is to start shipping completed hilts by the end of the year. Hopefully this time frame works out, as we want EVERYONE to have their sabers in time for CVII! ^-^


FAQ:

Can I get such and such piece anodized but not this and that piece? No.

Can I get a 33 and 3/8th's inch blade? No.

I already have a blade and charger, can you deduct that from the price? No.

Can you put this and that font on instead of the package font? No, and each font will be pre-configured with set colors on each of the banks. Sorry, but the custom color configs on each font with flash colors etc like we offered on the last run, was just too much for me to handle

Will you be offering other soundboards? No.

Will you be offering empties? No.

Can I get purple leather? No....although LUMINARA would probably like that :))

Can I duel with this saber? Yes, all VV sabers are made Duel worthy, regardless of aspersions that our hilts are "Shelf Queens" ::)

Can I get a Trans-White blade instead? If you prefer Trans-White we will substitute it for $5USD upgrade.

Can I choose my hilt number? No. Hilt numbering is assigned at random.

If I run into financial difficulties, can I sell my spot? Yes, but you need to contact us FIRST before putting the spot up for sale.

Crystal Focus Spots:

1. Lazi-D - CF/Trailer Anodized/brown leather/34 bullet shine thru/weathered Deposit Paid√
2. Mace Windu - CF/Trailer Anodized/brown leather/34 bullet shine thru/weathering Deposit Paid√
3. Mace Windu - CF/Trailer Anodized/brown leather/34 bullet shine thru/weathering Deposit Paid√
4. Onigiri34 -  CF / Concept version / Brown Leather Wrapped / 36" round tipped / weathered Deposit Paid√
5. Private - CF / Trailer Anodized/ Brown Leather / 32" Round /Weathered saber + one RICE cable Deposit Paid√
6. Private - CF / Trailer Anodized/ Brown Leather / 32" Round /Weathered saber Deposit Paid√
7. Private - CF / Trailer Anodized/ black leather / 36" bullet tip / weathered / RICE cable Deposit Paid√
8. Darth Smorgis - CF / Trailer Anodized/ Brown leather / 30" bullet tip Deposit Paid√
9. Private - CF/ Trailer Anodized/Weathered/Brown Leather Wrap/ 36" Blade with Lit Round Tip Deposit Paid√
10. PFockerchief - CF/Trailer Anodized/brown leather/36" bullet/weathered/AWESOME Deposit Paid√
11. GSXMatt - CF/Trailer Anodized/Brown leather/32" blade/round shine through tip/Clean Deposit Paid
12. Winks - CF/Trailer Anodized/ brown leather wrapped / CFv7 / weathered 10ft. / 32" round Deposit Paid√
13. msasin - CF/Trailer Anodized/Brown leather/36" round/clean Deposit Paid√
14. Private - CF/Trailer Anodized/Black leather/36" round shine through tip/Clean + one RICE cable[/color]√
15. Darth Thanos - CF Version/ Trailer Anodized/ Brown leather/ 32"/ Bullet shine through/ Clean Deposit Paid√
16. Darth Hulk - CF Version/Trailer Anodized/Black leather/34 round/weathered Deposit Paid√
17. DARTH MAUL - CF/Trailer Anodized/Brown leather/36" bullet/weathered Deposit Paid
18. PRIVATE - CF/Trailer Anodized/ Black leather/weathered heavy/Deposit Paid√
19. Lazi-D - CF/trailer/brown leather/34 bullet shine thru/weathered Deposit Paid√
20. Private - CF/Trailer Anodized√
21. R. Barski - CF/Concept/Black Leather//32" blade/weathered (med/heavy)√
22. R. Barski - CF/Concept/Black Leather//32" blade/weathered (med/heavy)√

When you post your interest, PM us as well as spots are first come first serve, and spots are only secured when deposit is paid. Also, you would need to state in your post/pm the following:

Example: CF Version/Concept/Black leather/34 round  OR    PRIZM/TRAILER/Brown leather/32 Bullet     etc.


Due to the sensitive nature of this run, and as things are finalized like the reveal core we will be holding onto the final design renders for a little bit. With the official art we had access to, and the changes made to the original design, plus a few surprises ;D, we are REALLY excited to share everything very soon :D. We will be posting all details in the thread soon so bear with us 8).
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Starwinder on April 05, 2014, 03:33:56 PM
I'm definitely in!  Been waiting for this one!   :))

For me: CF/Concept/black leather/36 round/weathering

PM and payment incoming...
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: STARKILLER on April 05, 2014, 03:39:54 PM
Awesome!

As a reminder, please PM for payment instructions BEFORE sending payments ;D
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: MACE WINDU on April 05, 2014, 04:02:07 PM
I'm in for a pair.

For me: CF/Trailer Anodized/brown leather/34 bullet shine thru/weathering x2

"We will have a GREAT soundfont and boot package just like with our other runs."

This probably will come as no surprise, but I'll be making a significant contribution to the font package.  Since 'Erv decided to release the awesome CF7 with TWELVE font banks I've got some work to do :P
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Sithari on April 05, 2014, 04:05:32 PM
I want one

For me: CF/Trailer/black leather/36 bullet/weathering x2
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: STARKILLER on April 05, 2014, 04:23:49 PM
I want one

For me: CF/Trailer/black leather/36 bullet/weathering x2

So..are you asking for 1 or two? Also, send me a PM with your choices as well and I can give you payment instructions.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Cad-Bayne on April 05, 2014, 04:40:25 PM
I'm in!!!!!

X1 / Concept saber / CFv7 / Black Leather wrap / 10 ft weathering  / 32" round tipped


X1 / Trailer Saber / CFv7 / Brown Leather Wrap /  10 ft weathering / 32" round tipped

( lightly weathered, tastfuly worn Black / Brown Leather Wrap... )


Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on April 05, 2014, 05:45:47 PM
The left or right is relative since it depends on how you look at it.  FTR, It is on the left if you are looking at it from the emitter side.  It is on the right if you are looking at the red button.  Just like it is in the artwork.

You know that at Vader's Vault we believe in functional boxes.  I do not want to give to much away at this point, but the box cannot be moved as it is integral to the design.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: shardan501 on April 05, 2014, 05:52:31 PM
ah, Two  CF / Trailer / Brown Leather / 32" Round /Weathered sabers + one RICE cable please :)
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: FitzJedi on April 05, 2014, 06:05:54 PM
I really want one of these. Off to find the deposit.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: STARKILLER on April 05, 2014, 06:27:24 PM
Just a request: Please put your FX user name in the PayPal notes when sending a deposit.  :))
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: shardan501 on April 05, 2014, 06:30:16 PM
so this is, like, your third run of these, yeah?
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Pfockerchief on April 05, 2014, 06:30:59 PM
Prizm/trailer/brown leather/36" bullet/weathered/AWESOME  8)
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: STARKILLER on April 05, 2014, 06:33:37 PM
There is no charge for "AWESOME", that comes standard 8) ;D

Welcome aboard!
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Rusty on April 05, 2014, 06:34:50 PM
so this is, like, your third run of these, yeah?
This is the first of the concept starkillers the first two were of the in game hilt. If I'm not mistaken of course
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: STARKILLER on April 05, 2014, 06:37:46 PM
Our first two "Starkiller" runs were of the in game hilt for the First game: The Force unleashed.

This saber is from the concept trailer for The Force Unleashed 2. Different saber, but really cool and is requested more than the in game hilt for TFU II.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Rusty on April 05, 2014, 06:49:12 PM
Our first two "Starkiller" runs were of the in game hilt for the First game: The Force unleashed.

This saber is from the concept trailer for The Force Unleashed 2. Different saber, but really cool and is requested more than the in game hilt for TFU II.

That's what I thought but I wasn't 100% sure thanks for clearing that up Starkiller ;P
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: STARKILLER on April 05, 2014, 08:32:44 PM
Since I must have forgotten to list it in the OP, and I got asked: The Crystal Focus version is expected to be '7' but will be whatever version is current at the time of machining completion (2nd deposit), and will INCLUDE the CeX board for perfect, regulated color mixing ^-^
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on April 06, 2014, 03:23:04 AM
I'm in .(MODI needs a brother,lol.)

1- CF/ Trailer Version with Black Anodizing/ Weathered /Brown Leather Wrap / 36" Blade with Lit- shine through, Round Tip


Please confirm payment instructions.

EDIT-  Payment sent.
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Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Cad-Bayne on April 06, 2014, 03:27:22 AM
Am I missing something? A big group is selecting the trailer version with black anodizing and I'm thinking I'm not seeing what I should, lol.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUKE SKYWALKER on April 06, 2014, 03:43:44 AM
I'm in!

CF / CONCEPT / black leather / 36" bullet tip / weathered / rice cable

Edit: deposit sent ;)
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: MACE WINDU on April 06, 2014, 06:42:55 AM
Am I missing something? A big group is selecting the trailer version with black anodizing and I'm thinking I'm not seeing what I should, lol.

The pictures posted show the differences.  There were a few concept art pieces released that show the hilts with no black anodized parts but with a black leather wrap.

Then the TUFII trailer videos that were released show more detail with black anodized parts and brown leather wrap on the hilts.  So its personal preference as to which you want.  It will look awesome no matter which is chosen.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Smorgis on April 06, 2014, 06:48:01 AM
Question...
Will choosing a Prizm build over the CF build effect any of the features in the Crystal Chamber?

If not, I am dowm for a Prizm / Trailer / Black leather / 30" bullet tip
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: STARKILLER on April 06, 2014, 06:51:36 AM
With PRIZM, you will lose the pulsing crystal chamber.....which I know you like ;) We haven't fleshed out the entirety of the crystal chamber lighting yet, but the CF is capable of having more blinkies and we do plan on using as much of them as possible.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Smorgis on April 06, 2014, 06:57:53 AM
PM Sent  :)
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: STARKILLER on April 06, 2014, 07:02:01 AM
All PM's replied!
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Pfockerchief on April 06, 2014, 07:45:06 AM
With PRIZM, you will lose the pulsing crystal chamber.....which I know you like ;) We haven't fleshed out the entirety of the crystal chamber lighting yet, but the CF is capable of having more blinkies and we do plan on using as much of them as possible.

PM sent
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: STARKILLER on April 06, 2014, 07:58:45 AM
Well....Crystal Focus seems to be the choice board 8). We've decided to make the last 5 spots 'either or'. Anyone wanting one of the last spots can choose PRIZM or Crystal Focus.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Clark Kent on April 06, 2014, 08:49:25 AM
poor Prizm, looks like no one wants to give it any love  :-*
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Vercify on April 06, 2014, 09:37:43 AM
Well....Crystal Focus seems to be the choice board 8). We've decided to make the last 5 spots 'either or'. Anyone wanting one of the last spots can choose PRIZM or Crystal Focus.

poor Prizm, looks like no one wants to give it any love  :-*

When you are shelling out this much on a saber it makes sense to go with the CF option. A $200 upgrade to a CF is a steal when you consider the price of the board, CEx and the install fees that are typical for a CF. Thats a $400+ value for $200. Its really like getting a CFv7 CEX color-changing upgrade + tuning and color configs for half off, all things considered. Also, the recent advances in tech have pushed the CFv7 quite a bit further away from a board like PRIZM. 12 fonts, combos, spins, stabs... there is just so much more to get out of a CF that it makes sense given the price!

Furthermore, this is a really exclusive hilt. I would only want the best electronics in mine. PRIZM is awesome, but I don't think I would pay $1400 for a saber with a color-changing PC when I could get top of the line sound with considerably more fonts/features for $200 more. Going with CF just makes the most sense with these numbers and with a run of this calibre, IMO. If I was able to get in then I would sock away $25 extra a month and that would pay for the CF trim level by the time final payment is due. I can see the affordability of saving $400 on a pair, but at the same time is $400 that hefty when you are committing to spending almost $3000 on a pair of these hilts?

Just food for thought :) I am sure that people will be more than happy with both board options when all is said and done. These are going to be really cool to see, congrats to everyone in so far and good luck to VV over the course of the run!
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Clark Kent on April 06, 2014, 11:53:24 AM
so would it be more logical to lower the price on the Prizm version then?
if saying what you are saying is true?

Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Forgetful Jedi Knight on April 06, 2014, 11:58:55 AM
The prices are what they are, and if a particular soundboard option "doesn't get any love", oh well. People want what they want, and apparently the best sound card option is what they want. That's usually how it works out. C:-)
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Justintmars on April 06, 2014, 12:04:07 PM
so would it be more logical to lower the price on the Prizm version then?
if saying what you are saying is true?
Prizm parts cost will be less and a little bit less wirring I assume.
200$ already seems like a steep discount, I am sure VV speant a lot of time calculating time and cost for the run.
I have only done a few but something like a crystal chamber takes some time and care.
There is no public pricing for prizm.
But of you take into consideration public pricing for pc3.
Pc3=$130

Cf7=178$
CeX=62$
240$-130$=110$ difference in sound board.

Yet they are discount the prizm version 200$!

That's pretty generous and more then likely they are doing that to allow people on a budget to buy two, like they said.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Vercify on April 06, 2014, 12:21:09 PM
The prices are what they are, and if a particular soundboard option "doesn't get any love", oh well. People want what they want, and apparently the best sound card option is what they want. That's usually how it works out. C:-)

Definitely agree with FJK here. Its not that the price of the PRIZM is unfair, please don't think thats what I was trying to say or imply in my other comment. I was highlighting that at the price-points VV specified for the run it makes sense (in my opinion) to go with the CF version, all things considered :) I wouldn't say that the PRIZM pricing is unfair. When it comes down to it the board you choose isn't what determines the price. Even if these hilts were offered as stunts they would be over $1000. You are paying for the machining, design, research, and quality of workmanship that comes with VV products. The board is dollars and cents in the end if you ask me; thus why you save the option to save a bit at the end with your choice!

But of you take into consideration public pricing for pc3.
Pc3=$130

Cf7=178$
CeX=62$
240$-130$=110$ difference in sound board.

Yet they are discount the prizm version 200$!

That's pretty generous and more then likely they are doing that to allow people on a budget to buy two, like they said.


If you include average install costs then you see a shortening of the gap in price difference.

CFv7 ($178) + CEx ($62) + parts ($10) + install fees ($150) = $400

PRIZM (~$130) + parts ($5) + install (~$100) = $235

$400-$235 = $165 difference in cost, and a $200 discount for PRIZM - you are still getting bonus money off.

Both boards are great and are fairly priced - there is no wrong option to choose here. I think that examining the math and accounting for the overall calibre of the hilts and the nature of VV runs sheds some pretty clear light on why people are choosing CF though. The trim level isn't the bulk of the cost here, its all the aspects I mentioned above. Again, this is just my opinion and how I went about weighing the options - your mileage may vary  8)



Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Clark Kent on April 06, 2014, 12:21:30 PM
yup, Justintmars, you did a good breakdown on the cost.

ok, Prizm is back at getting more love, LOL  :))
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Forgetful Jedi Knight on April 06, 2014, 12:38:32 PM
Definitely agree with FJK here. Its not that the price of the PRIZM is unfair, please don't think thats what I was trying to say or imply in my other comment. I was highlighting that at the price-points VV specified for the run it makes sense (in my opinion) to go with the CF version, all things considered :) I wouldn't say that the PRIZM pricing is unfair. When it comes down to it the board you choose isn't what determines the price. Even if these hilts were offered as stunts they would be over $1000. You are paying for the machining, design, research, and quality of workmanship that comes with VV products. The board is dollars and cents in the end if you ask me; thus why you save the option to save a bit at the end with your choice!

The difference in the boards and the difference in their pricing is one of the main factors in the pricing difference. With that said, the bottom line remains, people who tend to get in on "high end" runs, also tend to want the best sound card (and other) options available for that particular run. It's always been true of the runs I've seen and participated in. It's also a principle I "follow" when I do builds for myself or the rare commission.  ;)
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Pfockerchief on April 06, 2014, 06:26:30 PM
I was going for the Prizm at first to switch things up but then say DM post and response on the inability for a pulsing crystal chamber which is a requirement for me.  Thanks DM for the question and reminder.  I'm am intrigued by the Prizm and the ability to switch colors on the fly.  It will be in an upcoming saber of mine soon.  For now I'll stick with the power of the cf and CEX.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Smorgis on April 06, 2014, 07:10:59 PM
I was going for the Prizm at first to switch things up but then say DM post and response on the inability for a pulsing crystal chamber which is a requirement for me.  Thanks DM for the question and reminder.  I'm am intrigued by the Prizm and the ability to switch colors on the fly.  It will be in an upcoming saber of mine soon.  For now I'll stick with the power of the cf and CEX.

Yup, I was slightly tempted by the price reduction of the Prizm offering, but I want the full capabilities of the accent leds of the CF.  You don't want your Amazing Crystal Chamber to be limited by the capabilities of the soundboard.  With the CF, there are no limitations!
And who knows, by the time these are ready for install maybe Erv will have implemented the color changing features of the Prizm into the CF's  ;)  I will not be disappointed either way.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Justintmars on April 06, 2014, 08:18:59 PM
Just wanted to re iterate, i only posted that breakdown to show how fair the deal was, I am very certain VV took into consideration all factors for this and thought long and hard about the prices, please trust their judgement guys 
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: STARKILLER on April 07, 2014, 08:50:03 AM
It's an interesting discussion to be sure, and hours were spent arguin...er.....discussing some of those very things before we put up the list.



*Back on topic........and then there were 4 ;D
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Smorgis on April 07, 2014, 09:38:45 AM
I am torn on the color of leather to use.  I am not a fan of the brown leather but I prefer the Trailer hilt which shows Brown leather.  If I decided to go with the brown instead of the black, it would have to be pretty weathered almost to the point of black like in the close up of the first picture of GM holding both of the sabers in front of his face.
So I guess my question is.... Would it be possible to get a weathered/dirty brown leather?
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on April 07, 2014, 10:08:13 AM
I believe that what you are seeing is shadow.  What I see is a dirty weathered leather with different shades brown, olive and tan tones.  There is some challenge involved in trying to simulate it :)).  It's going to be fun :D.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Cad-Bayne on April 07, 2014, 10:18:25 AM
I am torn on the color of leather to use.  I am not a fan of the brown leather but I prefer the Trailer hilt which shows Brown leather.  If I decided to go with the brown instead of the black, it would have to be pretty weathered almost to the point of black like in the close up of the first picture of GM holding both of the sabers in front of his face.
So I guess my question is.... Would it be possible to get a weathered/dirty brown leather?

This is why I got two versions, I'm very happy with the black leather wrap, but knowing myself... Later, I would kick myself for not getting the brown leather wrap. Soooooooooo, the Concept saber for Christmas dualing then the Trailer Saber for New Years kick off, lol. 
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on April 07, 2014, 10:20:07 AM
It will be weathered dirty brown, but it is not close to black.  It will look like it does in the Trailer pics, which is multi-toned 8).
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Post by: LUKE SKYWALKER on April 07, 2014, 10:25:58 AM
I would immediately jump on a second one if I could afford it right now. A pair of those would be uber-epic  8)
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Post by: Darth Smorgis on April 07, 2014, 10:34:53 AM
I see.
Well as long as it will be weathered with different tones and some depth, I think I would like to change mine to brown in place of the black if I may.  Might as well stay true to the screen shots.
I also just noticed that my blade lengh choice of 30" was not one of the options listed in the OP.  Please let me know if that will be a problem.
Thanks.
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Post by: Starwinder on April 07, 2014, 10:35:32 AM
I would immediately jump on a second one if I could afford it right now. A pair of those would be uber-epic  8)

Totally agree.  Bayne-Fett's going in for one of each version - that's totally hardcore brother!  Wish i could do the same, but Darth Real Life force-crushed my computer last week, so that's where the other half of my saber money's gotta go.  :-\
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on April 07, 2014, 10:41:31 AM
I see.
Well as long as it will be weathered with different tones and some depth, I think I would like to change mine to brown in place of the black if I may.  Might as well stay true to the screen shots.
I also just noticed that my blade lengh choice of 30" was not one of the options listed in the OP.  Please let me know if that will be a problem.
Thanks.

30" is no problem, the original post has been modified.  Really what the key is, is that we'd like to keep blade lengths to whole numbers :D.

I would immediately jump on a second one if I could afford it right now. A pair of those would be uber-epic  8)

As you all know, runs we do are so we can get sabers that we want for our own collection :)).  A pair will be residing in the Vader's Vault Geek Cave :)).
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Post by: Vercify on April 07, 2014, 10:51:22 AM
As you all know, runs we do are so we can get sabers that we want for our own collection :)).  A pair will be residing in the Vader's Vault Geek Cave :)).

I feel like you are now obligated to post pictures of said Geek Cave, lol  ^-^
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on April 07, 2014, 11:03:24 AM
Hahaha!  I should have said, soon to be "Geek Cave" as we are moving and will have a proper one set up once the move has finished 8).  Once it is set up, we will post pics 8).
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Post by: Cad-Bayne on April 07, 2014, 12:39:26 PM
I just got dizzy thinking about such an amazing Geek Refuge... (South Park Blink... Blink... Blink)
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Post by: OBI-WAN KENOBI on April 08, 2014, 05:26:29 PM
CF/Trailer/Brown leather/36" round/weathered
CF/Trailer/Brown leather/36" round/weathered

Btw, agreed on a dirty, weathered brown leather.

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Post by: Cad-Bayne on April 08, 2014, 07:47:58 PM
;)
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Post by: STARKILLER on April 08, 2014, 08:30:01 PM
Only TWO spots left :o Those of you on the fence, better hurry ;D
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Post by: scraver on April 08, 2014, 10:25:04 PM
I can only wish at this point (bills due this month)
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Post by: Darth Smorgis on April 09, 2014, 09:11:08 AM
I played these games years ago when they came out, but I am just now reading the books.  I am half way through the second book TFU II and getting Super Pumped for this run  8)
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on April 10, 2014, 12:55:58 PM
I played these games years ago when they came out, but I am just now reading the books.  I am half way through the second book TFU II and getting Super Pumped for this run  8)

Us too!  We are very excited about this run!  We always love working with Orbital Machining!!! These are going to be AWESOME :))!

Still 2 spots left too! :)
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Post by: Cad-Bayne on April 11, 2014, 06:41:46 PM
Bump
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Post by: STARKILLER on April 12, 2014, 11:26:53 AM
....and then there was one :))
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Post by: shardan501 on April 12, 2014, 01:34:32 PM
So glad I got in when I did lol. These are gonna be AWESOME!
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Post by: Cad-Bayne on April 12, 2014, 02:21:28 PM
Good man, now... We wait! Man, I wish I could hibernate and wake up in Mid November... Only if. :)
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Post by: shardan501 on April 12, 2014, 10:59:39 PM
No kidding Cad-Bayne.

On a semi-related note, are these gonna have a user manual? or does anyone have a link they can share so i can learn how to mess with the color and sound settings once they come in?
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on April 13, 2014, 06:14:47 AM
There will be operational instructions, video, and the CF also has a detailed manual as well :).
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Post by: jedicri on April 13, 2014, 06:48:41 AM
No kidding Cad-Bayne.

On a semi-related note, are these gonna have a user manual? or does anyone have a link they can share so i can learn how to mess with the color and sound settings once they come in?


Just to give you an idea

Change your sound font (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGv0kpMFBwA#)

Jaina With RICE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRUTRc_dIzY#)
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Post by: shardan501 on April 13, 2014, 10:34:21 AM
WOO! awesome, and thanks for the videos jedicri :)
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Post by: Cad-Bayne on April 15, 2014, 01:19:47 PM
Bump
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on April 15, 2014, 01:21:32 PM
Haha, thanks for the bump :)).  Run is moving forward though, if the last spot doesn't sell, oh well.  VV will have an extra :)).
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Post by: darthpaul on April 16, 2014, 10:32:36 AM
CF Version/Trailer/Black leather/34 round

Paul vader aka .. site newbie, PM sent
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Post by: STARKILLER on April 16, 2014, 10:41:19 AM
Alrighty guys, all spots have been taken. Thanks so much to all who are involved, and we can't wait to get started! ^-^
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Post by: Starwinder on April 16, 2014, 11:48:08 AM
Very awesome!  Cannot wait  :D
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on June 08, 2014, 12:37:38 PM
Guys, in case you are not aware, we are moving house and shop this month Movin' on Up (http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=43867.0) .  All the hilts are on order.  Once we get settled in the new place, we will begin working in earnest on the design for the internals (right now we just have a rough design) and will get you an update as soon as we have it. 

Here's a little sneaky peek of the exterior in this render provided by the awesome WAT:

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq169%2FAJFenderBender%2FTFUII-GM%2Fth_TFUII_Render_zps543dcf82.jpg&hash=5de323b139672da8e729c4fe9eb666bcc7878ded) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/AJFenderBender/media/TFUII-GM/TFUII_Render_zps543dcf82.jpg.html)

We will have more information on the little details that set this hilt apart from others, very soon :D.

We are committed to making these the most awesome TFU II Concept/Trailer Sabers to date so stay tuned! 
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Post by: Darth Smorgis on June 08, 2014, 04:09:19 PM
Thanks for keeping us updated.  Hope the move goes as smoothly as possible.
Excited for you and what the new home and expanded shop will bring your family and ours.

Gives us an extra 3-4 weeks to save  :)
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Post by: Clark Kent on June 08, 2014, 04:35:16 PM
wow, i hope its really that shiny, i love it.
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Post by: Sigpro40s on August 11, 2014, 07:08:46 PM
is it too late to order?
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Post by: Clark Kent on September 10, 2014, 08:03:53 AM
Hi There,

I was wondering what the latest update on this is?

It has been 5 months since deposit and no word on progress.

anything?
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on September 10, 2014, 08:15:22 AM
Currently waiting for the hilts themselves to be machined.  The interior is being engineered :).  As soon as we have something to show, it will be posted here.
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Post by: Clark Kent on September 10, 2014, 08:23:08 AM
thanks. very excited about this run. I cant wait to see it come to life.
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on September 10, 2014, 08:27:49 AM
I am with you!  I've wanted a pair since the first time I saw the trailer :D.
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Post by: sithslayer1 on October 25, 2014, 07:39:01 AM
Currently waiting for the hilts themselves to be machined.  The interior is being engineered :).  As soon as we have something to show, it will be posted here.

Hi Luminara,

Any updates? I am really looking forward to getting mine!! Can't wait to see what you guys come up with.
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on October 28, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Just waiting for machining and engineering of chassis system.  We'll post as soon as we have anything to update :)).
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Post by: Clark Kent on October 28, 2014, 03:03:00 PM
do you have an estimate on how long?  ;)
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Post by: sithslayer1 on October 28, 2014, 04:23:50 PM
Just waiting for machining and engineering of chassis system.  We'll post as soon as we have anything to update :)).

Cool!  Thanks Luminara!
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on October 30, 2014, 06:50:03 AM
do you have an estimate on how long?  ;)

The original estimate was that we hoped to have them in folks' hands for CVII but were not promising ;).  CVII begins on April 16, 2015 8).   

As soon as I have a more tangible update, I will post it right here :)).

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Post by: GSXMatt on November 22, 2014, 02:01:00 PM
Unfortunately due to some military commitments I missed out on this one.  If anyone has to back out, please LMK.  I'm ready to fill that spot.  :D
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Post by: Clark Kent on November 22, 2014, 04:58:17 PM
hey GSX, sent you a PM
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Post by: Lazi-D on February 04, 2015, 09:38:36 AM
Star winder, thank you for giving me the chance to participate in this run.

I am very interested in owning a pair so if anyone is willing, I'd be looking for another one.

VV, any chance to change from round to bullet tip?

Cheers,
Lazi-D
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on February 04, 2015, 10:04:08 AM
Lazi-D, you can get with us with your requested options.  A bullet tip is no problem 8).
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Post by: Lazi-D on February 04, 2015, 10:14:29 AM
Luminara Unduli,

Gonna stick with CF/concept/black leather/bullet 36"/weathered.  Thanks!

Now if only I can find another one...

PM sent to Starkiller
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Post by: Lazi-D on February 05, 2015, 11:07:26 PM
Was reviewing the TFUII trailer until my eyes bled, some interesting screen captures to share (if someone hasn't already):

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1377.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah54%2Frandolphyu%2FTFUII%2520Trailer%25204m00s%25201_zps3wve2vzx.png%7Eoriginal&hash=9eb1083d93467d8ec33c36ceeadc968b6e7dcea4) (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/randolphyu/media/TFUII%20Trailer%204m00s%201_zps3wve2vzx.png.html)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1377.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah54%2Frandolphyu%2FTFUII%2520Trailer%25204m00s%25202_zps2aahqzre.png%7Eoriginal&hash=211723b5022b79f19ca28f91404e158fef1fa04d) (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/randolphyu/media/TFUII%20Trailer%204m00s%202_zps2aahqzre.png.html)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1377.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah54%2Frandolphyu%2FTFUII%2520Trailer%25204m01s_zpss17bphnw.png%7Eoriginal&hash=63664d735049268c19d0c96acbaa99a15cf199a6) (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/randolphyu/media/TFUII%20Trailer%204m01s_zpss17bphnw.png.html)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1377.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah54%2Frandolphyu%2FTFUII%2520Trailer%25204m02s_zpsic5c6w9m.png%7Eoriginal&hash=64e2c782a3828dd7d7b686e8698fc5b3e6dc844c) (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/randolphyu/media/TFUII%20Trailer%204m02s_zpsic5c6w9m.png.html)

Concept version in trailer! 

Luminara Unduli & Starkiller, PM sent, pls let me know when you see it, thanks!


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Post by: Lazi-D on February 06, 2015, 08:57:10 AM
And the dream comes true, I have a pair!  Thank you Justsomeguy!
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Post by: sithslayer1 on February 06, 2015, 01:59:18 PM
Welcome to the party, Lazi-D! This saber is going to be special!
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Post by: Cad-Bayne on February 06, 2015, 03:09:32 PM
I second that...
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Post by: Lazi-D on February 06, 2015, 04:52:53 PM
Thanks guys, stoked!
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Post by: CoronaMyke on March 19, 2015, 06:32:32 PM
Wish I could've gotten in on this one!
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on March 20, 2015, 06:49:16 AM
We should have some updates soon folks!  Thanks for your patience  :D.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Lazi-D on March 20, 2015, 07:11:38 AM
Starkiller/Luminara,

That's awesome news!  Btw, just a kind reminder that Justsomeguy sold his spot to me, as I haven't seen it updated on the list.  Would like to have the same specs as my other spot, thanks!

Lazi-D
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on March 20, 2015, 09:30:47 AM
Lazi-D can you copy me the PM with your choices on that spot again?  Thanks :)).
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Post by: Lazi-D on March 20, 2015, 10:38:13 AM
Roger that, PM sent
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on March 20, 2015, 11:29:14 AM
Updated :D.  Sorry about that Lazi-D!
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Post by: Lazi-D on March 20, 2015, 12:28:29 PM
Thanks!
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Post by: GSXMatt on April 17, 2015, 07:14:01 PM
Any updates on this?
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Post by: JANGO FETT on April 17, 2015, 08:47:31 PM
VV is at Celebration, so there would not be any update until they get back.
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Post by: sithslayer1 on April 25, 2015, 12:14:00 PM
We should have some updates soon folks!  Thanks for your patience  :D.


Any updates, ETA, etc?

Thank you.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on April 25, 2015, 08:13:36 PM
Folks, as you know Orbital Machining is doing the machine work on this.  He has gotten a bit behind due to medical issues in the past year and is diligently working to get caught up.  We chose to work with WAT as he is THE man when it comes to lightsaber machining.  His quality is unparalleled.  We ask that you be patient a while longer as these will be more than worth the wait.  I do not have an ETA as of yet, but machining is underway.  I'll be posting some pics in the next day or so of the top half/emitter area which looks awesome so far!
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Post by: Cavjo on May 17, 2015, 08:27:04 PM
Cant wait to see some pictures!!! :))
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Post by: ajhix on May 23, 2015, 10:58:05 AM
Just confirming that member: cavjo is taking my spot on the list......
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Post by: Cavjo on May 23, 2015, 10:59:41 AM
Yes , thank you very much!!!
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on June 01, 2015, 07:47:03 PM
So a quick update.  We are aware that things are taking longer than originally anticipated and appreciate your patience.  Here are some pics of the emitter so far 8) :

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq169%2FAJFenderBender%2FTFUII-GM%2Fth_IMG_1011_zpslmvbwpde.jpg&hash=5f8bcc12130d64611977e88a9212f9fa63a5a1c5) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/AJFenderBender/media/TFUII-GM/IMG_1011_zpslmvbwpde.jpg.html)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq169%2FAJFenderBender%2FTFUII-GM%2Fth_IMG_1002_zpsvyp4mr7v.jpg&hash=9cb2c9710dd2e597b9b5653180f78affb195562d) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/AJFenderBender/media/TFUII-GM/IMG_1002_zpsvyp4mr7v.jpg.html)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq169%2FAJFenderBender%2FTFUII-GM%2Fth_IMG_0995_zpsjnqcmyrs.jpg&hash=7bb60b9d53f909c3eb481b6678e1c64d0f80df88) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/AJFenderBender/media/TFUII-GM/IMG_0995_zpsjnqcmyrs.jpg.html)

We are as excited as you to get these babies in hand, believe me.  As soon as we have more pics we will post them here :D.
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Post by: garymorris2 on June 01, 2015, 09:06:12 PM
Awesome!!! these are going to be greeeaat! the emitters looks so crisp :)
 can't wait to see more vaders vault !
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Post by: Cavjo on June 01, 2015, 09:24:47 PM
I can't wait these look awesome!!!!
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Post by: Cad-Bayne on June 02, 2015, 03:20:38 AM
Can't wait!!!!
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Pfockerchief on August 19, 2015, 05:15:33 PM
Any updates?  Pretty pretty please  :D.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on August 19, 2015, 05:19:17 PM
 :'( :'( :'( With the Orbital/TCSS arrangement, things have been delayed.  I am sure Wat will get back working on these soon  :).
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Smorgis on August 19, 2015, 07:21:12 PM
I am not worried.  Still very excited for this saber whenever it might happen.
It will be worth the wait I am certain.  I might even be sending my second payment of 25% soon to stay ahead of the game.  Look forward to updates whenever they may happen.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Pfockerchief on August 21, 2015, 07:42:23 PM
I am not worried.  Still very excited for this saber whenever it might happen.
It will be worth the wait I am certain.  I might even be sending my second payment of 25% soon to stay ahead of the game.  Look forward to updates whenever they may happen.

Yes, yes...patience is not this Sith's strong suit.  I too have no doubt of the quality of this saber once it is finished.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Smorgis on August 29, 2015, 12:00:34 PM
Luminara, I sent you a PM a couple of days ago.  Just a friendly reminder because I know you get a lot of messages  ^-^
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on September 24, 2015, 09:02:25 AM
Folks very sorry for the lack of updates here.  Please do not think we are ignoring you all.  As soon as we have more pics we will post them.  In the meantime, can everyone check their status and if something is incorrect PM me please.  This run has been going on a while and a few spots have changed hands over time.  I want to make sure we have everyone's current options correct.  Thanks.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Lazi-D on September 24, 2015, 09:23:40 AM
Folks very sorry for the lack of updates here.  Please do not think we are ignoring you all.  As soon as we have more pics we will post them.  In the meantime, can everyone check their status and if something is incorrect PM me please.  This run has been going on a while and a few spots have changed hands over time.  I want to make sure we have everyone's current options correct.  Thanks.

Hi Lumi,

I know I've been going back and forth, but the below config will be final for me:

1.  Lazi-D - CF/trailer/brown leather/34 bullet shine thru/weathered
19.  Lazi-D - CF/trailer/brown leather/34 bullet shine thru/weathered

Thanks,
Lazi-D
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Smorgis on September 24, 2015, 01:54:24 PM
I just wanted to see if it was okay to send you my second payment of 25%.  The money is just waiting to be sent as long as you dont mind an early payment.

Also, I think I would like to change my blade length to 32".  Otherwise everything is correct for me.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on September 24, 2015, 02:36:47 PM
I appreciate it, but that would be an accounting headache.  When the machining is finished, we will send invoices for the second payment :). 
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: aiden_is on September 27, 2015, 06:41:47 PM
If you still have a slot open, I would like one of the following...

CF/ Trailer Version with Black Anodizing/Weathered/Brown Leather Wrap/ 32" Blade with Lit Round Tip
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: 97th Acolyte on September 28, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
If you still have a slot open, I would like one of the following...

CF/ Trailer Version with Black Anodizing/Weathered/Brown Leather Wrap/ 32" Blade with Lit Round Tip

This run has been full for a while now. Like, a long while. The only way you're gunna get a spot on this is if one of the members on the run decides to sell their spot.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: aiden_is on September 28, 2015, 09:02:44 PM
If you still have a slot open, I would like one of the following...

CF/ Trailer Version with Black Anodizing/Weathered/Brown Leather Wrap/ 32" Blade with Lit Round Tip

This run has been full for a while now. Like, a long while. The only way you're gunna get a spot on this is if one of the members on the run decides to sell their spot.

Thanks for the information. By posting as I did, it affords someone the opportunity to back out if they choose, and for the manufacturer to sell one more if they choose.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on November 04, 2015, 05:03:26 PM
Sneaky progress peek  :angel: :

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq169%2FAJFenderBender%2FTFUII-GM%2Fth_IMG_20151102_170146868_zps9rewtjsi.jpg&hash=c16564c532ff3a7abbe454d23f8bb244f8a5a6f4) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/AJFenderBender/media/TFUII-GM/IMG_20151102_170146868_zps9rewtjsi.jpg.html)
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Forgetful Jedi Knight on November 04, 2015, 05:38:12 PM
Nice! *Passes the halo polish*  :cheesy:
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Cad-Bayne on November 04, 2015, 06:32:13 PM
Ooooooooooooh, so very nice...
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Smorgis on November 04, 2015, 06:39:05 PM
Yyyyyyaaaaaaayyyyy!!!!!!
Machining almost done?
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on November 05, 2015, 06:59:04 AM
Sneaky progress peek  :angel: :

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq169%2FAJFenderBender%2FTFUII-GM%2Fth_IMG_20151102_170146868_zps9rewtjsi.jpg&hash=c16564c532ff3a7abbe454d23f8bb244f8a5a6f4) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/AJFenderBender/media/TFUII-GM/IMG_20151102_170146868_zps9rewtjsi.jpg.html)

They look beautiful! Luminara, any closer to an ETA on this run?

Thank you.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on November 05, 2015, 08:23:12 AM
Yyyyyyaaaaaaayyyyy!!!!!!
Machining almost done?

I wouldn't go that far.  It is a VERY complex hilt with a lot of little pieces.  However, there is progress which is a good thing :smiley:.  Acerocket's machining skills are worth the wait and I am confident that these will be a phenomenal centerpiece to all of our collections.

Sneaky progress peek  :angel: :

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq169%2FAJFenderBender%2FTFUII-GM%2Fth_IMG_20151102_170146868_zps9rewtjsi.jpg&hash=c16564c532ff3a7abbe454d23f8bb244f8a5a6f4) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/AJFenderBender/media/TFUII-GM/IMG_20151102_170146868_zps9rewtjsi.jpg.html)

They look beautiful! Luminara, any closer to an ETA on this run?

Thank you.

I do not have an ETA.  Acerocket is not giving ETAs at this time as per this thread here: Orbital Machining news and information (http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=46887.0)
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on November 05, 2015, 10:08:25 AM
No problem, just thought I'd ask. I look forward to the final version!
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on November 05, 2015, 10:59:40 AM
No problem, just thought I'd ask. I look forward to the final version!

No worries, I wish I had more information.  Acerocket has a lot on his plate so we just all need to be patient.  Good things come to those who wait  :smiley:.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: shardan501 on January 02, 2016, 09:31:22 AM
so quick question, would your combat class couplers work with these? i plan on taking these to a lot of conventions for my Jedi cosplay, and i thought it'd be another awesome factor among the billion other font/color combinations already available with a pair these :)
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on January 03, 2016, 09:19:12 AM
Unfortunately not.  Different dimensions.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Wolfgeorge on January 15, 2016, 04:07:59 AM
If anyone is willing to sell their spot I'm here!!

Looking to get one of these babies!

Thank you
Wolf
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: shardan501 on January 18, 2016, 02:55:33 PM
fair enough :P thanks :D
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Hulk on January 19, 2016, 11:04:46 PM
I know that this has been full for ... forever.. but if a spot opens up I'd like to get in on one of these!
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Wolfgeorge on February 03, 2016, 05:32:05 AM
I'm also interested if there's a place or if someone wants to sell his place.


Wolf
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on February 15, 2016, 11:24:30 AM
OK folks, good news!  Machining is almost done and we need to make certain we are sending the correct number of hilts to the anodizer.  Since this run has been going on so long (very sorry) there have been changes to options, spots sold, spots bought, etc.  PLEASE look and make sure you name is on the list if you are supposed to be, and confirm the options you see next to your name are the ones you want.  If it says anodizing and we send it to the anodizer, there will be no changing of minds after the fact. 

SO PLEASE post in THIS THREAD, "options correct" OR "adjust my options to: ".  I will give this until Friday.  Whoever does not post in the thread, I will PM on Friday.  If we do not hear from you by the end of this coming weekend we are going to roll with what it says by your name.  Because of the nature of anodizing, they all need to be sent at once and I can't hold people up who have been waiting so long to chase other people down. 

I realize this has been going on much longer than anticipated so that is why we are giving it the week.

This is strictly for aesthetic build out.  No soundcard changes are available at this time, that ship has sailed :cheesy:.

Let me know if you have any questions and please get your answers posted in this thread ASAP!!! :azn:

That also means that we will be sending out invoices soon for the second payment  :smiley:.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Smorgis on February 15, 2016, 12:03:47 PM
"Options Correct"

So excited to start seeing this progress  :cool:
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on February 15, 2016, 04:01:11 PM
"Options correct."
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on February 16, 2016, 08:24:33 AM
BUMPING, people I need your confirmation!
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: TOWDrac on February 16, 2016, 09:16:05 AM
Please adjust my options to: CF/Anodized Trailer version/Black leather/36" round shine through tip/Clean + one RICE cable

This is super exciting! I'm looking forward to showing this off.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: onigiri34 on February 18, 2016, 11:30:26 AM
"OPTIONS CORRECT"

Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Pfockerchief on February 18, 2016, 01:16:50 PM
CF/anodized Trailer/brown leather/36"bullet/weathered/AWESOME

Good to hear this is back on track.  Hopefully it can accelerate from here.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Lazi-D on February 18, 2016, 07:39:15 PM
"ADJUST MY OPTIONS TO:"

Hi Lumi,

1.  Lazi-D - CF/trailer/brown leather/34 bullet shine thru/weathered
19.  Lazi-D - CF/trailer/brown leather/34 bullet shine thru/weathered

Thanks!
Lazi-D
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on February 19, 2016, 11:40:55 AM
Bumping...
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: MACE WINDU on February 19, 2016, 02:03:02 PM
Adjust to:

CF/Trailer Anodized/brown leather/34 bullet shine thru/weathering for both.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: shardan501 on February 19, 2016, 07:29:06 PM
Options Correct

I can't begin to describe how i will feel when i am finally holding these in my hands.  I am so excited! :D
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on February 21, 2016, 08:04:01 PM
Bumping again!  I was sick all weekend so unable to send follow up emails, but it would be awesome if you guys could save me the trouble and post here  :smiley:.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on February 29, 2016, 08:34:29 PM
OK all PMs have gone out.  Going to give it until the end of this weekend.  Please guys, respond to the PM.  I know it has been a long time but the light is at the end of the tunnel and we want to get the anodizing done so we can move to the electronics phase.  Also, bills will be going out within the next week for the next installment.  Please pay promptly so we can get the CFV8s and CEX boards in progress  :smiley:.

Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Cavjo on February 29, 2016, 09:00:32 PM
Message sent thanks!!
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: gjs33 on March 06, 2016, 03:28:11 AM
Just putting it out there, if anyone changes their mind and wants to sell their spot, I'm interested!

Thanks!
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: aiden_is on March 07, 2016, 11:29:42 PM
I REALLY hate to do this, since I was lucky enough to snag my spot from someone else here. But, my brother just lost his job, and I want to financially support him and his family as much as I can until he can get back on his feet.

So... whoever PMs me and pays first gets this...

13. aiden_is - CF/Trailer/Brown leather/36" round/weathered Deposit Paid
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Starwinder on March 08, 2016, 06:40:43 AM
I REALLY hate to do this, since I was lucky enough to snag my spot from someone else here. But, my brother just lost his job, and I want to financially support him and his family as much as I can until he can get back on his feet.

So... whoever PMs me and pays first gets this...

13. aiden_is - CF/Trailer/Brown leather/36" round/weathered Deposit Paid

I feel ya.  I was in the same situation over a year ago (actually both my brother and my best friend lost their jobs and they both had infants at the time), so I gave up my spot on this run (the first spot) to help out.  Sad to do it, but family comes first.  Both are now gainfully employed i'm happy to report.

Best of luck to you and your family.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: highflyer on March 08, 2016, 08:52:14 AM
I REALLY hate to do this, since I was lucky enough to snag my spot from someone else here. But, my brother just lost his job, and I want to financially support him and his family as much as I can until he can get back on his feet.

So... whoever PMs me and pays first gets this...

13. aiden_is - CF/Trailer/Brown leather/36" round/weathered Deposit Paid
I will take your spot. PM sent.
Have you contacted alan/deanna first, as per the rules of this run?

Update: I cleared it with them. Ready when you are.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: aiden_is on March 08, 2016, 09:31:15 AM
Thanks for all the well wishes everyone. Since I purchased my slot from a mod on here, I was pretty sure that VV was good with swapping as long as changes aren't being made.

Regardless, as expected I have had 3 responses to my post, and I'm sure one of them will pan out. Please don't PM me about it now.

Thanks again, you guys are awesome.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: highflyer on March 08, 2016, 11:10:15 AM
well, looks like someone else was faster. that's the third time I missed out on this because I live in the wrong timezone.
congrats to the other guy and let me know if you change your mind!
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Canister on March 09, 2016, 11:05:23 AM
Looks like a very nice saber, only recently found out about all the "sensitive nature" of the saber. Looks great a slight mix of poster and trailer model. In 2010 when the game came out I had dreams about this saber, started making it and never finished it( the smallest start). Interesting pomel, Looks like it may be the best replication yet.

Great work.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on March 24, 2016, 10:00:08 AM
OK guys.  A few of you never got back to me so hopefully you are OK with the anodizing because I have given instructions to the machinist to send all the sabers to the anodizer except for the folks that specifically requested no anodizing.

I will be in touch in the next couple of days with payment instructions on the next installment.

Please hit me up via PM with any questions.

The Light is at the end of the tunnel  :smiley:.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: msasin on March 24, 2016, 10:02:24 AM
Super excited for this   :laugh: Will be getting the fund ready to send the next instalment.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Adan Valera on April 23, 2016, 03:15:26 PM
I have to ask if there are any spots open in this or people that have dropped out?
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Lordstarkiller20 on May 01, 2016, 11:36:04 PM
Is this site the only way to be informed of VV runs? I wish I can be notified through email or something lol. I'm always super late to the party
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on May 04, 2016, 08:35:18 AM
OK guys.  A few of you never got back to me so hopefully you are OK with the anodizing because I have given instructions to the machinist to send all the sabers to the anodizer except for the folks that specifically requested no anodizing.

I will be in touch in the next couple of days with payment instructions on the next installment.

Please hit me up via PM with any questions.

The Light is at the end of the tunnel  :smiley:.


Any further ETA updates, Luminara?

Thank you.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on May 08, 2016, 03:49:10 PM
Working on the internal design and fitment currently.  I know I have said this before but the second invoices are going out this week.  I should have done it several weeks ago, just hadn't got the chance. 
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: highflyer on May 21, 2016, 09:11:55 AM
has anyone on the run received the second invoice? just making sure I didn't miss anything
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on May 21, 2016, 09:55:39 AM
I don't believe they went out yet (I mean the second payment request) . I have not received an email as of today.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Pfockerchief on May 21, 2016, 12:20:51 PM
No they haven't gone out.  Looking forward to finally seeing some reveal details.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: vsutherland01 on May 26, 2016, 08:23:23 AM
Ooh, I can't wait to see these completed!
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on June 03, 2016, 03:21:50 PM
None have shipped yet.  I just got the sabers in and will be sending out those long overdue second invoices.  We have the crystal chamber under construction and once we receive the parts from manufacturing we will start building them out.   :smiley:
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: GSXMatt on June 06, 2016, 07:52:06 AM
These have a crystal chamber? Nice.  If it was said before, I guess I missed it.  Looking forward to this, since it's been a long time coming.  ;)
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on July 11, 2016, 05:22:47 AM
None have shipped yet.  I just got the sabers in and will be sending out those long overdue second invoices.  We have the crystal chamber under construction and once we receive the parts from manufacturing we will start building them out.   :smiley:

Any progress Luminara?
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Pfockerchief on August 08, 2016, 04:56:00 PM
Lumi can you tell us whether these will see the light of day before years end?
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on August 08, 2016, 05:22:46 PM
I certainly hope so.  Still working on chassis/reveal.  :angel:
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: jaytor15 on August 10, 2016, 08:48:04 AM
cant wait to see these!!  Question...are they all completely sold? 
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Lordstarkiller20 on August 14, 2016, 06:35:02 PM
If anyone is ordering two and hypothetically doesn't want two anymore, I'd LOVE to buy your place on this list
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: cjo128 on August 16, 2016, 09:52:53 AM
I also would be interested in taking someone's spot if they have wish to vacate theirs.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on October 11, 2016, 01:17:33 PM
I certainly hope so.  Still working on chassis/reveal.  :angel:

Hi Luminara, any updates? Two months after your post, so any sense of when these are nearing completion? Possibly before 2017?

Thank you.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on October 26, 2016, 12:19:08 PM
Sorry, I do not.  We are still in progress with manufacturing the innards and once those are done installs will start.  I have held off on collecting the second payment until I was closer but as soon as I have a positive ETA on the interior, we will get the invoices out.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on October 26, 2016, 01:16:00 PM
Got it, thank you for the update.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Hulk on November 02, 2016, 10:01:01 PM
I know these have been sold out for forever but see that I missed a couple notices that people had to sell their spots....

not wishing any hard times on anyone but if I'm very interested if someone does happen to need to sell their spot, or just needs 1 of 2 they have spots for or something.

Thanks! hope things are going smoothly now!
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: dr.djcolegrove on December 30, 2016, 05:39:08 PM
I'm interested in getting in on this run if anyone has a spot they want to part with.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Hulk on January 03, 2017, 11:31:22 AM
I'm interested as well - either version would be awesome but particularly love the Concept version.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: darthpaul on January 04, 2017, 08:31:39 AM
Someone can buy my spot if the administrator creator allows.  This has taken so long to come to fruition that I am sadly no longer interested although I'm sure it will be spectacular if ever actually made.

Paul

edit:  Thanks for interest in buying my spot.  I am waiting for Starkiller to free up some space because his inbox is full and I can't message him/her
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Hulk on January 04, 2017, 09:02:39 AM
Pm sent!
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Lazi-D on February 21, 2017, 08:04:51 AM
Hi Lumi,

Any updates?
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on February 21, 2017, 04:58:08 PM
Hi Lumi,

Any updates?

What he said.  Coming up on three years folks, I hope this is VV most epic, mind blowing saber run ever to date! I in no way am trying to get out the torches and pitchforks here against VV! I just would appreciate Luminara or Starkiller (Deanna or Alan) chiming in, as this is frustrating.
When can we expect these done?

Thank you.

Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: SharkyMcShark on February 21, 2017, 11:59:19 PM
Working on the internal design and fitment currently. 


We have the crystal chamber under construction and once we receive the parts from manufacturing we will start building them out.   :smiley:

Still working on chassis/reveal.  :angel:

We are still in progress with manufacturing the innards and once those are done installs will start. 


This is essentially your answer for the last 10 months.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Hulk on March 29, 2017, 10:48:20 PM
Hey Lumi,

Any progress on the Chassis/reveal?

Thanks!
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Dark Lord 4 on April 02, 2017, 08:35:26 AM
Can I still get a starkiller? I recently got into collecting VV sabers as I used to only collect licensed replicas (stupidly). The starkiller saber is absolutely amazing with the exposed crystal etc. Will this version be exactly the same?
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Kanjiklub on April 02, 2017, 09:59:18 AM
I would like to get in on this run if anyone wants to sell their spot.

Thanks
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Hulk on April 02, 2017, 07:49:51 PM
Can I still get a starkiller? I recently got into collecting VV sabers as I used to only collect licensed replicas (stupidly). The starkiller saber is absolutely amazing with the exposed crystal etc. Will this version be exactly the same?

This run is actually for the second game, TFUII and hence a different saber. They have never made this one before in run.

There is a confirmed run coming of the exposed Starkiller saber you are referring to with some reported upgrades, but that is all they have said. It was planned to be started already I believe but I think it something with the chassis pushed it back, as it did this run.

That's all what Ive gleaned anyway, I know nothing officially.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Smorgis on April 29, 2017, 04:19:38 PM
PlecterPixel...............
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Pfockerchief on April 29, 2017, 08:18:32 PM
PlecterPixel...............

What are you saying?
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: darth hondo on April 29, 2017, 08:54:50 PM
PlecterPixel...............

What are you saying?

String blade from VV
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: highflyer on April 30, 2017, 04:49:24 AM
PlecterPixel...............

What are you saying?

String blade from VV

are you (with way too few words) saying:
"I believe they have pushed this run so far back, because they wanted it to be the first to use the new plecterpixel-technology, to make up for the long wait?"

or are you just in the wrong thread?
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Smorgis on April 30, 2017, 04:58:54 AM
PlecterPixel...............

What are you saying?

Hoping this run may get the option to upgrade with this feature.  Would be nice to see this saber to be the first with that particular feature due to the MASSIVE patience we have shown throughout this never ending run.  Would be a nice treat is all I am saying.

Video......

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dn6IcTe6Kjhc&h=ATMwC180YUhQyp8j6X9Y-zbDopRHKgkeqjz9TLQjk4VAcD6dmWT6dEZ1IhqiYKDDn54dIf_31l2Y0j2Di_JKmDM46pBlq6768S_udfxP7478KW3JVLQ8eGu1iQlGsc8&s=1&enc=AZM_l3XzUv_Vzpm0ri3d1jDtx0GSCCdwvN78Kuwj_94Mwh1dRFCM8pwo5_6mgRT16s1UaCCJTyj0Q5zksqEBTwCiZKvx9x0f-DFGMxwBJ_Engg (https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dn6IcTe6Kjhc&h=ATMwC180YUhQyp8j6X9Y-zbDopRHKgkeqjz9TLQjk4VAcD6dmWT6dEZ1IhqiYKDDn54dIf_31l2Y0j2Di_JKmDM46pBlq6768S_udfxP7478KW3JVLQ8eGu1iQlGsc8&s=1&enc=AZM_l3XzUv_Vzpm0ri3d1jDtx0GSCCdwvN78Kuwj_94Mwh1dRFCM8pwo5_6mgRT16s1UaCCJTyj0Q5zksqEBTwCiZKvx9x0f-DFGMxwBJ_Engg)
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on April 30, 2017, 05:41:23 AM
If anyone on this run gets a reply or update to any PMs from VV, please share. I have sent a few PMs to Deanna and Alan and have had NO replies which I find beyond belief after a 3 year wait time. I am a repeat customer and have simply asked in a polite manner for a ETA so I can decide if I still wait or sell my spot on this run.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Smorgis on April 30, 2017, 10:41:18 AM
If anyone on this run gets a reply or update to any PMs from VV, please share. I have sent a few PMs to Deanna and Alan and have had NO replies which I find beyond belief after a 3 year wait time. I am a repeat customer and have simply asked in a polite manner for a ETA so I can decide if I still wait or sell my spot on this run.

I feel your pain sithslayer.  It has officially been 3+ years since we paid our $400+ deposits on this run.  Vader's Vault has been darn near absent from this forum since starting their Facebook group.  I really feel we have been neglected ever since that time.  Can't help but wonder why other "combat class" sabers have taken priority over this one.  Pretty sure our money is just as good as the money being spent on those other sabers.  I understand it takes time to design chassis parts and internal designs, but I also see a lot of time and energy being spent in other areas while this project remains on the back burner.  Frustration is at an all time high and Communication is crucial given the circumstances and timeframe of this run.  Not trying to hurt any feelings here but I believe a little healthy criticism is in order at this time.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on April 30, 2017, 11:35:06 AM
This is NOT a Combat Class saber.  This is a high end run with a full reveal.  Totally different animal in terms of complexity, pricepoint, and timeframe both to produce and complete.

We do not currently have plans for Neopixel on this run, however we DO have plans for the next gen board.  It has taken longer than we would like and we apologize.  As you all know we did not have hilts in hand until Q2 last year.  We were unable to work much on the internals until we had them in hand.  We have been putting a lot of time and effort into finalizing the internals and I hope to have this run wrapped up by end of Summer soundcard and chassis finalization permitting.  I had hoped it would be done sooner but have come down with the flu not once, but twice since January which has been very disruptive and has taken us out of the shop for several weeks between the two bouts :(.

However, the "why is energy going elsewhere" comments are not helpful.  We run a business and we have to put energy in many different areas.  Producing things can be very easy or very difficult depending on the challenges of each project and some projects will come to fruition quickly, some will be time consuming.  It just isn't a relevant discussion.  Until you own a production business you do not understand the challenges involved.  You also need to understand that in order to have any sort of product line many different things get worked on and produced simultaneously.  It doesn't mean because we are releasing one thing that we are not also working on other things.  I assure you we are.

Should anyone be unhappy waiting, please contact me.  You all have a 25% deposit.  I am happy to refund anyone who no longer wants to wait.  These are spectacular, I would hope you would want to wait, particularly as they are being sold at 3 year ago pricing.  They would be priced quite a bit higher if we released this run today, so folks are getting a spectacular deal.  I also feel these are going to be the definitive TFUIIs.  The details on this saber have not been seen in other versions.  But, we do understand if the wait has been too long for you and that is fine too.

I never did send out the invoices for the second payment, which will be coming soonish. 

Thanks for your patience and May the Force Be With You!

Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Kanjiklub on April 30, 2017, 03:18:39 PM
I would buy a spot if anyone is tired of waiting?
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Smorgis on April 30, 2017, 03:38:07 PM
For the record, the question " why is energy going elsewhere?" was never asked.  I did however make an observation of time and energy being spent on other projects while this one was sitting idle as far as we could tell.  It is understood that other projects must move forward regardless of this one, but is frustrating and a completely valid observation from a customer standpoint.  It does become "relevant" to the customer after a certain period of time with no communication or updates.

I will leave it at that.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on April 30, 2017, 06:18:41 PM
I understand your frustration.  But, like every product we release, we have a vision and a plan and I am not going to compromise the end product.  I would prefer to refund those not willing to wait and continue moving forward to bring out the best TFUIIs ever.  These are a unicorn for me, as are most of the runs we do.  We do these runs because we want the sabers as well.  I do not want to cut any last minute corners, particularly as everyone has been waiting so long already.  It would be foolish to compromise at the end.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on April 30, 2017, 07:16:38 PM
For the record, the question " why is energy going elsewhere?" was never asked.  I did however make an observation of time and energy being spent on other projects while this one was sitting idle as far as we could tell.  It is understood that other projects must move forward regardless of this one, but is frustrating and a completely valid observation from a customer standpoint.  It does become "relevant" to the customer after a certain period of time with no communication or updates.

I will leave it at that.

Same here. I don't recall that I  made a comment about your combat class runs Deanna and the last thing I want is to publicly flame anyone. I am merely asking from today's date, can you please give a fairly accurate ETA on when this run will be done?
1-3 more months, 6 months, next year, etc? I am a good customer and am not looking to bash VV.  I just want to get enough information so I can see if it's worth waiting vs getting my deposit back (which I think is fair of you to offer, thank you).

Truth be told, I prefer to get the best Star Killer Trailer saber to date, but I'm not waiting another 6-8 months.

Thank you in advance for your reply.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: bruno1067 on May 01, 2017, 02:53:08 AM
I hope I don't regret this if anyone gets interested but I would buy a run spot.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: onigiri34 on May 01, 2017, 03:53:35 AM
Well,I am on board with frustrations, but positive notes, as it is taking so long, maybe more goodies to come. Also, the new CF may be ready at this time pre-delivery, so I don't mind the longer wait if also new tech comes out.

I am sure the Crystal Chamber and all will be very Unicorn, as will the whole Saber. I probably don't foresee anyone on this run selling theirs unless dire circumstances call Haha
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Sithilis on May 01, 2017, 04:28:23 AM
I'd be interested in a spot also if anyone decides to bow out, would even trade for my force relics wampa
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: highflyer on May 01, 2017, 12:13:12 PM
I understand frustrations over the long wait time.
I never understood the "I paid money for this" argument for highly coveted runs like this, though.
If you want your money back, you could have easily sold your spot. VV have always been cool with that, and it would take you about 5 minutes to find a buyer.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on May 01, 2017, 01:22:01 PM
For the record, the question " why is energy going elsewhere?" was never asked.  I did however make an observation of time and energy being spent on other projects while this one was sitting idle as far as we could tell.  It is understood that other projects must move forward regardless of this one, but is frustrating and a completely valid observation from a customer standpoint.  It does become "relevant" to the customer after a certain period of time with no communication or updates.

I will leave it at that.

Same here. I don't recall that I  made a comment about your combat class runs Deanna and the last thing I want is to publicly flame anyone. I am merely asking from today's date, can you please give a fairly accurate ETA on when this run will be done?
1-3 more months, 6 months, next year, etc? I am a good customer and am not looking to bash VV.  I just want to get enough information so I can see if it's worth waiting vs getting my deposit back (which I think is fair of you to offer, thank you).

Truth be told, I prefer to get the best Star Killer Trailer saber to date, but I'm not waiting another 6-8 months.

Thank you in advance for your reply.

You are not the one who made the comment about Combat Class Sithslayer1.  The comment that was made was why Combat Class take precedence over this run.  The answer is they don't.  It is simply a business truth that Combat Class are much simpler to produce.  Different machinist, different engineering, different install difficulty, totally different pricepoint, etc. I have a team of employees who deal with that production.  High end runs are primarily Alan and I and we want a very special crystal chamber for these as since this run started the bar has been raised on internals for this saber.  Other manufacturers have produced some very respectable versions.  However, WE promised everyone the best TFUIIs every produced and that is what we are going to deliver.  There are details on this saber that have not been seen in any other version externally and we want the internals to match that level of awesomeness.

It makes no sense after this time, to just install them and ship them with a conventional, non-reveal chassis.  There is a reason we waited for the best machinist in the industry to provide us with our vision of this saber brought to life.  It would be a disservice to the saber as well as our customers at this point to compromise on the internals just to get them out and it is something I am just not willing to do.  I also want to wait for the next gen board which I am hoping is right around the corner.

So, realistically, I expect these to start shipping over the Summer with the run to be completed this year.  Obviously, not every saber will ship the same day, they will ship over a couple of months.  As soon as I have green light on the soundcards I will be sending out the invoice for the next installment of 25% and then final payment of 50% plus shipping will be due prior to shipping.

I would also like to apologize once again.  This has taken WAY too long and we are aware of it.  As many folks know, our business model changed completely with the release of TFA and we have had an enormous amount of growing pains.  We went from Alan and I working out of our house to a staff of people working out of a state of the art facility.  We went from doing mostly custom work, to doing primarily production work.  We often are unable to get past the day to day realities of running a business like ordering, modeling, bill paying, hiring, training, payroll, taxes, etc. and have not been able to spend as much time on sabers personally so the high end runs and customs have slowed.  We have been working to fix that.  Combat Class wait times are back down to acceptable levels.  We are in the process of trying to hire a CAD designer as well as a Software developer so that we can focus more of our time on our Custom build log and our high end runs, which are where our personal passion lies.  You will be seeing more of the customs in the log posted as well as this run completed this year  :azn:.

I also want to apologize profusely to Erik at Orbital.  In my post yesterday, I made a statement, which I have since corrected, that we received the sabers Q3 last year, which was not the case.  That was an error on my part and I should have checked my records before inserting foot into mouth.  We received them in Q2  last year, not Q3.  As always, he delivered a product that solidifies his legacy of the best machinist in the saber industry and he brought our vision to life down to the smallest nuance.  Guys, Alan and I are committed to getting these moving along faster so that we can meet the above time line.

Anyone who is not OK with that timeline, please contact me for a full refund of your 25% deposit or you can sell your spot.  On spot selling, there are no changes other than blade type available at this point.  Someone would need to buy your spot "as-is" in terms of options.

Please let me know if anyone has any other questions.

Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on May 01, 2017, 02:03:34 PM
Deanna,  I appreciate the time it took to write this reply. I'm sure all would agree time better spent on saber work. Thank you for the update, that's all I wanted.

At this point, I am going to wait and trust you and Alan that this will be THE TFU Trailer saber against which all others will be  measured!

Thank you.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: GSXMatt on May 05, 2017, 10:28:29 AM
Are these coming with special stands?
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on May 07, 2017, 02:00:39 PM
Originally Sanjuro was going to do the stands.  Since we haven't heard from him in a while we will probably go in another direction but they will be custom stands for this run.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on May 17, 2017, 02:39:34 PM
OK some good news to share!  We have brought on a mechanical engineer/CAD designer to the staff in house who is helping us finish up the chassis design so we can get them produced ASAP.  So my target of shipping beginning during the Summer should be very feasible with all sabers in hand before the movie premiere in December if not before.  Of course I will keep everyone posted with this  :azn:.

Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on May 17, 2017, 02:47:22 PM
Thank you for the update Deanna.

MTFBWY.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Smorgis on May 17, 2017, 06:21:18 PM
Thanks for the update.  Much appreciated.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: onigiri34 on May 17, 2017, 06:58:07 PM
Thank you so much for the update. The chassis is going to be 3D-printed?
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Pfockerchief on May 18, 2017, 11:02:53 AM
Thank you so much for the update. The chassis is going to be 3D-printed?

What suggests 3D printed?  I'm certain that a saber of this caliber will have a machined chamber, which can utilize 3D cad renders.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on May 18, 2017, 04:48:20 PM
Thank you so much for the update. The chassis is going to be 3D-printed?

What suggests 3D printed?  I'm certain that a saber of this caliber will have a machined chamber, which can utilize 3D cad renders.

Onigiri34.  No.  I am not a fan of 3D printed chassis and we do not use them unless there is really no other option.  This will have a full reveal with multiple materials and incorporate CNC machining with other finish techniques.  You are going to love it.  I do not want to say too much more yet  :wink:. 
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: onigiri34 on May 18, 2017, 06:17:27 PM
That is great, great news. Thank you.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: CyrusMzRG on June 08, 2017, 03:53:51 AM
OK some good news to share!  We have brought on a mechanical engineer/CAD designer to the staff in house who is helping us finish up the chassis design so we can get them produced ASAP.  So my target of shipping beginning during the Summer should be very feasible with all sabers in hand before the movie premiere in December if not before.  Of course I will keep everyone posted with this  :azn:.

Hello LUMINARA and rest of the forum. I am new in the Light sabers world and I really like them. I didnt know it could be possible have a saber of this quality.

My question is:

are there any possibility to order this or the VV Flex  Saber??

Thank you


Cyrus
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Hulk on June 21, 2017, 09:01:44 PM
Hey Lumi - wondering if there are any updates on timeline? Ie, still on target to get started on shipping by end of summer, if chassis design finalized, when to expect 2nd deposit etc. Thanks!
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on July 24, 2017, 09:50:53 AM
To carry this over from the other thread here is where updates on the TFU2 run appear.  As I mentioned towards the end of May, we brought on an engineer to help us finalize the internal chassis because we were having a struggle getting it done on our own.  We had changed the design from a more basic internal chassis with a crystal chamber, to something much more elaborate. We felt like we wanted to bring on a cad designer/mechanical engineer to help us work out the finer details as well as all of our upcoming projects.  I realize the Run has been going on a long time and I understand that people are getting frustrated.  It IS very far along. All of the hilts are machined, they are all anodized, and the chassis is designed pending any tweaks after the SK ones are manufactured.  To the person who wanted to see weathering and wrap examples we don't do that.  First of all we don't do spoilers until we are really ready to share.  Secondly we don't do the final finish until everything is already installed.  This minimizes any damage to the fit and finish that might happen during the installation process.  We do not have extras to mock up of these.  As you know, it is a VERY limited run. The reason why the Starkiller was the proof of concept, is because it incorporates a lot of the same features that the Tfu2 chassis will incorporate, but because the Starkiller has the crystal in a different area it's a bit easier to manufacture the chassis. We wanted to make sure everything works out well before finishing with the Tfu2 chassis which incorporates the crystal chamber into its design so is a bit more complex in terms of layout and installation.  As I have mentioned before, if anyone on the run no longer wishes to wait please contact me and we can make arrangements.  We are close. I was hoping for end of summer it's looking more like early fall before they start shipping.  It's not going to be another year, it's not going to go on forever.  But we've waited this long I want it to be right.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on July 24, 2017, 09:51:23 AM
Post deleted, as you answered my question, thank you.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on July 24, 2017, 09:58:57 AM
I posted before reading your reply Deanna, so all good!

Thank you for the update.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: MACE WINDU on July 24, 2017, 06:11:14 PM
These sabers will be awesome.  I'm very much looking forward to the finished product :)
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Pfockerchief on July 28, 2017, 12:45:15 PM
These sabers will be awesome.  I'm very much looking forward to the finished product :)

Mace you truly have the patience of a Jedi.  Some of us sith types are struggling lol.  I've no doubt it will be great.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on September 29, 2017, 09:37:50 AM
Hey Lumi - wondering if there are any updates on timeline? Ie, still on target to get started on shipping by end of summer, if chassis design finalized, when to expect 2nd deposit etc. Thanks!

Hi Deanna, I hope you and Alan are well!  We are almost into October. Any news on the Star Killer Trailer Concept run?  We looking at getting these this year?

Thank you.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on October 14, 2017, 02:46:30 PM
We are working on it.  I hope to have them start shipping by the end of the year.  It will depend on how long the machining takes on the chassis.  I am hoping to have them in hand by early December but I am in the queue.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on October 17, 2017, 02:39:36 PM
Ok, thank you. Make it the most EPIC  TFU II trailer concept saber ever and I'm sure everyone will be fine with the wait, lol!

MTFBWY.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on December 06, 2017, 07:35:42 AM
Happy Holidays Deanna and Alan.  Any updates?  Also, in a recent video I saw  Alan being interviewed at a comic con, he said that VV offers acid aged weathering. Is this something we can discuss for the TFU II trailer concept run?

Thank you and MTFBWY.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Green Ranger on December 06, 2017, 08:14:19 PM
Its been a long time. But I'm glad to see your company still kicking sabers out. Good job. Top notch.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: SharkyMcShark on December 06, 2017, 08:54:14 PM
Happy Holidays Deanna and Alan.  Any updates?  Also, in a recent video I saw  Alan being interviewed at a comic con, he said that VV offers acid aged weathering. Is this something we can discuss for the TFU II trailer concept run?

Thank you and MTFBWY.

The last estimate for completion was that shipping was to start in September 2017. That was given after the previous estimate (Summer 2017) came and went.


Last we were told the TFU2 run had now been placed behind the upcoming TFU1 run because the chassis still needed to be designed and they wanted to try out a few of the TFU2 ideas on the TFU1 run.


As for when we'll see the TFU1s, they've been "about 2 weeks away" since December last year if you follow VV's posts on their community Facebook page, so your guess is as good as mine. I would be shocked (in a positive way) to see the TFU1s in 2017 given that another movie is about to drop, and given that the TFU2s have been placed in the queue behind the TFU1s I wouldn't expect any movement on this run for months.

It seems thatthe TFU2s have joined the TFU1, Slothfurnace collaboration, Kylo Ren replica + original crossguard, and replica armour in a long backlog of stuff that VV has been talking about for 18+ months but hasn't seen the light of day for whatever reason.

I don't work for VV so can't speak to the acid aged weather question.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on December 08, 2017, 09:38:32 AM
Happy Holidays Deanna and Alan.  Any updates?  Also, in a recent video I saw  Alan being interviewed at a comic con, he said that VV offers acid aged weathering. Is this something we can discuss for the TFU II trailer concept run?

Thank you and MTFBWY.

The last estimate for completion was that shipping was to start in September 2017. That was given after the previous estimate (Summer 2017) came and went.


Last we were told the TFU2 run had now been placed behind the upcoming TFU1 run because the chassis still needed to be designed and they wanted to try out a few of the TFU2 ideas on the TFU1 run.


As for when we'll see the TFU1s, they've been "about 2 weeks away" since December last year if you follow VV's posts on their community Facebook page, so your guess is as good as mine. I would be shocked (in a positive way) to see the TFU1s in 2017 given that another movie is about to drop, and given that the TFU2s have been placed in the queue behind the TFU1s I wouldn't expect any movement on this run for months.

It seems thatthe TFU2s have joined the TFU1, Slothfurnace collaboration, Kylo Ren replica + original crossguard, and replica armour in a long backlog of stuff that VV has been talking about for 18+ months but hasn't seen the light of day for whatever reason.

I don't work for VV so can't speak to the acid aged weather question.

Sithslayer1 I got your message.  The weathering we do is an acid weathering, the chemicals used are acid.  I will reach out to you before doing your weathering to discuss specifics to make sure we are on the same page.

Sharky, are you on this run?  If so and you would like a refund on your deposit please contact me.  Otherwise, it is impolite to comment on a run in which you are not a part of.  Or make aspersions to time frames.  We have offered the same to every single person on this run.  Folks who are still waiting are waiting because they know the end result is going to be spectacular.  And, it is.  Those who do not wish to wait can contact me, I am happy to refund your deposits on this run since it is way overdue.

This was a very limited run of 30 pieces that has been fraught with complications.  Most recently we parted ways with the engineer we brought on board in no large part because of issues in the chassis design that he was partially brought on to take care of.  So, unfortunately, I am having my machine shop fix the CAD issues so that they can finish production on the chassis and we can finally put this run to rest. 

This is a very special reveal chassis inside a saber that has some exterior accuracy details that to my knowledge have never been seen on a TFUII replica before which is why we have not posted pics or reveals.  I want to keep it close until they are shipping.  These are awesome, collectible pieces and I am really excited to be sharing them.

As for the Slothfurnace collaboration, we have been working closely with Sloth to make sure what we are producing accurately represents not only the Derelict saber, but also the awesome style of reveals that he is known for.  Collaborations like that take time. The replica armor is waiting for two last molds to be produced and then it will launch, hopefully early next year.  The Kylo we are working on a Parks version and I am waiting for them to arrive, they are overdue, the original Kylo is in progress but backseated to some other projects since Phoenix Props was doing their version and we felt no need to drop ours at the same time.  Our original crossguard is coming early spring. 

Perhaps you do not understand how production works with a small shop?  There is a limited amount of capital that has to be juggled for each project.  There is no way to do everything all at once unless you somehow have outside funding, which we do not.  We also, no longer take deposits on runs prior to production, so we are not "leveraging your money" like many other people doing runs are doing.  They are not putting their own money in, they are using yours to fund their runs.  WE have decided we do not want to do business that way and we produce the product first (The TFUII was an exception as it was a past run from a few years back now).  Once we have the product in hand then we are comfortable putting them up for sale.  We chose to do things this way as we have watched so many smiths fail in the hobby by getting overloaded, spending the deposit money, then running into financial crisis or health issues and not be able to fulfill their orders.  We do not want this to happen to us so we made a decision a couple of years ago to primarily close the custom log until the lion's share of orders are fulfilled, no longer take any more than a 10% deposit on customs, and not accept deposits on runs at all anymore at least for the forseeable future.  The upcoming TFUIs we have everything in house, when they go up for sale payment will be in full on the website like any other product and we will begin building them out immediately.  Target is that all ship in 6 months or less. When we finally get these chassis for the TFUIIs, the second deposit will be due at that time, we will build them out and collect that last two installments when they are ready to ship.  That is the last run happening that way for us as it has been a humbling learning experience and one we do not wish to repeat.  Hopefully this offers you some insight.
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Post by: sithslayer1 on December 08, 2017, 11:18:05 AM
Thank you Deanna, that sounds fine. I look forward to covering specifics on the acid aged weathering when it's time.

Thank you and MTFBWY.
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on January 29, 2018, 10:23:20 AM
Quick (sort of) update.  Finalizing the chassis design which had to be completely redone due to the incompetent engineer we had the misfortune to hire.  We are just checking final measurements and consulting with the machine shop.  It should be in production within the next couple of weeks.  I hope for an end of March delivery.  As soon as I get the OK from the machine shop that chassis are ready for pick up I will send out notice for that next deposit, so figure sometime in March for that payment request. 

We will then pick them up and start immediate installs.  Good news, they will all be coming with the new CF9  :grin:.

I know it has been a very long haul and we have said more than once that it was going to be ready soon.  I have not, in my entire career in this hobby, seen such a comedy of errors as has happened with this run.  I don't know why there have been so many issues and I wish they had not occured.

What I can tell you, is that the hilt was exquisitely manufactured by Orbital.  He did a wonderful job.  The new Crystal Focus 9 is an awesome board to drive these beautiful pieces, and the chassis we designed will more than do justice to the hilt.  This will be a high end collectible deserving of a top spot in any discerning collector's collection.

AGAIN, I realize it has been a long wait.  We are finally getting close.  BUT if you feel that you cannot wait any longer, please reach out to me and we will happily refund your deposit no hard feelings.  We do not want people to feel in any way like they are being held captive.  We have made this offer before but I want to reiterate it so that it is clear.  The run has gone on a long time.  We are sorry that has been the case but we are committed to seeing it through and making sure these are the best TFUII run sabers out there, and trust me since we announced this run there are some hard acts to follow :cheesy:.

Please if you have any questions at all reach out to me!
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Post by: sithslayer1 on January 29, 2018, 01:57:09 PM
Thanks for the update Deanna. Can't wait to see the finished product!


MTFBWY.
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Post by: Pfockerchief on January 31, 2018, 03:14:00 PM
Good news.  Time to finally see this saber come to fruition.
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Post by: shardan501 on February 09, 2018, 09:15:22 PM
YAY! :grin:
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Post by: MACE WINDU on February 10, 2018, 09:08:18 AM
Woohoo!
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Post by: onigiri34 on February 12, 2018, 10:57:43 PM
So with all this, and new tech, such as CF9, are we also looking at NEOPIXELs then versus tri-cree options too?
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Post by: Morannon on February 13, 2018, 01:22:38 PM
So with all this, and new tech, such as CF9, are we also looking at NEOPIXELs then versus tri-cree options too?

CF9 doesn't have the option for neopixel, as Erv is working on a new CF-LS
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on March 15, 2018, 09:18:54 AM
I thought I answered this.  This run will not come with Neopixel.  In the event that a CF which supports neopixel is available in the next month or so then we can re-evaluate but our plan is to install them as soon as we get the chassis from the shop. However, of course we will use the CF9, the awesome new CF which was just released a couple of months ago :smiley:.

Unfortunately, the chassis manufacturing is slow going.  As you all know it had to be completely redone as the previous engineer did crap work.  The good news is the new one is even better and is with the machine shop now and has been for several weeks so hopefully we will be hearing good news soon :).
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Post by: Darth Hulk on April 01, 2018, 09:07:58 PM
So - do we think that final payments will be due within the next 3 months? Very interested in the TFU1 saber, but underestimated pricepoint by... a bit. So if will have to pay last $1200 of this run in the next 3 months would be nice to know as I'll probably have to skip it and go for a custom Wrath or Rev-N (or both) instead.

Thanks!
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on April 02, 2018, 08:20:00 AM
I do not want to commit to 3 months.  The machining alone is likely to take at least that long.  We are looking at a similar but different reveal on these as we put on the TFU1 we just announced.  Due to the most recent engineering issues we had to re-engineer the whole thing because the incompetent one made it over an inch too long and several pieces were not capable of being machined in the real world due to that pesky physics.  The redesign is currently with the machine shop where they are working on final pricing for the inlays and other fun features and then it will go into production.  That is normally around 12 weeks on something like this.  Once production of the chassis is complete we will be asking for that second payment of $400.  We will then pick them up and start installs immediately.  I anticipate it will take a few weeks to get the first proto installed, always does.  Once that happens we will post a nice reveal video and start installing your guys' hilts and the remaining 50% plus shipping will be due when your hilt is complete. I would ballpark 6 months to get from here to there.  I wish I had better news but I do not want to keep saying "soon, soon" when we are past that.  What I will say is that the remaining hilts from the run that were unsold will have a price tag over $3K so the folks that are getting these on this run at the grandfathered price are getting them close to what an empty from other places costs, so your patience will be rewarded in spades.  But, again, anyone tired of waiting, PM me. We are happy to refund your deposit :smiley:.  We understand it has been way way way beyond a reasonable timeframe on these and we humbly apologize.  If I were able to do everything myself, they would have been done two years ago.  Unfortunately, no one is good at everything and so on runs of this nature there are others involved.  We will be happy when this one is behind us, believe me, but we also want it to be mind blowing to make it well and truly worth the wait and I think we will accomplish that :)
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Post by: Dragonfly1098 on April 03, 2018, 04:34:07 AM
I am definitely willing to wait.  I have deposits on two Concept Version TFUII sabers as you know.  Since I am not as technical as others regarding the sabers can we please touch base before work is done on my two sabers regarding options?  - Rob  :grin:
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Post by: onigiri34 on April 03, 2018, 10:24:48 PM
Agree on touching base, as it's been so long, technology has changed etc. And on options once designs and such are finalized
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on April 04, 2018, 05:25:04 AM
There is really nothing that can be changed at this stage in the game.  The sabers were built based on the choices folks made.  The only options available to be changed at this point are blade length and weathering.  Look at your options in the first thread, if there is something missing, let me know.  Otherwise we will be in touch for the next deposit when the machining on the chassis is done.
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Post by: Darth Hulk on August 09, 2018, 10:29:01 PM
Greetings,

Any updates?

Thanks!
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Post by: sithslayer1 on August 15, 2018, 10:14:47 AM
If you read a few posts up, Deanna said about a 6 month ETA from early April, so we are looking at October possibly.
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on August 28, 2018, 02:52:02 PM
Chassis parts are coming slowly but surely.  As soon as they are complete we will roll right into installs.  I will post here when that starts.
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Post by: sithslayer1 on August 30, 2018, 05:22:16 PM
Thanks Deanna. I am aware that you have a lot going on, so thank you for the update.
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Post by: GSXMatt on October 27, 2018, 06:53:18 AM
Any pictures per chance? I'd shoot you a message on Facebook but I see you guys are pretty busy with the Flex run.
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Post by: Pfockerchief on April 05, 2019, 05:44:34 AM
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on April 07, 2019, 10:32:15 AM
So this is where I am just going to say I am saddened by your comment.  You are very well aware of what is going on as you are in my FB PM box constantly.

YES we know the run has gone on a long time.  YES it sucks.  YES the wait is LONG. YES that is on us.

HOWEVER, we have REPEATEDLY offered refunds to everyone on this run for their 25% deposit paid.  Almost NO ONE has taken us up on it.

I just buried my grandson after a year long fight with Leukemia.  YOU KNOW THAT!  Why in the world would you think it is ok or somehow funny to harass someone who has been going through this?

Because of that situation the past year has seen some loss of focus and some times where things were pretty overwhelming.  We haven't necessarily been able to push things as quickly as we normally would and haven't been as involved with things like the soundboard development, etc. Luckily we are very fortunate to also have a very capable team who has stepped up during times where we were distracted. This has resulted in a net gain of several weeks for us. Most Combat Class are currently in the 12-16 week range down from 16-22. For those who weren't following he was diagnosed at 4 months old and fought and fought and fought.  In the end though he contracted a fungal infection in the hospital and because he had no immune system from all the chemo there was nothing that could be done.  It has been devastating to our family, to my son and his fiance, and to everyone who knew them.  No child should have to go through what he did.

We haven't gone anywhere, we haven't ghosted, anyone who has asked for an update has received one. IF we had disappeared into the ether taking folks money with us like so many in the community today THEN I could understand the harassment.  But this is not the case.  We are committed to getting any outstanding obligations we have taken care of one way or another. 

Instead of just cancelling the run, refunding everyone, and then building them out our leisure and selling them for 3 times the run cost (what they are worth at today's value), we have worked our butt off with machinists, anodizers, etc. as well as working with Plecter on the new board to ensure we can finish this run off on a high note.

I am going to say this one more time.  If you are tired of waiting, TAKE THE REFUND.

As I mentioned to you numerous times in your PM box and alluded to everyone else, we are waiting on CFX.  When the footprint is finalized 100%, I need to THEN finish up the chassis.  Once that happens and we have the new boards in hand and tested THEN installs will start.  I cannot make the board go any faster.  I thought we would have it by the holidays but it didn't turn out that way.  There is a lot to it.  It is pretty freaking awesome so far but not complete.  Soon tm. In case you are confused, we do not make the boards. 

ANYONE ELSE: If you are not on this run, do not comment in this thread.  In fact, constantly poking at us and posting it wherever you can is simply harassment and, frankly, other than folks on this run, NO ONE CARES! It just makes you look like a jerk and only gets you attention with a few childish people.  I am referring to you Nick Cline and any other childish immature person out there who thinks it is funny to harass someone to try to earn brownie points at others' expense.

For those in the back, the run has gone on long however full refunds have been offered repeatedly since relatively early on for anyone on the run.  We are not "holding people's funds captive" as some have poked at.  We only ever took a 25% deposit and have refused further requests from people to pay more towards their balance.  Anyone who is on this run is on it voluntarily.  NO ONE wants a run to go on this long, MOST SPECIFICALLY a MANUFACTURER who has more capital tied up in the run than the entire end cost of the run, let alone the 25% deposit.  We would LOVE to get out from under it but we are committed to providing the product promised to our loyal fans and we are committed to providing it at the same cost that we offered it for 5 years ago even though we are VERY upside down between materials costs, R&D and multiple changes.   To be clear there will very possibly be a couple of upgrade options which will have a cost if people select them, but the original options chosen will be provided at the original costs quoted.  Obviously with new applicable tech. This is our reward to our customers for their loyalty.  To provide the finest TFFUII Starkiller ever produced at the costs originally quoted.  If that does not work for you and you are on the run please PM me and we will make arrangements for your refund.  EDIT please understand VV will not honor spots sold since we made the refund offer so please do not sell your spot as we will not honor the transfer.  If you want a refund contact us directly and we will be happy to oblige.

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Post by: Brad1981 on April 07, 2019, 05:43:05 PM
I know you said not to comment in this thread if we weren't in the queue for this saber.  However, I have to break that request and say that I am terribly sorry for the loss of your grandson. 

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Post by: sithslayer1 on June 08, 2019, 08:11:07 AM
Hi Luminara,

Any update at this time? Are we looking at a firm 2019 completion/shipping time frame?

Thanks again.
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on June 09, 2019, 10:25:22 PM
Sithslayer1 please see my most recent post. 
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Post by: sithslayer1 on June 10, 2019, 10:44:02 AM
Read and understood.

Thank you Luminara.
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on July 08, 2019, 12:36:37 PM
OK guys, the announcement came sooner than we expected and we are now inundated with messages, questions, and also changes to our product lines.  Please stay tuned to our FB/Youtube for big announcements from VV in the next 24/48 :). 

Please give me a couple of days to get through everything and I will be providing an update here and PMs to everyone on the run  :azn:.  I hope that the forthcoming news will make everyone happy.

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Post by: Darth Smorgis on July 08, 2019, 05:56:01 PM
Happy Indeed!!
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Post by: sithslayer1 on July 09, 2019, 10:46:50 AM
Thank you Deanna and Alan! Looking forward to the announcement.
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Post by: sithslayer1 on July 11, 2019, 09:51:35 AM
OK guys, the announcement came sooner than we expected and we are now inundated with messages, questions, and also changes to our product lines.  Please stay tuned to our FB/Youtube for big announcements from VV in the next 24/48 :). 

Please give me a couple of days to get through everything and I will be providing an update here and PMs to everyone on the run  :azn:.  I hope that the forthcoming news will make everyone happy.

Deanna,
With the new CF 10 CFX with smooth swing, will all current fonts from Saberfont.com work, or only new optimized fonts? I saw Rob's (Madcow's video) this am, and I believe he said fonts optimized for smooth swing only, or did I misunderstand?
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Post by: Link on July 11, 2019, 10:14:16 AM
As far as (I'm aware) All fonts for plecter on Saberfont should work just fine.

If i need to be corrected, I'm sure the right folks will chime in :)
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Post by: K-2SO on July 11, 2019, 01:21:32 PM
OK guys, the announcement came sooner than we expected and we are now inundated with messages, questions, and also changes to our product lines.  Please stay tuned to our FB/Youtube for big announcements from VV in the next 24/48 :). 

Please give me a couple of days to get through everything and I will be providing an update here and PMs to everyone on the run  :azn:.  I hope that the forthcoming news will make everyone happy.

Deanna,
With the new CF 10 CFX with smooth swing, will all current fonts from Saberfont.com work, or only new optimized fonts? I saw Rob's (Madcow's video) this am, and I believe he said fonts optimized for smooth swing only, or did I misunderstand?

They’ll work, they just won’t be “smoothswing”. You’ll only get the “smoothswing effect” from “smoothswing” fonts
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Post by: sithslayer1 on July 11, 2019, 02:15:21 PM
Got it, thanks, Hopefully our great font makers will soon start to optimize their fonts for smooth swing..
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Post by: K-2SO on July 11, 2019, 02:38:58 PM
I’m sure most will, it’ll just take time. Especially since the boards aren’t publicly available yet.
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Post by: Link on July 11, 2019, 03:35:49 PM
I won't be updating old fonts. But all my new fonts will be optimized for CFX (with Smooth Swing) , NEC with Real Swing and Proffie with Smooth Swing. :)
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Post by: Pfockerchief on July 30, 2019, 07:11:46 PM
Have PMs been provided to the run participants here?
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Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on July 30, 2019, 08:30:08 PM
No they have not.  CFX has not released yet.  However PMs should go out within the next week.  I had intended to get them out sooner but with SDCC and TSL4 and a huge influx of messages I have been a bit behind.  I apologize. 
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Post by: sithslayer1 on August 02, 2019, 02:29:04 PM
No worries Deanna, looking forward to your PM!  I watched the latest VV video Alan posted with details on the new CFX, I think the extended wait time on this run has been a blessing in disguise! I can't wait to see this in person and experience the latest, greatest tech available!

Will any pics of the TFU 2 saber be released soon?

Thanks again.

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Post by: sithslayer1 on August 15, 2019, 06:42:14 AM
No they have not.  CFX has not released yet.  However PMs should go out within the next week.  I had intended to get them out sooner but with SDCC and TSL4 and a huge influx of messages I have been a bit behind.  I apologize.

Hi Luminara,

Is there an official CFX release date yet? I know August, but do we have more specifics?

Thank you.
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Post by: Pfockerchief on August 20, 2019, 07:38:49 PM
No they have not.  CFX has not released yet.  However PMs should go out within the next week.  I had intended to get them out sooner but with SDCC and TSL4 and a huge influx of messages I have been a bit behind.  I apologize.

Awesome ok!
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Post by: Darth Smorgis on August 22, 2019, 01:40:20 PM
I believe CF-X has officially been released.  Let the good times roll.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on August 24, 2019, 08:59:31 AM
It just released on August 22.  We are working on the chassis as, again, had to be redone to accommodate.  I have not yet sent the pms but I am working on them.  May as well let the cat out, everyone on the run is being offered the ability to upgrade to neopixel at no additional charge as a thank you for years of support.  You do not HAVE to take the upgrade, if you really want in hilt led we will build it out with a TriCree but with the current capabilities of the cFX we feel neopixel is really the thing to show it off to its best capabilities.

I would also like to reiterate the offer I have made dozens of times over the past few years, anyone on this run who wants a refund on their deposit, please contact me.  We are happy to provide it.  These are going to be complex to install.  I hope to have chassis finalized in the next 2-3 months and get the builds done by the end of the year.  It has been a long haul.  We know this and feel the pain.  So again, anyone just sick and tired of waiting, we completely understand, reach out to me and we are happy to refund your deposit with no hard feelings.

Everyone else, your PM is forthcoming.  I know I am several weeks late on it but really wanted a final board footprint so I could try to estimate time to get the chassis modified and redone.



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Post by: onigiri34 on August 25, 2019, 06:51:26 AM
Sounds cool, that's much appreciated with the Neopixel and Blade upgrade. Doing customer service right given the time. CFX was really made for this. Excited to see the Crystal Reveal, biggest crystal ever haha, whenever it is ready. Still happy I am a part of this run and look forward to the end of year :)
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on August 27, 2019, 11:01:29 AM
It just released on August 22.  We are working on the chassis as, again, had to be redone to accommodate.  I have not yet sent the pms but I am working on them.  May as well let the cat out, everyone on the run is being offered the ability to upgrade to neopixel at no additional charge as a thank you for years of support.  You do not HAVE to take the upgrade, if you really want in hilt led we will build it out with a TriCree but with the current capabilities of the cFX we feel neopixel is really the thing to show it off to its best capabilities.
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Hi Luminara, that is an incredible upgrade offer and it is very much appreciated! On the free Neopixel at no additional cost, will the blade also be included at no charge? If so, I assume in your Pm to the run members that we can request a blade length?

Thank you.


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Post by: Darth Hulk on September 12, 2019, 10:25:37 AM
Very nice! Excited to give the next installment in the near future.

Hopefully you will post once PMs have been sent to make sure we get them.

thanks!
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Post by: Pfockerchief on September 20, 2019, 03:42:20 PM
Super duper awesome.  Can't wait to finally receive these this year!!  Epicness!!
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Post by: Pfockerchief on November 08, 2019, 01:58:06 AM
Assume no one has received PMs?
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Post by: Darth Smorgis on November 08, 2019, 03:32:51 AM
Assume no one has received PMs?

No Sir.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on November 08, 2019, 05:34:33 AM
PMs have not gone out.  Same situation.  We lost our machinist AGAIN and have hired a new one.  With CFX chassis needed a complete re-engineer, and the re-engineered designs are currently out with a machinist waiting our turn AGAIN.  If our new in house guy gets up to speed before "our turn" we will work them in house but it is a complex design to throw at a new guy so we are trying to cover all bases to get these done as quickly as possible to put this to rest.  If you do not want to wait anymore Pfockerchief, AGAIN, please contact me for a refund.  This goes for anyone else on this run.  This is the same offer that I have made so many multiple times. 

Just to give you a head's up, in the past year and a half, I lost my grandmother who was a mother to me, my infant grandson passed after a year long battle with Leukemia, Alan broke his foot, I have health issues and had exploratory surgery three weeks ago, and my grandfather passed two weeks ago (again he was a father to me).  Life has been unfairly difficult.  However we keep plugging ahead, we have not gone anywhere and we are moving forward on all projects.

Thing is, I can't handle any more stress than I already have.  This run has gone stupidly long.  It is a personal embarrassment and it is a stress every single day,  I have offered multiple times, refunds for the 25% deposit that you paid.  If you cannot wait, please take the refund.  These types of "do we have PMs" posts are not helpful as they add more stress into an already stressful situation.

Before accusations fly, I am not looking for sympathy.  We have obligations and we intend to fulfill them, unlike many others in the industry who take the money and run that is NOT us.  We are here for the long term.  This particular run was just cursed with a comedy of errors.  It has been one thing after another FOR YEARS.  Refunds have also been offered, for years.  I assume anyone still on the run, which is almost everyone, still wants their sabers and we intend to deliver them.  HOWEVER, if you cannot wait any longer WE UNDERSTAND.  TAKE THE REFUND.  Don't add to the stress.  Putting more stress into an already stressful situation slows things down, not speeds things up.  It is paralyzing.  Please, for the love of God, if you feel you cannot wait, TAKE THE REFUND. 

To everyone who has waited patiently over the years, all I can say is I am sorry.  This is not some deliberate withholding of your sabers.  The sabers themselves have been machined and in house for a couple of years now.  The internals are difficult and getting 35 manufactured to specs has proven to be much more of a challenge than I ever anticipated.  With multiple hardware changes in between we just keep getting screwed with this.  We are so far in the red now that it is a joke.  However, again, it is a matter of pride.  We are committed to getting it finished and done the right way.  I love our design, even with all the wonderful versions that have come out since then I still feel it is definitive and will be a centerpiece to your collections.

So, in closing,  PMs have not gone out.  I was hoping to have chassis in hand to be able to have something exciting to share as well as collect the second 25% but that is not where we are.  Probably looking at after the holidays now for that which is not what any of us want to hear but I would rather be straight up with you, as I always am, in case you decide it is finally time to ask for a refund.  The chassis HAS been re-engineered and is retaining some of the pieces that were already manufactured so that should at least help move things along.  It is a multi metal machined chassis (no 3D printed garbage) that is classy and detailed.  It is a beautiful reveal to reside inside beautiful sabers when it is complete.  I promise literally the DAY I have chassis in my hot little hands we will be installing these and getting them out to those still on the run.  Anyone who has had enough, please PM me, happy to refund.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Pfockerchief on November 08, 2019, 11:02:45 AM
I was just simply asking Deanna that's it.  No harm no foul.  No I dont want a refund as I've waited this long I'll wait longer.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on November 13, 2019, 09:07:27 AM
Dear Deanna & Alan,
I'm sure revealing so much of the pain in your personal lives was very difficult and I think your incredibly brave to share that! I'm sure I speak for many on this waiting list that while the wait has been a long one, your personal lives, & what you have endured is so much more important in the grand scheme of things vs a little cool flash light we've been waiting for!

Please take care of yourselves and your loved ones! When their ready, their ready and the sabers will be epic, I have no doubt!

MTFBWY.



Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: msasin on September 12, 2020, 11:54:48 PM
Hi,

Are there any updates on the run?
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on September 14, 2020, 10:27:50 AM
There are, I was really hoping to wait until we had the last few bits to give an update, but since you asked: things are finally moving full speed ahead  :cheesy:.  As you know, we had to have the chassis re-engineered several times.  This last time due to the new CFX.  We sent the chassis out for production late last year but, due to Covid, only just finally received them.  In the meantime, we needed them for final fitment to order all the greeblies which are now in progress.  I anticipate those to take several weeks.  Once they arrive, we will be able to finally finish up this run.  The good news is we are definitely on the home stretch, we have almost everything we need and are starting partial installs.  We are doing everything we can now to prepare for when the greeblies arrive so the final installs are just finishing up and getting the aesthetics on the exterior like leather wraps and weathering done.  So target is to have most sabers in folks hands by the end of the year or early next. That means that full payment will be due prior to shipping. If anyone has special circumstances they need to discuss please reach out to me directly.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: msasin on September 14, 2020, 10:08:46 PM
There are, I was really hoping to wait until we had the last few bits to give an update, but since you asked: things are finally moving full speed ahead  :cheesy:.  As you know, we had to have the chassis re-engineered several times.  This last time due to the new CFX.  We sent the chassis out for production late last year but, due to Covid, only just finally received them.  In the meantime, we needed them for final fitment to order all the greeblies which are now in progress.  I anticipate those to take several weeks.  Once they arrive, we will be able to finally finish up this run.  The good news is we are definitely on the home stretch, we have almost everything we need and are starting partial installs.  We are doing everything we can now to prepare for when the greeblies arrive so the final installs are just finishing up and getting the aesthetics on the exterior like leather wraps and weathering done.  So target is to have most sabers in folks hands by the end of the year or early next. That means that full payment will be due prior to shipping. If anyone has special circumstances they need to discuss please reach out to me directly.

Thank you very much for the update Lumi. I'm sure things has not been easy due to the current situation but this is a really great news. Looking forward to seeing them.  :azn:
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on September 17, 2020, 10:19:03 AM
Thank you for the update Luminara. If we want to get special acid weathering to make the saber look more aged, worn, is that an option we can discuss?

Thank you.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: shardan501 on October 24, 2020, 10:20:35 PM
so glad to hear this bit of welcome news :D  there are no words to describe exactly how excited i am for these sabers :D
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Hulk on November 22, 2020, 12:50:17 PM
Such wonderful news! Please post when you send out invoices so we know we haven't missed it.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Dragonfly1098 on November 27, 2020, 08:15:45 AM
This really is amazing news!  Luminara was hoping to talk through my two TFUII builds since it's been awhile and the front page does not show any specifics for my 2 sabers on order.  Very excited for this...!  Thank you!
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on November 27, 2020, 06:59:04 PM
Darth Hulk we are probably just going to send out final invoices upon completion.  I will post here when that happens just in case people do not check their PM boxes. 

To update again, still no greeblies but they are with the manufacturer. I do anticipate at this point it will be close to the holiday or shortly after that we receive those.  Once I have them in hand we will immediately move forward getting these finished up.  I will post here when they arrive.

Dragonfly, I believe we have spoken about your selections.  However, send a PM here with your selections again and I will update the front page.

Sithslayer, we can discuss special weathering, but even our regular weathering is an acid based treatment.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Dragonfly1098 on December 01, 2020, 04:34:37 AM

"Dragonfly, I believe we have spoken about your selections.  However, send a PM here with your selections again and I will update the front page."

Luminari - PM sent.  Thank you.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on March 29, 2021, 02:25:33 PM
Hi Deanna, Alan,

Any update on this run?

Thank you and MTFBWY.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: onigiri34 on August 07, 2021, 02:56:16 AM
Checking in on this one as well, any updates, beyond mid-2021 :)
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on August 07, 2021, 06:10:16 PM
We have built out the first one to check fitment, identified process issues and are working on corrections as we work on the next one.  Due to the nature of this run and the fact that technology has changed SIGNIFICANTLY since the run started, there are minor adustments and process changes that need to occur to finish everything efficiently and with the quality and professionalism we are known for.  Keep in mind the entire chassis has been redone several times and some of the original engineering did not anticipate the form factors and wiring requirements for today's tech.

Once we finish out the cosmetics on that first one, we will post pics but with MegaCon next week, it will probably not be until the end of the month.

These are VERY time consuming so these are not going to be an overnight thing.  I anticipate the first couple will be ready to ship in the next 6-8 weeks or so and then slowly roll out throughout the remainder of this year/early next.  I will be in touch with folks as their sabers get close to completion.

I will reiterate the offer that we have mentioned dozens of times, anyone who is tired of waiting, please contact me either here or at the shop at 470-839-2551 or by Facebook Messenger - Deanna Johnson, and I am happy to send it along no questions asked.

I do appreciate everyone's patience for all these long years.  This run has been way too long and I cannot apologize enough.  I am surprised and honored that everyone chose to hang on and we will do our very best to not let you down and provide a stunning end product worthy of any high end collection!

May the Force Be With You All!

Lumi
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: shardan501 on August 07, 2021, 09:08:39 PM
NGL, I squee'd in the middle of playing Diablo 3 with my family lol. so excited for the news :D
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on August 19, 2021, 02:08:55 PM
Thank you for the update Deanna!

I can't wait to see this come to fruition! I'm sure it will be epic and I look forward to hearing from you as it gets closer.

Best to you, Alan and the VV team.

MTFBWY
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Pfockerchief on August 21, 2021, 05:47:40 AM
Thanks for the update.  Deanna please post pictures on thus thread of the first finished hilt.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Smorgis on August 21, 2021, 06:31:08 AM
I would love to finally see some teaser pics at minimum as well. 
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on August 22, 2021, 09:32:16 AM
Agreed on a teaser pic when you can guys! Especially in a med-heavy weathered version, if you please.

MTFBWY.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Pfockerchief on October 12, 2021, 06:28:01 PM
Anybody on the run receive the saber here?  Would appreciate pictures.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: onigiri34 on October 13, 2021, 01:18:43 AM
Nope, not yet, no news.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: SharkyMcShark on October 14, 2021, 12:11:28 AM
I'd imagine there are a few in the run hanging on for resale value at this point.

VV have said that they're going to be selling spares for triple the original run price.

Not much sense in getting your $400 deposit back when you could be making a $3000 profit by selling it on yourself once its in your hands.

I've got an agreement to purchase one of the hilts for a price in a mid point of that from one of the run members. Can't wait to see them all done up.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on October 15, 2021, 09:09:37 AM
I have dealt many times with VV over the years, and Alan and Deanna are good people! I am also frustrated by the long wait, but very hopeful that the saber will be worth the wait!

I own "Modi" which is in the VV saber gallery on their website and the top half has a TFU trailer design that was done by Orbital Machining and it is still among my most prized hilts, so I trust that VV will deliver an amazing saber!
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on October 18, 2021, 12:30:35 PM
Pictures will be posted when I have them to post.  Obviously no one has received their sabers, we would have made an announcement if they had been.  I am very sorry  :cry:. I get that people are frustrated.  Again, please take the refund if you are not wanting to wait any longer as we are doing everything we can to move this forward but also have staffing issues, supply chain issues, and other projects.  This particular saber is a very very involved install and we are still having some growing pains with it. The original design was made for We are working out the process issues we had with the first one and moving forward.  As mentioned in the previous post we had Megacon and then, unfortunately, had to roll right into NYCC.  We have a dearth of time right now.  We are juggling a million things. This project is definitely one of those projects on the current plate and we are working to get through it.  I know the length of time it has been.  I wish I could say they are all going to be done tomorrow, but they are not.  And likely while a couple may be done before the end of the year, the run is not going to be.  I wish I had better news but I just do not.  I am just going to continue to plug away and get them done as soon as we can.

MTFBWY
Lumi
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: shardan501 on October 18, 2021, 01:51:59 PM
I for one don't mind the wait. I knew when I first started looking at lightsabers I was probably going to go with Vader's Vault for at least my first one. Then you folks announced you were doing this run and I had to get in on it.  It might be a minority opinion, but I would rather you took the time needed in order to meet the standard of quality you guys are known for, than to do a rush job simply for the sake of finishing the run.

MTFBWY
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on October 22, 2021, 12:25:54 PM
Thank you for the update Deanna.

I plan to wait and look forward to this saber being Epic!

MTFBWY.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on November 18, 2021, 10:46:06 AM
Another update and I know it is not going to be a happy one for anyone.  These are not shipping this year.  I thought the one that was successfully installed was going to be a benchmark, but upon working on subsequent hilts, a major issue showed up that has to be corrected resulting in one piece of the chassis having to be remade, again  :cry:.  With manufacturing lengths of time right now, that is going to add at least a couple of months and there is absolutely nothing I can do about it.  I will update again once we have it in hand.  I am so sorry folks, I was really hoping to have at least the first few shipping before the holiday but after this length of time I am not going to move forward with something I know is going to have issues.  Today's electronics just require a ton more wires than in the past so it is a real issue getting everything to fit and function based on our vision. 

Again, I cannot apologize enough for all of the delays and the length of time this has taken. It is only out of sheer stubborness that I did not cancel the run long ago.  The frustration is that everything is gorgeous.  It is just getting everything to gel perfectly so that the final product is as functionally beautiful as it is aesthetically that has given ongoing fits. 

As mentioned since early on, anyone desiring a refund, please message me. Happy to get it right over to you. Otherwise I will be back here again as soon as I have more to report.  Hopefully better news with the next update :cry:.

I do want to wish you all a Happy Holiday Season!

MTFBWY
Lumi
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Scorpion on November 20, 2021, 11:50:33 AM
thats unfortunate im not on the run but have been following it, at least it will be the very best it can be once it finished.
i just realised that this project started in 2014  :shocked:
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on November 24, 2021, 08:51:18 AM
Thank you for the update Deanna.

I hope you, Alan and your family have a happy & healthy Thanks Giving!

MTFBWY.

Howard
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on March 09, 2022, 01:48:19 PM
Another update and I know it is not going to be a happy one for anyone.  These are not shipping this year.  I thought the one that was successfully installed was going to be a benchmark, but upon working on subsequent hilts, a major issue showed up that has to be corrected resulting in one piece of the chassis having to be remade, again  :cry:.  With manufacturing lengths of time right now, that is going to add at least a couple of months and there is absolutely nothing I can do about it.  I will update again once we have it in hand.  I am so sorry folks, I was really hoping to have at least the first few shipping before the holiday but after this length of time I am not going to move forward with something I know is going to have issues.  Today's electronics just require a ton more wires than in the past so it is a real issue getting everything to fit and function based on our vision. 

Again, I cannot apologize enough for all of the delays and the length of time this has taken. It is only out of sheer stubborness that I did not cancel the run long ago.  The frustration is that everything is gorgeous.  It is just getting everything to gel perfectly so that the final product is as functionally beautiful as it is aesthetically that has given ongoing fits. 

As mentioned since early on, anyone desiring a refund, please message me. Happy to get it right over to you. Otherwise I will be back here again as soon as I have more to report.  Hopefully better news with the next update :cry:.

I do want to wish you all a Happy Holiday Season!

MTFBWY
Lumi




Hi Deanna,  Hope all's well with you and the VV family! Just wanted to see if you have any updates at all?

Thank you,
Howard
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on March 16, 2022, 12:03:22 PM
I do not.  We are in the process of attempting to either remake one piece or some up with a different electronics routing solution.  I will post here when they start moving. 

Again, anyone who would like a refund of their deposit, please let me know via PM :).  We are doing the best we can to continue moving these forward as soon as possible.  I will post here when I have an update.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on March 18, 2022, 08:39:51 AM
Thank you Deanna, appreciate the update.

MTFBWY,
Howard
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Pfockerchief on May 29, 2022, 01:41:00 PM
For those still on this run shoot me a PM please.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on May 30, 2022, 08:23:01 AM
Instead of causing even more issues why not just take the refund Pfockerchief? We have been offering everyone on the run a refund for years.  I am not coercing anyone to stick it out and I am not just sitting here ignoring it.  We work on it as much as we can throughout everything else. We are completely overloaded and stressed to the limit.  Running a business during the pandemic has been extremely difficult.  Staffing and supply chain issues have made this impossible and just because the perception is that the pandemic is over that doesn't flip some imaginary switch.  Staffing issues are worse if possible than I have ever seen in almost 40 years of being in some sort of management, and supply chain issues make things extraordinarily difficult.  Accelerometers, processors, bluetooth boards, leds, batteries have all had challenges either currently or in the past 12 months.

This particular run has been cursed.  The last chassis looked great, we did the install and realized that something was done backwards.  It looks aesthetically beautiful but is backwards for wiring and functionality. I have a potential solution but do not have the prototype yet.  At this point, I just do not know what else to do.  I have spent more on the run than the retail price I quoted you all (by quite a bit now).  And I am trying to honor that oommittment by manufacturing this at a loss to honor my word.  I have been called names and bullied throughout the process and am at a breaking point. 

Please, take the refund.  I can't make it go any quicker than it is.  I know for those who do not understand manufacturing it seems like "it is only 20 pieces, should be easy" but that is precisely why it is so difficult.  Most places will not touch a 20 piece order at any price that mortals can afford as it is simply not cost effective.  So we have been having to navigate that all this time everytime something has to be redone.  Right now almost no one is taking this type of work.  I am trying.  When this was first designed it was designed for completely different technology, a smaller battery, and we were early in our engineering prowess which is why we had to hire other engineers to design the internals.  Unfortunately since the engineer who did the externals was different than the one doing the internals, it has been very rocky.  There have been several iterations, each time utilizing expensive metals and when things do not fit properly it is not something we can just squish in and release. I apologize to everyone who is on the run.  When we first set out on this all intentions were to have it done in a year.  But the manufacturing lagged, technology marched on and we have been playing catch up trying to get the internals manufactured the way we envisioned but functional with today's technology.  We were soooo close on this last one, now it is just one part.  Unfortunately an expensive part, and I have been exploring options.  Please for anyone fed up at this point, TAKE THE REFUND.  It will not hurt my feelings in the least.  For those who still after reading this do not want the refund, I am going to have to ask that you continue to have some grace. I can't wave a wand.  There are things still not right that have to be fixed.  I cannot take the stress though.  So please, if you cannot find it in yourself at this point to wait, I get it it has been a long time.  Way too long for any run to have taken.  Please take the refund.  For those still committed, I will continue to plug away at it.

Also, one last thought, we took a small 25% deposit at the time.  It is not like we took the whole amount upfront.  We have also been offering refunds since very early on. If this is something causing you stress or anger, why hang on?  Why continue to cause stress to people just trying to make glowy flashlights to make people happy, and why continue to cause yourself stress?  What is the motivation at that point?  This small 20 piece run has caused me years of stress.  I lose sleep over it.  It was a committment I made to all of you and so I keep fighting to get it done.  Please take the refund and move on.  To those who have remained patient, I thank you from the very bottom of my heart! You guys have been wonderful. 

I am going to reiterate this ONE MORE TIME, anyone tired of waiting or just finished for any reason at all, please take the refund.  I will be checking my PM box in the next week or so, any of you feel free to PM with your Paypal address and I will get it right over upon request.

Warmest Regards,
LUMI
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Smorgis on May 30, 2022, 03:39:47 PM
To be honest Deanna, it really feels like you want us all to take the refund at this point.  This project has taken a back seat for so long and everyone on this run has been amazingly patient and allowed time.  I think we are just about done chasing false hope is the issue.  I have not spoken with anyone else about this run and am just giving my thoughts upon reading your post.  The project doesn’t seem to be cursed, just lacking any sort of focus or priority.  Clearly we still all want the saber or we wouldn’t still be hanging on to our spots, but again I feel like we are just being slowly worn down to accept the refund.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on May 30, 2022, 04:04:23 PM
I can understand why you would feel that way. At this point it would certainly be a relief as then we could finish them without feeling pressure. 

There is no lack of focus. It is constantly top of mind.  The problem though is that the wheels are turning, I can't make it go faster. Clearly if I could have I would have.

I wish it had gone differently.  But it didn't.   By the time we received the physical hilts, the internals that were designed for it were already obsolete. We had a string of bad engineering which ate up a couple of years. Then my grandson got sick and we were unable to move forward during that period. The last chassis looked and behaved well in preliminary testing and so we had the entire run internals redone at the cost of many thousands of dollars.  Unfortunately that occurred during covid by this point and it took a ridiculously long time period by the time we had them in hand we were having staffing issues I was not able to get to the installs right away. Once we did we realized that there was this issue. A part was reversed from what it should have been to be installable. I have been trying to resolve it since.

I appreciate the folks that have been patient and have stuck with us all this time period and because I gave you my word, I fully intend to finish the run for you guys. But the continued pressure, some post or thread somewhere almost every month has taken its toll. While most have been more than patient  (thank you so much) there have been a few people on the run that have been particularly difficult.  They have been abusive and difficult to deal with. That is uncalled for. You were all offered refunds. If you want to stick it out, then do so kindly and with grace. Otherwise take the refund. Sometimes when people are particularly aggressive it makes it harder for me to cut through that and focus on what I need to do. You get sort of paralyzed because you are just stressed to the limit.

What's hard for me to relate to is that after this period of time it has already been so long why not just have the grace and let me get the run finished instead of these kinds of things like oh "everybody on the run PM me". I've offered refunds for years, like literally years. We are not just hanging on to people's money with no intention of fulfilling the run and, in addition, we took a very small deposit relatively speaking  I am trying to do right and honor my word rather than just forcing refunds which I could have done a long time ago. I could have said "Hey the run is defunct we're never gonna be able to get to it here's your money back". Instead I waded in and tried to resolve it so that everybody who was on the run could have what they wanted. But I can't take any more pressure because I am doing all I can do to bring it to conclusion.   Posts like the one earlier today do make me wanna just close the run and give up. So it's really up to you folks going forward as to whether or not we're going to be able to continue. So if you all would PM me instead of PMing each other and let me know what you'd like to do that would be fantastic.

I also want to reiterate that I am greatful to those who have waited patiently and am continuing to plug away for YOU guys. The run will be completed even if everyone decides to get a refund because we just have entirely too much blood, sweat and tears as well as significant financial outlay into it to not finish.  I understand everyone is frustrated,  as am I. I do not mean to diminish in any way the ridiculous length of time it has taken or your right to be frustrated.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on May 31, 2022, 01:20:26 PM

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Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Pfockerchief on June 01, 2022, 02:58:37 PM
Deanna my simple request for PMs on the run was modest and simply meant to understand that very thing.  Ive been extremely patient waiting for the ultimate VV TFU2 saber.  I barely comment and certainly don't on FB as all.  If you somewhere believe my post was inflammatory well then all I can say...it wasn't meant to be.  Any rate....last post I'll ever make on the topic.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Scorpion on June 03, 2022, 01:23:56 PM
just a thought but why not offer these up as empties?
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: K-2SO on June 03, 2022, 07:34:47 PM
just a thought but why not offer these up as empties?

It has been well established through the years that VV DOES NOT do that.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on June 03, 2022, 08:12:39 PM
Not something that we do. We are perfectly willing to return deposits. But when they are installed, that will be by us :).
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: sithslayer1 on June 04, 2022, 07:35:54 AM
PM sent this am.

Thank you Deanna.

Best,
Howard
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Scorpion on June 04, 2022, 01:08:09 PM
just a thought but why not offer these up as empties?

It has been well established through the years that VV DOES NOT do that.

i know that but its completely different circumstances here tho mate and with all due respect thats not really for you to answer tbh,
i was thinking with people getting refunds they mite offer them to at the least cut losses,

""Not something that we do. We are perfectly willing to return deposits. But when they are installed, that will be by us :).""
no worries thanks just thought id ask..
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Hulk on May 01, 2023, 08:28:38 PM
Greetings.
Wondering if there is any update per chance? Been about a year since the last status update.
Thanks!
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: SharkyMcShark on May 03, 2023, 05:44:27 AM
Also keen to get an update. I was beginning to suspect this had shadow dropped.

Eight years past due now. It would be good to see some progress.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Pfockerchief on July 18, 2023, 04:07:46 PM
Yep way past due.  Yes yes Deanna I know I can get a refund but I don't want a refund...I simply would like the saber we all yearned for years ago.  An update would be great.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: Darth Smorgis on July 25, 2023, 12:31:10 PM
At minimum I feel like a yearly update should be common courtesy and a simple sign of respect for those of us who have been waiting patiently.  Otherwise I have to say it feels a bit neglecting of the people and project.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: RyDiddy on July 25, 2023, 01:22:03 PM
Perhaps it would be a good idea for a moderator, or Yoda himself, to intervene here and ask VV to respond to the requests for an update.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on July 25, 2023, 03:27:36 PM
People, when this request came in wr were on the road for san diego. I am driving back currently. It is a 3 day drive for me each way and a 4.5 day convention. I had intended to respond when I returned. At this point I am locking this thread. Anyone who has a question about the run who is actually on the run can send me a personal message or call the shop when I return. We are doing our very best to navigate a post COVID world with less staff and less resources. I have offered everyone on this run a refund many, many, many times. While I am committed to getting it finished, right now I am over my head and doing the very best I can. This is always extraordinarily stressful. There are 2 options. Wait until I can get it done, and it will get done, or take the refund. I am more than happy to refund deposits on this run to whoever wants one. Coming in here when you've said, first of all, that you were not going to post about this anymore, and second when you know where to find me, makes no sense. I am happy to refund you or you can continue to wait. I don't have a date because I am trying to get through everything all at once. We are shipping more than we ever have in our entire history. Things are moving. I haven't forgotten this run, I'm reminded of it constantly so even if I were to forget for 5 minutes There's not really any way to do that.I'm also not going to be held hostage when I have offered refunds repeatedly.

Smorgis, you are correct. IT is not unreasonable And I will endeavor to do better about that but I have spoken to most of you elsewhere multiple times in the last twelve months so it just seems like I am giving updates all the time, just not here :smiley: But I recognize that the folks Ive spoken to are not 100% of the folks on the run. So I will try to post here more often. Again, anyone with a question or who would like a refund please contact me via PM or call the shop later this week when I return. I am sorry, once again, that this run did not go the way any of us hoped up to this point. Hopefully those of you tired of waiting will contact me for your refunds and everyone else I will do the best I can to get you an update soon.
Title: Re: TFU II Starkiller Concept Saber "TFU-GM" Run DEPOSIT THREAD!!!
Post by: K-2SO on July 25, 2023, 03:31:12 PM
OK, an update has been given.