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Title: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Acerocket on March 03, 2013, 08:10:51 PM
OK, this thread will be the official run listing for the LEGO saber run.

Since this saber is a at a premium for internal space, I had to minimize the design features and go with a single 18650 and a Crystal Shard sound board to power the saber.  That means, I cannot just sell empty sabers and CS boards as there are strict rules that Crystal Shard affiliates must follow - one of those being no reselling of boards unless they are installed in a saber.  To that end, I have spoken to my friends in the Rebellion and we will be converting this run to an official Rebellion run.

To refresh everyone's memories, the original, non-sound version of the saber was this:

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2F100_4931.jpg&hash=7ff2f5e245daba3294ed8239d11853a244c604e2) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/100_4931.jpg)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2F100_5029.jpg&hash=970a27d362c64afe099acd4439cae9e686f943c1) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/100_5029.jpg)

The saber was redesigned on the inside while still keeping the external dimensions the same.  This is the current desgin:

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2Flego1_zpsf38a56fe.jpg&hash=a01fe7161e7c5407fe74b3949a18a600e0821bb4) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/lego1_zpsf38a56fe.jpg)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2Flego2_zps5f46f613.jpg&hash=7ff6df91289f672381896dd2e7f36dd090492da6) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/lego2_zps5f46f613.jpg)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2Flego3_zps08390010.jpg&hash=542bee5607e5cfa1afc1ae7d715c3e6d6a950388) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/lego3_zps08390010.jpg)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2Flego4_zpsf8c58303.jpg&hash=e4e8d19ccb2ad0d5ca65475448e1da7f48a1525c) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/lego4_zpsf8c58303.jpg)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2Flego5_zps165210d2.jpg&hash=53effd2405d8565362548b69c1e07eec1f9f7bee) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/lego5_zps165210d2.jpg)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2Flego6_zpsc2f55a5d.jpg&hash=1c96ceffa0a6004d986aa6e029ffeaa17fdd1333) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/lego6_zpsc2f55a5d.jpg)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2Flego7_zps77db387c.jpg&hash=6206438de38ec9c970dfa879aa259b9820b7f832) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/lego7_zps77db387c.jpg)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2Flego8_zpse47a0cca.jpg&hash=dce54e4f48a7bf4c31d914a98955723537cca2c4) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/lego8_zpse47a0cca.jpg)

There will be a strict limit of 30 sabers available on this run.  That is because of the way I have to order material and how I can cut it for machining.

There will be three levels of trim to chose for this saber.  All CS sabers will use a Tri-Rebel LED, stunts will be single die LED (P4 or equivalant).

Stunt:  Single color LED (no mixed colors - eg.  no purple or yellow) and no sound. 
CSV1:  Single or mixed color LED (like purple or yellow - within reason and the installers and I will decide if the color choice will be available) with sound.
CSC1 with FOC:  Single or mixed color LED (like purple or yellow - within reason and the installers and I will decide if the color choice will be available) with sound and with added FOC (white FOC only).

Pricing will be as follows:
A non-refundable deposit of $260.00 will be due before 12:00 PM MST on March 31, 2013.  This deposit includes the 3.5% paypal fee and shipping from me to the installer.  Your spot will not be guaranteed until your deposit is paid - your expression of interest in the other thread is not a guarantee of a saber.  Please take note of this.  Deposit must be paid to sales@orbitalmachining.com and made as a payment for goods (not a personal payment please).

Stunt trim level = $260.00 deposit + $100.00 install fee + shipping
CSV1 trim level = $260.00 deposit + $275.00 install fee + shipping
CSV1 with FOC trim level = $260.00 deposit + $345.00 install fee + shipping
(The install fees include the 3.5% paypal fee and shipping costs will be determined by your isntaller based on your address and what shipping options they will use.)


When the sabers are roughly 30 days from being shipped to installers, a second payment of 1/2 the install fee will be due to your installer prior to the time when I ship the sabers to the installers.  When the saber is installed and ready to ship, the other 1/2 install fee and shipping will be invoiced to you by your installer.

All sabers will come with one acrylic blade.  I am not supplying any 1" blades.  As before, there are six color choices for blade.
Cyan:  (https://www.coloredplastics.com/colorchart/2414Green.jpg)
Green:  (https://www.coloredplastics.com/colorchart/2092Green.jpg)
Red:  (https://www.coloredplastics.com/colorchart/2423Red.jpg)
Blue:  (https://www.coloredplastics.com/colorchart/2424Blue.jpg)
Violet:  (https://www.coloredplastics.com/colorchart/6738Violet.jpg)
Yellow:  (https://www.coloredplastics.com/colorchart/2208Yellow.jpg)

A note about blades.  I have to order the acrylic in 4' lengths and I can get 3 blades per 4' section.  I can't promise all colors will be available if the quantities don't work out well.  I will do my best to make sure everyone gets the color of their choice, but I may have to make some changes if the quantities don't work out well.  I will deal with that if necessary after the run closes and I get the final color count.

A second note about blades.  You can get extra blades in different colors if you want - each extra blade is $37.50.

LED color choice:
As mentioned before, all sabers will have tri-rebel LEDs.  All LEDs will be configured in Color-Color-White.
Stunt trim levels will be limited to cyan, green, blue and red - the white die will not be used.
CSV1 trim levels will be limited to cyan, green, blue, red, red+blue (for purple) and red+ green (for yellow) - the white die will not be used.
CSV1 with FOC will eb limited to cyan, green, blue, red, red+blue (for purple) and red+ green (for yellow) - the white die will used for the FOC die.
White will also be an option.  In stunt and CSV1 trim levels, the 3rd white will nto be used.  In CSV1 with FOC, the 3rd white will still be the FOC die.

I am not sure how well a colored acrylic blade will light up with a colored LED.  It may be that a red blade will light very poorly with a red LED, etc.

I am working on an alternative to the colored blade that might solve the colored LED problem.  I was sent a sample of a new type of acrylic rod about a year ago.

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9390_zps6c318e71.jpg&hash=683ba35964ed680680fa52d7296a9f78e7a235c7) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/IMG_9390_zps6c318e71.jpg)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2F7407f3a9-31af-47a7-9990-10d801ac8f38_zps08a9a8e2.jpg&hash=39ba3ecf45c1991064ae5ba1ee7a99188a4709cc) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/7407f3a9-31af-47a7-9990-10d801ac8f38_zps08a9a8e2.jpg)


As you can see, it's a clear actylic blade (in this case, just a little over .75" diameter - but I have a 1.575" sample coming for testing soon).

In the light of my shop, this is how it looks when the blade is on: (it looks a lot like sideglow fiber optic cable when lit)
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9392_zpsc92f9715.jpg&hash=d7954b6ba208acbb4be0f2b2c3df31ec6e560477) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/IMG_9392_zpsc92f9715.jpg)

And in the dark, it looks like this: (yes, it is very bright in the dark)
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9393_zps9fce0153.jpg&hash=5781f9b04e88c718a403da04fa6e755d407b1f31) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/IMG_9393_zps9fce0153.jpg)

Just for a point of reference, this is the blue acrylic blade, both in the lit shop and dark shop.
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9394_zpsb27e93b5.jpg&hash=3dbfdd720c2366fc48fb556b19d2bfc8f8b87ef0) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/IMG_9394_zpsb27e93b5.jpg)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9395_zpse0e142f2.jpg&hash=97d2564036fc738c0498b8f7c7e6a1a35c511715) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/IMG_9395_zpse0e142f2.jpg)

If the experiments work with the larger diameter sample, I will also make this blade available as the primary or as an extra blade if you want to have a colored blade for shelf duty, and the larger clear blade for showing off.


For now, I do not need to know what your blade color or LED color will be.  Only which level of install you want.  Once I see how the larger diameter clear acrylic works, I will post results and then we can get down to the decisions on blades, extra blades, LED colors, etc.  I posted LED and blade colors to let you know what options will be on the table for sure and to let you start thinking about what you want for your personal saber.

When you make your deposit, please (and this is very important) include your FX-SABERs username and install trim level in your Paypal payment. Also, post in this thread once you have paid your deposit.


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edit for clear acylic blade information:

OK, I ot my sample of the 1.575" diameter clear acrylic rod (the fiber opticish stuff).

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9406_zps9e6e87bc.jpg&hash=79545cf122b5d7dd45c1705001f36b6b00dcd665) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/IMG_9406_zps9e6e87bc.jpg)

The picture above was taken in my closed shop (but I do have windows and flourescent lighting) during the daytime hours.  It is a close approximation of how the saber would look shown off in a room during daytime.  Obviously in direct daylight, it will not appear as bright.

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9407_zps2ab32b29.jpg&hash=3acd0b3d4c5878d17551e0e344f05b3f11913ed4) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/IMG_9407_zps2ab32b29.jpg)

The above picture was taken in the exact same spot only at night with the lights out.  It is pretty bright.  Because of the nature of the rod, it does spill a lot of light out of the end and does light up the room pretty good.  Adding a mirroed tip does not add much to the brightness of the blade.  It does help a little, but you would have to experiment to see if gives you the look you want.  Personally, I will probably add some sort of tip just to minimize the light coming out the end of the blade - it acts like a flashlight.

I like how this blade looks so I am going to offer it as a blade option.  Now, the trouble is this:  The clear acrylic blade is 1.575" (+ or -).  The colored acrylic blade is 1.512" (+ or -).  Thats a diameter difference of .063" (roughly).  In order to use the clear acrylic, I have to bore the blade holder much larger than I would for the colored acrylic - that means a spacer will be needed.  I am pretty sure I can use some 1.625" od 1.509" id tube to make a shim sleeve out of.

So what I am going to offer is this:
There will be two choices for the primary blade - clear acrylic and colored acrylic.  If you choose clear acrylic, the blade holder will be larger for the clear acrylic blade.  If you choose colored, the blade holder will be bored for only the colored acylic blade.  Likewise, if you choose the clear acrylic blade, the 1" blade adapter will fit the larger diameter bore and if you choose the colored blade, the 1" blade adapter will fit the smaller diameter bore.  If you choose the colored acrylic balde as your primary blade, you will not be able to use the clear acrylic blade.

If you choose the clear acrylic as your primary blade, you can also purchase an extra (or more in different colors if you choose) colored acrylic blade and I will include the shim sleeve to reduce the emitter bore to accept the colored blade. 

You are free to choose which option best suits your needs.  I am personally going to select a clear blade for showing off the LED aspect of the saber during the day and at night, and I will also be getting a colored blade for when I display the saber on the wall.  That way, I get the best of both worlds. 

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1.  Sollus Vir - stunt - yellow blade
2.  PitDroid - CSV1 with FOC - clear blade
3.  ScrimpyPie - stunt - cyan blade  +  yellow blade  + 1" adapter
4.  Clark Kent - CSV1 with FOC - WWW - clear blade + violet blade  + yellow blade + C-A adapter
5.  Darth Monkey - CSV1 with FOC - clear blade + violet blade + C-A adapter
6.  tange99 - CSV1 with FOC - clear blade + yellow blade + C-A adpapter
7.  Ladyhawke - stunt - violet
8.  ancientjedi - stunt - clear blade + 1" adapter
9.  Jango Fett - stunt - clear blade + green blade  + 1" adapter + C-A adapter
10.  Solan Starr- CSV1 with FOC - clear blade + red blade  + red blade  + C-A adapter
11.  MH - green blade  
12.  MH - blue blade
13.  General Greivous - clear blade
14.  General Greivous - clear blade
15.



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All sabers have been shipped to installers.  Your installer will contact you to make install arrangements.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: COUNT DOOKU on March 03, 2013, 08:17:11 PM
Deposit Sent for A Stunt Trim Level.

I would Like a Yellow Blade. Second Choice would be a Blue Blade.

I appreciate you doing this Wat.  8)
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: PitDroid on March 03, 2013, 08:25:25 PM
Deposit sent ;D

CSV1 with FOC trim level

Thanks Wat!!

P.S. I sent you a PM as well
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: ScrimpyPIE on March 04, 2013, 03:56:19 AM
Deposit away! Stunt trim-level, Pleeeease. ;D
So glad you gave this saber another chance with a run; thank you!!!

Sincerely,
Tyler
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Clark Kent on March 04, 2013, 05:49:44 AM
hi Watt,

do you think for a Colored blade, a tri-rebel WWW would be best to light up the blade?
as you mention as an example. a red blade with a red LED might not be the best choice.

suggestions? i was thinking about a CS with no FoC so it will be as bright as possible.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Acerocket on March 04, 2013, 09:34:59 AM
The original saber (non-sound) used a single Lux 3 white LED driven by 4 AAA batteries with a current regualting circuit.  It does not light up the blade like you would see with a hollow, diffused blade like we normally use.  It does light up, you can see a little light during the day in a lit room and lights up enough to see at night - but it does have limitations in lighting the blade evenly all the way to the end.  That being said, a tri-rebel with two white in series/parallel (I am not sure how the installers will wire it up) would probably be brighter than a single Lux 3 so I would guess it would light up a little better - but I still have doubts it will light evenly all the way to the end.  Maybe a lighter blade, like a cyan, violet or yellow might light better because the darker blades will limit light transmission more (like in the old days with the Lee or Roscolux filters - they could cut light transmission by 50-80%).  I really have my fingers crossed for the clear acrylic coming through like the smaller sample is working.  If it does, I am going to use a green or cyan colored blade on my personal saber and then keep a clear blade and go with the cyan or green LED in the saber.  That way, when I have the saber sitting on display, I can keep the colored blade in it and when I want to show it off, I will swap to the clear blade.  I won't be using the adapter and 1" blade because I like the looks with the short, fat blade.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Clark Kent on March 04, 2013, 09:41:22 AM
that is a good idea for the two blade option. i like that idea. hmmmmm

but i am thinking about going with the one blade option. maybe with a lighter color like Yellow or Cyan or Violet. and have it all WWW, with no FoC.

ill be the test bunny for that.

thanks Wat.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: ANAKIN SKYWALKER on March 04, 2013, 09:47:28 AM
In stunt and CSV1 trim levels, the 3rd white will not be used.

Even if using all 3 dice was allowed, it wouldn't make much sense trying to draw 3A continuously through the saber.  I don't know off of the top of my head just checked the CS thread and the CS is only able to pass 2A through it for the main led, so an additional PeX/ resistor setup (takes up more room) would have to be used to even be able to power all 3 dice.  not to mention 3 whites drawing 3A total from the batteries continuously would make even the 18650 have pretty bad runtime. 
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Clark Kent on March 04, 2013, 09:57:34 AM
ahhhh, i see. but at least if i did choose WWW, it would just be a brighter FoC white right?
and short run time doesnt bother me, this is really for display and showing off to people who come over. it looks good even if it wasnt turned on. thats the beauty of the colored blade.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: ANAKIN SKYWALKER on March 04, 2013, 09:59:51 AM
right.  It could change color if you go with a colored led (2 dice) and white flash with the clear blade when using it and then put the colored blade in when it is being displayed.  Assuming the clear blade works well and becomes an option. 
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Clark Kent on March 04, 2013, 10:07:51 AM
got it, ill do that, WWW, with W FoC and a colored blade (Cyan).

on or off, it will look nice on the wall.

speaking of display. will this come with a custom stand? or do we need to look for another
avenue for that topic?
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Darth Monkey on March 04, 2013, 10:47:06 AM
Deposit sent for a CSV1 wFOC trim level


Cheers!
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: GENERAL GRIEVOUS on March 04, 2013, 12:59:08 PM
Watching... :o
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: tange99 on March 04, 2013, 02:54:07 PM
Deposit sent...

CSV1 with FOC trim level

Thanks...
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Iggy on March 04, 2013, 03:27:07 PM
Watching... :o

What?...he said we have until the end of the month to send deposit. It is the first day.  :)

That and the original run option had empties. I know the topic has been discussed to death, and I understand the reasoning, I just prefer to do installs myself. Not sure if it will interrupt the run. I am still deciding.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Sandpeople are people too on March 04, 2013, 04:04:11 PM
Nevermind;  good luck with the run.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Ladyhawke on March 04, 2013, 04:09:38 PM
Deposit sent for stunt level first choice cyan, second choice blue

Thanks!
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: iamdrake on March 04, 2013, 04:41:11 PM
I see talk of an empty version... I would jump at that without a second thought. I will have to sit on the fence and figure if I would want a stunt version.... soooo tempting!!!!
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: COUNT DOOKU on March 04, 2013, 05:29:21 PM
C'mon guys, an empty is not going to be that much less in the broad scheme of saber pricing.

Wat is going out of his way to make this one happen, after a failed first attempt too. Let's not make his life difficult by hashing up an old topic.  ;)
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: iamdrake on March 04, 2013, 07:38:59 PM
Sorry I was unaware of the previous discussion. I would like the hilt as a static, buying one as a stunt is an option that I am thinking over. I just don't need the electronics, switch, switch hole, battery pack or wiring. It wouldn't even need to be hallowed out for electronics. LOL.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on March 04, 2013, 08:19:00 PM
Unfortunately, CNC doesn't work like that.  They are all made the same.  It would actually possibly cost more, in this type of case, NOT to hollow it out since they are all done at the same time in the same way.  That is how WAT is able to keep the price down so people have the opportunity to own such a great piece.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: GENERAL GRIEVOUS on March 04, 2013, 11:28:15 PM
Watching... :o

What?...he said we have until the end of the month to send deposit. It is the first day.  :)

That and the original run option had empties. I know the topic has been discussed to death, and I understand the reasoning, I just prefer to do installs myself. Not sure if it will interrupt the run. I am still deciding.

LOL, allow me to translate: GG sees a thread that he needs to follow, so he posts in said thread and it shows up on replies to his posts every time he logs on so he doesn't forget to check it daily.  Had nothing to do with who had deposits in or not ;)  I simply want to follow the thread and not get a bazillion email notifications ;)
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Iggy on March 05, 2013, 03:48:50 AM
Haha. Sorry GG. Mistook the smiley. I guess it looks different now. I am watching also.  :D
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on March 05, 2013, 07:56:19 AM
Yeah the shocked smiley looks like someone who swallowed something bad.  I liked the old ones better, but c'est la vie :-\.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: GENERAL GRIEVOUS on March 05, 2013, 12:41:52 PM
Haha. Sorry GG. Mistook the smiley. I guess it looks different now. I am watching also.  :D

LOL, no worries Brotha.  I just didn't wantcha to think I was mad at ya ;)  @ LUMI, yeah the new one looks like he has gas, lol.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: AncientJedi on March 05, 2013, 05:56:20 PM
Deposit sent for a stunt trim level.  Thanks for doing this run, Wat!
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Gil Gamesh on March 06, 2013, 10:01:48 AM
I have gas
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: JANGO FETT on March 12, 2013, 02:13:59 PM
Stunt version. Clear Acrylic & Green Blade
Deposit sent.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Acerocket on March 17, 2013, 12:36:22 PM
OK, I ot my sample of the 1.575" diameter clear acrylic rod (the fiber opticish stuff).

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9406_zps9e6e87bc.jpg&hash=79545cf122b5d7dd45c1705001f36b6b00dcd665) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/IMG_9406_zps9e6e87bc.jpg)

The picture above was taken in my closed shop (but I do have windows and flourescent lighting) during the daytime hours.  It is a close approximation of how the saber would look shown off in a room during daytime.  Obviously in direct daylight, it will not appear as bright.

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9407_zps2ab32b29.jpg&hash=3acd0b3d4c5878d17551e0e344f05b3f11913ed4) (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/LEGO/IMG_9407_zps2ab32b29.jpg)

The above picture was taken in the exact same spot only at night with the lights out.  It is pretty bright.  Because of the nature of the rod, it does spill a lot of light out of the end and does light up the room pretty good.  Adding a mirroed tip does not add much to the brightness of the blade.  It does help a little, but you would have to experiment to see if gives you the look you want.  Personally, I will probably add some sort of tip just to minimize the light coming out the end of the blade - it acts like a flashlight.

I like how this blade looks so I am going to offer it as a blade option.  Now, the trouble is this:  The clear acrylic blade is 1.575" (+ or -).  The colored acrylic blade is 1.512" (+ or -).  Thats a diameter difference of .063" (roughly).  In order to use the clear acrylic, I have to bore the blade holder much larger than I would for the colored acrylic - that means a spacer will be needed.  I am pretty sure I can use some 1.625" od 1.509" id tube to make a shim sleeve out of.

So what I am going to offer is this:
There will be two choices for the primary blade - clear acrylic and colored acrylic.  If you choose clear acrylic, the blade holder will be larger for the clear acrylic blade.  If you choose colored, the blade holder will be bored for only the colored acylic blade.  Likewise, if you choose the clear acrylic blade, the 1" blade adapter will fit the larger diameter bore and if you choose the colored blade, the 1" blade adapter will fit the smaller diameter bore.  If you choose the colored acrylic balde as your primary blade, you will not be able to use the clear acrylic blade.

If you choose the clear acrylic as your primary blade, you can also purchase an extra (or more in different colors if you choose) colored acrylic blade and I will include the shim sleeve to reduce the emitter bore to accept the colored blade. 

You are free to choose which option best suits your needs.  I am personally going to select a clear blade for showing off the LED aspect of the saber during the day and at night, and I will also be getting a colored blade for when I display the saber on the wall.  That way, I get the best of both worlds. 
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Clark Kent on March 17, 2013, 01:12:09 PM
looks like ill be getting two blades  :P
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: PitDroid on March 17, 2013, 02:15:35 PM
Thanks for the information Wat! Can you please tell me when you will need our final choices, and how you would like to receive them... PM, Email, etc.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: JANGO FETT on March 17, 2013, 02:48:17 PM
I have modified my original post with my blade choice options.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Acerocket on March 17, 2013, 03:59:47 PM
Thanks for the information Wat! Can you please tell me when you will need our final choices, and how you would like to receive them... PM, Email, etc.

When I close the list, I will PM everyone on the list to get their blade choices sorted out.  You have a couple weeks to think about what type of blade you want, if you want to purchase an extra blade(s) and what color LED you want for the saber.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Solan Starr on March 22, 2013, 01:54:47 PM
Gonna give this thread a bump.

I plan to have my deposit in by the 28th!  Wat, I plan on going with the clear blade for showing off, but plan on displaying it with 2 colored blades as a saber staff.  Will you be boring out both ends to accommodate the clear blade, thus needing to tell you I need 2 shims, or just one?
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Acerocket on March 27, 2013, 09:50:57 AM
Just a reminder, the list for this run is scheduled to close this coming Sunday.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Solan Starr on March 27, 2013, 06:06:52 PM
Deposit sent for CSV1 with FOC

Thanks Wat!
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Acerocket on March 28, 2013, 07:21:54 PM
Thanks for catching that - too many members with similar names and I was trying to add you to the list before breakfast so I was a little rushed.  Fixed now.
Thanks
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Solan Starr on March 28, 2013, 08:04:14 PM
Thanks Wat.  I just wanted to make sure I got in on this run as I own several of your sabers and am looking forward to this one and a couple of the upcoming Rebellion runs.  You make fantastic stuff sir!


Oh! And I'm really looking forward to the LEGO soundfont too!  This run is FoW
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Acerocket on April 16, 2013, 02:15:54 PM
Update time:

As some may have noticed, I have not 'officially' closed this deposit thread.  I was hoping the number of commits would have been a bit higher, and I decided to leave this thread open a bit longer while I look at another venue to try and sell a few more spots on the list.  If anyone else wants in on this run, there is still some time.  I do not have an exact closing date yet, but will post it when I know for sure.  It will probably be some time in May, and then I will start the run with what orders I do have.

This run is not closed, nor will it be cancelled.  If the run size stays at 15, then I will make 15 sabers and those who got in can be even more excited about the limited nature of the run. 
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Darth Monkey on April 16, 2013, 02:22:12 PM
Wat I'm always excited about your runs!  ;D
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Acerocket on August 20, 2013, 09:40:02 AM
Looks like there is finally something to update here.  I am sure Clark Kent will be most happy.  :)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9615_zpsc4597bf6.jpg&hash=ec4b2dc0b1409e980cb28ba74c49152673d1d03e) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/LEGO/IMG_9615_zpsc4597bf6.jpg.html)

This is why I hate doing sabers with big part:

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9614_zpsbc8a869c.jpg&hash=5f42d54c5047cd6b3b3889ca547be9f8923e816e) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/LEGO/IMG_9614_zpsbc8a869c.jpg.html)

Emitter first half.  Because I can only push 2" od bar through the machine, I have to cut all the 3" bars into chunks and just place in chuck.

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9617_zpsb8e5d702.jpg&hash=389ea4a9c9f1f94cf0df4f3edf541ae46b930a5f) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/LEGO/IMG_9617_zpsb8e5d702.jpg.html)

Then you are left with 35.5 pounds of material that you can't use.  The only reason you have it is to mount in the chuck and provide tool clearance with the chuck as it spins.  Anyone want a 1 and a half pound papaer weight - I have lots.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Clark Kent on August 20, 2013, 09:43:29 AM
woo hooooo, its coming soon, woo hoooo

Wat, you were going to test some blade colors for me, remember i had that question about having the LED white, white, white, and having the blade a cyan color vs. or just doing a cyan blade with cyan LED with red FoC.

you were going to see what was the best option for the LED as far as brightness goes.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Acerocket on August 20, 2013, 09:59:08 AM
woo hooooo, its coming soon, woo hoooo

Wat, you were going to test some blade colors for me, remember i had that question about having the LED white, white, white, and having the blade a cyan color vs. or just doing a cyan blade with cyan LED with red FoC.

you were going to see what was the best option for the LED as far as brightness goes.

I haven't had the heart to gut the original LEGO saber I have for testing purposes - it is actually my son's saber so I prefer it stay the way it is.  I need to make the LED/optic module holder and heatsink portions for this run, then I will have a way to do some tests.  I don't want to order a bunch of blade materials until I know what peopel will be wanting, so that leaves me the original blue acrylic blade I have and the new clear blade sample.  I am not going to run a bunch of different test, most likely just a few to compare the colored acrylic blade with the corresponding colored LED with clear blade.  I might do a couple colors with the clear blade if I have time.  The purpose will be to give some idea of the difference between using the white LED with a colored blade and a colored LED with the clear blade.  I can't really run every possible combination (It's like 28 dollars per colored blade with a minimum order of three blades of each color - with 6 different colors, I can't really afford 500+ dollars just to test the different combinations).  If all goes well this weekend, I may have some comparisons to post next week.  Then I will start asking people to make their final blade color choices.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Clark Kent on August 20, 2013, 10:07:06 AM
not a problem Wat. ill stick to my original plan. if its a tri-rebel, ill do WWW with a Cyan blade.
also would like 2 additional white blade and a yellow blade.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: LordBlako on August 22, 2013, 03:10:16 AM
The Lego fonts are done and can be found here: The LEGO Saber Fonts PT & OT (http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=41116.msg548497;topicseen#msg548497)

if Wat wants to incorporate the fonts, i think the best solution would be to tell him your choice (OT or PT), so he can install the font on your saber...
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Clark Kent on September 10, 2013, 08:02:42 AM
any new news Wat?  ::)
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: GENERAL GRIEVOUS on September 10, 2013, 12:04:55 PM
any new news Wat?  ::)

Wat is currently out of commission.  Personal Health issue.  It will be resolved in a week or two, but his internet access is limited during that time.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Clark Kent on September 10, 2013, 12:17:40 PM
oh wow! i didnt know that. ok, sorry,  :-[
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: GENERAL GRIEVOUS on September 10, 2013, 12:20:25 PM
oh wow! i didnt know that. ok, sorry,  :-[

No need to apologize.  There was no way for you to have known ;)
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Acerocket on September 15, 2013, 06:52:07 PM
OK, I took these pictures a few weeks ago, but because of some personal health issues, I am just getting around to posting them.  I used the same exact camera setting for every picture (whatever teh auto setting is) and I only cropped the pictures (no editing in any way).  These pictures do not represent the 'real world' look of the blades, they are only meant coney differences between lit room, dark room, and clear versus solid color acrylic blades.  (remeber, this is a special acrylic I found that mimics sideglow fiber optic cable - it is not standard clear acrylic rod)

I used three different LEDs (all Luxeon 3 stars), a red, a white and a blue. and used my power supply to drive them.
Red = 1.4 amp @ 3.1V
White = 1.0 amp at 4.4V
Blue = 1.0 amp @ 3.6V

I took two pictures of each blade setup - one with my shop light on (a 4 bulb flourescent fixture is directly above the toolbox I took the pictures on) and the other in total darkness.

Red LED with clear acrylic blade - lit room:
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9642_zpsc8dc4a3a.jpg&hash=a42cb0f4a840837dd7966749c2c4f23d481e77aa) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/LEGO/IMG_9642_zpsc8dc4a3a.jpg.html)

Red LED with clear acrylic blade - dark room:
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9643_zps1a727efd.jpg&hash=66e1eec12bedc1ad6dc3a4cbecdea6f6e2a97136) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/LEGO/IMG_9643_zps1a727efd.jpg.html)

White LED with clear acrylic blade - lit room:
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9644_zps43891059.jpg&hash=baa359aac5a58865ae3d562bf081dd82898c5a5e) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/LEGO/IMG_9644_zps43891059.jpg.html)

White LED with clear acylic blade - dark room:
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9645_zps7b69177c.jpg&hash=1473d398751f73f4710b8de6dc5565dc7682d226) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/LEGO/IMG_9645_zps7b69177c.jpg.html)

Blue LED with clear acylic blade - lit room:
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9648_zps9f12f13b.jpg&hash=3c22b0d32b0a276a18e15d35658e02eaf7ca3042) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/LEGO/IMG_9648_zps9f12f13b.jpg.html)

Blue LED with clear acrylic blade - dark room:
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9649_zps45d76f55.jpg&hash=f910f7f34f9d19226c3e924228200591d227682c) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/LEGO/IMG_9649_zps45d76f55.jpg.html)

I also used the white LED to test the solid blue acrylic blade (same blade from the first saber I built).

White LED with blue acrylic blade - lit room:
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9646_zps28fbe09a.jpg&hash=0cfe6a5750176e313e846ad1dd22096014f56831) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/LEGO/IMG_9646_zps28fbe09a.jpg.html)

White LED with blue acrylic blade - dark room:
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9647_zpsd80435ff.jpg&hash=20901c96694aa6d1ff353f30386012e5756d46aa) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/LEGO/IMG_9647_zpsd80435ff.jpg.html)

And just for fun, I used the red led and the solid blue acrylic blade to see what would happen if you wanted to try that route.

lit room:
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9650_zps6a776dc2.jpg&hash=d9e864f1bef397f0e64eb3f22f2a50bbe95788f8) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/LEGO/IMG_9650_zps6a776dc2.jpg.html)

dark room:
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FLEGO%2FIMG_9651_zps9c18d4e8.jpg&hash=301fa05d94cb010d2571d1513e9996ffb71ae99c) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/LEGO/IMG_9651_zps9c18d4e8.jpg.html)

I tried the same thing with a the blue LED and blue blade and it was pretty much the same result - almost zero light got into the blade.

So, my suggestion is, if you want the blade to light up and be visible during the daytime (say walking a convention floor), use the color LED you want for the same blade color and go with the clear acrylic blade.  The clear blade lights up enough to be seen in a lit room and shines pretty good in a dark room.  If you want the blade to be colored like the original mini figure blades, go with the solid colored acrylic blade but be aware that lighting it up will be less than with the clear blade.  There is no reason why you couldn't use a red LED and a clear blade for a light up red saber, and keep a blue acrylic blade for show purposes.  You could set up a font that keeps the blade off and just plays the sounds and use the solid colored blades and you'd have a 'static' replica of the small scale saber but with sound capability.  It should give a bit longer run time that way.

For me personally, I am going to go with a colored LED and clear blade and get a solid blade in the matching color for display.

I will need everyone on teh list on page one to verify what blade color options you want.  Remeber, one blade is included with the saber, but you can order extra blades if you want for an addition cost.  I will send PMs to everyone on the list to point them to this posting so I can get the blade material ordered soon.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: AncientJedi on September 16, 2013, 08:53:30 PM
Wat,
Good to hear you're feeling better now.  Thanks for the updates and for posting the pictures of the blade tests.  That helped me make my final decision.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Clark Kent on November 14, 2013, 04:33:35 PM

For me personally, I am going to go with a colored LED and clear blade and get a solid blade in the matching color for display.

Hi Wat,

looks like ill take your advice. Ill take a clear blade with a Green LED and Red FoC.

Ill also take an additional Green blade for display.

thanks Wat.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Acerocket on December 11, 2013, 01:20:44 PM
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi726.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww266%2Facerocket%2FIMG_9694_zpsa4e8dad3.jpg&hash=874b28b3318e7d11f9b3793520c99204c2ddc966) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/acerocket/media/IMG_9694_zpsa4e8dad3.jpg.html)

LEGO saber run machining is finished.  I sent PM's out to everyone on the run to get some information.  But I want to re-iterate some information here. \

I need to get everyone who is in on this run to get back to me with which LED choice they are wanting so I can assign installers.  I also need those that still owe for the extra blades to make payment on those. 

All the sabers are complete, blade material is in, emitters are rebored, sleeves and adapters are machined.  I just need to package these up to ship, but I am going to wait until after the first of the year to mail these out to the installers.  I don't want these getting lost in the crazy mail shuffle around the holidays.

Once I get the LED choices figured out and installers sorted, run participants will be hearing fromt ehir installers regarding their install.
 
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Clark Kent on December 11, 2013, 02:44:36 PM
good idea about mailing these out after the Christmas madness. for sure things will get lost.

Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: Acerocket on January 10, 2014, 09:34:01 AM
Updated the first post, but then thought I needed to make a new post to make sure people know it was posted.

All the install sabers have been shipped to their installers.  You will be contacted (if you haven't already) by your installer to finalize your install details and get that part of the process going.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: GENERAL GRIEVOUS on January 10, 2014, 12:45:02 PM
Mine are under way.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: JANGO FETT on February 14, 2014, 11:54:41 PM
Wired up my first one.
Those of you that choose clear polycarbonate blades will be happy campers.
 ;)
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: GENERAL GRIEVOUS on February 15, 2014, 12:52:41 AM
Mine are DUN.  Will post this weekend.  I agree with Jango.  Clear Rules. 
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: JANGO FETT on February 15, 2014, 11:59:51 PM
Mine are done tonight as well. I'll take pics and post video tomorrow.
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: JANGO FETT on February 16, 2014, 09:36:39 PM
Install Thread posted.
OM Lego Sabers, Installs and Demo (http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=42895.msg572117#msg572117)
Title: Re: LEGO saber deposit thread
Post by: JANGO FETT on June 25, 2015, 04:41:32 PM
If you need a simple stand for your Lego saber, I have found a suitable one on ebay.
It will hold the saber level with the blade in and it can display the hilt by itself, if you want.

Antique Bottle or Mulane Longshell Acrylic Display Stand | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-BOTTLE-OR-MULANE-LONGSHELL-ACRYLIC-DISPLAY-STAND/321518004126?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D29981%26meid%3D5b93b2b5ad704076a8f4ab0752821c09%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D221799971657)

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi20.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb219%2FNailbunny375%2Flego%2520sabers%2FSAM_1121_zpshfijpnbl.jpg&hash=9318ec1459a4f82bd0668d8bcde1788cba72885e) (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Nailbunny375/media/lego%20sabers/SAM_1121_zpshfijpnbl.jpg.html)
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi20.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb219%2FNailbunny375%2Flego%2520sabers%2FSAM_1122_zpsfvtynss2.jpg&hash=ce3afdcc25a76f3a88e878fe29300c00bb4e4456) (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Nailbunny375/media/lego%20sabers/SAM_1122_zpsfvtynss2.jpg.html)
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi20.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb219%2FNailbunny375%2Flego%2520sabers%2FSAM_1124_zpsq4eotxpg.jpg&hash=8c9e72d179371d3984d77c5aaccef35a226586a7) (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Nailbunny375/media/lego%20sabers/SAM_1124_zpsq4eotxpg.jpg.html)