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Title: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on June 14, 2018, 07:45:33 PM
Let’s talk about some tools you’ve found helpful that may not be considered or thought of as “traditional” tools used in saber building.

I’ll start...

Rubber stoppers. Very useful in plugging up your pieces when etching. Also useful to rig your pieces up for painting. You can even get ones small enough for screw holes. And before I had my lathe I would use them and a threaded rod to spin pieces on the hand drill for sanding and polishing.

#7 stoppers are perfect for 1.25” ID
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on June 21, 2018, 04:22:46 PM
Loc-tite putty. Awesome for securing things you don’t want to glue in. Great for holding boards and components, just don’t get the heat too close. And a good way to keep small parts from rolling off the bench. Stick a wad to the bench then stick those screws, tubes, nuts and washers to that.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Johannes Huber on June 21, 2018, 07:24:52 PM
The rubber stoppers are a great idea!. Many thanks. I will be running out to get some at Lowe's if I can find them there. On using them with a drill for very simple "lathe-like", is it a mater of friction holding the plug tight (in the MHS or other) piece?
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on June 21, 2018, 08:21:17 PM
The rubber stoppers are a great idea!. Many thanks. I will be running out to get some at Lowe's if I can find them there. On using them with a drill for very simple "lathe-like", is it a mater of friction holding the plug tight (in the MHS or other) piece?

Get the ones with holes usually used for chemistry. Also get a 10-32 or 1/4-20 threaded rod (can’t recall) Matching nuts and washers. Stick the stoppers in both ends, feed the rod through and tighten it all up with the hardware. Leave enough for the jaws of the drill to grip and spin away. Just be careful of the heat generated. I’d use a foam sanding block rather than just a piece of sandpaper.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: ARKM on June 22, 2018, 12:28:06 PM
This may sound weird but.... a sewing measuring tape, the flexible plastic/cloth-like ones.

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcouponconnections.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F08%2Fsewing.jpg&hash=e4851373abf27c9c2f5cc243dd0ca2534c29114c)

I cut off the first inch of one end to remove the metal.  I use this on everything saber related that I make in the shop.  It fits where I need it too and will not scratch the metal parts I am working on.  Comes in extremely handy.  Back in the day, I even used to use this to make "evenly" spaced marks around the circumference of a hilt.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Greenie on June 22, 2018, 01:13:24 PM
This may sound weird but.... a sewing measuring tape, the flexible plastic/cloth-like ones.

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcouponconnections.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F08%2Fsewing.jpg&hash=e4851373abf27c9c2f5cc243dd0ca2534c29114c)

I cut off the first inch of one end to remove the metal.  I use this on everything saber related that I make in the shop.  It fits where I need it too and will not scratch the metal parts I am working on.  Comes in extremely handy.  Back in the day, I even used to use this to make "evenly" spaced marks around the circumference of a hilt.

Sometimes the most obvious things elude me. Thanks for this one ARKM
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: ARKM on June 22, 2018, 02:13:50 PM
This may sound weird but.... a sewing measuring tape, the flexible plastic/cloth-like ones.

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcouponconnections.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F08%2Fsewing.jpg&hash=e4851373abf27c9c2f5cc243dd0ca2534c29114c)

I cut off the first inch of one end to remove the metal.  I use this on everything saber related that I make in the shop.  It fits where I need it too and will not scratch the metal parts I am working on.  Comes in extremely handy.  Back in the day, I even used to use this to make "evenly" spaced marks around the circumference of a hilt.

Sometimes the most obvious things elude me. Thanks for this one ARKM

You're welcome.  I hope it helps.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on June 22, 2018, 02:44:46 PM
This may sound weird but.... a sewing measuring tape, the flexible plastic/cloth-like ones.

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcouponconnections.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F08%2Fsewing.jpg&hash=e4851373abf27c9c2f5cc243dd0ca2534c29114c)

I cut off the first inch of one end to remove the metal.  I use this on everything saber related that I make in the shop.  It fits where I need it too and will not scratch the metal parts I am working on.  Comes in extremely handy.  Back in the day, I even used to use this to make "evenly" spaced marks around the circumference of a hilt.

Good stuff!

I have a flexible ruler but never touch it. This seems so much better.

Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: jbkuma on June 22, 2018, 05:07:02 PM
Since I use almost exclusively hand tools..

(https://i.imgur.com/DmJV7thm.png)
Nibbler - takes small "nibbles" out of material up to about 1/16 thick.  Some materials and angles will be harder than others but if you aren't able to use power tools it will get the job done.  Also good for squaring round holes before fine tuning with files.

(https://i.imgur.com/Bwsw7c4m.jpg)
pipe reamer - deburs both the inside and outside of the a tube.  Useful when using a pipe cutter to cut your tubing, can also be used for a slight chamfer. (pro tip, run it backwards for softer materials)

(https://i.imgur.com/Fsf8JUCm.jpg)
Step bits - Not really obscure, but I think a lot of new builders aren't aware of them

1/2" PVC pipe - enough to stick inside a 1" thin blade tube.  This will make it possible to quickly and easily cut down your blades with a pipe cutter.

3D printed jigs - use your 3d printer to make useful tools as well as parts!
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Seth Skywalker on June 22, 2018, 06:59:59 PM
Step drills are what I used for the switch hole in my lightsaber. It worked out pretty nice considering that I used a regular drill for it, not a drill press.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darkmatter73 on June 23, 2018, 01:18:56 PM
Here's my offering =)



Darkmatter73
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: jbkuma on June 23, 2018, 02:20:33 PM
PS: I still don't know how to get the video to thumbnail here
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Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on June 23, 2018, 02:34:25 PM
Here's my offering =)

https://youtu.be/5syl39jFgew

Darkmatter73
PS: I still don't know how to get the video to thumbnail here

NICE!
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Onli-Won Kanomi on June 23, 2018, 11:23:25 PM
Here's my offering =)



Darkmatter73


That is a truly BRILLIANT contribution with SO many different applications in MHS building...have you posted this to TCSS forums? This is worthy of a 'sticky' there imo.

Thank you and BRAVO!
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darkmatter73 on June 24, 2018, 10:17:01 AM
Hey thanks. No I never have posted that anywhere. I have lots of uses for that setup too.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on June 26, 2018, 08:01:04 PM
Here's something I just made tonight with the Help of @jbkuma. Thanks for answering my questions.

It's a neopixel light that I will attach to the spindle of my mill for additional direct lighting. One of the coolest things is the electronics case. I think its an Xbox memory card case from back in the day hah.

Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Seth Skywalker on June 26, 2018, 08:06:38 PM
Wow! Genius, DC. :huh: I wonder why I havent thought of that before. Even though I dont have a drill press, I still could use it with a standard drill.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Seth Skywalker on June 26, 2018, 08:13:57 PM
Here's my offering =)



Darkmatter73
Now why have I never thought of that before? :embarrassed: Thanks Darkmatter73! We need more people that make  usefull tutorials like that.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on June 26, 2018, 08:33:54 PM
Wow! Genius, DC. :huh: I wonder why I havent thought of that before. Even though I dont have a drill press, I still could use it with a standard drill.

I wish I was that smart. I got the idea from others online. Other people have used rings lights made for microscopes and cars, but I figured I'd make my own.


And shhhhh if my Sherline heard that you called her a drill press she'd cry  :cry:
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Seth Skywalker on June 26, 2018, 08:43:27 PM
Sorry. Sherline, is that correct? Hope she is happy now. :wink:
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Greenie on June 27, 2018, 12:58:04 AM
Soldering irons, lithium ion batteries, LEDs and more. Things get hot in this hobby. The careless placement of a magnifying glass nearly burnt my garage down last summer! 
So, not really a tool, but definitely a worthy addition to the workshop.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/kho20T/C492_A678_A731_4_B18_A065_DD2140148726.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kho20T)
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on June 27, 2018, 04:32:41 AM
Soldering irons, lithium ion batteries, LEDs and more. Things get hot in this hobby. The careless placement of a magnifying glass nearly burnt my garage down last summer! 
So, not really a tool, but definitely a worthy addition to the workshop.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/kho20T/C492_A678_A731_4_B18_A065_DD2140148726.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kho20T)

Smartest entry yet. Well done and thank you!
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: jbkuma on June 27, 2018, 05:08:04 AM
Soldering irons, lithium ion batteries, LEDs and more. Things get hot in this hobby. The careless placement of a magnifying glass nearly burnt my garage down last summer! 
So, not really a tool, but definitely a worthy addition to the workshop.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/kho20T/C492_A678_A731_4_B18_A065_DD2140148726.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kho20T)

I've actually been considering putting a couple of cooktop fire suppression cans in strategic locations!  They are usually installed in commercial range hoods.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darkmatter73 on June 27, 2018, 08:05:16 AM
Soldering irons, lithium ion batteries, LEDs and more. Things get hot in this hobby. The careless placement of a magnifying glass nearly burnt my garage down last summer! 
So, not really a tool, but definitely a worthy addition to the workshop.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/kho20T/C492_A678_A731_4_B18_A065_DD2140148726.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kho20T)

I'm definitely on board, I've got 4 of them around the house.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: EXAR KUN on June 27, 2018, 11:36:51 AM
For making either string blades or pixel blades (anything with a foam tube or wrap): Baby Powder

Sprinkle some on your hands near the final stages of making your blade, ... when you need to insert your foam covered blade assembly into your blade tube or nylon TCSS diffuser. This will allow the whole assembly that you have in the foam to more easily slide into the tube.

Disperse visible powder (if any) inside the blade tube at the end by striking the blade with your palm. If you don't use too much you won't see any powder at the end.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on June 27, 2018, 12:39:56 PM
Updated the title to be more encompassing.

Great stuff. Keep it coming!
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: ARKM on June 27, 2018, 01:10:07 PM
Here's something I just made tonight with the Help of @jbkuma. Thanks for answering my questions.

It's a neopixel light that I will attach to the spindle of my mill for additional direct lighting. One of the coolest things is the electronics case. I think its an Xbox memory card case from back in the day hah.



Very cool.

Great minds think alike (or like me, have seen it done before and decided to do it themselves, lol).

I made two X2 Mini Mill spindle light mounts a couple of years ago.  Each one was made from three different parts that I machined on my lathe.  I made one of them for me and the other one for Obi-Shane but as you can see, I never installed mine.  I have the matching paint for it and just recently got the double sided foam sheet for mounting the light ring to the metal (I did not want to use a bunch of tiny pieces of the double-sided foam tape and also did not want to use hot glue) and I also have the on-off switch so I have no excuse not to move forward with it.  The light ring was marketed as one of those "halo" ring lights for car headlights.  I got it cheap off of ebay and it runs best off of 9 volts (both the battery and a 9V DC wall plug.  Here's the pic...

(https://i.imgur.com/tmmYeyA.jpg)
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on June 27, 2018, 01:47:42 PM
Here's something I just made tonight with the Help of @jbkuma. Thanks for answering my questions.

It's a neopixel light that I will attach to the spindle of my mill for additional direct lighting. One of the coolest things is the electronics case. I think its an Xbox memory card case from back in the day hah.



Very cool.

Great minds think alike (or like me, have seen it done before and decided to do it themselves, lol).

I made two X2 Mini Mill spindle light mounts a couple of years ago.  Each one was made from three different parts that I machined on my lathe.  I made one of them for me and the other one for Obi-Shane but as you can see, I never installed mine.  I have the matching paint for it and just recently got the double sided foam sheet for mounting the light ring to the metal (I did not want to use a bunch of tiny pieces of the double-sided foam tape and also did not want to use hot glue) and I also have the on-off switch so I have no excuse not to move forward with it.  The light ring was marketed as one of those "halo" ring lights for car headlights.  I got it cheap off of ebay and it runs best off of 9 volts (both the battery and a 9V DC wall plug.  Here's the pic...

(https://i.imgur.com/tmmYeyA.jpg)

Minds of a fea... like minde... twisted minds twis..    Cool :cool:
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Morannon on June 27, 2018, 03:51:24 PM
Not sure how obscure this is, but Sugru is a lifesaver. Mouldable glue that holds well, but can easily be removed if you need to make repairs. I use it for securing little things, or speakers into speaker holders.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on June 28, 2018, 01:34:15 PM
Not sure how obscure this is, but Sugru is a lifesaver. Mouldable glue that holds well, but can easily be removed if you need to make repairs. I use it for securing little things, or speakers into speaker holders.

I have yet to try but definitely want to.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Morannon on June 28, 2018, 06:49:54 PM
Not sure how obscure this is, but Sugru is a lifesaver. Mouldable glue that holds well, but can easily be removed if you need to make repairs. I use it for securing little things, or speakers into speaker holders.

I have yet to try but definitely want to.

When you do, make sure you seal up whatever you don't use really well. The stuff turns into a rubber bullet if left out too long.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Seth Skywalker on June 29, 2018, 10:20:38 AM
It may sound absurd, but I used putty to keep the switch nut from loosening. Still easy to remove if  necessary .
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: jbkuma on June 29, 2018, 10:36:28 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Bwsw7c4m.jpg)
pipe reamer - deburs both the inside and outside of the a tube.  Useful when using a pipe cutter to cut your tubing, can also be used for a slight chamfer. (pro tip, run it backwards for softer materials)

Almost forgot, the reamer is also very effective at shaving off the raised lip from your polycarbonate blade!
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on June 29, 2018, 12:26:37 PM
Almost forgot about this one. A mini orbital sander... made from an old electric toothbrush, double sided foam tape and of course sand paper. Got the idea off of some model maker video on youtube.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/923/hcAtxP.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnhcAtxPj)
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Kolgrima on June 29, 2018, 05:10:58 PM
Almost forgot about this one. A mini orbital sander... made from an old electric toothbrush, double sided foam tape and of course sand paper. Got the idea off of some model maker video on youtube.

I love that one! New tool added to my shop...
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Morannon on June 29, 2018, 07:57:33 PM
Almost forgot about this one. A mini orbital sander... made from an old electric toothbrush, double sided foam tape and of course sand paper. Got the idea off of some model maker video on youtube.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/923/hcAtxP.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnhcAtxPj)

Adding that one for sure
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: BipeFlyer on June 30, 2018, 01:20:49 PM
Shapelock  There are other brands too.  Look for Polycaprolactone or Polymorph Thermoplastic.  You heat it up in hot water and mould the shape you want.


I've used it to make mounts for perfbord.



(https://thumb.ibb.co/eBGdXJ/101_2623.jpg) (https://ibb.co/eBGdXJ)
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: jbkuma on July 06, 2018, 04:18:22 PM

Here's a quick video demonstrating how I cut my blade stock.  Using a bit of 1/2" pvc and a pipe cutter (as noted earlier), you can have a clean, dust free blade ready to go with a nice rounded edge perfect for inserting into your blade holder!
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Morannon on July 06, 2018, 05:06:29 PM

Here's a quick video demonstrating how I cut my blade stock.  Using a bit of 1/2" pvc and a pipe cutter (as noted earlier), you can have a clean, dust free blade ready to go with a nice rounded edge perfect for inserting into your blade holder!

Always wonder why more people don't do this
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: SirRawThunderMan on July 07, 2018, 06:37:50 AM
Okay, here's a couple I use:

Junior Jigsaw/Coping Saw Blade in an X-acto knife holder

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1790/43206791352_1ac64509d3_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28Q36Lu)

I got this one from a Punished Props video. the X-acto holds on to a blade surprisingly well, and with a little patience, it can go through aluminium, no problem. it works like a miniature jab/keyhole saw. I normally have thin coping saw blades in there, which makes it great for inserting into drill holes and cutting into those hard to reach places.

Miniature chisels made from sharpened Jeweller's screwdrivers

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/833/43206784082_3e7ee0f8e5_k.jpg)(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/834/42537259264_591b218112_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28Q34B9)

Not so much a metalwork tool, but I've ended up using these somehow on every build of mine. really useful for shaping 3D printed parts- especially Shapeways prints. I've also used them as improvised turning tools for my attempts at turning things on my drill press, to great success.

Got to give a shout out to Milliput epoxy putties. great stuff for filling him holes that shouldn't be there, and it's water sculptable. I know old modellers who swear by the stuff. the only downside is that I understand that it's one of those products that hasn't made it Stateside, so it might be hard to get cheaply outside the UK.

I also use high-grit scotch brite-type pads. I can't remember the proper brand name, but I get it at a wood shop in the polishing section. I use it for finishing instead of wet sandpaper, or before anodising. It gives as a good a result as sandpaper, and can be cleaned out, dried and re-used, unlike sandpaper.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on July 07, 2018, 09:24:00 AM

Here's a quick video demonstrating how I cut my blade stock.  Using a bit of 1/2" pvc and a pipe cutter (as noted earlier), you can have a clean, dust free blade ready to go with a nice rounded edge perfect for inserting into your blade holder!

Always wonder why more people don't do this

Love it. I havent done many diy blades but I've always done hacksaw. And yeah, the dust sucks. This is much cleaner and efficient.

Okay, here's a couple I use:

Junior Jigsaw/Coping Saw Blade in an X-acto knife holder

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1790/43206791352_1ac64509d3_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28Q36Lu)

I got this one from a Punished Props video. the X-acto holds on to a blade surprisingly well, and with a little patience, it can go through aluminium, no problem. it works like a miniature jab/keyhole saw. I normally have thin coping saw blades in there, which makes it great for inserting into drill holes and cutting into those hard to reach places.

Miniature chisels made from sharpened Jeweller's screwdrivers

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/833/43206784082_3e7ee0f8e5_k.jpg)(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/834/42537259264_591b218112_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28Q34B9)

Not so much a metalwork tool, but I've ended up using these somehow on every build of mine. really useful for shaping 3D printed parts- especially Shapeways prints. I've also used them as improvised turning tools for my attempts at turning things on my drill press, to great success.

Got to give a shout out to Milliput epoxy putties. great stuff for filling him holes that shouldn't be there, and it's water sculptable. I know old modellers who swear by the stuff. the only downside is that I understand that it's one of those products that hasn't made it Stateside, so it might be hard to get cheaply outside the UK.

I also use high-grit scotch brite-type pads. I can't remember the proper brand name, but I get it at a wood shop in the polishing section. I use it for finishing instead of wet sandpaper, or before anodising. It gives as a good a result as sandpaper, and can be cleaned out, dried and re-used, unlike sandpaper.

Genius!!
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on July 07, 2018, 09:27:10 AM
Moltow Liquid Chrome Paint Marker... AMAZING! Saw Adam Savage using it.

Mirror finish on smooth surfaces. No joke, I can see myself in it. Cast aluminum look on unfinished shapeways prints.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/921/wBonm5.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/plwBonm5j)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/924/dG51N8.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/podG51N8j)
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: ARKM on July 07, 2018, 12:11:57 PM
Moltow Liquid Chrome Paint Marker... AMAZING! Saw Adam Savage using it.

Mirror finish on smooth surfaces. No joke, I can see myself in it. Cast aluminum look on unfinished shapeways prints.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/921/wBonm5.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/plwBonm5j)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/924/dG51N8.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/podG51N8j)

I've played with that stuff.  I like it.  The only downside is that pretty much any clear coat dulls the finish quite a bit and the fact that the stuff never fully hardens (even with oven baking and letting the painted part sit for months) so it cannot stand up to very much handling before the finish dulls.  Great for "shelf queen" items though.  There's an in-depth thread on these markers over at the RPF.  It's a good read.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Seth Skywalker on July 07, 2018, 12:24:21 PM
Moltow Liquid Chrome Paint Marker... AMAZING! Saw Adam Savage using it.

Mirror finish on smooth surfaces. No joke, I can see myself in it. Cast aluminum look on unfinished shapeways prints.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/921/wBonm5.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/plwBonm5j)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/924/dG51N8.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/podG51N8j)
Huh, I might actually have one of those, not sure but do you know if they come in other colors like copper or brass?
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Jediseth on July 07, 2018, 01:17:00 PM
 I've been trying to think of something to share that nobody uses but I'm struggling thinking of something.

 I bought a set of ESD safe tweezers months and months ago for installing smd LED’s I use them sometimes.

(https://i.imgur.com/DdTfUZm.png)

 But more often I use these. I had a pair from my fly fishing gear years ago. I use them for grabbing wires to pull through on my saber building mostly. Sometimes you have a tight spot and they come in handy. I've actually had a pair for over 20 years that I got from the hospital when they had to put a pick line in me for IV antibiotics. I go to them all the time. They are my favorite!

(https://i.imgur.com/fnwcCDW.png)
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on July 07, 2018, 01:28:36 PM
Moltow Liquid Chrome Paint Marker... AMAZING! Saw Adam Savage using it.

Mirror finish on smooth surfaces. No joke, I can see myself in it. Cast aluminum look on unfinished shapeways prints.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/921/wBonm5.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/plwBonm5j)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/924/dG51N8.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/podG51N8j)

I've played with that stuff.  I like it.  The only downside is that pretty much any clear coat dulls the finish quite a bit and the fact that the stuff never fully hardens (even with oven baking and letting the painted part sit for months) so it cannot stand up to very much handling before the finish dulls.  Great for "shelf queen" items though.  There's an in-depth thread on these markers over at the RPF.  It's a good read.

Good to know. I will check out that thread.

Moltow Liquid Chrome Paint Marker... AMAZING! Saw Adam Savage using it.

Mirror finish on smooth surfaces. No joke, I can see myself in it. Cast aluminum look on unfinished shapeways prints.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/921/wBonm5.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/plwBonm5j)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/924/dG51N8.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/podG51N8j)
Huh, I might actually have one of those, not sure but do you know if they come in other colors like copper or brass?

Not sure. The store assistant got it for me and I didn’t see the full display. Google ;)
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Morannon on July 07, 2018, 01:42:06 PM
Moltow Liquid Chrome Paint Marker... AMAZING! Saw Adam Savage using it.

Mirror finish on smooth surfaces. No joke, I can see myself in it. Cast aluminum look on unfinished shapeways prints.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/921/wBonm5.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/plwBonm5j)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/924/dG51N8.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/podG51N8j)

I've played with that stuff.  I like it.  The only downside is that pretty much any clear coat dulls the finish quite a bit and the fact that the stuff never fully hardens (even with oven baking and letting the painted part sit for months) so it cannot stand up to very much handling before the finish dulls.  Great for "shelf queen" items though.  There's an in-depth thread on these markers over at the RPF.  It's a good read.

Alclad gloss clear coat supposedly eliminates this problem, or at least keeps it more shiny than others. Haven't given it a try yet. Another Adam savage tip.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: SUPREME LEADER SNOKE on July 07, 2018, 01:56:44 PM
Stickied.

Some good stuff here folks. Not just for new comers but for anyone that wants to find some neat techniques and things they may not have thought of.

Continue to contribute as this information sharing is what makes the forums a great venue.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: SirRawThunderMan on July 08, 2018, 03:46:09 AM
Okay, so here's one I've been debating about making into a tutorial for a couple of months, but decided not to (mainly because it's too derivative of existing tutorials) But I figure that as a tip/trick, it's been a lifesaver on my last and current builds, so I might as well share it here.

Using electro etching/saltwater etching as a layout technique for shaping with hand tools


I'm assuming everyone should have a passing familiarity with salt water etching. There's tutorials on practically ever saber forum I've visited, as well as dozens on the internet/youtube. Now, they're mostly focused on using etching to make something look pretty. But instead, I'm talking about using it to lay out cutting, filing, and drilling marks on your workpiece. Now, the main catch is that to do this, you will need a vinyl cutter. you could try doing all this by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it.

So here goes: Last december, I started my Sith Rose build. I had a fair amount of complicated cuts to make, so I figured that instead of marking them onto the aluminium, I could just use my hackspace's vinyl cutter to make some stickers that I could apply to the aluminium, and then cut around them

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4680/39118246921_d9f897e1c5_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22AKeX8)

It worked. kinda. the caveat was that my vice's jaws would grab the vinyl and stretch it, distorting the cut lines. I nearly screwed up every one of those cuts. That's when I had the lightbulb moment of realizing that for my next series of holes and cuts, I could just use the vinyl stickers as resists, then etch everything directly onto the aluminium. that way, there's a clear delineation between what to cut/drill/file away, and what to leave alone, ie: if it's etched, destroy it, if it's not, leave it alone. more importantly, it it's etched into the metal, as opposed to a line scribed on the surface, the mark will stay on, not matter how hard you manhandle it. once it's etched, it's not going away unless you remove it.

So I went into Inkscape and designed a vinyl sticker that described all the holes and cuts I wanted to make, had it cut, applied it to the aluminium tube I was working on, and etched the holes on. I did have to use a bit of nail varnish (another improvised tool with a million uses, btw) to seal up the gaps in the resist, but everything was good. after that, it was just a matter of cutting, drilling, and filing away anything that was etched.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4644/38408392004_34c9a341f5_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21w23Pf)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4737/38408389394_a8f2489d53_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21w233f)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4689/25251673638_7c25521a7c_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/EtpqPq)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4647/27340913889_11d929db62_k.jpg)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4598/27340909529_09fa9c4ce8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HE2ka4)

One thing I learned is that it helps a lot to drill an undersize hole, and then sneak up on the line with some careful file work. you'll work up quite a sweat, but hey, if it's good enough for the guy from Clickspring, then it's good enough for your saber.  :azn:

I made the three mini-blade holders in the same way. Make stickers, apply to aluminium bar stock, etch, shape.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4599/38408462904_e379d6a244_k.jpg)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4686/39087435482_a73b63f329_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21w2pTE)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4607/24988939117_7e9d34b6c0_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/E5bQZT)

in this case, I used my drill press to do most of the bulk of the material removal, then cut between the holes with my trusty coping saw, and filed everything to final shape before drilling more holes and final anodizing.

Same thing with my current build: Make stickers, apply stickers, etch, remove stickers, shape

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/914/42368265775_095117674d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27xWrjX)(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1809/42368261485_6e5169dfef_k.jpg)(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1804/43272372561_874bd089c2_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27xWq3Z)

End result.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/915/42368253315_4d26241b9d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27xWnC8)

So, there you go, I hope it helps.

...I imagine that now I've written all this up, someone will chime in and mention that this was worked out on some other forum years ago, and they've made every saber of theirs since the late 90's this way. :tongue:  oh well, can't be the first to discover everything.

Anyway, if anyone is interested in how I go about designing the stickers vinyl stickers, let me know, and I'll try and get a write-up sorted as soon as I can.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: COUNT DOOKU on July 24, 2018, 09:47:13 AM
Okay, so here's one I've been debating about making into a tutorial for a couple of months, but decided not to (mainly because it's too derivative of existing tutorials) But I figure that as a tip/trick, it's been a lifesaver on my last and current builds, so I might as well share it here.

...I imagine that now I've written all this up, someone will chime in and mention that this was worked out on some other forum years ago, and they've made every saber of theirs since the late 90's this way. :tongue:  oh well, can't be the first to discover everything.

Anyway, if anyone is interested in how I go about designing the stickers vinyl stickers, let me know, and I'll try and get a write-up sorted as soon as I can.

Brilliant sir. Love the creativity in working smarter- not harder. ;)
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on September 01, 2018, 07:05:51 PM
Another one I came up with. When your feeling lazy and dont want to print and paste or draw, use stickers as guides  :cool:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/VWpU9H.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poVWpU9Hj)
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Jediseth on September 02, 2018, 07:45:58 AM
 I'll share this, I use it all the time. I have had this scrap piece of tubing for over a year. I know it's not very presentable or very organized. I thought of making a nice one, but it works.
I use this part to see what size hole I need to drill for a screw or I put the head of the screw in one of the holes to see what size hole to countersink the screw. I measure what hole I need for a certain hole I need for a rod. I have holes drilled different sizes and then I label them or I see which drill bit fits the hole and use it to make my hole. It's a great tool !

(https://i.imgur.com/AUqd1Xi.jpg)
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Seth Skywalker on September 02, 2018, 10:28:21 AM
I'll share this, I use it all the time. I have had this scrap piece of tubing for over a year. I know it's not very presentable or very organized. I thought of making a nice one, but it works.
I use this part to see what size hole I need to drill for a screw or I put the head of the screw in one of the holes to see what size hole to countersink the screw. I measure what hole I need for a certain hole I need for a rod. I have holes drilled different sizes and then I label them or I see which drill bit fits the hole and use it to make my hole. It's a great tool !

(https://i.imgur.com/AUqd1Xi.jpg)
Thats what I am starting to do with extra tcss sleeve material I have.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Greenie on September 03, 2018, 01:40:24 AM
Don’t waste sleeve material. You never know when you might need it.
You know it’s bloody hard to find that size tube over here.   :lamp:
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on October 09, 2018, 05:58:59 PM
Here's another.

Mini drill chuck. Good for holding small pieces making it easier to work with them. And holds more than the usual 1/8" max of pin vises.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/2uotM8.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pl2uotM8j)
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on November 03, 2018, 03:24:29 PM
Not really obscure but definitely not common. USB microscope.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/8ZCkFV.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pl8ZCkFVj)

This was a pic taken from it, but the beauty is in the live feed to your computer screen. The image is HUGE!! I use Quicktime on Mac.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/M6u3gf.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poM6u3gfj)
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: SirRawThunderMan on November 05, 2018, 05:39:51 AM
Okay, so, not really as much an obscure tool as a site, but if you have access to an FDM 3D printer, Thingiverse is a godsend. There is a  bit of saber specific stuff (although you've got to wade through a lot of 3d saber models to find it) but the real gold is the Tools section. Drilling jigs, tool holders, vices, you name it, someone has probably made a 3d printable version you can download for free. Here's a 3 Jaw lathe chuck I downloaded and printed:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1913/45681614082_cc9daaf02d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cAJdkU)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4905/44817928845_dda904d256_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bhpAP8)

I have it mounted in my drill press. It's not sturdy enough for lathe work, but it holds onto cylindrical objects well enough to make sanding just so much easier. And when unmounted, I can use it to hold round objects for drilling, which has always been a pain with a regular two jaw vice.

And if it, or some part of it gets destroyed, no big whoop, just print out another.

Link to that 3 Jaw chuck: 2.5inch Three Jaw Chuck by mdkendall - Thingiverse (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2670620)
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: prnavy888 on November 16, 2018, 05:56:35 PM
Glad to hear the rubber stoppers worked... purchased a couple and plan to acid etch using pasta-dip to seal the ends with the stoppers.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: SirRawThunderMan on November 18, 2018, 11:37:05 AM
Okay, got two more, both reccomended to me by a friend from my local hackspace

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4826/45218442924_f846487c94_k.jpg)

Bottom one's a handheld swivel deburring tool. I got it to remove the elephant's footing you get on the first layer of 3D prints, but it cuts steel and aluminium, too. Very sharp little blade on that thing.

Top one is a tube of solder paste. The stuff is meant for surface mount/reflow soldering, but it can also be used with a regular soldering iron, and it melts at a much lower temperature than wire solder, and you can blast it with a heat gun, in a pinch. Just splice or twist together two wires, slather on a bit of solder paste, apply heat, done.

The major downside is that I've yet to come across a brand that isn't loaded full of lead, so it's not 100% safe, health-wise.

*editted 9/01/2020 to add this warning: Don't use leaded solder paste. It works great, but I had to stop using it after a few months, because even with ventilation and fume filters, I was getting these vile, nasty migraines for a few hours after using it. Turns out commercial hobby fume extractors don't handle lead fumes all that well*

Also, general advice: have a google and see if there are any hackspaces, hackerspaces, makerspaces or anything like that around you, and give them at least a visit on an open evening (or whenever they're open to the public). I couldn't have completed my last four sabers without joining my local one, and using the 3D printers and laser cutter they have.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: EL1 on November 30, 2018, 08:22:11 PM
Here's something I just made tonight with the Help of @jbkuma. Thanks for answering my questions.

It's a neopixel light that I will attach to the spindle of my mill for additional direct lighting. One of the coolest things is the electronics case. I think its an Xbox memory card case from back in the day hah.


This was brilliant! Great idea... A 'ring light' for power tools. I'm picking up a few cheap LED ring versions for this.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Kreyhn on December 27, 2018, 07:37:53 AM
Not really obscure but definitely not common. USB microscope.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/8ZCkFV.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pl8ZCkFVj)

This was a pic taken from it, but the beauty is in the live feed to your computer screen. The image is HUGE!! I use Quicktime on Mac.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/M6u3gf.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poM6u3gfj)

Do you use this to solder wires onto your boards?  And does it help?


Also: This thread is amazing.  I am enjoying DarkMatter's drill bit; it's much smaller than my contraption involving a hole cutter that fits into sink tube, the MHS sink-tube adapter, and then whatever MHS parts I screw into that. I have a blank 2" blade holder which I have converted into a tool to spin blades for sanding.  I find that a clear blade with a sanded outside and either another trans blade or blade film inside the clear, sanded blade gives a nice core+halo effect.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: jbkuma on December 29, 2018, 07:42:52 AM
Using electro etching/saltwater etching as a layout technique for shaping with hand tools [/b][/size]
As a corollary to this, you can etch pilot spots for your drilling rather than punching.  It works pretty well and will give you a really nice level of accuracy.  Even if you etch your layout you can cut your vinyl to include the pilot holes, and do a first etch just etching the holes, then do a second etch for the broader details.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: BipeFlyer on February 23, 2019, 10:50:32 PM
Not really obscure but definitely not common. USB microscope.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/8ZCkFV.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pl8ZCkFVj)

This was a pic taken from it, but the beauty is in the live feed to your computer screen. The image is HUGE!! I use Quicktime on Mac.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/M6u3gf.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poM6u3gfj)

I've been looking at getting one of these, but the reviews are mixed on most that I've seen on Amazon.  What one do you have?
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on July 17, 2019, 07:13:25 PM
Another little thing I cooked up. USB powered Pixel Led tester made with an ATtiny running a test program. Discreet blue power led. 3 pogo pins make it very easy to quickly tap the pads to see if the pixel is good.

The first pic is the first version, but it was an ugly color, way too big, and had regular pins which made it difficult to do the tests quickly.

Less than $10 to make!   :cool:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/924/pG5ImL.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/popG5ImLj) (https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/924/aIMI9C.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poaIMI9Cj) (https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/923/JbXemd.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnJbXemdj)
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: EXAR KUN on July 18, 2019, 09:49:20 AM
Another little thing I cooked up. USB powered Pixel Led tester made with an ATtiny running a test program. Discreet blue power led. 3 pogo pins make it very easy to quickly tap the pads to see if the pixel is good.

The first pic is the first version, but it was an ugly color, way too big, and had regular pins which made it difficult to do the tests quickly.

Less than $10 to make!   :cool:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/924/pG5ImL.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/popG5ImLj) (https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/924/aIMI9C.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poaIMI9Cj) (https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/923/JbXemd.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnJbXemdj)

Love it! Must make your life easier and faster to test!
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: SirRawThunderMan on July 20, 2019, 05:25:15 AM
Another little thing I cooked up. USB powered Pixel Led tester made with an ATtiny running a test program. Discreet blue power led. 3 pogo pins make it very easy to quickly tap the pads to see if the pixel is good.

The first pic is the first version, but it was an ugly color, way too big, and had regular pins which made it difficult to do the tests quickly.

Less than $10 to make!   :cool:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/924/pG5ImL.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/popG5ImLj) (https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/924/aIMI9C.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poaIMI9Cj) (https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/923/JbXemd.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnJbXemdj)

Ok, I mean, don't get me wrong, DC, a neopixel test rig is a good idea, and at the rate neopixels are carving a niche in this hobby, a handy thing to have. This is just a difference of opinion, but I think your rig is a bit overcomplicated. I mean, you could do the same with just an Arduino nano, three wires, and three pogo pins. no need for the hassle of programming an ATtiny in the first place, or an additional USB breakout.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on July 20, 2019, 05:50:21 AM
True you could use a nano or pro micro. There’s even an attiny break out with usb. I have all of the above.

A couple factors went into the decision for the tiny. It seems like a waste to use one of those other boards, minus the attiny breakout, for such a simple circuit. All those unused pins :). The bare tiny chip is much cheaper than a nano or other options. Flashing the boot loader takes no effort really and it was already something I wanted to build a hat for anyway.

I don’t think either option is more or less complicated than the other. They accomplish the same thing. Different ways to skin a cat and all that. I just wanted to save a couple bucks, tinker and try a few new things.

Thanks for your input though. This will give readers more options to consider if they want to build this or something similar.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: SirRawThunderMan on July 20, 2019, 07:12:18 AM
Yeah, that's perfectly fair. Sorry, on re-reading, my OP came off more standoffish than I'd like. My bad.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: SirRawThunderMan on July 20, 2019, 08:28:57 AM
Also, on the subject of different cat skinning methods: Actual Quartz Neocrystal!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48330271666_e8435c6518_k.jpg)(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48330407382_02837d94a4_k.jpg)

While it was fun to break out the diamond tipped dremel tools, I think your cast Neocrystals are significantly easier to make. Less quartz dust in the air, for one. :wink:
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on July 20, 2019, 10:28:09 AM
Yeah, that's perfectly fair. Sorry, on re-reading, my OP came off more standoffish than I'd like. My bad.

No worries my friend all is good in the saberhood.

Also, on the subject of different cat skinning methods: Actual Quartz Neocrystal!

While it was fun to break out the diamond tipped dremel tools, I think your cast Neocrystals are significantly easier to make. Less quartz dust in the air, for one. :wink:

Yeah I went down that road once. It's a bit of a pain and in mass volume not really feasible for me. Did you cut under water? You should if you didn't. Far less harmful dust.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: SirRawThunderMan on July 21, 2019, 02:18:37 AM
I did cut it to size under running water. Milling the LED recess was finicky enough that, in the end, I dipped it underwater to cool it every twenty seconds or so, to make sure I could still see what I was cutting, rather than having it under water at all times. So, dust got in the air.

I'm pretty sure my lack of experience/poor technique is to blame there. But then again, it's not as if I cut quartz every day, so I think that mitigates the health risks somewhat.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on August 11, 2019, 10:07:44 AM
I'm sure a lot of you are familiar with pick and pluck foam inserts that can be used for making custom foam inserts to store and protect your saber. I used it when I first started making custom storage boxes. But then about 2 years ago I came across Kaizen Foam. It's a dense foam that is assembled in peel-able layers and comes in a variety of thickness. You can use an adjustable "click-blade" to set the depth you want and cut your outline, Then you just carefully peel the layers out. Unlike the pick and pluck, the final surface does not have all of the checkerboard-like cubes so it looks much nicer in my opinion.Link after pic.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8543/NNhrwP.jpg)

Kaizen Foam - FastCap (https://www.fastcap.com/product/kaizen-foam)
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: SirRawThunderMan on October 06, 2019, 04:59:00 AM
Okay, here's one I've been using today. If you've ever hung around YouTube's carpentry/woodwork sections, you know there's just hundreds upon hundred of videos on chisel sharpening. Maybe watch them, and buy some chisels.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48852394327_a7e1fdb332_h.jpg)

Because when they're REALLY SCARY SHARP, they can totally shave aluminium.  :evil:
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: jbkuma on October 20, 2019, 10:42:23 AM
I've been working on prototyping a new tool and that has required me to rewire things a few times.  One tool that has been very handy is a seam ripper. It has been very helpful in removing heatshrink from components and wires without the various risks associated with using an exacto or similar.
(https://i.imgur.com/Im7zwNC.png)
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Darth Chasm on October 21, 2019, 04:52:04 PM
I've been working on prototyping a new tool and that has required me to rewire things a few times.  One tool that has been very handy is a seam ripper. It has been very helpful in removing heatshrink from components and wires without the various risks associated with using an exacto or similar.
(https://i.imgur.com/Im7zwNC.png)

Great idea! I always use my flush cutters but this would be much more efficient.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: SirRawThunderMan on October 24, 2019, 02:18:39 AM
Here's a thing I had no idea about: Mother's Mag and Aluminum polish also works wonders on brass.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: Ridire Fíréan on October 28, 2019, 12:37:01 PM
The major downside is that I've yet to come across a brand that isn't loaded full of lead, so it's not 100% safe, health-wise.

Hey @SirRawThunderman  !  Better late than never I suppose, but there are several brands out there that offer Lead-Free Solder Paste.

I bought MG-Chemicals SAC305 Solder Paste in a syringe.

https://www.tequipment.net/MG-Chemicals/4900P-25G/Solder-Paste/ (https://www.tequipment.net/MG-Chemicals/4900P-25G/Solder-Paste/)
Lead Free No Clean Solder Paste (https://www.circuitspecialists.com/4900p-25g.html)
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/MG-Chemicals/4900P-25G?qs=T9%2FYQF%252B4MzOyTyQ0hAyoCA%3D%3D&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2J6avdO_5QIVxpyzCh3BzANYEAYYASABEgKUEPD_BwE (https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/MG-Chemicals/4900P-25G?qs=T9%2FYQF%252B4MzOyTyQ0hAyoCA%3D%3D&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2J6avdO_5QIVxpyzCh3BzANYEAYYASABEgKUEPD_BwE)

It worked just fine after I first opened it, but it definitely has a shelf life.  The last time I tried to squeeze some out it was very difficult, and I had to take it out through the tube itself rather than through the needle.



Kester brand also makes several blends of Lead-Free Solder Paste...

R276 Solder Paste (https://www.kester.com/products/product/r276-solder-paste)


I used mine to solder CREE Leds on Tri-Cree Sink Pads in an Aven 17100-200 Solder Pot.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Aven-200-Watt-Lead-Free-Solder-Pot-17100-200/206750644 (https://www.homedepot.com/p/Aven-200-Watt-Lead-Free-Solder-Pot-17100-200/206750644)



I hope this helps!
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: SirRawThunderMan on January 12, 2020, 04:11:17 AM


This popped up on my YouTube recommendations earlier today. It's an over elaborate way of making brass washers from scrap. Not directly saber relevant, but Pocket83's method could be adapted to making the ever popular radiator disk-type crystal chamber assembly, for those of us who don't have lathes to easily machine brass disks with.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: SirRawThunderMan on July 06, 2021, 12:02:34 PM


Could be handy for staining saber crystals, too. If IPA prices ever go back down again.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: K-2SO on July 06, 2021, 03:57:49 PM
We use to use stain glass paint. I probably still have some in a few colors.
Title: Re: Obscure tools, tips & tricks of the trade
Post by: SirRawThunderMan on April 22, 2022, 07:44:07 AM
Here's one I wish I'd have learned much earlier:

When drilling through brass, USE CUTTING FLUID OR MACHINE OIL. It helps prevent workhardening from friction, and thus brass parts getting grabbed at high RPMs and flung all over your workshop.

This message brought to you by feeling like an idiot after years of constantly screwing up brass parts :cheesy: