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FX-Sabers Discussion - Including a Gallery of custom sabers. => LED SABERS => Topic started by: Yoda on October 14, 2006, 08:25:33 PM
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As far as the different saber types goes...
I've always felt it's important for all the aftermarket type companies bridge the Gap and utilize each others talents.
(and left over parts)
I like all the different saber types and the purpose of fx-sabers is to educate the potential saber customer as to
the options and levels of different Lightsabers currently available.
Be it replicas or customs...
Stock MRs, Luxeon Blades or Hyperblades.
I've been testing and reporting on the different sabers since we started
the site and add those companies to our "Recommended List" of worthy and honest Lightsaber companies.
People are spending a lot of money on their collections and we help them find what they want.
"Entry Level" Lightsaber.
With the MR's covering the Broad range of the spectrum as being the
Mass produced Hilts with 1 type of Jedi or 1 type of Sith Movie sounds.
LED strip type blade (light/mock Dueling choreography)
No assembly/installation required.
Priced from $75 - $135 New.
"High-Performance Level" Lightsaber.
The Luxeon and EL* has taken it to the Dueling friendly and removable blade
Custom or Mass produced hilts utilizing mass produced sound and or custom
driver electronics from the entry level sabers.
Various supporting electronics are available.
Some can produce visual effects and can be combined with sound from other sabers
for multiple types of custom configurations.
Requires assembly/installation.
Luxeon Bottom Lit Blade (Full Duel capability, choreography)
Priced from $175 - $600 New.
"Elite Level" LED component strip Lightsaber.
The Hyperblade Sabers up the ant'e not only in price but in features by creating an entirely custom
developed system with BOTH visual effects & integrated Sound.
The system is complimented by being able to choose from multiple Jedi or Sith sounds.
Configuration of Hilt and blade, be it removable or fixed is determined by user during construction & assembly.
Requires assembly/installation.
LED strip type blade (Dueling depends on assembly, can be built for Dueling or Display)
Priced from $ $600 - $1000 New.
"Elite Performance Level" Luxeon Lightsaber.
Using the new Ultra Sound and driver system or Plecter sound and driver system these sabers
are composed of entirely custom developed sound and LED driver systems with BOTH visual effects
& integrated Sound.
Some feature internal display components like Crystal Cores or Visual Dictionary styling.
Some systems are complimented by being able to choose from multiple Jedi or Sith sounds.
Configuration of Hilt and blade, for Removable/replaceable blades.
Requires assembly/installation.
Luxeon Bottom Lit (Full Dueling, Choreography)
Priced from $300 and up
Hilt design is only limited by your imagination, as there are many possibilities. ;)
As long as the Star Wars and Lightsaber Enthusiasts keep the demand
up, the products will follow.
I feel all the Companies and various levels of Lightsaber offerings
together make up an entire market and each has it's place.
They are "Art" to the consumer and cannot be classified as to what is better because of their differences and it is left in the hands of the Enthusiast looking for that special Lightsaber that they always wanted.
Although still vying for the Star Wars Audience...
They do not directly compete with each other and their co-existance offers a valuable variety.
One must simply have them all!
MTFBWY
always
YODA
(P.S. Plasma/neon based sabers have Glass internal blades and are not reviewed.)
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Yes, yes, to Yoda you listen!
An excellent summary, and a wonderful place for those new to sabers to begin!
Yoda, your professionalism continues to impress me. 8)
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Bump this topic I need.
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you should publish that in some SW magazine or somthing lol
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wowsers upto $1000 for a hyperdyne saber, what do you get for that? something that can melt through trade federation ship blast doors?
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Well Han if it could actually cut through things I bet we'd have to add a few Zeros to that number ;) :D
Thruth is that at the most expensive end of the scale with hyperdyne electronics coming in at $500 just for the
electronics ($185 to the blade alone) throw in a vintage graflex or a custom machined saber similar to any of the
parks/sith planet hilts and it adds up quickly... especially if needing international shipping.
But that is the extreme end of it.
We do expect to see great things in the future that will keep costs reasonable and still get many of the features
people are wanting 8)
We will simply see who get's to it first and does it the best :)
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looks expensive $600 is about £320 lol :D
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Yes $600 and up for a Saber is a lot of money and it still needs to be assembled.
It does have it's place in the market, and I feel the happiest owners will be those that
build their own when it comes to Hyperdyne's stuff.
Simply because then they will be able to maintain it better and make blade repairs if need be
as well as being familiar with it's internals due to the need to charge it up etc...
I'm personally excited to see the new developments from Ultra on His New Driver and Sound...
I think He will aim it to be more reasonably priced and will appeal to a larger audience of both
do it yourself, and ready made sabers.
Also since it will be a bottom lit set up the dueling factor is less stress and easier and cheaper to
replace blades.
I also think with the proposed effects it will have, that there will be a huge need being satisfied
and it will be cool to see it be more obtainable for everyone. 8)
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i suppose when i first heard that an fx cost £70 i thought that was expensive lol ;D
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same here
prices are coming down though recently
i got my obiwan for £69.
i paid £149 for my maul a few months ago
in 2005 i paid £90 for my mace, luke and ESb vader.
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yeah i paid £60 for my anakin from borders and iv seen a double maul for £140 on plsy.com so im gonna go for that 8) ;D
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If you think about what goes into making just a stock MR saber from the concept
to full production... they aren't that expensive and once you see how it is to custom machine things
you may appreciate the entry price even more.
The Aftermarket Dueling Conversions greatly help keep the Lightsaber interest and involvement thriving
in between the Expensive Limited hilt releases...
Something Automakers and their Aftermarket work well together... hopefully the Lightsaber aftermarket
can do the same to continue to grow 8)
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iv found my anakin to be very strong so far *touch wood* ;) iv had loads of dules and the blade is still perfect
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I think once I break my anakin MR blade,Ill upgrade to luxeon
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Hello Jedi's and Siths
I was wondering,... This Hyperdyne sabers with the extra strong blades,... are they twice as heavy compared with the origenal FXs?
How much will it cost me if I buy two V2 sabers Ani and Vader ESB with the loud sounds?
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Hello there Darth Matth
Yes the Hyperdyne blade is aproximately twice as heavy as a stock MR.
They are compareable in weight to a Thickwalled Polycarbonate blade in weight because they use 2 tubes.
The Complete V2 setups with Battery and charger are aproximately $485.00 EACH plus shipping.
You'll definitely want to visit the hyperdyne site and read up on it because it requires proper installation.
If you include the Anakin And Vader hilts at or around $75 each at their cheapest.
Alog with about $1000 for electronics for both.
Well you can see it will add up quickly :D
Be sure you really decide it's for you before spending that kind of money.
Asses your installation skills and how you plan to use them. 8)
MTFBWY
always
YODA
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good to know.
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I've updated the first post in this thread with the info about the Sound systems from Ultra and Plecter ;)
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Hi there folks .. Master Yoda \m/
I'm very new here, but not to the desire of owning a 'real' Lightsaber. 33 yrs and counting, or perhaps ever since I had a huge plastic hollow tubed ESB Vader saber (when I was 7). I never really felt it did my imagination justice and I prefered to use an aluminium torch with a circlular wooden fence pole I'd painted blue .. stuck in the end, held with carpet tape.
After recently discovering MakotoTsai's videos on YouTube, I have to have one. But I want to make sure I understand the difference in the blades correctly.
Am I right in thinking, with a Luxeon LED .. You won't get the 'powering on/off' effect as it's only a single LED source ? But you do have the option of altering the colour. Plus this appears to be the brightest.
So presumably, the other 2 types of LED do allow the 'power on/off' 'saber up/down' effect but are not as bright ? Is that right ? Also, are these able to vary in colour ?
In some of Makoto's videos, I was unsure if he was comparing his newest blade to the standard MR blade or the different types of LED
I hope you can help, many thanks
MTFBWY \m/
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@ Drahcir. Here's the breakdown a bit.
Luxeon LED's don't have the ramp effect like MR/Hasbro/ Makototsai LED strips do. Makoto's method is brighter compared to MR & Hasbro, but not necessarily for Luxeon LED. There are LEDengine 10watt or 15 watt engines that are very bright. I have 2 of the 10 watts (Green and Purple).
The major difference is when you duel with the blades. Since the Luxeon shoots up the empty tube, you can buy a heavy blade and pound on it to your hearts content and not worry about breaking any electronics (LED's). If you duel using MR/Hasbro or Makoto's method, then each individual LED's will possibly wink out and then you'd have to replace those ones to bring the brightness back up to it's original glory.
I forgot to add Hyperdyne to this, but it is the same as MR/Hasbro, so hope this helped a bit.
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That's great, thank you .. kind of what i suspected :)
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<shambling forward with a blank look> Brains..... BBBbrbrbrrrrraaaaaaiiinnnssss!!!! Always love it when the zombies get out! LOL
Search around, you'll find a ton of discussions about this.
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Hi guys I'm new.Just a question should I stick with this one from ultra sabers, that is the•High Powered Luxeon III LED
•NEW Fiber Optic UltraFILM blade or should I upgrade?I want a realy bright one thats faithful too the colour and brightness of Obiwans in episode1.
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Adamk, this should have posted in the Ultrasabers section of the forum btw.
Ultrasabers is always a good option. What do you want to upgrade? These says, Ultrasabers uses P4s which are much brighter then lux 3s. Most blades use film, it is the most common blade around. Ultrasabers will upgrade an FX blade with film. Any blade that Ultrasabers has is bright, there are sections on the forum that describe the different types. Use the search function accordingly.
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Hi Gchu149 :) Thanks for that information.I've ordered an Obi Wan TPM UltraFX, but I ordered it with the standard Blade that comes with it because I didn't see till later that you could upgrade the blade. But thanks for the help on brightness :), that means I can stick with the original blade I ordered.
I'll try and post a pic of it once it arrives in October sometime using my I phone. I'll put it in the pics gallery, if thats wear I should put it?. I'm still a fair bit scetchy as to where everything goes here.This place is like a fileing cabinet.....LOL
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Do not worry cause I tryed all kinds of blades, but the standard Blades are the brightest, have a metal look to it whcih is awesome, and they have that glowing effect while the Ultra Edge has that washed out effect.
It is lighted more completely but the bllade looks dimmer.
I'm sure you will be incredible happy with your choice.
This Ultra Conversion is even better than the removable blade sabers from Hasbro, cause this hilt will still light-up and have sound without the blade.
Which is kinda cool, pretending your a real Jedi.
(Although, I kinda love the new soundboards from Hasbro)
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Hi Darth Matth
THanks for the advice thats very helpful.Do the Ultrafx sabers come with the new Hasbro sound board.Or do you recommend I email Alex for this info?
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If those new boards aren't in them, Ultra isn't going to replace them.
Ultra does not do soundboard installs himself.
He only converts stock sabers to this amazing luxion sabers.
The Obi TPM doesn't have this newer soundboard to my knowledge.
Those are only in the new removable blade versions from Hasbro.
I don't think Hasbro will come out with a Removable Obi TPM, so you probably made the best choice.
There are other saber smids like the Gemini brothers that convert this saber as well, and they did a UB2.5 conversion too, but the price would be almost double than.
I'd say, be happy with the one you'll get.
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Hmmmmmm decisions,The new hasbro bladeless has the new sound board cool.I've heard the sound board master replicas put in theres because I had one of there Luke ANH versions.It sounded oooooookkkkkkkaayyy but what does the new hasbro bladeless one sound like?, do you know of any youtube links too it being used?
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Use the search Hasbro removable blade. :D :D :D
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Thanks,great idea!,I'll do that :)
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I really like the neon sabers...is there any way we can put the argon gas into polycarbonate tubes?
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Very Helpful. 8)
Thanks!
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the gasses in the tubes would not be as bright as luxeons and I think the blades (aside from being airtight) also have to be glass