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The S.A.B.E.R. GUILD: Saber Manufacturers => The CUSTOM SABER SHOP => Topic started by: QUI-GON JINN on February 25, 2011, 06:48:51 PM
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for those that think the Petit Crouton soundboard isn't loud enough, or plays too many swing sounds when it's sitting still, or that the ultrasound is louder/better, watch this:
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"quit cher whinin' and just build some sabers"
my new favorite quote.
Good comparisons Master Jinn, this will be a good reference topic!
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ooooooooo shiny.
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Awesome comparison man :) I personally can't wait for my PC-L saber to be done :)
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Great Video. I hope it helps certain people out. ::)
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WOW! what a awesome comparison to see all the most well known sound boards running at once :) man the quality of the PC's are great can't wait to finally get one for myself :)
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Thanks for the video Qui-gon,
Out of couriosity, do you have both of your PC sabers set to the same sensitivity?
I noticed the one was a lot more sensitive just sitting there, and was wondering if they have different settings or if the location of the board makes that much of a difference in the end result.
I will have my PC installed into my MHS saber tomorrow when the rest of my parts show up. Can't wait.
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You're right about two things:
1) The only time your saber should just be left humming on the table is if you're making a video(like this one).
2) There's nothing wrong with the PC.
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Liked the video, nice to see the difference resonance can make even with some of the best boards. Also, I can see how some wouldn't appreciate the PC going off like that. In the video you said the soundboard was right on top of the battery pack so it could be helped my moving it right? Unless of course the size of the saber doesn't allow such a thing! It would bother me if my saber never had a nice hum I could count on and simply made sounds while sitting still, I think there is a nice balance to be had. From what I've seen before, and just from this video the PC definitely has the capability for that balance and is really an amazing soundboard.
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Thanks for the video Qui-gon,
Out of couriosity, do you have both of your PC sabers set to the same sensitivity?
I noticed the one was a lot more sensitive just sitting there, and was wondering if they have different settings or if the location of the board makes that much of a difference in the end result.
I will have my PC installed into my MHS saber tomorrow when the rest of my parts show up. Can't wait.
The one that was going nuts with the swings while it was sitting there does that because the soundboard is located on top of the battery pack and also directly in front of the speaker. The swing sensitivity settings are not the same, either. The setting in the config file for CS-35 was 0.67, and the RLSA saber's is set to the stock 0.55. The RLSA saber was getting multiple swing effects triggered by the vibrations caused by the speaker being one inch away from the swing sensor on the board. That's the proof that the board functions best when it's the furthest away from the speaker as you can get it.
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"quit cher whinin' and just build some sabers"
QFT!!!
Nice sabers Qui-gon.
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;D Thanks Jay, good comp. Nice, as there is a lack of such. ;)
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"quit cher whinin' and just build some sabers"
So true.
Sabers are cool. :D
Theres only a few things where one would want a saber humming on it's place; Review/Showing the saber vid or doing an insane super-saber-chorus.
Thanks for the vid! Reminded me of how painful the 2.5 sec. "off-protection" on the US was :D
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Thanks for the awesome video Qui-gon. very informative to the nay Sayers.
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Great vid Jay
Man your custom sabers are beautiful works of art.
You can see the hours you put into them.
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having read a few posts on sound issues with the new PC-L this is a really usefull vid, .. no sound board is perfect, all of them have pro,s and cons... yep i agree totally with one of your last statements during that vid, most of the fun comes from actually building the lightsaber, just make the best of what you have.
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Sigh, I never thought the US was better or louder. I was just pointing out that I didn't have enough resonance...
Let me put it in black and white. The PC-L is the superior soundcard ti the ultrasound in every way and when resonated correctly, is louder as well
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Excellent work Qui-gon.
Thank you for a good comparison.
I was thinking the sensitivity with the swings could be considered a bonus. Turn the saber on at a party while it's in the stand and you are getting some action just leaving it in the stand, not just the idle hum.
But the fun is when you swing it around.
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i got a quick question about the PC manual. On the basic wiring diagram, is the orange line for the ground lead? And the ground lead is ALWAYS negative?
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I believe Erv always uses blue as the ground in the diagrams.
Ground is always negative.
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so orange is the auxilary?
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so orange is the auxilary?
Orange is the auxiliary, yes.
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Thanks for taking hte time to do this comparo Master JINN. Everything you say in the vid is true. For those of you who put your speaker close to the board, you will get swings (a hazard of analog sensors) so just adjust your sensitivity. Also, occasionally the little ball in the sensor will get "stuck" (happened to me during shipping a couple of times). It can be "unstuck" by hitting hte saber's blade on something soft a few times (a few solid whacks) and you ought to be good...or send it back in the mail for repair and it will be fixed all by itself by the time it gets to MH ;)
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Just thought I would share a quick video of my PC install progress.
Soundfont is Darkmeat for those who have not heard it.
I am waiting on a few parts but decided to do a dry run.
Sounds nice and loud to me. Can't wait to finish it.
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi797.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy251%2Fdarthsmorgis%2Fvideos%2Fth_Video8.jpg&hash=78b0bb9a941ad3254992011837260664e0a8791f) (http://s797.photobucket.com/albums/yy251/darthsmorgis/videos/?action=view¤t=Video8.mp4)
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:D :D
Nice video jay!!Some people would complain if they won a new corvette.They would say how come the car did not come with a full gas tank lol :D :D
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:D :D
Nice video jay!!Some people would complain if they won a new corvette.They would say how come the car did not come with a full gas tank lol :D :D
Right on Brotha! Well said. :D
@D. Smorgis- nice vid man. The Darkmeat is pretty cool huh. ;D
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The PC is the second best soundboard available to the CF! I've spent hours, days, months waiting for this to finally be available for the public only to read some complaints. How loud do you really want your saber? It really bothers me to read post on which others try to help others but get ignored. I'm very happy with the PC and will continue to support those who brought this possible ;) :)
BOOM!!!
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having read a few posts on sound issues with the new PC-L this is a really usefull vid, .. no sound board is perfect, all of them have pro,s and cons... yep i agree totally with one of your last statements during that vid, most of the fun comes from actually building the lightsaber, just make the best of what you have.
I think that applies to all soundboards..............except crystal focus. But then again, I' have never owned one so I dont know its limitation. However, because I have never physically touched one, I shall continue to bow down to its seemingly divine prowess.
The PC is the second best soundboard available to the CF! I've spent hours, days, months waiting for this to finally be available for the public only to read some complaints. How loud do you really want your saber? It really bothers me to read post on which others try to help others but get ignored.
Are you talking about posts in general? or are you bothered by the posts in this thread. It may be naivete optimistic nature speaking, but I don't really see complaints and people being ignored. I see people worried about their soundboards that they probably never owned before (because...well...before recently, acquiring a PC was perhaps even more difficult than acquiring a CF, simply because it was not sold in public, unlike the CF where you had a chance with the F5 button) and the board was doing things that they "think" is unnatural(again, I think I have to stress that this is probably their first time holding a holy grail's child, which is still more complex than your everyday FX/Hasbro soundboards).
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The link to download the PC PDF Manual on the TCSS site is not working for me... would someone mind sending to to me in email? enaswede@msn.com
Thanks! :-[
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The link to download the PC PDF Manual on the TCSS site is not working for me... would someone mind sending to to me in email? enaswede@msn.com
Thanks! :-[
Sent! ;)
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Sent! ;)
Got it... Thanks! ;D
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can the pc run 10 watt leds?
which ones can it run?
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Yes. It depends on the set up.
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nice 1 what set up would it need to run 1
im my graflex?
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The setup would be two series pairs in parallel. Not a great solution for cool colors (green, blue, cyan and white) I'm afraid :(. Red, amber, yellow, orange and purple work well. Without getting too technical, it is because the forward voltage of the blue, green, cyan and white exceeds the 7.4V set up so you will be under powering the LED. Add that to the fact that the current available from PC is right at 1.5A (vs. the 2A available on CFV5), which will give you right at the minimum current of 750 ma per die, there is no ability for the current to help compensate for the under powering. Honestly, for a blue, green, cyan (Lux V only) or white you'd be better off with either a 5W LEDEngin, a Lux V, or a P4.
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cheers.. 5 watt it is then
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Also, keep in mind the 10W is a $30 LED so if you can't maximize it's potential either with multi-die effects or with full power, it may not be worth the added cost. Of course a Lux V is pricey too, particularly since they are no longer being made :'(.
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Those 10 watters are best suited for a CF.
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Those 10 watters are best suited for a CF.
100% Agreed.
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Great info here thanks guys!
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Good to know. I was looking at a 10 watt Led also. Not anymore!
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This has changed with PC 2.0 which can now handle more power :D.
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Thanks. Just picked one up!
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Does anyone have experience with these speakers on PC http://www.railmasterhobbies.com/Speakers.htm (I refer to the last of the page).
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I believe Jay gon has used some of those speakers, and they were of good performance.
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Do not recall, but I read something about them suffer some distortion ???. This may be related with the DI of hilt? If anyone has more information I thank you.
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I have used he railmaster speakers with both the pc 1.6 and the cf 5.1 and noticed any distortion. They worked just fine with both soundboards.
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Even with some doubts I made the purchase of two speakers. With this information I am sure of a good business. Thank you.
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I have to point out that while those railmaster speakers have more headroom (hence much less distortion) than the regals, they are noticeably lower in volume. The difference is like 3 and 4 on the volume setting of a CF which is quite a big difference.
I promptly went back to those regals. The only time I encountered distortion with regals is when I converted a track with too high of a volume for use with isaber. Never encountered distortion yet with any soundfonts with the exception of Episode II by Novastar. But Novastar already admitted that that font will be problematic with newer CF.
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Which Regals are you currently using 1W or 1.5W.