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Jedi Temple => FX-SABERS Archives => Inactive / Removed Manufacturers => Topic started by: Yoda on April 25, 2014, 01:25:06 PM
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Hello everyone
The Staff here at FX-SABERS have received messages about various issues in regards to Kit Fisto
about outstanding orders, shipping problems and communication.
We have tried numerous times to contact Him and unfortunately have had no success in doing so.
Hopefully no tragedies have befallen Him and we will hear back on what needs to be attended to.
At this point in time we regrettably need to suspend His Mining Colony and Moderation Activity
until these issues get resolved.
If you are a member of fx-sabers and have an outstanding transaction, work in progress or
shipping discrepancy that you are in need of communication on please post in this topic
so that we can keep track of what is happening and hopefully help to get in contact with Him
and find resolution for those members who need assistance.
If you have heard from Kit Fisto and or have updates/information please post here as well.
MTFBWY
always
The FX-SABERS Counsel
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Hope Kit is okay. :-[
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Same :'(.
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This is a bummer. Hope everything is okay with him.
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I hope kit is ok, though I am still waiting for my for my axis hilt from him
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Thanks for letting us know Aginor. Please folks, if you have outstanding transactions with KIT post here so that we can document. Thanks :).
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JYN has been off the grid lately but he has informed me that he is out 2 sabers with KIT.
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Thank you Jedicri, it is appreciated. We are aware of his situation :). Please continue to post here and we will continue to work on things on our end.
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hope he is ok. he has had my sam3k that was sold on the forum needed a reinstall he has had it for 1 year now...
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I hope kit is ok, though I am still waiting for my for my axis hilt from him
I have an empty from his run. If he never resurfaces, then your axis AND my Nocturne Armory version that I sent back to him for repair, most likely won't either :'( I would be willing to sell mine for cheap +shipping if you'd like. Let me know :)
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Any more news on this?
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I think he's actively selling on eBay right now. I could be wrong but I think so.
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I think he's actively selling on eBay right now. I could be wrong but I think so.
Links? I would be very interested to see if this is true
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Yah I was wondering. Think I just bought a cf7 from him.
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I think this might be him.
Custom Lightsaber Soundboard Igniter R4 with ADDON Mixing Board Tru Color New | (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-lightsaber-soundboard-Igniter-R4-with-addon-mixing-board-tru-color-NEW-/231231465138?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35d67826b2)
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I think this might be him.
Custom Lightsaber Soundboard Igniter R4 with ADDON Mixing Board Tru Color New | (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-lightsaber-soundboard-Igniter-R4-with-addon-mixing-board-tru-color-NEW-/231231465138?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35d67826b2)
Yes I can confirm that is his ebay account.
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Not trying to spread rumors or say anything out of place. But when I spoke to the person selling on that account they said they were the ex and had gotten it all in the separation.
So I guess the ex wife then.
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Custom Lightsaber Soundboard Igniter R4 with ADDON Mixing Board Tru Color New | (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-lightsaber-soundboard-Igniter-R4-with-addon-mixing-board-tru-color-NEW-/231231465138?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35d67826b2)
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Not trying to spread rumors or say anything out of place. But when I spoke to the person selling on that account they said they were the ex and had gotten it all in the separation.
So I guess the ex wife then.
Not that it's NOT true but if that were my situation my wife wouldn't have the slightest idea how to title the sale let alone what it's worth.
I'm betting the numbers of vaders vault type couples where both are really aware of this hobby is very very small.
But hey, it's a big world with lots of possibilities.
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Maybe. But not sure why they would lie.
I think though with how easy it is to look things up on the Internet nowadays that it wouldn't be to hard to get a ball park. If you look at the recent items that have sold some are priced high some too low. (How I scored my cf7)
Also if you read the description on most of them it sounds like she kinda knows but yet doesn't.
But if that is what happened that would explain his absence. Sad times. Hope he is doing alright.
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Maybe. But not sure why they would lie.
I think though with how easy it is to look things up on the Internet nowadays that it wouldn't be to hard to get a ball park. If you look at the recent items that have sold some are priced high some too low. (How I scored my cf7)
Also if you read the description on most of them it sounds like she kinda knows but yet doesn't.
But if that is what happened that would explain his absence. Sad times. Hope he is doing alright.
I find it extremely odd that his wife would have wanted saber parts from their split, and even stranger that she would be allocated those parts when the business and hobby was Kit's. What entitlement would she have to that and why would she be granted it? If she was a partner in the business (i.e. the Vader's Vault team) then she would know exactly what they are and how much they are worth, invalidating the idea that she doesn't quite know what she is selling.
As far as why they would lie, in the current state it seems that Kit walked out on numerous builds and projects. If he/they wanted to make money off those projects and other they certainly cannot sell it here, so they circumvent FX and sell it on eBay using that story as cover. This is hypothetical, of course, but is certainly a valid reason as to why they would lie. If Kit indeed walked out on these projects and stole people's money its all the more reason to NOT tell the truth.
Mods, has anyone thought about maybe getting in touch with the ebay vendor and touching base about Kit? Its possible that the ex-wife might know his situation or whereabouts, and I think its a logical, straightforward step to take considering all the people who are getting shafted right now.
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I'm sure the Mods will handle this as they have previous issues like this.
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Maybe. But not sure why they would lie.
I think though with how easy it is to look things up on the Internet nowadays that it wouldn't be to hard to get a ball park. If you look at the recent items that have sold some are priced high some too low. (How I scored my cf7)
Also if you read the description on most of them it sounds like she kinda knows but yet doesn't.
But if that is what happened that would explain his absence. Sad times. Hope he is doing alright.
I find it extremely odd that his wife would have wanted saber parts from their split, and even stranger that she would be allocated those parts when the business and hobby was Kit's. What entitlement would she have to that and why would she be granted it? If she was a partner in the business (i.e. the Vader's Vault team) then she would know exactly what they are and how much they are worth, invalidating the idea that she doesn't quite know what she is selling.
As far as why they would lie, in the current state it seems that Kit walked out on numerous builds and projects. If he/they wanted to make money off those projects and other they certainly cannot sell it here, so they circumvent FX and sell it on eBay using that story as cover. This is hypothetical, of course, but is certainly a valid reason as to why they would lie. If Kit indeed walked out on these projects and stole people's money its all the more reason to NOT tell the truth.
Mods, has anyone thought about maybe getting in touch with the ebay vendor and touching base about Kit? Its possible that the ex-wife might know his situation or whereabouts, and I think its a logical, straightforward step to take considering all the people who are getting shafted right now.
Also, if you have made a purchase or been involved in a listing you can get a members contact information. You go to the eBay advanced search, type in the item number you were involved in, the member name and a CAPTCHA and you then get an email with the sellers address and telephone number :)
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Speculation and hypothetical guesses won't get us anywhere. The ADMINS are looking into the situation.
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I'm sure the Mods will handle this as they have previous issues like this.
:-X ::)
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It doesn't hurt for those affected to do their own investigating, as it were.... I know I would...
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Not saying this is what happend but I would think if he just up and walked out on her. Then she would get everything he left behind.
Maybe she would be willing to return uncompleted projects to there rightful owners. With of course the proper truth.
Was he part of the vader vault?
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Not saying this is what happend but I would think if he just up and walked out on her. Then she would get everything he left behind.
Maybe she would be willing to return uncompleted projects to there rightful owners. With of course the proper truth.
Was he part of the vader vault?
No, he wasn't. As Qui Gon said, the ADMINS are looking into it.
From past experience, and I've seen this several times, I would highly recommend that they be allowed to do their investigating unimpeded. Things usually tend to turn out "better" that way.
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This sucks to hear. I don't want to add any speculation, as FJK said it's best left to the admins and those directly involved, but for what it's worth regarding the eBay situation, when I had bought a saber from him, he had said something about he and his wife trooping for the Rebel Legion, so his wife very well may know a lot about saber tech. My point is I wouldn't necessarily doubt that the seller is his wife, and from my conversations with KIT a year ago I know they were still married. So a divorce/big life change could be the cause of him dropping off the radar.
Hope the staff here can contact him soon and sort this out.
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Yah I totally agree let the mods sort it out from here.
I think it's pretty sad and I feel bad for all those involved.
Hopefully everything works out in the end.
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This sucks to hear. I don't want to add any speculation, as FJK said it's best left to the admins and those directly involved, but for what it's worth regarding the eBay situation, when I had bought a saber from him, he had said something about he and his wife trooping for the Rebel Legion, so his wife very well may know a lot about saber tech. My point is I wouldn't necessarily doubt that the seller is his wife, and from my conversations with KIT a year ago I know they were still married. So a divorce/big life change could be the cause of him dropping off the radar.
Hope the staff here can contact him soon and sort this out.
this all may be true....but if you own a business and your primary method of business dealings just mean updating customers via message thru a forum/ email.... a divorce doesnt stop you from having internet connection.... internet is at the public libary.... at the least
If you decide you are in a position to collect money from a community of enthusiast... shouldnt you also be in a position to communicate w/ them too at all cost?
IDK
but it's weird
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Oh, yes, I agree with all that. I didn't mean to suggest otherwise. I only meant to provide insight that his wife could actually be the eBay seller, and there wasn't necessarily reason to believe it's KIT lying about his identity. I wasn't even speaking on KIT himself really. Sorry if it was interpreted that way by anyone who has money/sabers to lose in this.
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sale going on as we speak. my apologies if this is a repeat
Custom Lightsaber Soundboard Igniter R4 with ADDON Mixing Board Tru Color New | (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-lightsaber-soundboard-Igniter-R4-with-addon-mixing-board-tru-color-NEW-/231234256065?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35d6a2bcc1)
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"Brand new, never used Igniter R4 Soundboard by NEC products or something. This auction is for both components for as I understand it they are both required in order to get the majority of effects in a custom lightsaber. Both brand new only taken out of this little pink bag to take these pics. There's also 2 little.....resistors or something that come with this and will be in the little pink bag. I don't know much more about this but I'm sure you lightsaber enthusiasts know volumes about this stuff :) "
Based on the description of the item, I'd say that it's either Steve's wife that is running the auction, or him trying not to seem "too knowledgeable" about it ??? Did his other sales have such vague descriptions? As others have mentioned previously, IMO, getting separated/divorced does not mean that you lose all contact with the outside world, especially with those whom you do business with. Even if he went into the witness protection program, there are ways to make contact - c'mon. I'm sure the ADMINS are doing their best with the limited authority and resources that they have, but I've yet to see a situation like this end satisfactorily for all those involved. Can anyone say "Duccos Rossis" >:(
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Again Folks, we are handling the situation to the best of our ability and as quickly as we can. I would like to emphasize again that we do not need a mob force of support to help us out. ;) We've handled things like this before, and will do so again.
If you have any questions, feel free to post them or PM any staff member. But insinuations, theories, and the like are discouraged- as this helps no one. The eBay links are helpful, and we will look at those as well.
Thanks.
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I have message into the ebay seller:
Hello, I am a moderator on the FX-Sabers.com forum, QUI-GON JINN and am wondering if this is the account of a fellow moderator there that is known as KIT FISTO who runs "Saberhead Custom Sabers." The reason I ask is that we are looking into concerns from members of the forum that have outstanding commissions with him and have had no contact from him for over three months. If this is you KIT, we need you to contact a staff member ASAP. - Thanks, Jay.
I will let you all know the response if I receive one. Can we please stop the speculation, and only post in this topic if you have an outstanding transaction with him? Thanks.
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Sorry. Wasn't trying to speculate. Just wanted to pass on the info I had gathered after purchasing from them/her..... Anyways. Hope it was helpful and not harmful in the end. Wish I could give more but it would violate ebay polices. I know a lot of people are upset. I'm sure the mods have it all under control.
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Any news as all items are now SOLD
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What we need at this time is all folks who have outstanding merchandise with Steve to post in this thread. I also need anyone who actually sent him funds who has not received the product or service they paid for to post in this thread and also PM me transaction numbers. Even if you have PM'd me before, please do so again. We CANNOT help if we do not have the information so PLEASE, if you have anything outstanding with KIT, let us know ASAP!!! If you do not want to post publicly, PM me confidentially.
Once we have all the outstanding transactions compiled, we will be assisting our members with pursuing legal action.
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BUMP, people we still need information on this. We are trying to get a list of any and all affected members. Help us to help you C:-).
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have you heard anything from Kit, is he ok
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I bought a cf6 and CEX from kusbana on eBay before I knew it was Kit.
Been over a week and have not received it.
A label was printed but it was never shipped.
Opened a case w/ eBay
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did you receive your cf6 justin and E13azar did you get your cf7?
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I bought a cf6 and CEX from kusbana on eBay before I knew it was Kit.
Been over a week and have not received it.
A label was printed but it was never shipped.
Opened a case w/ eBay
The 1 that you ordered. . was it the new 1 in the package or was it the 1 with all the wires on? Because if it was the 1 with all the wires on it I received that board and somebody else received my board and a I guess he or she or whoever is doing it didn't send yours out or the 1 leftover to go to you because of the mixup. the last time I heard they were having all the boards sent back to them to get sorted out and ship it back to us .
So to recap basically what happened is whoever was selling these boards: accidentally mixed up all free crystal focuses that they sold around the same time I received an old one version 6.5 with wires all over it and some crummy soldering.. somebody else on eBay that left a comment said I'm very pleased that I received a model number newer then what I paid for.. which was my board the 7.0 because if you look at what they purchased they purchased the 6.5 and then obviously you didn't receive yours. So what I did was I had contacted eBay and they contacted all the other buyers. I'm surprised that you did not receive an email from eBay explaining this.
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what was the name of the person on ebay who received yours E13azar
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did you receive your cf6 justin and E13azar did you get your cf7?
I received only a cex and an igniter....
Returning them cuz eBay said I can get my money back.
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what was the name of the person on ebay who received yours E13azar
I tried and tried in vain to try to figure out the name of whoever received my board. But unfortunately for me at least, eBay does not display the user name of people that have won items. However if you look under the recent feedback for that seller you can see my feedback and then you can also see their feedback saying that they received a newer board then what they paid for. and then if you click on the link you can see that they paid for a 6.5 0 crystal focus.
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I would recommend filing an eBay dispute before your time is up, E13azar and anyone else who is affected.
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I would recommend filing an eBay dispute before your time is up, E13azar and anyone else who is affected.
Talking to ebay now about possible solutions. Wish I could find out who received my card and ask them to return it so I can get it. If I were a betting man I would say they were probably a member here.
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This is the risk you take ordering something like this from eBay as opposed to buying from a reputable distributor.
I paid for used crystal focus six and color under instead I got igniter(non-mini) and a color extender and two batteries
Returning it all to get my money back. I have no faith they will get it right
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This is the risk you take ordering something like this from eBay as opposed to buying from a reputable distributor.
I paid for used crystal focus six and color under instead I got igniter(non-mini/the over heater) and a color extender and two batteries
Returning it all to get my money back. I have no faith they will get it right
Hmm yep I had your board here at my house. Looked pretty good had some poor wiring though. Took everything in me not to desolder the whole board just so it would look nice. Sent it back.
I'm worried whoever got mine has already wired it up. Hopefully if they send it back they knew what they were doing. Especially since it was supposed to be a new board.
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This is the risk you take ordering something like this from eBay as opposed to buying from a reputable distributor.
I paid for used crystal focus six and color under instead I got igniter(non-mini/the over heater) and a color extender and two batteries
Returning it all to get my money back. I have no faith they will get it right
Hmm yep I had your board here at my house. Looked pretty good had some poor wiring though. Took everything in me not to desolder the whole board just so it would look nice. Sent it back.
I'm worried whoever got mine has already wired it up. Hopefully if they send it back they knew what they were doing. Especially since it was supposed to be a new board.
I've had issues with ebay before and they can't get anyone to do anything and if they want to keep the item there's nothing ebay can do. They basically tell you to go to court if you really want to get it back. That's why I'm very careful with ebay. I hope all works out but I'd def try to get my money back and write it off at this point.
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You have to file an item not as described claim, and ask for your money back. Otherwise, the time will go by and you will miss out on any chance to file claim. Based on the whole situation, I would just try to get my money back and move on. Obviously up to you.
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Hello everyone
Here is the 3rd message I've sent to the eBay account (sans the personal info)
Dear kusabana83,
I am in need of getting in touch with xxxxx known as Kit Fisto on my website fx-sabers.
Last known address:
xxxxxxx
xxxxxx
xxxxxx
xxxxxx
There are numerous outstanding transactions with forum members from my website and we have not
had any response from Steve (Kit Fisto) for a few months now.
The customers that have outstanding transactions are in need of some sort of response as to
the status and whereabouts for the items and payments sent to Steve for services/products.
Some of these transactions are outstanding for over a year and need to be addressed as soon as possible.
Please get back to me so I can help to find a solution for both Steve and the His Customers.
sincerely
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(aka YODA Owners of fx-sabers) PH:xxxxxxx
- fx-sabers
This person has contacted one of the Moderators but not me myself yet and there is no excuse for it :P
If I do not get a response by tomorrow I will be taking the next step and report back to everyone what I find out.
I assure you I am unbelievably upset about this >:(
Myself and the Mod staff here are doing what we can but what we have the ability to do is limited.
However we are here to help back up/validate any claims for those involved.
MTFBWY
always
YODA
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did you receive your cf6 justin and E13azar did you get your cf7?
I received only a cex and an igniter....
Returning them cuz eBay said I can get my money back.
Received this message today from kusbana......
"I am being screwed by a Justin Marshall in Castro Valley, CA. He currently has your board and has refused to ship the actual thing back. I sent him out his correct board and he still filed a claim for wrong item sent. I proved I sent the right item and he still is requesting a full refund. Ebay said he had to send it back and provide tracking, and he sent a package back with NOTHING INSIDE IT. I have filed an appeal with ebay and have provided them with what evidence I have that I am being scammed here, so hopefully I will have something concrete to inform you of shortly. I am very sorry, this sucks.
- kusabana83"
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We all know this isn't true. It's not in Justin's character. He's a very good friend of mine and I know he will have some resolve for this particular issue.
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We all know this isn't true. It's not in Justin's character. He's a very good friend of mine and I know he will have some resolve for this particular issue.
I'm not trying to accuse anyone. But it would be easy enough to prove if Justin would be willing to give his eBay username. Because the person that has mine left that feedback like I said about receiving one newer than what they ordered and being very pleased. So all I would have to do or anyone would have to do if they had Justin's eBay name is to look under recent feedback left for others and if it doesn't have that then great.
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You might want to reach out to Justin first and allow him to clear things up before posting things like this because it's not fair that he gets thrown under the bus for Kits wrong doings. All this does is bring more people into the mix and complicates things more when the focus should only be on Kit.
Just my opinion.
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You might want to reach out to Justin first and allow him to clear things up before posting things like this because it's not fair that he gets thrown under the bus for Kits wrong doings. All this does is bring more people into the mix and complicates things more when the focus should only be on Kit.
Just my opinion.
Will do. Sorry. Didn't mean to throw anyone under the bus. My police instincts kick in sometime. I'm a investigator by nature.
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Lol! No worries. I'm just looking at it from an outsiders perspective. I'd hate for Justin to get a bad wrap for doing nothing wrong. I hope everything works out for you.
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E13azar the correct way to go about this is to file an eBay dispute. It doesn't matter if Justin is the person who received your board, that is between him and eBay. He can't send you the board or he will not be protected by eBay. The proper procedure is to follow eBay's protocols as these were eBay transactions, not forum transactions.
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You might want to reach out to Justin first and allow him to clear things up before posting things like this because it's not fair that he gets thrown under the bus for Kits wrong doings. All this does is bring more people into the mix and complicates things more when the focus should only be on Kit.
Just my opinion.
Will do. Sorry. Didn't mean to throw anyone under the bus. My police instincts kick in sometime. I'm a investor by nature.
You may not have meant to throw anyone under the bus but posting an accusation made from someone on Ebay against a forum member is just that.
If you had suspicions then you should have sent that to the admins.
Since you have now made an Ebay dispute public I now have to do the work to clear it up.
First of all, as a lesson. Ebay transactions are separate from the forums here. If you have a problem with an ebay transaction the correct action would be to open a dispute.
This is the risk anyone takes when using ebay ESPECIALLY for saber parts.
I know you might want your Cf7, the correct way to go about it is to get a refund from ebay then pay the full price for a Cf7 from Plecter Labs...
The 15$ you may have saved may not be worth all the time asking other members and posting here.
I understood that, which is why when I got the wrong items after waiting 3 weeks for my items, I didn't go muck raking here to try and get what I paid for.
I have requested a refund and I am sending my box back since it is not as described.
Here are the details and order of events for you E13azar and everyone else:
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Original ebay transaction paid for on may 17
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Didn't receive my items for over 2 weeks so this case was opened.
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Items in Box
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Old Box Label
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box&items
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I Had no faith that I could get my cf6, so I am sending back all items including the one that was correct to get a refund. I opened the above dispute w/ ebay instead of asking around here at the forum and ebay ruled in my favor.
So if someone is waiting for an igniter here it is. On their way back to the incompetent person that sent them
The cex is what I paid for, so one no one is missing that, but I am still sending it back so I can rightfully get the refund.
WHAT A GIANT WASTE OF TIME
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New Label Ebay gave me to send back box and get refund
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by the way I never got my cf6.5..... they claim they were sending it....
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I get your frustration Justin, believe me I do, and I also agree that you should not have to be answering for something that isn't your fault. This being said, using super large font just because your annoyed also does nothing to solve an issue and only begins to frustrate other members who have to read through silly large fonts.
I think this needs to get back to people simply saying what it is they are out of pocket on, and the details of how they came out of pocket. Then let the Admins and Mods do what they said they are trying to do. They have more of Kits details than many other members on here as part of being in the MC etc is giving such details to the admins etc.
Let them do their job, and remember, they don't have to work hard to try and find a solution for everyone as it is in no way their fault that this has happened, and yet they are giving a large amount of their time trying. I haven't been wronged by Kit, but feel for all those that have and still feel the need to say a massive thanks to the FX-Sabers Staff who are trying to find a solution
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I get your frustration Justin, believe me I do, and I also agree that you should not have to be answering for something that isn't your fault. This being said, using super large font just because your annoyed also does nothing to solve an issue and only begins to frustrate other members who have to read through silly large fonts.
I think this needs to get back to people simply saying what it is they are out of pocket on, and the details of how they came out of pocket. Then let the Admins and Mods do what they said they are trying to do. They have more of Kits details than many other members on here as part of being in the MC etc is giving such details to the admins etc.
Let them do their job, and remember, they don't have to work hard to try and find a solution for everyone as it is in no way their fault that this has happened, and yet they are giving a large amount of their time trying. I haven't been wronged by Kit, but feel for all those that have and still feel the need to say a massive thanks to the FX-Sabers Staff who are trying to find a solution
Fonts adjusted.
And unless you need to state the items or services that are outstanding of your from kit fitso saberhead conversions. Really no other reason to post here.
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E13azar the correct way to go about this is to file an eBay dispute. It doesn't matter if Justin is the person who received your board, that is between him and eBay. He can't send you the board or he will not be protected by eBay. The proper procedure is to follow eBay's protocols as these were eBay transactions, not forum transactions.
I understand. And I will be opening a dispute. I posted that info here simply because I felt it was relevant to the discussion. I'm sorry if I offended someone. The way that I see it is now we have more info that this person is lying. Until this point I was not convinced that Kusbana was kit fisto. Like I said before they told me they were not. And I had no reason to not believe them.
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You might want to reach out to Justin first and allow him to clear things up before posting things like this because it's not fair that he gets thrown under the bus for Kits wrong doings. All this does is bring more people into the mix and complicates things more when the focus should only be on Kit.
Just my opinion.
Will do. Sorry. Didn't mean to throw anyone under the bus. My police instincts kick in sometime. I'm a investor by nature.
You may not have meant to throw anyone under the bus but posting an accusation made from someone on Ebay against a forum member is just that.
If you had suspicions then you should have sent that to the admins.
Since you have now made an Ebay dispute public I now have to do the work to clear it up.
First of all, as a lesson. Ebay transactions are separate from the forums here. If you have a problem with an ebay transaction the correct action would be to open a dispute.
This is the risk anyone takes when using ebay ESPECIALLY for saber parts.
I know you might want your Cf7, the correct way to go about it is to get a refund from ebay then pay the full price for a Cf7 from Plecter Labs...
The 15$ you may have saved may not be worth all the time asking other members and posting here.
I understood that, which is why when I got the wrong items after waiting 3 weeks for my items, I didn't go muck raking here to try and get what I paid for.
I have requested a refund and I am sending my box back since it is not as described.
Here are the details and order of events for you E13azar and everyone else:
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs16.postimg.org%2F42qfyybz9%2Fimage.jpg&hash=63268c95fb147fdd36179e3d93e1b04dd8025afa) (http://postimg.org/image/6wtlcee5d/full/)
Original ebay transaction paid for on may 17
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs16.postimg.org%2Faugv1t0yt%2FUntitled.jpg&hash=0ab483520446d2ef807c5df9bd575a26c04b2d1a) (http://postimg.org/image/gin5sp5b5/full/)
Didn't receive my items for over 2 weeks so this case was opened.
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.postimg.org%2Fhs1i640oh%2FIMG_5193.jpg&hash=8437100f82c31187fd0c23c59c032e39c1451b03) (http://postimg.org/image/gczxhdzl9/full/)
Items in Box
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.postimg.org%2Fn0rxq8tpt%2FIMG_5194.jpg&hash=410b9cfda400e4c70a47201c7270cf7f44e77bfb) (http://postimg.org/image/mb95dvt65/full/)
Old Box Label
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs30.postimg.org%2F66umozgfl%2FIMG_5195.jpg&hash=3993de61f5188e3eaed1c76837f5cbd5eabf2267) (http://postimg.org/image/afzcr5jot/full/)
upload picture (http://postimage.org/)
box&items
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs16.postimg.org%2Fk3j1bx9ut%2FUntitled2.jpg&hash=7cc5d793fd479de222a3b41a5dded2df55119819) (http://postimg.org/image/6zdgz8hsx/full/)
I Had no faith that I could get my cf6, so I am sending back all items including the one that was correct to get a refund. I opened the above dispute w/ ebay instead of asking around here at the forum and ebay ruled in my favor.
So if someone is waiting for an igniter here it is. On their way back to the incompetent person that sent them
The cex is what I paid for, so one no one is missing that, but I am still sending it back so I can rightfully get the refund.
WHAT A GIANT WASTE OF TIME
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.postimg.org%2Flqypoxpbl%2FIMG_5198.jpg&hash=7b348d6c404ec6bcb26d9d86ca804eed418427a2) (http://postimg.org/image/su6l4jur1/full/)
New Label Ebay gave me to send back box and get refund
photo hosting (http://postimage.org/)
Once again I apologize for any misunderstanding. Like I said I was just relaying info. If you like I can adjust my original post.
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any news azar on who the other ebayer is (i take it its not justin then;) or any news on what kit or his wife said to the mods here when they got in contact after yodas msgs
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any news azar on who the other ebayer is (i take it its not justin then;) or any news on what kit or his wife said to the mods here when they got in contact after yodas msgs
Not that I know of. I escalated my case with ebay today. And erv is sending me a new one soon as I get my money back.
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Okay people this thread go completely de-ralied with the ebay items discussion and that is
actually a separate issue so please lets get back on target.
Once again...
If you are a member of fx-sabers and have an outstanding transaction, work in progress or
shipping discrepancy that you are in need of communication on please post in this topic
so that we can keep track of what is happening and hopefully help to get in contact with Him
and find resolution for those members who need assistance.
I'll start off by giving an example for a forum member who contacted me about it.
Example:
Member Name: Jedi Yar nala
Replica Graflex
CF v5.10
Slothfurnace ESB Gold card
Korbanth QGJ hilt
Igniter Mini
Please simply post as shown so we can help you relay this information accurately about the transactions.
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Any word on the situation?
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any updates on what happened with kit fisto
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Chafaris
Empty Parks Defiance hilt
CFv4.3
I purchased both at the same time. The thread is here: Cleaning house, Parks saber, CF, MR soundboards, empty sabers (http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=36237.0)
I commissioned and paid him to install the CF into the Parks hilt, along with some other work on it.
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It looks like the kennyxyz.1982 ebay account is listing Kit Fistos aka Saberhead Custom Sabers stuff that may be FX members.
Custom Lightsaber Swtor Axis Lightsaber Converted with CF V5 Crystal Chamber | (http://www.ebay.com/itm/custom-lightsaber-SWTOR-axis-lightsaber-converted-with-CF-v5-crystal-chamber-/161710061345)
Daddy solo's missing saber I FOUND MY UNICORN!! UPGRADED 11/22/12 (http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=37315.msg504784#msg504784)
Please keep an eye on the kennyxyz.1982 ebay account as your items may show up.
http://www.ebay.com/usr/kennyxyz.1982?_trksid=p2047675.l2559 (http://www.ebay.com/usr/kennyxyz.1982?_trksid=p2047675.l2559)
kennyxyz.1982 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/sch/kennyxyz.1982/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=25&_trksid=p3692)
Buyers Beware.
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There was a listing last week for an Obi TPM that supposedly came from JQ with a CF 6.1
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It looks like the kennyxyz.1982 ebay account is listing Kit Fistos aka Saberhead Custom Sabers stuff that may be FX members.
Custom Lightsaber Swtor Axis Lightsaber Converted with CF V5 Crystal Chamber | (http://www.ebay.com/itm/custom-lightsaber-SWTOR-axis-lightsaber-converted-with-CF-v5-crystal-chamber-/161710061345)
Daddy solo's missing saber I FOUND MY UNICORN!! UPGRADED 11/22/12 (http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=37315.msg504784#msg504784)
Please keep an eye on the kennyxyz.1982 ebay account as your items may show up.
http://www.ebay.com/usr/kennyxyz.1982?_trksid=p2047675.l2559 (http://www.ebay.com/usr/kennyxyz.1982?_trksid=p2047675.l2559)
kennyxyz.1982 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/sch/kennyxyz.1982/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=25&_trksid=p3692)
Buyers Beware.
Hey Fella's - long time no speak. It's mainly because of this whole Kit Fisto thing that I don't hang around here any more, but as of Tuesday - I'm back baby. Sure enough, for all the crap I (and other members) took for calling out Steve - it once again turns out we were right. As Jango posted above - my NA Axis saber that Steve claimed he never received for repair 3 yrs ago has turned up for sale on eBay from his (supposedly ex-wife's) acct. I'm not sure how this is gonna play out, but I will keep you posted
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Welcome back. The axis could also be mine, I never even recieved mine from the run he did. >:(
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Welcome back. The axis could also be mine, I never even recieved mine from the run he did. >:(
There were 2 listings. One was daddy solo's NA Axis. I screen capped it with the CC INTERNALS matching what Kit had done.
Immediately after that first listing was done, ie sold, a second Axis listing went up and it was an empty from the Axis Run. That empty could have been yours Aginor.
Custom Lightsaber Swtor Axis Lightsaber Kit with CF and CEX Ready for Install | (http://www.ebay.com/itm/161710056515)
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Thanks Jedicri, you beat me to it ha ha. Some of the pics of the saber with the Crystal chamber are actually pics that I took of it. The rubberized clamp card, and the brass kill key I had Master Jehavo make for it are the Dead giveaways. The second saber listed was from Kit's own axis run. Maybe that one is yours? This debacle never seems to end :/
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This is nothing but a bad taste in my mouth for being done the same way in other venture. I feel your pain.
I only hope some gets in the community and brings them back to the owners. Even at the price if I had won it I'd give it to you just to be right.
We all know bidding on this is unknow and even whoever wins this don't mean they will get it. C:-)
It's just sad sorry I had to chime in.
I just hope you guys get what's right.
Good luck and hey dudes their's still love out there for guys! Glad you guys are back. I think we a family here.
MTFBWY
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Hello everyone
I sent Pm messages a while back about what I have tried to resolve this and what others can do to take
the steps necessary to find some resolution and or at least put a stop to any more missing items being
sold off on ebay etc…
Well its happening again ::)
I've not heard anything new but I'll go ahead and post my findings publicly here as it may help.
At the time there were only a few people who messaged me or Luminara with their information
so I didn't have a whole lot to go on but we did see items being sold on ebay.
The First ebay ID/seller we have tried contacting was Kusabana83 whom we believe is Kit (Steve)
account and that perhaps His Wife was selling things through it because apparently there was
a rumor He was in a Rehabilitation center.
Whether this is true or not was irrelevant and I explained many of these items belonged to other people.
If indeed it was Steve's Wife I was talking to it wasn't for very long.
Kusabana83 replied to me only once through the eBay messaging complaining about people who
won an auctions on ebay and filed disputes and that they were willing to possibly help get things
sorted out however shortly after that contact was made there were other people who started to
Contact Her that seem to have confused the situation and I never heard anything back.
I've tried calling the number I have for Him countless times as well as email and again contacting
the ebay ID but I've not been able to get any more responses to date.
I reported the items and seller to ebay and called their fraud/security division to make them aware.
Shortly after that Kusabana83 stopped selling items and we all saw Kennyxyz.1982 selling item
that appeared to be the same and could possibly be a friend selling things for him/them.
Not knowing for sure I decided to go with the only recourse I could which was to start calling the authorities.
I did have contact with Jedi Yar Nala who was one of the first people to start having issues with Kit Fisto.
JYN provided me with His transaction info and any pertaining information and links to build threads etc…
so I could attempt to get some sort of case file started on behalf of those that are owed items from Kit Fisto.
I first called the Lawrence Police Department and then the Wichita FBI and explained that a member
of my website that had transactions/commissions with other members of my website had never delivered
the items and that either refunds or items were owed and that this also apparently happened on other
web sites by the same person.
I also explained that we suspected many of these items we knew about were being sold off on eBay.
The Local Police were not very much help to start but the guy at the FBI was a bit more receptive.
Unfortunately He explained to me they are inundated with these types of online problems and
that the online fraud department typically doesn't pursue small time individuals unless they are
hacking into banks and that sort of thing.
I myself can not open a case as I have no transactions with him, He was a volunteer here on the site
and also belonged to other websites where He has done the same thing.
They also told me that until anything can be actually proven that it is all He said She said speculation and
online discussions are not considered proof or admissible evidence since the content can be altered.
When asking if I could get some sort of case file started on behalf of those that are owed items I was told
no but that I can instruct others to take the proper steps so that the authorities in His area can look into it.
I gave them all of His information, like phone and last known address etc… so that they would have it
on file and once others started reporting it with their Paypal or ebay transactions they would have
at least something to go on.
Here is what I've been told to relay to those who have transactions with Steve (Kit Fisto/Gil Gamesh)
and are owed refunds for services not provided and or items that were not completed etc…
1. You must have an actual Paypal or ebay transaction to show them and or some way of showing
the items you suspect belong to you are being sold on ebay.
(Personal pictures or references that are being used on ebay will also help)
2. Contact your Local Police department and bring them your Paypal or ebay transaction records.
3. Ask your local Police department to open a case and contact the Lawrence Police Department.
From there it will be up to the Authorities as to whether or not they will get involved and I have been told
that the most likely outcome is for people to simply file personal claims and try to take Him to court.
However if the Lawrence Police Department gets enough people all filing reports about the same guy
they chances of them physically looking into it do increase but there is a problem there…
If they decide to confiscate the items those items may be difficult to retrieve so make sure each of your
reports and transactions are accompanied by pictures if you have them for identification.
If you have any other questions I will do my best to answer them but I'm not a lawyer and can only
advise those of you to proceed as stated above.
Previously I or other Admins/Mods had been only messaging with those we knew were involved, but now
since there are people showing up that were originally missed I feel it is necessary to let everyone know
what we have looked into what those affected need to do and if we can be of any more assistance please
let us know.
MTFBWY
always
YODA
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I supplied all the info requested to Luminara back in April 14. If you need more, I'll be happy to provide it. I have detailed records of everything - including my case with the Dept of Consumer Affairs. Yoda - did you contact ebay about the sabers that were sold yesterday???? If so, my saber may have slipped my grasp again as I am the one who tried to buy mine back. :/ I'll most likely get my money back, but I'd bet the farm that my hilt goes underground again if the seller just got scared off. Yeesh. Thanks for trying to help out though I guess
As an aside, apparently his photobucket account is still active - this may help anyone recognize any stuff that Steve may have "borrowed" permanently:
AXIS Photos by norbits | Photobucket (http://s77.beta.photobucket.com/user/norbits/library/AXIS#)
password is axis12
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I supplied all the info requested to Luminara back in April 14. If you need more, I'll be happy to provide it. I have detailed records of everything - including my case with the Dept of Consumer Affairs. Yoda - did you contact ebay about the sabers that were sold yesterday???? If so, my saber may have slipped my grasp again as I am the one who tried to buy mine back. :/ I'll most likely get my money back, but I'd bet the farm that my hilt goes underground again if the seller just got scared off. Yeesh. Thanks for trying to help out though I guess
As an aside, apparently his photobucket account is still active - this may help anyone recognize any stuff that Steve may have "borrowed" permanently:
AXIS Photos by norbits | Photobucket (http://s77.beta.photobucket.com/user/norbits/library/AXIS#)
password is axis12
Hello there Daddy Solo
Yes we did get your info as with JYNs but as I mentioned there isn't anything else I can do about peoples transactions
other than advise them to follow the proper procedure for reporting it as everyone has to individually file a case.
Basically I'm not a lawyer representing anyone so I have been told to stay out of it
For the eBay items I have not contacted ebay because I can not prove what was what and its not my property
though I believe He used your actual pictures for the auction? So this may help your situation.
First your local Police department is where to start the filing but you can certainly call the Authorities in His area
to see if you can report items on ebay but I'm not sure what they will tell you.
Lawrence Police Department (785) 830-7400
Wichita FBI number (316) 262-0031
You may want to take screen shots of Pictures you find that could be removed by ebay or if the user in breaks the
links in photo bucket by deleting the image.
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Thank you for your advice Master Yoda. I've already screengrabbed everything I could - including all my pm's w/ Steve, as well as any public statements he and any other mods, members, admins made when stories of his improprieties became known to you and your staff.
I'm pretty sure of the reaction I'm gonna get if I call my local police precinct here in Brooklyn and tell them I wanna file a report cuz someone in Kansas stole my lightsaber ::)
Technically, mail theft (especially w/ the interstate component) is a federal offense, but after spending countless hours on the phone and filing reports w/ USPS customer Service, the Dept of Consumer affairs, and the fraud/theft division of the USPS (basically the legal enforcement branch of the PO) I can tell you it was pretty much a waste of MY time.
As long as no one scares off the current ebay seller, there's at least a small chance I may ever see my saber again - damaged or otherwise. I still don't have much hope - ESPECIALLY if someone's gonna raise a red flag w/ eBay and the seller goes underground again. :-X
As for how this forum (and its Mods and Admins) has handled itself with regard to Steve's illicit activities, I'd be more than happy to discuss the matter privately if you'd entertain the notion. Thanks again for your interest
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Can one of the mods or admins please tell me why your former moderator and mining colony member Kit Fisto aka Steven Fletcher's screen named has been retroactively changed back to Gil Gamesh? When I look back through all the correspondence I had with him in the past on this forum publicly and privately via pm, it was listed as "Kit Fisto" - indicating he was a member in good standing here. Now there's no indication that "Kit" aka Steve was ever one of your representatives. Thanks for your honesty and transparency in helping those of us that got burned by him sort out our "difficulites" ie, theft of our property and money
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I was informed he has been active on other websites, as recently as 04/30/15. Ergo he he has been actively ignoring his responsibilities to his clients here and his duties as a mod.
Until such time as he makes things right to his clients and informs the admin staff the reason for his absence, his status is of a normal member, and his original user name is restored.
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That makes sense given the current circumstances, but why make the change retroactively? You do realize that screenshots of past posts/threads will appear differently than what is currently being displayed, correct? I know as a doctor, any retroactive alteration of my patient's charts would not reflect flavorably upon me should any allegations of improprieties be investigated.
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Forum software does not work that way.
Changes made to usernames,sigs, custom titles avatars or just about anything in the "forum profile" will be made unilaterally across the forum soft ware. Even locked topics. There is no date specific range in the settings.
Your screen shots are still valid.
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I have pulled together all the contact info I can find, and will make it available via PM to anyone that is missing items from Kit Fisto aka Gil Gamesh. It is against FX policy to publish these on the forum, so please don't post them.
It's what we have on file here and contact info from the kennyxyz.1982 ebay account.
I hope it will aid some of you in filing charges with your local law enforcement, small claims court and the IC3 http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx (http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx)
and
Lawrence KS Police Department | Your site for city services. (http://police.lawrenceks.org/)
I only ask that you include a link to the missing items, so I can keep track.
Feedback for Gil Gamesh aka KIT FISTO (http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=10842.msg171766#msg171766)
In case you have not left any yet.