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Jedi Temple => Inactive / Removed Manufacturers => FX-SABERS Archives => Hyperdyne => Topic started by: Scorpion on August 18, 2009, 09:23:24 AM
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Defo be getting this 1 or mabey 2 LOL
update vid...
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Try and see what the specs are...you may want to compare and contrast to some of the other higher end soundboards...
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Until more features are announced and a demo are produced, comparisons are not really fair at this point.
It's nice to see the patent holder for "patented technology of accelerometer-based motion sensing" is finally going to release a soundboard after so long a time in development.
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Pretty cool!!!! lookin foward to it! ;D
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It's nice to see the patent holder for "patented technology of accelerometer-based motion sensing" is finally going to release a soundboard after so long a time in development.
Ditto
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Until more features are announced and a demo are produced, comparisons are not really fair at this point.
It's nice to see the patent holder for "patented technology of accelerometer-based motion sensing" is finally going to release a soundboard after so long a time in development.
I totally agree Jango. If this is a comparable board, as to quote nadgrok Now maybe some people can offload some of their sabers you [hyperdyne] so kindly have spent enormous amounts of time vero-ing.
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Not defending hyperdyne but I have seen this coming. It would be unwise for Hyperdyne to not keep up with the other technology. I mean, rather going after others who have developed their own SB, the perfect way to "fight back" IMO is to be ahead of the curve. I mean they own the patent why not do something with it instead of spending ENORMOUS time surfing evilbay veroing other products. Its like Zune veroing apple because they sell an mp3 player too ??? ???
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On the other hand, isnt the micro SD card idea and sound bank ideas Erv's? Very hypocritical in every sense of the word. >:(
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well its great to see it. i would like to see us embrace another sound board option, rather than bring up old issues. can you not let it go?
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well its great to see it. i would like to see us embrace another sound board option, rather than bring up old issues. can you not let it go?
i wholehartedly agree . let ther be peace
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As for the board, it sounds pretty good. Now if he will make it affordable, it will be good. I like the pitch change when the board is held in a different position. It adds some class ot it.
I modified this, so as not ot derail this topic. Lets have a nice quiet discussion abotu the board. i'm eager ot hear oyu alls opinions on how it sounds. ;)
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well its great to see it. i would like to see us embrace another sound board option, rather than bring up old issues. can you not let it go?
It's not an old issue. I beleive there was recentkly a saber with a US 2.1 veroed on Ebay. It's still happening friends. ;)
As for the board, it sounds pretty good. Now if he will make it affordable, it will be good.
Even if it were an "old" issue... it is the cause of many hard feelings and ill will between many different sabersmiths and hyperdyne. Asking some fellows to just let it go is not going to do much good, especially since you are talking about alot of bad blood and even lost money since a vero'd lightsaber means the smith was not able to sell it as easily as it should have been.
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I for one would love there to be peace, but Hyperdynelabs continues to persecute end users on ebay. I have had 2 auctions veroed in the last two weeks.
They will not answer why they do this other than to defend their patent. To defend a patent you got to court, not surf Ebay and Vero auctions.
Its like Zune veroing apple because they sell an mp3 player too
QFT
Do they want a piece of the sale? recognition?
Hyperdynelabs is not saying anything.
I would like to give them a chance and purchase one and give an honest reveiw, but there has been to much bad blood and if i were critical of it in anyway the disturbance would hound me to no end.
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Has anyone ever challenged the Vero? It would then be up to them to decide whether or not they wanted to try ant take you to court over it. Just wondering because I have been reading about the Veros but not about if they have ever prosecuted or not. Really the Vero is just a safeguard for eBay so they are not ever liable for loss.
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On the other hand, isnt the micro SD card idea and sound bank ideas Erv's? Very hypocritical in every sense of the word. >:(
Thats about right, its the sort of childish revenge to be expected, am I the only one that can see a CF clone? ::)
JANGO, rightfully said. Hound isn't the word with Mark its twist and insinuate, not even worth being social to him let alone getting involved with. >:(
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On the other hand, isnt the micro SD card idea and sound bank ideas Erv's? Very hypocritical in every sense of the word. >:(
my thoughts exactly as well.. first thing that popped into my mind when watching the vid..
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Has anyone ever challenged the Vero? It would then be up to them to decide whether or not they wanted to try ant take you to court over it. Just wondering because I have been reading about the Veros but not about if they have ever prosecuted or not. Really the Vero is just a safeguard for eBay so they are not ever liable for loss.
Have you looked into the VeRO process? eBay wants nothing to do with counter claims...
check this out for a review on VeRO:
http://reviews.ebay.com/eBay-Vero-What-you-Must-Know_W0QQugidZ10000000005857926
it explains everything in ghastly detail
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I understand the frustrations on selling them, i really do . is there not another place for people to rant other than this sound topic . i read fx forums cuase i like the group as a whole. being a hyperblade fan, i would like to read this topic or other positive information about Hyperdyne without all the hate. thats all.
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On the other hand, isnt the micro SD card idea and sound bank ideas Erv's? Very hypocritical in every sense of the word. >:(
my thoughts exactly as well.. first thing that popped into my mind when watching the vid..
well to be honest, Erv isnt the only one with a sound card that uses sound banks and a micro SD card either... ReplicantFX does as well, only they don't use them for lightsabers
I understand the frustrations on selling them, i really do . is there not another place for people to rant other than this sound topic . i read fx forums cuase i like the group as a whole. being a hyperblade fan, i would like to read this topic or other positive information about Hyperdyne without all the hate. thats all.
I understand where you are coming from... but a forum is a place to share all ideas and opinions... NOT just the rosey ones in a particular thread. There should be freedom of speech on this forum to a point. Not just "Hey this is an Hyperdyne thread, lets only post positive things here"
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well to be honest, Erv isnt the only one with a sound card that uses sound banks and a micro SD card either... ReplicantFX does as well, only they don't use them for lightsabers
and neither go around trying to 'stop' others form inventing or furthering the hobby..
I know quite well that RFX projects use SD cards.. lol
and do/can use them for lightsabers.. its up the 'users/developer' to put the chip to whatever uses they like. ;)
but for one 'camp' to say: "hey Im doing this..I did it first....how dare you"... to using others ideas is funny..
They cry foul whenever anyone uses an accelerometer.. but then use pitch shifting or SD cards?
c'mon...
either way.. to be honest outside of business/moral practices..the product itself sounded good..
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So I wonder what the price will be. I kind of remember Hypers stuff being very expensive. Any guessers? Should we make a poll?
I'll take 1 Milllllllllllion dollars.
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So I wonder what the price will be. I kind of remember Hypers stuff being very expensive. Any guessers? Should we make a poll?
I'll take 1 Milllllllllllion dollars.
actually Lando, i thought abotu posting that, but figured it might have been a little rude coming from me. :D ;D
I figure $200-$1,000,000 :D ;D
(More like $250)
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So I wonder what the price will be. I kind of remember Hypers stuff being very expensive. Any guessers? Should we make a poll?
I'll take 1 Milllllllllllion dollars.
actually Lando, i thought abotu posting that, but figured it might have been a little rude coming from me. :D ;D
I figure $200-$1,000,000 :D ;D
(More like $250)
hmmm that is a bit pricey I think... but probably about right
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So I wonder what the price will be. I kind of remember Hypers stuff being very expensive. Any guessers? Should we make a poll?
I'll take 1 Milllllllllllion dollars.
Thats cheaper then I expected.
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Very funny.
Let's keep the bashing/jokes to a minimum.
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I was reading the eBay statement on it. http://pages.ebay.com/help/tp/programs-vero-ov.html and they state that if you file the counter notice your auction is reinstated and then it is up to the copyright holder to decide whether they will file a court order restraining you.
There are obviously many scenarios that could unfold. 1) they could say our patent doesn't hold water and give up or 2) they could file a restraining order and a) you could give up or b) could go to court and fight over whether the patent is legit or not. etc. etc.
I just wondered if anyone had ever filed a counter notice and whether the patent was legitimized in court or what not.
Has anyone ever challenged the Vero? It would then be up to them to decide whether or not they wanted to try ant take you to court over it. Just wondering because I have been reading about the Veros but not about if they have ever prosecuted or not. Really the Vero is just a safeguard for eBay so they are not ever liable for loss.
Have you looked into the VeRO process? eBay wants nothing to do with counter claims...
check this out for a review on VeRO:
http://reviews.ebay.com/eBay-Vero-What-you-Must-Know_W0QQugidZ10000000005857926
it explains everything in ghastly detail
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Interesting...
I don't think that was an option when I was Veroed in January
MC
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The 1 Milllllllion dallars was just a joke for all that have seen Austin powers. Most of the joke I was making would come from the rest of that seen. ;)
What I am guessing (no bashing intended) is it will be expensive. I remember when I first thought of Hyperdyne as a solution for my saber desires, I just about fell out of my chair when I saw the prices for just the components. I'm not talking a bout a complete saber built for me, but just the sound board driver and LED ladder. I was completely precised out of that type of saber at that time. So I did what most did. MR conversions until I could get a CF or US.
It does looks like he has gotten the size of the board down a few inches, which is good. I just hope the price comes down in size too. We shall see. It will be interesting to see what kind of options the board will have. Also what was the reason for the pitch change when the blade is vert pointing up verses vert pointing down?
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well i cant wait for it iv bin waiting for sound in my hyperblade for a very long time
and im ova the moon its comming.
at least now people know its comming as apposed to speculate wether its comming
calling for peace among us no more slating one another no more veroing ebayers... cant we just all get along?
its not a war thats in iraq! quit it guys and just enjoy the hobby
and by that i mean EVERYONE
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The 1 Milllllllion dallars was just a joke for all that have seen Austin powers. Most of the joke I was making would come from the rest of that seen. ;)
What I am guessing (no bashing intended) is it will be expensive. I remember when I first thought of Hyperdyne as a solution for my saber desires, I just about fell out of my chair when I saw the prices for just the components. I'm not talking a bout a complete saber built for me, but just the sound board driver and LED ladder. I was completely precised out of that type of saber at that time. So I did what most did. MR conversions until I could get a CF or US.
It does looks like he has gotten the size of the board down a few inches, which is good. I just hope the price comes down in size too. We shall see. It will be interesting to see what kind of options the board will have. Also what was the reason for the pitch change when the blade is vert pointing up verses vert pointing down?
I asked for a quote for a purple blade and driver and it was $392, so I know what you mean.
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Also what was the reason for the pitch change when the blade is vert pointing up verses vert pointing down?
I don't quite get that feature either. I'm pretty sure sabers didn't do that in the films.
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Yeah, some of the technology is a bit pricey, but then again you get what you pay for. Hopefully the soundboard lives up to Jim's ability this time. The original sounded horrendous, but his Vortex system is astounding.
It retails for $399 + shipping, but I was lucky enough to get it for $325 shipped and no waiting.
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I'd never give Jim Shima a dime of my money, but it does seem like he's finally stepped up the quality of his board. It sounds pretty good and if it doesn't cost $200+ it will probably do him well enough.
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I'd never give Jim Shima a dime of my money, but it does seem like he's finally stepped up the quality of his board. It sounds pretty good and if it doesn't cost $200+ it will probably do him well enough.
being MORE than a CF wouldnt be a good business move IMHO... but I guess hes known to be 'expensive'? so who knows..
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Yeah I think $399.00 is going to be a tad to much for most, even me
and maybe even LDM.(I forgot who I was talking about) ;D
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Sounds good.
With the whole VERO policy, I was always of the opinion that if you're gonna attempt to deny other people the ability to move this hobby forward using this technology, at least offer the community a viable alternative. So this is a step in the right direction.
But as others have mentioned, for many people there's the issue of affordability, if and when this board is released. No matter how advanced this board may end up being, $300+ per unit won't exactly make these fly off shelves.
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Well at least it doesnt sound like an old vacuum cleaner now ;)
As for him offering an alternative I guess when your product is twice the cost of the other players' and cant compete in the free market on price nor innovate features just play catch up with what those others were doing two years ago well then right there is a classic example of the kind of motive for litigious twerps and cowards to try to shut others out of the market to prevent competition eh?
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Nah $399 was for the Vortex system. And I purchased mine second-hand, not from Jim. Why it was cheaper and there was no wait period.
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;D
can you give us a little sound sample on a video of your vader box?I'm wondering how good it sounds!! :-\
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I was checking it out on his forums earlier and saw that the soundboard itself doesnt seem to drive the LEDs. it looks to be a seperate module still. Id have thought he would have loosened up and designed a competetive board that works with different tech.
maybe Im wrong, I guess we'll see, although I dont liike his vero practice, Id still welcome another quality SB to help ease the demand weather I bought one or not.
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I was checking it out on his forums earlier and saw that the soundboard itself doesnt seem to drive the LEDs. it looks to be a seperate module still. Id have thought he would have loosened up and designed a competetive board that works with different tech.
maybe Im wrong, I guess we'll see, although I dont liike his vero practice, Id still welcome another quality SB to help ease the demand weather I bought one or not.
Though if this is the case... a soundboard that needs a seperate driver is just taking up precious space in an already small enclosure right?
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Both of you are correct. It requires a separate board to drive the main LED
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Both of you are correct. It requires a separate board to drive the main LED
but that doesn't sound like a smart design idea?
I mean unless you have a huge saber to stick that in
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Well maybe it's his intention in doing it that way that you can only use his blades with his soundboard [?] and only use his soundboard with his blades [?]...to try and force [pun intended] users to an ALL Hyperdyne 'solution' by having all his components incompatible with anything other than his components...well we can all see how that 'closed' approach made Apple the market leader in desktop computing... ::)
Trying to play 'dictator' to the Market rather than letting the customer have freedom of choice...yeah that works well in the modern world... ::)
Well maybe his marketing theory is we DO have a choice: 'all Hyperdyne all the time' or he'll try to make sure through VERO our only other choice is no saber at all....but we still have a 'choice'... ;)
*ahemcontrolfreakahem*?
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are they suppose to go on top of eachothr like two slices of bread?
either way great for hyper products tech but not for the majority of the FX market as
I see it. I see way more Luxeon type sabers than Hyper/makato type sabers
I know hes all up on his own tech and whatnot, but why limit your sales to those few who
like that tech.? makes little sense in a business scheme. he ust needs to accept the majority are not going to use led ladder blades, no matter how bright they are. we like our flashlights!
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are they suppose to go on top of eachothr like two slices of bread?
either way great for hyper products tech but not for the majority of the FX market as
I see it. I see way more Luxeon type sabers than Hyper/makato type sabers
I know hes all up on his own tech and whatnot, but why limit your sales to those few who
like that tech.? makes little sense in a business scheme. he ust needs to accept the majority are not going to use led ladder blades, no matter how bright they are. we like our flashlights!
on a positive note.. maybe the driver board is small....and can fit in a ribbed section or other small places?
maybe it 'will' be for a LED.. and there might be 'several' options to choose from? oncs maybe for tri-rebels or other RGB(A) type leds? so you can drive them all individually?
I know that wouldnt be the first time that idea has been explored.. ;)
if it 'is' some hyperdyne scheme...then it may fail.. people like options.
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on a positive note.. maybe the driver board is small....and can fit in a ribbed section or other small places?
wanna see the driver board?
http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?p=961484#post961484
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I don't see any reason that a driver can't be on the same board and require yet another board to do so when it already takes as much space as a CF. Plus the vid showing the board did less to impress me than an MR board thus far. If he can really pull off something better than a CF then so be it and I would go for it. Far as I'm concerned he's got a whole lot to prove waving his patent around and veroing auctions that have better products than he's sold so far. Plus if all it can do is compete with a CF and has a higher price tag he's crazy.
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on a positive note.. maybe the driver board is small....and can fit in a ribbed section or other small places?
wanna see the driver board?
http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?p=961484#post961484
OMG!...
that thing is HUGE!.. why? why so much wasted space on the board? HOLY CRAP!...lol
when were exploring using a 'daughter board' LED driver for the RFX project..
this was the size of the board (for a single LED/DIODE driver board).. the 3/4 LED driver board was a longer of course and was still smaller than that I bet!.. (and that would have driven a RGB(A) led each diode individually so you could dynamically color mix through code.. blue blade...red flash on clash..or whatever..etc)
(https://dmstudios.net/misc/rfx_pcb/driver_size.jpg)
not much bigger than a nickle..
keep in mind that was NOT professionally made.. I made that use some RadioShack etching kit.. and my LASER PRINTER at my house!... just so I could test the driver.. and it has PWM support...etc
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You can actually see the driver board hanging under his hand around 0:15 into the youtube video... I noticed it as soon as I saw the video...
It does seem that he have finally produced a decent soundboard.
But I won't buy it...
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See here is what happens when people "jump the gun". the link to the picture of the board is missing something. The orginal post, in hyperdyne forums, which by the way is the best information on whats going on, has this under the picture of the board
Jim say's " BTW, can you see the next step if things go well? Removing the cable and making one long board that does it all! I like the cable right now since 1) it can be made to fit in different hilts easier, 2) the sound module can be used separately (that is, it doesnt need our driver to operate). "
wow, how about that. please research and find out about the facts before bashing something. the board is around 1x2. before people say well that means its going to be 1x4 when its done.thats way to long. wait for the FINAL product before reviewing it. Jim just let us see a PROTOTYPE at this stage thats all we know. review it when it is finnished shall we?
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if he (or anyone for that matter) doesnt want feedback or opinions...then dont post a prototype.. its that simple.. post when you have a finished board.
if he wants to post something... then people will discuss it.
if the driver board POSTED is that big..people will comment on that..
same thing if hat IS the final sound board pics..people will discuss that as well.
if someone wants to publicly post something on the internet.. they need to be prepared for feedback both good and bad...(period)
See here is what happens when people "jump the gun". the link to the picture of the board is missing something. The orginal post, in hyperdyne forums, which by the way is the best information on whats going on, has this under the picture of the board
Jim say's " BTW, can you see the next step if things go well? Removing the cable and making one long board that does it all! I like the cable right now since 1) it can be made to fit in different hilts easier, 2) the sound module can be used separately (that is, it doesnt need our driver to operate). "
wow, how about that. please research and find out about the facts before bashing something. the board is around 1x2. before people say well that means its going to be 1x4 when its done.thats way to long. wait for the FINAL product before reviewing it. Jim just let us see a PROTOTYPE at this stage thats all we know. review it when it is finnished shall we?
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if he (or anyone for that matter) doesnt want feedback or opinions...then dont post a prototype.. its that simple.. post when you have a finished board.
if he wants to post something... then people will discuss it.
if the driver board POSTED is that big..people will comment on that..
same thing if hat IS the final sound board pics..people will discuss that as well.
if someone wants to publicly post something on the internet.. they need to be prepared for feedback both good and bad...(period)
See here is what happens when people "jump the gun". the link to the picture of the board is missing something. The orginal post, in hyperdyne forums, which by the way is the best information on whats going on, has this under the picture of the board
Jim say's " BTW, can you see the next step if things go well? Removing the cable and making one long board that does it all! I like the cable right now since 1) it can be made to fit in different hilts easier, 2) the sound module can be used separately (that is, it doesnt need our driver to operate). "
wow, how about that. please research and find out about the facts before bashing something. the board is around 1x2. before people say well that means its going to be 1x4 when its done.thats way to long. wait for the FINAL product before reviewing it. Jim just let us see a PROTOTYPE at this stage thats all we know. review it when it is finnished shall we?
there is a difference of giving a unbiased opinion/comment/review and just simply bashing. No one here would take the same harsh tone about a board if built by Master Yoda. It just that the vero issue has caused a hate towards hyperdyne, so anything he does is bashed. the vero thing is a seperate issue. take it as you will. if you go back and read from the beginning of this topic, you will see a tone that does not resemble (except a few post ) anything constructive and if people cant see that,there is something wrong here!!!
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Vero'ing aside, he still has a lot to prove as everything promised over the last quite a while has produced nothing tangible. If its still a prototype not near production why post pictures of something that won't be what your going to sell (seperate driver and sound boards). If it turns out to be the greatest thing since sliced bread I'm sure people will want them. This is basically what I said before that I would give it a chance if it proved to be a better product and didn't cost a fortune. Also if it were that high of quality and always available could set it apart from others we hold dear today as well. As everyone knows based on all prices for what he has sold to this point though I don't expect it to be all that affordable. There just has to be something shown that people want grow anticipation for the board. So far by everything shown its no more than things we've already seen for years by other people.
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I stated the sound portion sounds good..
I think..even if people do NOT like HD.. 'some' will still buy his boards.. to test..to use..(whatever)
I 'also' think that is Yoda posted a driver board that was that big..he'd be getting the same feedback.. bar none.
There just isnt a reason for it to be that big.. maybe the 'final' version wont be.. or maybe it was a 'test driver board'... however 'that' is the one he posted..
and just like any seller/business.. the past guides the future.. and future thoughts about said seller/company. (vero'ing aside).. if a company is known to have high prices.. ..whos fault is that? you project the 'image' you want for your business. from what "I" gather.. he does things HIS way.. its not for a 'community/consumer' based approach..its from a personal/profit/business approach. Thats his prerogative.. however image can hurt or help you. And even if tings 'arent' true or as they 'seem' to be.. perception is HUGE.
If you made a car..and sold it for double a competitors car price.. and 'rumor' got around that your car's quality was junk or not meeting the 'hype'...
(even if it did meet the hype and was a better product in reality)..but the general consensus of your car/business was negative.. would it matter the quality? if everyone 'thought' a certain way about it/you??
Image/branding/marketing is still 'key' to almost all businesses....
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no 1 has yet mentioned that hyperdyne appear to have the best set up now if this is what were gonna get then it seems to have the best of both worlds with the brightest blade available and now you can have any sounds you want
just like cf
not to mention all the hyperblade features movie flicker,pulse etc and thers alot to be said for a nice blade retracting effect that hiss start and quick blade ignition is an awesome sight (really miss that with luxeon sabers)
and its defo got to be the most movie accurat saber ther is
i cant wait for this board apparently not all features have been revealed yet....
yes it is an expensive set up but its defo worth it
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I disagree on the brightest blade. Makotosai's new V3 blade is far brighter looking than Hyper's. You can get a pretty good scroll effect with a Lux using a corbin blade and a driverboard.
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I disagree on the brightest blade. Makotosai's new V3 blade is far brighter looking than Hyper's. You can get a pretty good scroll effect with a Lux using a corbin blade and a driverboard.
No doubt and 1/3 of the price too.
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I disagree on the brightest blade. Makotosai's new V3 blade is far brighter looking than Hyper's. You can get a pretty good scroll effect with a Lux using a corbin blade and a driverboard.
No doubt and 1/3 of the price too.
as much as I know price is an easy thing to latch on to. let's put that aside for a moment. Lets compare tech to tech and not dollar to dollar.
and DS, no one has mentioned it because no on seems to really believe that hyperdyne is the best. Most here prefer their Luxeon (or equivilant) based sabers.
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here is a great review video of the hyperdyne saber... &feature=related
even if you ignore the vacuum cleaner Nova is running in the background of his video, the broken LED section just isn't all that accurate to a movie saber...
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Following the tutorial on this board, you can even make your own at a fraction of the cost of a hyperdyne. You can make it removable as well.
And if I recall correctly, Erv @ plecterlabs did make video where he showed off a modified CF with power extenders, running a LED ladder as well...
This is not rocket science, and the only thing separating hyperdyne from the existing products is a vague patent, it is all old news so far...
As I do not own a hyperdyne system, and never will, I can say who is better, but I hope for the customers sake,
that he price his product comparable to the "competition". There is no reason he should need to sell his stuff at a premium.
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;) ;)
I'm a laid back kind of guy;so,let me get to the point here.Let's give this thread the respect like any other thread.No bashing of Jim or his product.please!! :(
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thanks ben, you are wise indeed. i do think Makotosai's V3 will give it run for brightest. i plan on getting both
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I know Hyperdyne is a touchy subject for some and everyone has a right to their opinions. Me personally I don't want to get involved in any wars, I am just a lightsaber collector and have no need to make comparisons as I appreciate different technologies for what they are. Long ago before I even knew of this forum, I saw Master Yoda's Hyperblade and was blown away by the blade brightness and Master Yoda's ESB hilt (which was the real decider for me). Personally I think that prototype sounds pretty good in the video and is an improvement on the last in hilt Hyperdyne board. However I decided to go for Hyperdynes blue tooth sound option as I already have a few in-hilt sound boards - my beloved CF4 in my Graflex IV from Master Yoda, as well as my MR FX collection. I dont have an US board, one day hopefully. ;)
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hi watto any chance of a vid or something when you get your hyperblade set up?
im going for the in hilt sound and will do a vid when i get it
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I will try darthsteve. I don't own a video camera anymore, however I might be able to borrow my friends one. If there is enough interest, I may do a review. Anyway, I look forward to your video! ;)
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I will try darthsteve. I don't own a video camera anymore, however I might be able to borrow my friends one. If there is enough interest, I may do a review. Anyway, I look forward to your video! ;)
at this place, there is always interest in a review. I would definately be interested in a review. It may even help people appreciate the hyperblades more
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I think its the run times that put a lot of people off the product its self, I wouldn't mind so much if it was at least 30 minutes on the higher settings and the battery packs were a safer choice. The rattling can be sorted out with some white pipe insulation (Same stuff as MR foam) The weight doesn't matter so much if your just having a mess around. As far as pricing goes, its for a more serious saber enthusiast :-\
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In an attempt to avoid any arguments in this thread, I'd like to just remind members to please stick strictly to the topic at hand - the new Hyperdyne sound board. All other off-topic issues (even those that involve Hyperdyne) that have the potential to cause heated exchanges are to be avoided, please. Again, bashing or flaming of any sort will not be tolerated.
Thanks in advance, everyone.
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You know, I've been looking over the thread and the youtube setup. I actually think the two board setup is a good idea and adds versatility to the board. Like I was discussing with a friend of mine, it allows the user to take the second board and put it anywhere they want.
Say the hilt is shaped in a way that can't support the length of a combined board. (Like my friend brought up; a curved hilt where one long board may be more difficult to work around; a hilt that is segmented by a choke point and doesn't have room in either end to fit the entire board and the battery/speaker setup can have one part of the board at one end of the choke the connecting wire run through the choke, and the other part of the board in the other end of the choke; and any other custom-style hilts that don't fit the normal sized soundbard configuration)
Rather than the sabersmith having to toil hours trying to figure out how to build the internals to fit the Sound Board, the smith can now fit the soundboard around the rest of the design. The sound board can be stacked side-by-side in length....can be separated by distance linking them with the cable, or even stacking them one on top of the other similar to his Vortex system. The user also has more of a choice of battery solutions at that point since they can shape the board in various configurations.
I don't see how this is a handicap. I see it as adding options and versatility to the end builder. Maybe that's just me thinking outside the standard box. *shrug*
Also the fact that Jim has it so that the sound module doesn't require HIS specific driver, it allows you to combine it with any other option. mako blade, Luxeon, etc. It's not forcing you to use a Hyper Blade.
Also the fact that the sound module can be removed from your saber and used in other prop replica type of scenarios.
Anyways, after a long talk with my friend I think looking at the board for what it is (and keeping out past issues that we are/were all heated about) the board has some great concepts and I personally look forward to what the Proto #2 has to offer.
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Like I said before, I'd love to see a review of this new board set up once it's done.
it's easy to knock a prototype because its a prototype and not refined yet. I think some of the negative thoughts of the two card deal we see in that video is that so many of us are used to seeing everything in one board that isn't much bigger than just one of the two components he has shown.
it's one of those: "Well blah blah blah can do it this way, why can't he?" I'm guilty of that kind of thinking too.
let's see what comes of the next step in his process... this board set up sounds much better than the last inhilt sound set up I heard in Nova's youtube review.
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Ok Sohryu76, I will do a review when I receive my Hyperblade and give my honest opinion. However I will have the blue tooth version, darthsteve is getting the in hilt one which you might be more interested in.
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it's easy to knock a prototype because its a prototype and not refined yet.
To be honest and truthful, everyone of his prototypes have turned out to be his production runs. His boards all appear to be hand etched vs. professionally made which is huge turn off to me and I'd guess most also.
Also that board is not a surprise to us keeping track. An actual prototype was seen in a picture MONTHS ago.
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Ok Sohryu76, I will do a review when I receive my Hyperblade and give my honest opinion. However I will have the blue tooth version, darthsteve is getting the in hilt one which you might be more interested in.
True this is the soundboard thread...
but another nice review of the blade itself would be pretty nice for us too, and ontop of that the bluetooth sound, I've not seen a review on that yet.
Hopefully Darth Steve will see this, and opt to give us a review of his in hilt sound too.
And X-wing, here's to hoping anyway!
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Could we all put the tomatoes down, and wait for the finished sound board to be released. The two board setup is a good idea as this allows the sound board to be used with the hyperblade led driver or in a application where you are using some other setup.
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if thats the case Do-Clo it is a good thing for versatility. on the other hand.. if it still cost as much or more than a SB w/ led driver and takes up twice the space I dont see any benefit other than availabiltiy. the sounds do... sound good though
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iv added an update vid.....
check 1st page
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:o :o
wow Jim out did himself!!Sounds great!! :o :o
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Yep, the soundboard sounds amazing. There are a bunch of things Jim appears to have added from what I've heard that will be great for users.
From what I understand, he hasn't come out with a specific price, but has stated it will be competitive to the market, so it should grant another option for people.
Perhaps there will be less friction in the industry and the customers can truly enjoy the rewards of all vendors.
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il be doing a full review of my hyperblade once its got the new sound board installed,
luke anh mr hilt.
and will hopefully be doing a comparison vid against makotos v3 blades ;)
hopefully.... makotos blades are the only competition
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Today is a great day and the reason is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i just ordered complete hyperblade system with soundboard. I cant wait for that box to show up. ;D
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;D
Congrats!!Let's see a video of it later please!! ;)
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roger on the review
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Today is a great day and the reason is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i just ordered complete hyperblade system with soundboard. I cant wait for that box to show up. ;D
how did you manage to order one??? ive been checking there site and the soundboards are never in stock
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inside sources ;)
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can you hook a fellow saber guy up?
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they should be in store this week to sometime next week
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is the new soundboard a 2in1? i see it has like a 6 pin connector on it
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Today is a great day and the reason is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i just ordered complete hyperblade system with soundboard. I cant wait for that box to show up. ;D
LOL it is indeed a good day.... i just paid for my sound board plus a few other things
hopefully now i can complete my hyperblade thats been in the works for almost 2 years
EXCITED
pipster the people on here who have their parts comming early are hyperblade forum users who got an exclusive 1st offer to buy
they should be available in the next week or 2 according to my sources
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do you have a link to said forums? and did u get my pm btw?
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http://hyperdynelabs.yuku.com/
you have to register and the admin will send you confirmation
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thanks ;D
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hey draftnbyu when your parts come can you measure the sound board and post measurments here please? thanks
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The documentation has the measurements as:
Unit dimensions: 2” L x 1” W
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thanks, they dont give alot of info on the site about the sound card, can you tell me if it needs a latching switch or a momentary?
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I believe you can program on the card for either type.
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ok, building my hilt right now,so awhile before i can post video. hyperblade is bright indeed but the new sound board is awsome. its really loud, i mean LOUD and as clear as youre source wav files and speaker can be. great sensativity and all motions are programmable to be more or less sensative. what a great design. all, i repeat, all my sabers including lux will get this sound board. Homerun Jim, Homerun!
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ok, building my hilt right now,so awhile before i can post video. hyperblade is bright indeed but the new sound board is awsome. its really loud, i mean LOUD and as clear as youre source wav files and speaker can be. great sensativity and all motions are programmable to be more or less sensative. what a great design. all, i repeat, all my sabers including lux will get this sound board. Homerun Jim, Homerun!
I'm looking forward to seeing and hearing it!!Was it expensive?I was wondering. :-\
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The soundboards themselves are going for $105 I think.
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Yeah, it's on his site for $105. (Out of stock/coming/whatever)
That is competitive I guess other than it doesn't control the lighting also.
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From what I have been reading and the vids, it does not control the light.
But the sounds and settings are customizable. :-\
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there is a document:
http://www.hyperdynelabs.com/docs/hyperblade/HyperBlade%20SaberSD%20sound%20module.pdf
I am not sure if everything is 100% set in stone. I imagine some things could still change.
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sounds really nice.. i like how it calabrates the board for you
MTFBWY
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sounds really nice.. i like how it calabrates the board for you.
My impression was that it suggested the calibration for you then you had to input it yourself.
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I got one of these in the mail tonight to test out.
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in the third pic you can see the lux friendly cable. it also comes with a pretty cool app on CD that walks you through selecting any wave files, formats and renames the files so you can just drag and drop onto the SD card.
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I hooked it up to a speaker and did a quick test last night to hear what it sounded like. I just put some random sounds into the application so the font isn't really tuned up. I also only put 1 power up and one clash where you can actually have 10 of some sounds and 20 of the others active in a font. If you wanted to make a spiderman fights mickey mouse by throwing tomatoes font it could be done in a minute or two if you had the sounds.
For the hum i just recorded a squeaky bathroom fan with my cell phone. I wanted to hear what it sounded like in a saber so double test. It is really easy to hook up and it sounds really good. It seems to me like a fairly good solution for a saber that doesn't need multiple sound fonts but you still need that font to be customizable.
Sorry this vid is a bit sloppy but it is all I have time to do and figured someone may have interest.
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Is it just me or is there some big interupt in the sound playback between swings, hum, and clash?
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Fender,
I haven't noticed any but what you are seeing on this video is really all I have played with it so far.
Triggering the swing and clash were a little hard out of a saber but the config file has parameters for adjusting sensitivity for all sounds. You may have seen before that you can also have a set of config help files that help you set it up for the best response.
I am actually pretty impressed with both the sound quality and ease of use on the board but until I actually get it into a saber and set it up I cannot speak to overall performance. I will get some get some more info up when I get it into a hilt.
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It will be interesting to see the board in action once you use the onboard calibration tool provided, which should get rid of that "delay" that may be occurring. ;)
Can't wait man!
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Really cool P. I sent you a PM with some questions. I ordered one and it should be on its way. I'll also post some videos once everything is hooked up.
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This is awesome. My wife just gave me a late anniversary gift. I was wondering why she kept checking for the USPS vehicle. I was ecstatic to see the new hyperboard, some speakers, the adapter cord, and a 1GB card too.
I can't wait to get this together. I already have ideas for this soundboard. I think this soundboard would be perfect for a "removable sled" setup, with the battery pack and speaker attached. This way it can be moved from saber to saber, and the sounds simply swapped via the memory card.
If anyone is in the market of manufacturing removable sleds, I'd be interested in seeing your designs.
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How do i get my hands on one i can seem to find and other info on it?
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How do i get my hands on one i can seem to find and other info on it?
You can get them here: http://www.hyperdynelabs.com/hyperblade/purchase.php
But I believe they are sold out right now.
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Actually, they're now in stock there.
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It will be interesting to see the board in action once you use the onboard calibration tool provided, which should get rid of that "delay" that may be occurring. ;)
Can't wait man!
No, if there is a delay it's in the algorithm used to calculate what a clash is vs. a swing, etc... The settings would only change how easy it would be to trigger either, not how fast it's played back.
If it's there, it's there. I'm not convinced there is one based on the video. A) It's not in a hilt and B) the camera and then youtube could screw up syncing of sounds.
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I was actually referring to the delay between effects, like the hum - cut out/delay- swing - delay - hum - delay - clash etc. It just seems like the sounds aren't really mixing well. Also, what is the sound resolution on the output? To me it sounds like 8bit, anybody know? Interested to see the completed saber with it in there.
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i looked on the website and could not find the saber sound SD
could someone please give me a link ?
Thanks
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Amp already provided the link the first time it was requested. :-\
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:o :o
wow that board sounds good !!Do us a video Raijlin when you get yours hooked up. ;D
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just ordered one myself, will post a vid when i get it and bench test it
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This may have already been spoken on but how do you power the led if the board does not act as a driver?
Sorry im still a noob.
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This may have already been spoken on but how do you power the led if the board does not act as a driver?
Sorry im still a noob.
:D No problem my friend. In order to do so, you need to use a buckpuck, I suppose you could use a resistor but not without the high risk of something going wrong.
If you have one, look at my Photobucket's wiring diagram here : www.photobucket.com/people/rotsman09
Hope that helps. Don't try this out until we confirm it! LOL
I don't want to be held responsible.. LOL
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Hey thanks. Do you know how or where the sound fonts will come from?
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Yes I do, Hehe.
Hyperdyne mails this with your board.
-Clear shrink wrap,
-A CD demo
-CD of sounds
-Tutorial of how to make your own sounds.
I think they come all in the same DVD. I would recommend reading the PDF someone previously linked in this thread. I read it and it helped a lot!
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This may have already been spoken on but how do you power the led if the board does not act as a driver?
Sorry im still a noob.
It depends on what LED/battery setup you are using but you can direct drive and use resistors, use a buckpuck, or even a seperate Lux driver like the corbin or plecter driver.
Hey thanks. Do you know how or where the sound fonts will come from?
There is a link earlier in this thread to the PDF doc with specifics but it comes with a CD with a few sample templates. It also comes with a PC application and you can just follow the steps and make fonts from any .wav files you want. The application does all the formatting and renaming all you have to do is drag them onto a SD card and put it in the board. It took me about 5 minutes to record some sounds on my cell phone put them on my pc and then load them onto a saber.
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Wow thats cool thanks guys this helped alot
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It's what we're here for 8)
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hey pneumoniaprone, seen your youtube vid hahahahahahahahaha nice job on droping your tube lol, but good vid made me laugh and got to actualy see someone with the board, im anxiously waiting on mine. how long did yours take to get there?
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;D yeah I know I am a mess. You can laugh at that video I can take it but I am waiting until I get my new hilt setup to make anymore.
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I just wanted to get the board turned on to hear how it sounded. I also knew that people would want to hear it but I think I may have done a disservice by making such a crappy video and using phone recorded sounds.
I bought right around Halloween and everyone in this hobby has had some backlog but it took under a week to get I think.
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awesome, and for the record it sounded pretty good for phone recorded sounds.
im going to post a vid as soon as i get mine and bench test it, and then when i get a led driver board im going to post one of them together, and if i can fit it all in my parks dark avenger ill post another vid then lol
even tho it was funny as anything it was still a good vid of yours so keep them comming
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awesome, and for the record it sounded pretty good for phone recorded sounds.
im going to post a vid as soon as i get mine and bench test it, and then when i get a led driver board im going to post one of them together, and if i can fit it all in my parks dark avenger ill post another vid then lol
even tho it was funny as anything it was still a good vid of yours so keep them comming
I was to do the same thing my friend. Many many videos on it. When did you order yours?
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paid for it on saturday :)
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any shipping notifications?
And before we get anywhere with these sabers.. we need a supply of buck pucks...
Unless TCSS's 6 wire is the same as the 4 wire.. dimensions wise..
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Will Jim ever come out with a led driver? :-\
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Will Jim ever come out with a led driver? :-\
highly unlikely, jim is all about the string blades.
any shipping notifications?
And before we get anywhere with these sabers.. we need a supply of buck pucks...
Unless TCSS's 6 wire is the same as the 4 wire.. dimensions wise..
i just got notification today about payment received
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HyperSD has touched down, Uploading unboxing so everyone can see what you need and what comes with it all.
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awesome cant wait to see, cant wait to get mine as well. i also have a deal to get a lux driver as well :)
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Man I've gotta get a Hyperdyne, these are awesome
plus he makes all other boards for Droid units too.
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Well, I finally had a break from the action of project, thesis papers, and exams so I was able to sit down with my board last night. I temporarily soldered a switch and battery pack and fired the board up. All I can say is that I was 100% satisfied by the performance and sound quality of the board. The clarity was astounding and I put the speaker into my Acerocket Obi-wan to test it out with a "chamber" of sorts. The volume was crazy at it's default setting. I fired the board up from my office at 2:30AM and my wife woke up and came in to see what I was doing (and she fell asleep with the TV on and she still heard it clearly.)
I have only had a chance to mess around with the 4 provided sound templates thus far. I'm looking forward to actually using the sound program to create/mix my own sounds to test them out.
If I can find a way to put together a review on YouTube, I'll try to get it on. Unfortunately I don't have a videocamera and I think my wife's digital camera only captures up to 10 seconds of motion image.
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Well, I finally had a break from the action of project, thesis papers, and exams so I was able to sit down with my board last night. I temporarily soldered a switch and battery pack and fired the board up. All I can say is that I was 100% satisfied by the performance and sound quality of the board. The clarity was astounding and I put the speaker into my Acerocket Obi-wan to test it out with a "chamber" of sorts. The volume was crazy at it's default setting. I fired the board up from my office at 2:30AM and my wife woke up and came in to see what I was doing (and she fell asleep with the TV on and she still heard it clearly.)
I have only had a chance to mess around with the 4 provided sound templates thus far. I'm looking forward to actually using the sound program to create/mix my own sounds to test them out.
If I can find a way to put together a review on YouTube, I'll try to get it on. Unfortunately I don't have a videocamera and I think my wife's digital camera only captures up to 10 seconds of motion image.
Glad to hear it Darth, Aren't the template sounds awesome sounding too? BTW, how does this calibration work? Do we load it up without any other fonts on there?
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you can have the calibration and a font on the card as I understand it.
You can then set your mode to calibrate when it turns on or not.
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Yep, you can load the calibration protocols up there at the same time as the specific sound files you want, and they won't interfere. Once you run through the calibration and set the numbers to how you want, remove the SD card, go into the mode.txt file and change the calibration from "1" to "0" so you don't keep having to calibrate it.
Or...just remove the calibration files. Whichever is the path of least resistance for you. :)
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After discussing the HyperSd with Raijlin last night on the phone, I must admit that I am impressed. Raijlin Fired the board up for me over the phone, and I was really surprised at the clarity, and accuracy of the sounds. It would be of great interest to me to see this implemented in person. Even over a cellular phone connection on his end, the sounds were crisp and defined with no latency or skipping. The hum did have a bit of a high pitch, but I am certain that could be easily rectified when programming your own sounds.
So much as to the fact that I would certainly put money down on a couple for some custom builds. It's good to see that Jim has stepped up to the plate with a very attractive package for saber sound, as well as driving a string blade. So much in fact that I must stand corrected in my previous, blind statements.
I am truly in awe of this, and the possible applications of this board seems extremely promising to say the least!
I may just have to pick one up now.
Kudos! I am highly impressed. Hyperdyne has made a believer of me.
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good to hear darth tyranus..
my hyperblade has been put on hold til after xmas but the good news is now its going in a luke anh graflex hilt instead of an mr fx
and should have a few supprises ;) some of which i dont think has be done with hyperblade tech yet ;)
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After discussing the HyperSd with Raijlin last night on the phone, I must admit that I am impressed. Raijlin Fired the board up for me over the phone, and I was really surprised at the clarity, and accuracy of the sounds. It would be of great interest to me to see this implemented in person. Even over a cellular phone connection on his end, the sounds were crisp and defined with no latency or skipping. The hum did have a bit of a high pitch, but I am certain that could be easily rectified when programming your own sounds.
So much as to the fact that I would certainly put money down on a couple for some custom builds. It's good to see that Jim has stepped up to the plate with a very attractive package for saber sound, as well as driving a string blade. So much in fact that I must stand corrected in my previous, blind statements.
I am truly in awe of this, and the possible applications of this board seems extremely promising to say the least!
I may just have to pick one up now.
Kudos! I am highly impressed. Hyperdyne has made a believer of me.
Well DT, we're going to have to wait for another run, LOL.
I'm not sure on the quantity but, they're all gone now.. I picked up one, but they sold out before I could buy more! :D
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Yeah, I am hoping it will be soon though! :D
As soon as they are available, I plan on being there to get one.
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Well my friends, Jim pulled through on this one. He gave me the crash course so if anyone needs help, Jim, me or any others luck to receive a find piece of engineering.
It's a great piece.
REVIEW UP IN 30 MINUTES!! Or less... depending on Photobucket..
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anxiously waiting for it ;)
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Here they are... Be advised, settings are not set properly yet... Not enough time to do it LOL
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Hilt and calibrations are next..
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dude i cant wait to get mine. cant wait to see how your project comes along rotsman
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dude i cant wait to get mine. cant wait to see how your project comes along rotsman
Thanks man! Tell me when you get yours!
I put mine in a Graflex hilt to see how it sounded with resonance and my God, my ears are still ringing..
Thats at half volume. I think not many people here will appreciate his work after what his associates have done to them..
Not many people have viewed this board so far..
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dude i cant wait to get mine. cant wait to see how your project comes along rotsman
Thanks man! Tell me when you get yours!
I put mine in a Graflex hilt to see how it sounded with resonance and my God, my ears are still ringing..
Thats at half volume. I think not many people here will appreciate his work after what his associates have done to them..
Not many people have viewed this board so far..
soon as i get mine i will let you know. plan to wire it up right away for a bench test...maybe take a video.
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Sounds good rotsman! Seems real responsive. I like the hum pitch shift thingy :P, and if you don't like any sounds...you can change em. Bottom line, a nice new sound board for us all to enjoy! Choice is good my friends. (or in my case, no choosing, I must have them all...muhahhahah)
RG
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ive got a few ideas already on how to mount this bad girl in my dark avenger :) then the us will be transfered to my new graflex once i build a custom chassis for it.
if it pans out that the hyper board and the driver wont fit with batteries in the avenger they will definitely fit the graflex so they will end up there and the us board will stay in the avenger...but the avenger is first pic for the new sound :)
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temp locked for arbiter review.
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This thread has been cleaned up and is now unlocked. Posts have been either edited or removed altogether. The rules, once again:
1) Keep the discussion limited to the topic at hand
2) No flaming of any kind towards anyone.
In other words, the tried and true rules that would apply to any other thread. ;)
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Not Calibrated yet, haha.
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:D The hum sounds like an accelerating airplane
Looking forward to see a video when it's calibrated ;)
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I think I have it calibrated now.. I will be taking it tomorrow to SW in Concert with ;).
Hope to see a nice reaction! I will be working on some fonts for it now. I see only a select number of people have actually bought the board..
Darth R, P-prone, and pipster and myself. Anyone else out there? If you don't have one, any reasons why? It depends, I'd like to put more effort into my sound designing
if there are more people.. I will be working with motor settings soon.. Just I'm a little surprised on the lack of reaction this thread has taken over the last week or so.
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Very interested in one of these myself. Recently sent a email inquiring about its release :)
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Rotsman, Jim does not have any up for sale currently. I'm not sure how many more he is planning on manufacturing. Remember, he's also working on a deluxe version right now. The best bet would be to contact him or Matt (Jedibum) if there's an inquiry. I know that Matt is actively putting together a Luxeon-based version right now and stated he's going to try and post the results soon.
As far as the sounds, I haven't had a chance to mess around with them yet. I want to try and implement Psaeb's Vader sounds he uploaded to Filefront (I think it was his sound files), but I have to tweak the settings because when I load them, they come out squeaking and garbled. I'll need them for my Vader ROTS lightsaber in the works.
Right now, I have one of the demo sounds loaded up and it sounds great. I wouldn't mind getting some samples of Windu's saber from the movies either. I always enjoyed the "Jedi with a Dark Side" sound that came out of my MR FX Model.
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still waiting for mine to get here, it was shipped out the 17th, hoping it will be here monday or tuesday
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Think my wife said it took hers about 3-4 days to get here.
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Hello all,
I finally got myself up to speed and registered to FX Saber Forums. Anyway, I just want to make sure that this is clear to avoid any confusion, but the sounds I uploaded to file front are not mine. They are ones that I merely collected from many sources all over the internet over the years on my computer and belong truly to Ben Burtt. The Vader sound files were downloaded from Plecter Labs site on the free download section for CF. Many thanks for making those available! : ) Some came from different file sharing sites, some came from TheForce.net, and many many other places. Just wanted to make sure I give credit where I can.
Thanks and I look forward to sharing vids and pics of my own Hyperdyne SaberSD Sound boards when I get them programmed and installed in my sabers.
Psab Keel
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Ah ok. That explains why the Vader sounds aren't playing correctly on the SaberSD if they were originally setup for the CF. I believe it's two different configurations. I think he said 22kHz is a good level for the soundboard.
Have you run them through the programmer that is included with the CD?
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I haven't had a chance to even test my boards out yet because I'm still in the process of setting up my new workshop. I just uploaded the library of sounds I collected so they would be available to everyone. I didn't modify any of them as that is beyond my skill set and probably better left to people like Novastar and Madcow and others who have that knowledge.
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They won't work on the HyperSD..
the CF files are .raw where as this board requires .wav.. And you would have to rename every sound to work with the Hyper
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True, but the files I uploaded were the wav. files. I discarded the raw files, knowing that the SaberSD only read wav. files.
Here is the link to the library I uploaded:
http://www.filefront.com/user/Psab+Keelhttp://
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Yeah, which is why I think it had to do with the sampling rate. I'll have to check it out later and run it through the program. The file names were changed to reflect the format ... i.e. clash1, hum1, etc. So it must just come down to something in the sampling.
Hopefully tomorrow after I'm done with my LSATs, I'll have some time to fiddle around with it.
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Ok cool. Let me know how it worked for you. I am likely going to be using those sounds for my friend's ESB Vader SaberSD Card, within the coming year.
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wav and raw are the same thing. The difference is the header info of the file. Sampling rate issues are obvious... the sound will be too high or too low. The "bits" is literally how many bits chunks of data are put in, so 16 is more than just double the quality because in binary there are two possibilities for each digit. The Hz sampling rate tells you the amount to sound info in each chunk as Hz is a time interval. So 44000 vs. 22000 is shorter for 44k. So a 16 bit 44k file in each chunk would have more data for less sound than a 8 bit 22k file, thus a MUCH higher quality.
Running the CF files through his program is going to jack squat and probably make them worse. His program is supposed to mix them AND format them, correct? When they're already mixed like CF files you're going to add some funky stuff.
Find out what format the Hyperdyne soundboard wants and manually switch CF files to that via something like Goldwave. IMO that's something you guys need to do is get some properly mixed sounds. Some of the vids I watched are wacked fonts. I don't know if it's the fact that the mash up of various sound for the sets is the issue or the program just plain isn't mixing them well. Frankly Jim's jab was unwarranted IMO on mixing sounds... if a computer could do what an ear can then we'd never need music producers to record and mix stuff.
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some of the fonts you can get of the plector site have the unmodified wav's with them so you could always use those in the program for it to do the fonts for you for the hyperboard
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Well for people like me who don't know a whole lot about sound mixing and computers, this is a cool idea to have the board do the work. :)
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the board doesnt do the mixing work psab...it comes with software for your pc that does the mixing for you then you put the files on a micro sd card and put it in the board
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I don't recall Jim making a "jab" at anyone on THIS thread in regards to mixing sounds. So, following what the arbiter already stated, perhaps those kind of comments should be left off. Since it was warned already.
Perhaps we can return to our regularly scheduled programming for people that are enjoying this thread and not simply bashing it. ;)
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Well I meant the sound template software in conjunction with the board.
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Xwing's post stays. The jab he is referring to is posted in public on youtube.
From the Youtube video comments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro34XPRZVP8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro34XPRZVP8)
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Price will be less than the older sound board. I will also have a free software program that will enable you to create your own sound fonts. Anybody will be able to do it. You just select whatever wav files you want to use. There are tons of wav files on the net for sabers. The program will make the sound template to copy onto your SD card - there is no longer a need to have magically mixing skills to make a sound scheme for your saber (unlike some other boards).
That is a jab.
Xwing is entitled to his opinion, as are you DR.
Please return to discussing the new Hyperdyne board and not policing this thread. It is no longer your responsibility.
The participants in this thread have been warned several times to be NICE.
Unlocked for now.
The Sarlacc is getting hungry....
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Find out what format the Hyperdyne soundboard wants and manually switch CF files to that via something like Goldwave. IMO that's something you guys need to do is get some properly mixed sounds. Some of the vids I watched are wacked fonts. I don't know if it's the fact that the mash up of various sound for the sets is the issue or the program just plain isn't mixing them well. Frankly Jim's jab was unwarranted IMO on mixing sounds... if a computer could do what an ear can then we'd never need music producers to record and mix stuff.
i agree xwing. ive noticed alot of the sounds ive herd so far arent the greatest and are not really normalized and even. myself i will probably use goldwave to normalize them all and tweak them before i mix them for the board. ill also make sure they all sound good together...more like an actual font oposed to just a bunch of lightsaber sounds thrown together.
dont think ill use the pitch shifting either...i dont like the airplane sound it makes lol
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In the interest of keeping this thread peaceful and avoiding any further strife, and to prevent this topic from being completely removed and fed to HE who is hungry, let's just stick with the specific subject at hand and not discuss any outside stuff, and things other than the actual board, the tech involved, how to properly use it, etc, etc, etc.
Thanks everyone.
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im so happy...my board finally arrived today. ill post a vid tomorrow prob after ive had a chance to wire it up and play with some sounds
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im so happy...my board finally arrived today. ill post a vid tomorrow prob after ive had a chance to wire it up and play with some sounds
Cool man! Glad it came! I've been talking to Jim, his first run only had 25, but the next is supposedly 35..
I'm very happy that this is thinner than the Ultrasound..
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thinner? it seems to be the exact same size to me lol with the big capacitor that it has on it. i think its actualy a bit thicker then my us2.1. other then that the dimentions are the same as us.
2x1 board, so it should fit in my parks just fine :)
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US 2.5= 1.1x2.1 My hyperSD is just a bit under 1x2
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ah i c, i never measured them i just went by the specs on tcss and hyperdynes sites
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omg this thing is friggin awesome.
at first i tried it with 4aaa batteries and it seemed a bit crackly and not that loud, not even as loud as my us2.1, turned the volume on it up a bit but still didnt seem that great. wasnt pleased
next tried a 9v battery and wow it was super loud. and extremely clear, i had to crank the volume down way further then it was set when i got it and it was still really loud. i was more then pleased, and just off a quick sound font i made up. this thing is really cool and really easy to use. i didnt even go thru the calibration or anything. i just wanted to get it powered and try it out.
i must say jim really out did himself on this one. only downside is having to use 7 or more volts for optimum performance (4.8 or 6v battery setup wont cut it) will post a vid tomorrow after work
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I had the same experience.. I tried a 6AAA set up, nothing.. then a 9v and WOW, LOL can't wait my friend
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Waiting to hear back from Jim atm, sent him a mail a while back and he said he would have a new batch coming up here soon. Got a graflex project in the works this will go nicely in. All i can do now is wait =)
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i herd myself that hes going to have another run of about 35 shortly here. keep a close eye on the store and check it a couple times a day, thats what i did after the first bunch sold out. seen they were in stock again and as quick as i could ordered one :) and i couldnt be happier....well ill be happier when i get it in a saber lol
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That's odd. I used a 4AAA setup for 6V and it sounded fine. I wonder where the difference occurred?
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well they were dollar store batteries but each one measured about 1.45v at least. dont think the holder is the best anymore either....its about 2 years old and has moved from project to project lol
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From what I understand the board needs at least 7 volts to power correctly.
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the manual says 7-14 volts. mayb some good strong batteries it might work ok at 6v but i know with the 4 i tried it sounded very poor
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If you look at the bottom of the PDF it says minimum is 6v and at the top it says 7v :-\ :-\
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My original design for using 6 AAA NiMH Rechargeable batteries won't fit into my graflex. I'm toying with the idea of using a 9V (8.4 V) NiMH Rechargeable Battery setup. Don't know what the run time would be like, but I know the rechargeables have much better run time than alkalines. I really need to finish getting my workshop set up so I can do some testing.
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Right now, I'm using 2 CR123A's, 3.6v(4.2 peak) 1000mah. I haven't hooked it up yet, but it should be fine.
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My original design for using 6 AAA NiMH Rechargeable batteries won't fit into my graflex. I'm toying with the idea of using a 9V (8.4 V) NiMH Rechargeable Battery setup. Don't know what the run time would be like, but I know the rechargeables have much better run time than alkalines. I really need to finish getting my workshop set up so I can do some testing.
dont be so sure of that, im using 9v alkalines in my dark avenger with an ultrasound and ill tell ya ive had one in there for 2 or 3 weeks now and turn it on and play with it ever so often. while when i had 2aaa trustfires rated at 600mah each would only last a half an hour. 9v rechargables are only rated at around 350
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pipster...got the sounds up yet? I'm really curious what this thing sounds like.
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pipster...got the sounds up yet? I'm really curious what this thing sounds like.
I already have some vids up ;D they should hold you off hehehe
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I already have some vids up ;D they should hold you off hehehe
I only saw the one on page 11...any others?
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I already have some vids up ;D they should hold you off hehehe
I only saw the one on page 11...any others?
3 on 10, Just demos not in hilt
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sorry guys ive been feeling very sick yesterday and today, im going to go find my camera in a few mins and do a quick one for you guys
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ok guys here it is, my first hyperdyne vid. this is an ep4 template i made with sounds i got from the force network i believe it was
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi430.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fqq25%2Fpipster79%2Fth_100_0741.jpg&hash=8e2a555561b3e6860b72984a4d40fe4662405c77) (http://s430.photobucket.com/albums/qq25/pipster79/?action=view¤t=100_0741.flv)
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Not really hearing any pitch shifting :-\
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im not fond of the pitch shift. so i have it set to very low shift almost none but it still does a tiny bit
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by the way i forgot to mention it only took me 15 mins to find sounds on the internet, unzip them, choose my sounds and use the template creator to make the sound font. this is so easy anyone can do it. i used i think 8 swing sounds and 10 clash sounds just for testing, but you can have way more sounds on it
you can have a boot sound which i didnt bother doing
you can have up to 10 ignition sounds
up to 10 off sounds
up to 20 swing sounds
up to 20 clash sounds
up to 20 force sounds
and up to 10 deflect sounds
all these sounds can be on the sd at the same time and you can have them all set to random or sequential
so you can have tons of sounds. and changing sound templates and creating them is a snap.
i really love this board, i cant wait to get my lux driver now to get it in a hilt ;D
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So, let me get this straight, because I think there has been confusion regarding this. You can have all of those sounds, but they are essentially all in one bank? You cannot have "sound fonts" in different banks, correct? Oh, and you also need an LED driver to run it with a Luxeon style LED, correct?
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So, let me get this straight, because I think there has been confusion regarding this. You can have all of those sounds, but they are essentially all in one bank? You cannot have "sound fonts" in different banks, correct? Oh, and you also need an LED driver to run it with a Luxeon style LED, correct?
Yes, All one bank. There can be sound fonts, you need a bigger card, but there is no toggle through menu, you must go in take the SD card on your computer and manually change it.
Regarding the LED, you can drive the LED with a resistor/Puck but to get some flicker and clash reflection, a Driver is indeed needed.
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Considering the power requirements of the board, unfortunately I won't be able to fit it into my graflex. Which is a disappointment for sure, but I do have a really cool idea for a body worn unit (which can be hidden in my costume) and uses a larger speaker set up. The advantage to this design though is that the unit will have better sound reproduction on the larger speaker. And now I can upgrade my original Luxeon driver for a Corbin driver so I get all the light effects.
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Pipster, so that you know, there is also a unique set of sounds available for thrusts that are different than the clashes and swings. I'm not sure if it's the force.xx format or what, but I thought it was pretty cool cause when i thrust my board forward, it plays a sound similar to when Qui-Gonn is burning a hole through the blast door.
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dude??? how do you figure you cant fit it into a graflex? graflex has TONS of room for electronics. and you dont need tons of room for these. shrink wrap the board and shrink wrap a driver or just use a resistor or buck puck and stick them together uve only used 2 inches of hilt space so far...now you could go with a 6aa battery setup 2x3 or use a master replica 6aa battery pack, you will have tons of room to fit it all in. or you can go with 2 ultrafire aa's and have 7.4 volts to it which will work just great.
i just tried 2aaa trustfires with it and it worked sweet.
im working on squeezing the hyperboard and a lux driver board with batteries into my parks dark avenger hilt and i have less then 5 inches to use and only 29mm of internal diameter...and i will do it too, i already have it worked out and am just waiting for my lux driver to get here. if i can do it in that small space you can surely do it in the 10 inches of space and 35mm internal diammeter of the graflex. i know i could, and i know id have TONS and TONS of resonance room in that hilt. and if i can get a hold of another hyperboard and lux driver im going to go that route with it. i may even get the hyper driver and do a string blade possibly...time will tell
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Did you go with either of the two drivers TCSS just got in stock or did you go with a different selection?
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Pipster, so that you know, there is also a unique set of sounds available for thrusts that are different than the clashes and swings. I'm not sure if it's the force.xx format or what, but I thought it was pretty cool cause when i thrust my board forward, it plays a sound similar to when Qui-Gonn is burning a hole through the blast door.
id love to get those sounds darth...can you let me know where to get them
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a friend on here is sending me the old square style v2 tcss driver. basically the same driver just in the square board not round like the new ones
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Well the chassis that I have planned wouldn't work with the set up I had. I'm definitely going to use NiMH batteries though as I already have a good source for them and don't want to buy Lithium Ions. I'm still in the design phase of the saber though so it could change. I know I could fit everything, but I also want to fit in an internal chassis system so that it stabilizes the hilt. In the past, other graflexes that I've converted would wobble at the section where the two halves meet and the clamp had a lot of stress on it to hold the two halves together.
I also want the batteries to be removable without having the whole hilt having to be disassembled. I'll come up with something, but I also want to design a backup system where I can have the unit as a body worn item in the event that the chassis can't accommodate the electronics I want.
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Well I finally redesigned and redesigned and came up with a solution that will allow me to fit the board into my graflex with the sturdy chassis I want, batteries I want, the vibration motor, access to the SD card, removable battery pack, decent run times, and a nice professional looking interior that is what I've been trying years to design.
I can't wait to get working on this bad boy! Just have to finish setting up shop and make one static prop and away I go!
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Sounds very interesting. Thanks for the update, pipster.
BTW, any news on the next run of these?
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update for all who have been waiting for them to be available again....they are now in stock again!!!!
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Roger that! ordered mine 6 hours ago right when i got off work. woot woot. Soon enuff I'll be pm-ing you, pipster, about your electronics config :D
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sounds great shane. ill be glad to help out in any way i can
edit. i posted in your graflex build thread the other day incase you didnt see it shane
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Yeah m8! i saw it, just been so swamped lately i havent had time to write back. heading over there now tho. cheers =)
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Can we please get some more in the hilt and calibrated video's?
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Interesting to see more companies creating saber soundboards. Took me a few hours to read through this topic. It's still hard to beat the "BUTTERED TOAST" though.
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Can we please get some more in the hilt and calibrated video's?
I did one recently.
http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=22735.0
It is a pretty nice board if you are comfortable and have the space for both it and a separate LED driver. Very configurable for sensitivity and different options plus making sound fonts is only limited by your imagination. They take mere minutes to make if you use the included software.
I put the board in second place for soundboards I would want in my saber when space permits.
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WOW! I wonder if this is going to compare to a CF in there future work I mean all it needs is a blade lock up, blaster blocks, and force powers with changable sounds then we can finally all have good sound in our sabers instead of the basic MR or hasbro sound
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WOW! I wonder if this is going to compare to a CF in there future work I mean all it needs is a blade lock up, blaster blocks, and force powers with changable sounds then we can finally all have good sound in our sabers instead of the basic MR or hasbro sound
You can actually put force sounds, lockups and blaster deflect sounds on this board too. There is a place to wire an aux switch and you can put whatever sounds you want attached to that and you can also set up a thrust sound.
I never got around to wiring up the aux switch and may not on this saber but you may notice on the video that if I thrust the saber forward at a 10 degree downward angle it will trigger a force choke sound.
There are many things other than these that the CF boards excel at not to mention that the sound and led driver is together and work great in unison. It is still far above the rest IMO but this is a nice alternative when CFs are scarce and you want some custom sounds.
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Great video I cant wait to get mine.
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Darn I think I just might get one then, is it official enough to say theres now a sister version of the CF!?!?
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i wouldnt go that far, but it is a great board. and more easily obtainable :) they come in stock every couple weeks
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sorry for the double post but i just thought id let everyone know there instock right now
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No, not like the CF. The HyperSD is a good board in its own right. I'm very happy with mine. I personally have owned a CF, US1.1 and US2.0, and HyperSD now, as well as the MR Boards.
The CF is the Corvette of the industry. No doubt about it.
I do like the HyperSD more than the US due to the price being similar and all the customization factors in play.
In order of my opinion, it's been:
1) CF
2) HyperSD
3) US 1.0
4) Hasbro/MR FX
5) US 2.0 (Yes I know, I'm probably going to be called crazy but I truly didn't enjoy all the problem with this board and the long wait for a revamp that I finally decided to just sell mine long ago, way before the US2.5 came out. )
I Haven't had a chance to try a US2.5 thought and will keep an eye out for one possibly in the future.
Course, I"m also eager to see the TCSS board.
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I purchased a CF a few years ago, but had no idea how to program it. I ended up returning it and getting a refund. As cool as all of the features and programmable nature of that board, for my own personal sabers the HyperSD board will do just fine, and is much easier for me to use. Plus, I don't need an mp3 player and 6-7 sound fonts for my sabers, but that's just my preference.
Once I have my workshop all set up I'll be installing these Hyperdyne boards into my sabers.
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Well yes I own 2 CF's but have never heard these
Have heard:
Crystal focus
MR Jedi
hasbro
sabersound
Have not heard:
Ultra sound
MR sith
superONE
spiderman economy board
hyperdynes board
so as you can see I havent heard alot but from you saying you like it better than US I think I will get one but does any one know if the sounds on the SD card are compatible with the CF sounds like if there in a .raw format or what?
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It uses wav files. You can easily convert any raw files you have into wav if you wanted. The soundboard comes with a CD that has a program on it that walks you through setting up your files. It says choose your clash sounds 1-20 and you can pick up to 20 wav files for clashes and then hit ok. When you finish the process it exports all the sounds properly titled along with a config file to the folder of your choice or directly to the sd card.
Each
template can have up to 10 ignition sounds, 10 retraction sounds, 10
deflection/lockup sounds, 20 swing clash and strike sounds.
The manual is located here.
http://www.hyperdynelabs.com/docs/hyperblade/HyperBlade%20SaberSD%20sound%20module.pdf
Another point of interest is that this board can take up to 14V
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Darn I think I just might get one then, is it official enough to say theres now a sister version of the CF!?!?
No.
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Darn I think I just might get one then, is it official enough to say theres now a sister version of the CF!?!?
No.
Hahaha... I know it's not a joke but I know you and Hyper.. Plus CF is and will always be miles upon miles above this board. The only reason people are buying these is because they are available all year round.
Price hikes to $119.. Still not bad but with the SD card that comes to $131, still OK.
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can you guys please give me the link the the hyperdyne board, I can't find it on hyperdynelabs.com
Thanks
GK
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How do i get my hands on one i can seem to find and other info on it?
You can get them here: http://www.hyperdynelabs.com/hyperblade/purchase.php
But I believe they are sold out right now.
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In stock.
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How do i get my hands on one i can seem to find and other info on it?
You can get them here: http://www.hyperdynelabs.com/hyperblade/purchase.php
But I believe they are sold out right now.
::)
In stock.
i just posted earlier today they are in stock again lol
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Darn I think I just might get one then, is it official enough to say theres now a sister version of the CF!?!?
No.
:D Very straightforward.
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That's not the reason I bought it.
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If you guys look around, you can find SD cards for MUCH cheaper than you would buy say, inside Wal-Mart. Just shop around and find the best deal. I've found them (from name brand companies too) for $5 - $8 before.
Check out newegg.com and some of the other online sites.
EDIT: Keep in mind, Jim didn't create this board in an attempt to "steal market share" from the CF. As stated by most people, the CF is in a category of its own. The board creates an alternative option to many of the boards out there in the category OUTSIDE of the CF. Those following the threads on Hyper's board realize that he created the board at the request of the community. As such, I think for the number of options you receive with such a versatile board, one that can adapt to any of the technologies for lighting the blade, and for a price that even if you choose to go the Lux route and have to get a LED driver, still isn't bad.
Not a bad option in my book. Jim does good work, regardless of crticisms by some that he isn't an engineer and arguements over patents and such. I love my HyperSD board and it goes well with my Vortex II - Vader Voice Synthesizer by Hyperdyne.
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Thanks guys!!!!!!!!!
Also does the SaberSD have a Luke ROTJ sound fount?
Thanks
GK
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Thanks guys!!!!!!!!!
Also does the SaberSD have a Luke ROTJ sound fount?
Thanks
GK
Yes it does. You could also make your own.
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i got my mirco sd card from futrue shop. it cost about 20 bucks but it came with a usb adapter and a sd adapter and it was a 1gb card. of course i dont really need one that big but the smaller cards are harder to find now and when you do find them i find they cost more lol go figure.
as to the board i love it very much, very user friendly and versetile. as i stated way back in the thread the only downside is powering the board if your tight for space. the hilt i have mine in barely has enough room for a 9v battery and with a led driver as well as the hypersd it dies really fast. im going to try to squeeze a double 14500 pack in the hilt as soon as i can get some of them. ive measured and it would be a very tight squeeze. i may even have to bore the hilt a few thousands of an inch.
its really sad that hyper had to go and vero so many auctions and create such a bad name for them that has really stuck with alot of people so hes loosing alot of sales due to that. if it wasnt for that im sure he would be doing alot better now lol
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Thanks guys!!!!!!!!!
Also does the SaberSD have a Luke ROTJ sound fount?
Thanks
GK
Yes it does. You could also make your own.
Thanks rotsman09!
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Darn I think I just might get one then, is it official enough to say theres now a sister version of the CF!?!?
No.
Thanks for the one word awnser Jango lol
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what is the Dimensions of the SaberSD.
Thanks
GK
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what is the Dimensions of the SaberSD.
on the page before this one, there is a link to the manual. The specs are located with in it.
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Thats right Jango, It says 1" in the PDF, but it is a little thinner.
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I'm installing a Hyperblade/SaberSD setup for a customer, and I'm impressed with the SaberSD. If you want to buy a new soundboard (not something salvaged from a Hasbro product), today March 15, 2010--your only choices, as far as I know, are the SaberSD, Saberforge's SaberSound 1.0, and (I suppose) Makototsai's Super ONE. I don't know much about the Super ONE, but of these three, the SaberSD is the only one that lets you edit sounds any way you like. It's also the most expensive, but that's to be expected, I suppose. I think it's reasonably priced, but you have to keep in mind that it is a soundcard, and not an LED driver. You need something else for the LED(s). If you weigh the features and final expense, the Crystal Focus comes out on top, but at the moment, the SaberSD has one feature that the CF can't top: availability.
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SaberSD is not consistently available either ::) For March 15, 2010 maybe so, but that's a bit of a narrow focus ;)
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actually the hypersd is available so far more then any other board so far, they have been in stock for the last few weeks, and before that they were pretty consistent with getting them back in stock in at least 2 weeks after they would sell out.
since they have been released they have been pretty much readily available aside from a week here or there.
and i agree with matt they are a great sound board, i really love mine, only downfall as ive said before is the power consumption, need at least 7v for optimal performance and it drains at 240mah. in a hilt with lots of room this doesnt pose a problem, but for small hilts it makes a small problem.
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SaberSD is not consistently available either ::) For March 15, 2010 maybe so, but that's a bit of a narrow focus ;)
It's pretty consistent. There are batches I believe every month. What makes you think they weren't consistent? What isn't consistent is the price. :-\ It jumped $15 but $120 is still a good price. $105 was a jaw dropping price anyways.
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Semantics......
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SaberSD is not consistently available either ::) For March 15, 2010 maybe so, but that's a bit of a narrow focus ;)
It's pretty consistent. There are batches I believe every month. What makes you think they weren't consistent? What isn't consistent is the price. :-\ It jumped $15 but $120 is still a good price. $105 was a jaw dropping price anyways.
very true. when i bought mine it was only 105. im guessing that was a base price to get some sold and test the waters. now that he sees that there selling well hes bumping the price. if he bumps it anymore no one will be buying them since they dont have any light driver included. the cost of buying a driver as well will not be worth it anymore.
at least at 105 you can buy a lux3 driver for 50, so 155 bucks pluss shipping and you have a half decent set up.
but 120 plus 50 is 170, add shipping onto that. oh and thats not including an sd card of course
hyper really needs to lower his prices, if it wasnt for the way overprice of his blades and driver boards i might have bought a setup long ago.
but theres no way im paying 185 for a blade and 85 for a driver board.
best way to do business is to sell more for less rather then less for more. if you charge too much you wont sell very much. if you charge reasonable you will get frequent customers and lots and lots of sales. sure they want to make money but they are going about it the wrong way. not everyone has 400 dollars to throw into there sabers for electronics (not counting batteries and speakers and switches of course)
cut that cost in half, and now watch how many more people will be able to afford it. and watch how your sales go from 30 a month to 200 and up
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SaberSD is not consistently available either ::) For March 15, 2010 maybe so, but that's a bit of a narrow focus ;)
It's pretty consistent. There are batches I believe every month. What makes you think they weren't consistent? What isn't consistent is the price. :-\ It jumped $15 but $120 is still a good price. $105 was a jaw dropping price anyways.
very true. when i bought mine it was only 105. im guessing that was a base price to get some sold and test the waters. now that he sees that there selling well hes bumping the price. if he bumps it anymore no one will be buying them since they dont have any light driver included. the cost of buying a driver as well will not be worth it anymore.
at least at 105 you can buy a lux3 driver for 50, so 155 bucks pluss shipping and you have a half decent set up.
but 120 plus 50 is 170, add shipping onto that. oh and thats not including an sd card of course
hyper really needs to lower his prices, if it wasnt for the way overprice of his blades and driver boards i might have bought a setup long ago.
but theres no way im paying 185 for a blade and 85 for a driver board.
best way to do business is to sell more for less rather then less for more. if you charge too much you wont sell very much. if you charge reasonable you will get frequent customers and lots and lots of sales. sure they want to make money but they are going about it the wrong way. not everyone has 400 dollars to throw into there sabers for electronics (not counting batteries and speakers and switches of course)
cut that cost in half, and now watch how many more people will be able to afford it. and watch how your sales go from 30 a month to 200 and up
Agreed Pipster. I'll email him to see what the deal is..
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This thread really needs to get back on topic, please. For the most part, it has been very civil and informative, however, there are a few posts that are steering this topic off course, posts that have now been removed. Also, this is not a feedback thread, so please refrain from posting feedback-oriented comments here - unless it's about the actual board.
Thanks everyone.
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I have one quick question and appologies in advance if this has been covered (my search-fu fails me at times..) Do we know what the voltage drop across the board is? (any?)
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dont know what the voltage drop is, but if your wanting to try and use voltage drop across the board as a led driver i think your out of luck. best off getting a buck puck, or led driver to go along with it
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Nah, just wanting to make sure my battery solution would give it enough to compensate for voltage drop. On the other hand the voltage drop may be negligible, that too i would need to know ;D
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I have encountered what seems to be a bug in the SaberSD. If the saber is turned off, and a kill key is not plugged in, the sound (but not light) will spontaneously turn itself on. At first I thought this might be some loop maxing out, but if that were the case, the time between turning the saber off (or removing the kill key) and the sound coming on would be the same every time. That is not the case. The first time it happened must have been a couple of hours after turning off the saber (and I nearly jumped out of my skin). Today I tested it once, and it turned on five minutes after unplugging the kill key. I'm testing it again, and I'm at 15 minutes and counting. It seems to be random. Has anyway else noticed this? Regardless, both the Hyperblade driver and the SaberSD draw power when the saber is off, so it's a good idea to plug in a kill key as soon as is practical after using the saber. It would be seriously embarrassing to be sitting in on some session at a con and suddenly have your saber turn its sound on!
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Perhaps a short in the wires somewhere?
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Why not email Hyperdyne?
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Anyone know if there is going to be availability of this board anytime soon?
I have the driver board for the hyperblade but been checking for months for the sound card with no luck. Also, I'll need a blade which has also been sold out for months. I knew I shoulda gotten that green blade when I saw it available months ago! Silly that I didn't.
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I have encountered what seems to be a bug in the SaberSD. If the saber is turned off, and a kill key is not plugged in, the sound (but not light) will spontaneously turn itself on. At first I thought this might be some loop maxing out, but if that were the case, the time between turning the saber off (or removing the kill key) and the sound coming on would be the same every time. That is not the case. The first time it happened must have been a couple of hours after turning off the saber (and I nearly jumped out of my skin). Today I tested it once, and it turned on five minutes after unplugging the kill key. I'm testing it again, and I'm at 15 minutes and counting. It seems to be random. Has anyway else noticed this? Regardless, both the Hyperblade driver and the SaberSD draw power when the saber is off, so it's a good idea to plug in a kill key as soon as is practical after using the saber. It would be seriously embarrassing to be sitting in on some session at a con and suddenly have your saber turn its sound on!
mine has a similar bug....
with mine sometimes when i pull out the kill plug it plays the "power to the board sound" then resets itself, then on activation the blade doesnt light but the sounds play then when i turn the saber off the blade lights up, its like its working back to front.
it only does it sometimes tho which is strange
i just put the kill plug back in and retry and it usually rights itself
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As someone with makoto's and hyper's which is brighter?
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I don't think that is really pertinent to the sound board discussion. There's plenty of searches that can be done that show comparisons between the two technologies. This also usually ends up in a flame war of sorts, so is probably best to just look around. ;)
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Ok
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When do I get saberSD from hyperdyne's website?
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not wanting to start any argung but heres them side by side makoto and hyperblade
make your own mind up....
&feature=related
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not starting an arguement.
That video is a very bad comparison.
The makoto is green which is always brighter to the human eye. Also it looks like the makoto is pulsing.
The hyper is nice and bright, no doubt.
No specs, such a power supply or driver are listed, or talked about in the video. just some heavy breathing :-X
video description:
BRIGHTNESS COMPARISON,MAKOTOS GREEN V3 VS HYPERBLADE BLUE (I WILL DO BLUE VS BLUE WHEN I GET THEM)
GREEN IS VERY BRIGHT BUT HYPERBLADE WINS... JUST.
HYPERBLADE WAS SET ON MAX BRIGHTNESS AND BATTERYS WERE FULLY CHARGED
The only real conclusions anyone should draw from the video is both blades are bright in a darkened room. ::)
I hope that someone does a proper comparison one of these days.
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Dangit, Nova at one time had both a Hyperblade and Makaoto V2 sabers. >:( I am curious myself. I am especially curious about the V3's....apparently those are mad bright.
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not starting an arguement.
That video is a very bad comparison.
The makoto is green which is always brighter to the human eye. Also it looks like the makoto is pulsing.
The hyper is nice and bright, no doubt.
No specs, such a power supply or driver are listed, or talked about in the video. just some heavy breathing :-X
The only real conclusions anyone should draw from the video is both blades are bright in a darkened room. ::)
I hope that someone does a proper comparison one of these days.
lol heavy breathing... thats a hayfever sufferer for ya
yeah jango i realized the colors are different but i aint got 2 of the same color
hyper is powed by the 11v battery supplied by hyperdyne driven by the v2 led driver
shockingly the makoto V3 saber is only powerd by a 3.7v battery
driven by the superone 2.0 board
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You might try with some ambient lighting so the camera isn't totally saturated by the blades. Also lay them on something flat. Carpet doesn't work too good. Also steady the camera with something. You maka me dizzy wit dat wobble.
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il try n do a better one when i have 2 of the same color
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Please, on the doc i can't see any "Hum.wav".
If i create a "hum1.wav" will the board recognize it?
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do you mean in the sound bank itself or in the "files used" text file?
not sure if you can just name files i aint tried it but its worth a go and should work
you would just need to name it... hum
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According to Jim's CD, each file must have a specific name for the board to recognize it, with the proper suffix ending as well. I don't have my literature anymore as I had to sell my board or else I would give you specifics.
There is only space for one hum. For each clash, there is a specific "nomenclature" that has to be used. You can also program the board for random, or to have each clash played in a specific order.
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Ok, thanks for all !
I'll try tomorrow. I think it's a mistake they made on hyperdynelabs, they not mention the Hum in the Pdf doc.
And i didn't get the Cd when i purchase the Soundboard. Don't know why.
I've Pm Jim and he gave me a little more informations, so i think that should do it!
Thanks again for the help!
;)
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Hi there is there somebody who have a link to download the sound templar software for this hyperdyne soundboard?
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it could be here somewhere but im not completely sure
www.hyperdynelabs.com/docs/hyperblade
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No, there's nothing to download. :-[
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Pm me with an email that I can send it over via a file sender. It's the biggest files on the CD, over 100 mb if I remember correctly. I'll send via drop send or something.
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Thank you, that's done!
And with the original template that's working, great!