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Re: LedEngin LEDs: 5W, 10W, and 15W Discussion
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2009, 09:21:20 PM »
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Re: LedEngin LEDs: 5W, 10W, and 15W Discussion
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2009, 12:59:04 PM »
The left is brighter, so I'll say Left LuxV Right Rebel.
But it looks xxx good-man, almost the same, and than you'll have the white clash, I'll think that rocks.
What were the complanes about the Rebell GGW color vs LuxV again???.
I don't see so much difference there.



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Re: LedEngin LEDs: 5W, 10W, and 15W Discussion
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2009, 01:16:04 PM »
The left is brighter, so I'll say Left LuxV Right Rebel.
But it looks xxx good-man, almost the same, and than you'll have the white clash, I'll think that rocks.
What were the complanes about the Rebell GGW color vs LuxV again???.
I don't see so much difference there.
You can't see it in pics... but for me there is a lot of yellow in the GGW that I have... and when you turn on any other color with it the yellow gets worse... My LUX V green does not look like that it's green with no hint of yellow and it stays green no mater what other color is on.... It might just be me though I can't speak for others...
   
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Re: LedEngin LEDs: 5W, 10W, and 15W Discussion
« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2009, 08:23:08 PM »
coolios. how many NiMH batteries would that need?(sorry i haven't learnt about battery voltage and such yet, so im quite confused with those things)
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Re: LedEngin LEDs: 5W, 10W, and 15W Discussion
« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2009, 10:04:06 PM »
These need lots of power, so I'm using Li-ions, not NiMHs.

Instead of posting the Lux3/5W/10W comparison for Red tonight like I had planned, I decided to make a video of a 10W RGBA (still in manual testing phase, but destined for a CF).



Let me know what y'all think :)
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Re: LedEngin LEDs: 5W, 10W, and 15W Discussion
« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2009, 10:14:40 PM »
Hey goodman I am sure you know your PMs are full...
I emailed you
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Re: LedEngin LEDs: 5W, 10W, and 15W Discussion
« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2009, 10:43:09 PM »
These need lots of power, so I'm using Li-ions, not NiMHs.

Instead of posting the Lux3/5W/10W comparison for Red tonight like I had planned, I decided to make a video of a 10W RGBA (still in manual testing phase, but destined for a CF).



Let me know what y'all think :)

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Re: LedEngin LEDs: 5W, 10W, and 15W Discussion
« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2009, 11:31:25 PM »
Whoops, geez, I leave the house for an hour and I get eight PMs. Sorry y'all, it's cleared up now.


Thanks Allerra! Post the special lens pics when you have it mounted up. That will help add to the LedEngin discussion here and then I'll post the other version too...  ;)


*UPDATE* Here's a couple vids of the single die red, and single die green, against a Seoul P4 red, and a LedEngin 5W green (comparable to a Seoul P4 green).

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Re: LedEngin LEDs: 5W, 10W, and 15W Discussion
« Reply #38 on: August 05, 2009, 02:30:55 AM »
These need lots of power, so I'm using Li-ions, not NiMHs.

Instead of posting the Lux3/5W/10W comparison for Red tonight like I had planned, I decided to make a video of a 10W RGBA (still in manual testing phase, but destined for a CF).



Let me know what y'all think :)
So how many Li-ions would be needed?
the video is great btw, just wondering: how do you change colors halfway? do you gotta take out the whole thing from the hilt?
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Re: LedEngin LEDs: 5W, 10W, and 15W Discussion
« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2009, 03:34:28 AM »
The 10W RGBW, the green alone looks very bright too, and than you have the W far clash.
Cinse we are doing the RGBWs too,...
How will this be compared to the TriRebel GG and W for clash in brightness?
Can you show that to us?



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Re: LedEngin LEDs: 5W, 10W, and 15W Discussion
« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2009, 10:54:37 AM »
Firedrops,
It's an RGBA LED, which means that there are four color dice (red, green, blue, and amber) under one single dome. Look on the previous page of pictures to see that the RGBA LED is almost the same size as a regular "single color" LED. It is mounted in the hilt just like any other LED. The difference is that I have three separate circuits (lots of wires!). One to the red die, one, to the blue die, and one to the green/amber dice. I can activate them individually to show you red, or blue, or yellowishgreen, OR I can activate the red and blue dice to give a violet color (since the colors mix). With all four dice activated, the colors mix to white, which is what mimics the clash.  So what you are seeing when the color changes is simply turning on switches for a combination of those three circuits. No physical change is needed --it's all in one.

As stated in the video notes, for these tests I'm activating the circuits manually, but ultimately this will be controlled by a CF with power extenders.


Matth,
Sure, I can video and post a Tri-Rebel GGW vs. LE10W RGBA tonight or tomorrow. I can tell you that in real life to my naked eye, the 10W's green die alone is on par with the brightness of a GG. It's *almost* LuxV green brightness, if not dead even (just a difference in the color itself, not the brightness, which throws my eye off).








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Re: LedEngin LEDs: 5W, 10W, and 15W Discussion
« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2009, 01:32:20 PM »
As stated in the video notes, for these tests I'm activating the circuits manually, but ultimately this will be controlled by a CF with power extenders.
Hmm, so for brightness this all is comparable to the lux V, apart from a 10W single colored LED with all 4 oreven 3 points wired up.
When I want brighter, I need a 10W.
But for the possability of a white clash effect (which is also VERY cool) there's now the choice of for example the TriRebel GGW for green against the 10 RGBA which has a G for green and the RBA for the clash addedalong with the G.
I hoe this will work smoothly with the CF board.
Aspecially that last setup, would be great when the new CF board let say CF 4.2 or CFV has the possabillity to make choices for color saber in the Config folder and use the other colors automaticly for the clash.

Hahhhh WOW.

I think I'll get the hang-of-it.
Now you wizards must get the control over this new technics, but so it seems you don't have a problem with that.
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Re: LedEngin LEDs: 5W, 10W, and 15W Discussion
« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2009, 03:29:47 PM »
If you're using a 10W RGBA, but only the Green active, then for clash, it would be a lot simpler to run the Amber die only through a power extender (the amber only needs ~2.7V IIRC). The clash flash effect will be just as nice (more yellowish like the movies), and the sacrifice in full white clash brightness will be made up for by much less complex wiring. What I'm trying to say is that you don't NEED to trigger all four dies to make a clash per se --two or three mixed make is still satisfying.

If you wanted to clash the RBA simultaneously off a single CF and power extender....I'd have to check the manual but it I don't think it can be done like that.... MadHatter used a 1A buck and logic for his 10W Red saber. 2 dice on all the time via the CF, and the other 2 via powerextender/buck setup. He'd be the one to contact for that part.

For now, I will most likely run blue and red in series for violet, and clash the amber via powerextender. Simple and bright.


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Re: LedEngin LEDs: 5W, 10W, and 15W Discussion
« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2009, 06:03:30 AM »
That would make a great Mace Windu saber.
Now we only need a size correct hilt for that.



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Re: LedEngin LEDs: 5W, 10W, and 15W Discussion
« Reply #44 on: August 06, 2009, 10:25:32 AM »
'working on it...
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