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Star Wars Movies, Videos, TV, Books => The SW TV Series => Topic started by: SirRawThunderMan on October 31, 2020, 08:21:44 AM
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Haven't seen a Mandalorian 2 thread yet, so I might as well get the ball rolling.
So, after watching the first season at least a half dozen times this year, and the companion Gallery series, I was sufficiently hyped for Season 2. And it started on a pretty solid note for me, anyway. So far, so good. The atrocious, almost George Lucas-grade direlogue is still there, but that's about as much criticism I've got. Can't wait for the rest of the season, and I can't wait to see how they do Asohka, whenever she appears.
I have one question that the show failed to answer, though: where are they getting all that wood on a desert planet?
What did everyone else think of it?
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I have one question that the show failed to answer, though: where are they getting all that wood on a desert planet?
Are you talking about the fires? Banths poo is flamable.
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I have one question that the show failed to answer, though: where are they getting all that wood on a desert planet?
Are you talking about the fires? Banths poo is flamable.
I mean, yes, I'll grant you that. doesn't cover the wooden ballista they use later on, though. :wink:
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um :angel: ... wholesale from Watto's Import Furniture?
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My guess: Tatooine is so hot, it doesn't have polar ice caps, it has polar rainforests.
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ah well, in that case, [switches hats] you want Watto's Exotic Patios & Porches :wink:
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Great start to the season!
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Chapter 10 fell a bit flat, I gotta say. Definitely had the smell of filler episode all over it.
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My sentiments exactly. I think I actually said “pure filler” out loud when it ended without even a resolution to a silly side story. Let’s hope it doesn’t pick up where it left off next week!
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Yeah. It was off to a good start (is Boba Fett kidnapping the Child?) but it just fell flat after. And somehow, those giant spiders were creepier in Rebels than they were in full scale. Something about the added detail just didn't translate well for me.
Oh well. Every show has to have some bad episodes every now and then. I wonder when they're going to start the multiple storylines that Favreau mentioned, though, and who they'll be splitting off with. I kinda figured this episode would have more of a focus on Fett.
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Chapter 11's a win.
Next week should be fun, too.
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Yep, much, much better episode this week!
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Chapter 12 was okat, I thought. I figured we'd meet up with Ahsoka this episode, but I guess they're keeping Lady Tano for later. It was nice to see the old faces of last season again, even if, plot-wise, things were a little simple.
I gotta say, seeing all those Snoke-like clones floating in vats was a bit of a downer. I mean, I suppose Disney had to start integrating the ST into Mando at some point, but I hoped that would be way, way further down the line.
I am, however, secretly hoping those troopers Gideon is building are Dark Troopers being brought back into canon. Because if they're bringing them back, then logically, they'll bring back the only known antidote to Dark Troopers, Kyle Katarn.
A Jedi Knight fanboy can dream, right? :wink:
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Meh, the Jedi are seriously overrated :P
Actually, in all seriousness, (and knowing that it is a show and not real) I have MAJOR issues with the Jedi. essentially authorized kidnapping and indoctrination of force-sensitive children.
The Sith aren't a whole lot better, but at least they're HONEST about how terrible they are.
But as for THIS show -- I am loving every moment of The Mandolorian. Even the episodes y'all went "meh" to, I loved. Looking forward to Darksider Grogu.
I really like Ahsoka and the return of Boba, but my favorite thing about this series is that we're mostly dealing with "the rest of the universe" separate from those self-important Skywalkers and Palpatines
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Meh, the Jedi are seriously overrated :P
Actually, in all seriousness, (and knowing that it is a show and not real) I have MAJOR issues with the Jedi. essentially authorized kidnapping and indoctrination of force-sensitive children.
Yeah, the more times goes on, the less I disagree. In this case, though, by Jedi Knight fanboy, I meant Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight, the excellent shooter/slasher of my childhood, featuring Kyle Katarn, slayer of Dark Troopers (in Dark Forces I)
And hey, I called it, those were Dark Troopers in Mando. :wink:
Ahsoka's episode was awesome. I gotta ask, did anyone else thing that, from the comment about the Magistrate's people being destroyed in the Clone Wars and the red robes she was wearing, that she was going to be a Dathomir Force Witch? Because that's what I expected.
Anyway, she's getting her own show now, so, that's more fun to look forward to.
The Boba Fett chapter was a bit mixed for me. I enjoyed it, but I didn't enjoy Robert Rodriguez's directing style with it that much. that whole sequence where they went through all of Fett's arsenal (including the kneecap rocket launchers at long last) was cool, but the slowmo-focus on each separate thing reminded me too much of Rodriguez doing the same in the Mariachi trilogy, and it just didn't gel with the style of the Mandalorian that well for me.
This week's one was cool, but that's all I'm saying until more folks have had a chance to see it.
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Rest in peace, Mandalorian. Jumped the Shark far before it's time. Another senseless victim of 2020.
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Rest in peace, Mandalorian. Jumped the Shark far before it's time. Another senseless victim of 2020.
Really? I certainly don't think so. Season 2 was strong. I missed the serial/western feel of the first season a little bit, but the big plot stuff for season 2 was still valid and maintained.
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Season Two was strong, right up until the end, when it played the Card of No Return.
What we had with the Mandalorian was a breath of fresh air. Something new in Disney-era Star Wars, which so far has been hidebound, repetitive, pointlessly formulaic and that reeks of design by committee. Proof (as if it was needed, old EU had plenty of it) that the franchise could stand strong without having to make every little thing about comings and going of the Skywalker clan. We could see the galaxy from points of view we'd never seen before. no more trade negotiations, no more space opera politics, no more mystery boxes.
And for fifteen glorious episodes, we were free of them. We had a show helmed by folks with artistic vision yet who knew the frames of the canon, directed by new directors injecting a fresh vision for what Star Wars could be, rather than constant repetition and poaching of the past for that sweet, sweet nostalgia cash.
There was no reason for Skywalker to show up. You want a Jedi tearing up some Dark Troopers? Okay, I can roll with that. It could have been literally any Jedi, though. Ahsoka Tano realising she was wrong a few chapters back. a young Snoke popping out of a clone tank. Sam Jackson returning in a surprise cameo as a one armed, 0rder 66 surviving BMF emerging from exile. a Sith Lord. an old canon character being brought back. One of those Padawans from the Clone Wars. Heaven forfend,*shocked gasp* a NEW Jedi we've never heard of.
Nope. We got an almost-out-of-the-Uncanny Valley Luke Skywalker. Like a walking millstone around the franchise's neck, because everything has to have a Skywalker in it somewhere, or it's not Star Wars, right? Wouldn't want those idiots watching at home to think they've tuned in to Star Trek: Discovery by mistake.
So yeah. Either this was an imposition on the Mandalorian from above, a sign that Disney is tightening its grip on the creative control for the franchise, now that it's found a profitable and fan-approved venue for the franchise, and that we can continue seeing this going on as more and more Star Wars shows start airing, squeezing more and more life and creativity from the franchise.
Or, this is what Favreau And Filioni came up with all along, and the last hope we had for the franchise is just as hackneyed as the rest of it.
I would dearly love to be wrong. Mando was great right up until the very end. But I don't see the point in denial. There isn't much room for The Mandalorian to manoeuvre now that the Skywalker card has been played. The shark has been jumped, just with a jetpack this time.
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Mandalorian is the new IronMan. They are using it for world building.
They basically shouted it from the rooftops with Ashoka's lame excuse to not train, and her hunt for Thrawn.
Luke will get a training series.
Boba Will take on Crimson Dawn.
Mando is in position to take over Mandalore.
Plus all the other series announced.
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I could not disagree with thunder more. It was an great episode, and frankly exactly the Jedi that should have shown up from the call since it is of the same period and Luke is possibly the only remaining Jedi (Ashoka bailed and maybe Ezra?)
Not sure why you are looking for a franchise that was always all about Skywalkers, to suddenly drop them...without getting into a discussion on the ST, this was a great way to wrap season 2.
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Not sure why you are looking for a franchise that was always all about Skywalkers, to suddenly drop them.
Because all that's worth telling of Luke's story has has been told. It had a start point (ep4), and it had a logical end point (ep6.) Trying to add more onto it, in the current canon, gave us the ST, and any continuation of Luke's story can only lead to the ST. Disney won't deviate from that, no matter how much we want them to. Which is why it's probably for the best to recognise that it's time to retire him and move on.
Also, it stands logically that we already know The Child's fate, and that's death by Kylo Ren when he has a strop and kills the rest of Luke's Academy.
That aside, I have to ask, why does everything in Star Wars have to be about the Skywalkers? So much of the cream of franchise, both Canon and Legends, has been without them. The first 15 chapters of the Mandalorian, Knights of the Old Republic, Rogue One, the latter half of the Clone Wars, Jedi vs Sith, Rogue Squadron, Republic Commandos, Rebels, Tales of the Jedi, etc
Star Wars can live without them. I'd argue Star Wars flourished without them.
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Thunder,
I also disagree with pretty much everything you said.
Although I wasn't a huge fan of the uncanny valley Luke overlay, I thought that the find episode was AMAZING.
I *LOVED* the Luke cameo, and I don't think that it detracted from the concept that this series is about the NON-skywalkers.
The wade-through-the-droids basically just showed how utterly TERRIFYING a master-force-user is to the rest of the universe and combined with the Ahsoka episode, it really highlights the fact that the "normals" in the universe need someone who can stand against them. The Madolorians were the layer of protection and could be again.
As for Baby Yoda getting killed by Kylo. You/we have no such knowledge of that outcome. Logically, there are 18 thousand ways to explain that BY is NOT present when Kylo goes all Anakin on Luke's school.
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I love Sir RawThunderman's perspective on this and agree.
I too imagined what would it have been like if another Jedi that Luke was training (leia? another?) stepped up and was in that scene instead of Luke. I thought it would have been more powerful to have someone like Leia or someone new for us to be introduced to. It certainly made sense for it to be Luke, but my belief is that if they treated Luke properly in the sequals, then it would not have been necessary to have Luke in the Mandalorian. The only reason we saw Luke in the Mandalorian is because they severely screwed up his character in the sequels and that made Favrou feel like he had to 'do something' to correct this so we got what we got.
Awesome? Yes. Could have been different? Yes also. Maybe would have more titilating to the audience to have a brand new set of Jedi in that hallway. Maybe even Leia... I think her final line of dialogue could have been: "My brother will know what to do." And she walks away with baby Yoda in her arms.
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I believe there was an agreement with the Fischer estate that they would not use Leia fakes,cgi or deep fake