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Title: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Sanjuro on February 24, 2014, 07:55:57 PM
Hello All (on the LEGACY run),

I've been asked to create a stand for this run.

In discussing with Corbin and Wat, this will be a first for me...  A community designed stand.  You lucky few on the run will decided on the price of the stand, and the design.

As this would be a first for me, perhaps the best way is to first open this up to ideas.  Then begin to narrow it down as we start coming to somewhat of a concensus.

I'll help out of course with what can and can't be done.  I can only use Acrylic or Wood for the material, and nothing thicker than 0.200".  I can't work with metal.

Price is proportional to the complexity of the stand.

Thank you all and let me know what you would like to see.

Respectfully,
Sanjuro
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: ANAKIN SKYWALKER on February 24, 2014, 08:18:56 PM
Fantastic news!  I'm really glad you'll be handling the stands for this.  I know the 3 I already have from you are the centerpiece of my collection. 

I know I'll regret saying this, but if you really knock it out of the park (which is why I know I'll regret saying this, because you always do), money wouldn't be an object for me.  That said, I'd say a comfortable price ceiling would probably be $200 given the original cost of these sabers.  Personally, I don't have a ceiling (within reason), but it's tough to add too much on top of $1500 and electronics and an install, so I'm trying to think about the group as a whole here. 

Personally, I feel full custom is the way to go, which incurs big price, but I don't believe the stand needs to have a huge footprint.  I'd say no more than 4" longer than the saber itself.  The saber needs to be the center of attention without dominating the entire space around it with a huge stand.  The things I would like to see are that it would be easy to remove and place in the stand (remove is bigger than place), some kind of a unique position or holding solution for the saber, lots of gold and silver mirrored acrylic (along with the proper amounts of black to balance it out), and if you can work with wood, maybe a thin wooden base that has a dark stain.

 

Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: JANGO FETT on February 24, 2014, 08:26:20 PM
I'd like to see something in layered orange and yellow acrylic. Rectangular base. With a spot for a plaque.
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: ANAKIN SKYWALKER on February 25, 2014, 05:41:22 AM
Machining copper is a very difficult process.  You have to use a full coolant flood and not go too fast or the copper will stick to the tool bit and cause big problems.  Much harder to machine than aluminum or  mild steel.  Plus, as everyone mentioned, copper of the alloy and size needed here (any machinable copper really) is extremely expensive. 

The cost is extremely reasonable for a saber like this.

@Sanjuro, do you think we should start a thread about the stand in your section to keep it more on track about the stand itself? 

A spot for a plaque is a must.  I don't have a preference as to whether the plaque is acrylic or metal, but the stand should be able to hold whichever type of plaque is decided on.  Either way, i'd want my plaque to mention something about the electronics, since i'll be using cfv7s for sure. 
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Darth Smorgis on February 25, 2014, 06:32:15 AM
I'd like to see something in layered orange and yellow acrylic. Rectangular base. With a spot for a plaque.

I would agree with Jango.  I would like to see some color in this stand to simulate the copper and brass.  Nothing overly crazy though as the hilt pretty much speaks for itself.  Simple but elegant.
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: ANAKIN SKYWALKER on February 25, 2014, 07:07:50 AM
Lumi nailed it.  The mirrored gold and if possible a mirrored copper for the stand.  I mentioned silver just for reflections of the saber itself.  I know the stand you did for my mkvi complimented the saber perfectly. 

I will be polishing my saber and juan's just like the original was new.  Looks like everything but the grip section got a mirror finish, and then it was allowed to age over time. 

Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Pfockerchief on February 25, 2014, 04:46:51 PM
I get the concern over matching saber and stand colors, especially if the stand is large...you lose the saber in it.  However if the stand is small and understated like the tron v1 than it fits well.  For example, in the Halo stand I specifically asked for no green and that the color palette match the silver and gold accents of the saber as I knew it was going to be epic.  So...IMO it depends on the stand size.  I do like the idea of using mirrored sections in conjunction with either gold, black and/or silver acrylic.  Can't go wrong there IMO.

I still like my exploded view idea and would be ok with a wall hanging version if size dictated.  But I tend to display items against walls so that's easy for me to say  :P.

One last thought on this.  How about something similar to what RO did with his obi cutaway saber? 
RO-LIGHTSABERS: LIGHTSABERS (http://ro-lightsaber.blogspot.com/p/lightsabers_24.html)
Use a piece of clear acrylic with laser engraving that highlights the hilt components, sn, creators.  It could contain a cutout so that the saber sits inside it halfway.  Perhaps light from the saber could help lit up the engravings in some fashion.  Granted this isn't a cross-section saber but it's still highly detailed.  This could simply be an additional piece to the stand that can be removed if preferred.  Just some more food for thought.
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: basalter on February 25, 2014, 05:24:56 PM
Gee, I was not going to think about getting the stand, as I intended to wear the jolly thing 24 hours a day, but these ideas all sound so amazing!
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Corbin_Das on February 27, 2014, 09:23:18 PM
Gee, I was not going to think about getting the stand, as I intended to wear the jolly thing 24 hours a day, but these ideas all sound so amazing!

 If you're going to wear it a lot, get suspenders.  :)) The type of copper it'll be made from is really dense.

 I look forward to seeing what everyone comes up with for a stand. If people decide on some sort of plaque, would it be acrylic or a separate brass plaque that's laser etched or whatever?
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: basalter on March 03, 2014, 06:07:06 PM

 If you're going to wear it a lot, get suspenders.  :)) The type of copper it'll be made from is really dense.

 I look forward to seeing what everyone comes up with for a stand. If people decide on some sort of plaque, would it be acrylic or a separate brass plaque that's laser etched or whatever?

Actually Mr Corbin, (bows, 'We're not worthy', etc) I was curious if you had ever thought of a holster for your original KP. Even not considering the weight, carrying a saber in such a way, standing face to face in a duel and drawing sabers seems quite natural. Obviously the real life situation of a physical blade makes the idea less feasible, but not impossible (an open holster of sorts?) Or simply carrying with a blade plug, something I do most of the time with a saber anyway. This post also gives me the opportunity to thank you for those many years (and still) of effort and inspiration you placed in not only the Killer Penny, but the saber community as a whole. The number of people I have read who got into this hobby (myself included) through specifically seeing, or including seeing, the beauty of your saber is astonishing.  I tip my hat to you sir!
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Sanjuro on March 03, 2014, 06:13:59 PM
This is not for carry  :))

This will be for setting on the altar and meditating on the Force...

Respectfully,
Sanjuro
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on March 04, 2014, 07:02:37 AM
This is not for carry  :))

This will be for setting on the altar and meditating on the Force...

Respectfully,
Sanjuro

 :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Corbin_Das on March 10, 2014, 12:09:37 AM
Thanks Basalter. I appreciate it.

 I sent you an email, so we won't get this thread too far off subject.

This is not for carry  :))

 Probably a wise choice, though at some point, like me,  you'll probably want to carry it around to show folks.  :)
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: OBI-WAN KENOBI on March 10, 2014, 08:14:28 AM
Since the hilt is more brass than copper by design as a whole, how about an all copper colored stand, with perhaps only the plaque being brass/gold colored?

Also, I would prefer if the arms of the stand are on the taller side (like 3"), so the saber isn't sitting too low and is lifted up a little (think MR LE display stand, for example). 
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on March 10, 2014, 08:22:13 AM
I was thinking just the opposite,  I'd rather see predominantly silver mirror with copper and gold accents.  I think that would make the saber "pop" while on the stand rather than blending in :).
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: OBI-WAN KENOBI on March 10, 2014, 08:48:37 AM
I hear ya, I can definitely see that too.
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Darth Smorgis on July 27, 2014, 06:04:59 PM
Well with the Legacy saber run making some really great progress, I am curious if any more thought has been put into the stand design.  Hoping Sanjuro has been brain storming some unique ideas.
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: basalter on July 27, 2014, 08:35:40 PM
Well with the Legacy saber run making some really great progress, I am curious if any more thought has been put into the stand design.  Hoping Sanjuro has been brain storming some unique ideas.
Glad you reminded me about this Darth Smorgis! I had forgotten all about the stand thread for the Legacy. Since Erik is doing such wonderful work and the progress is going so smoothly I guess thinking about the stand needs attention. There is not a day goes by I do not visit the Legacy build, updates or not, just to soak in the amazing work by Erik.
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Aginor on November 13, 2014, 12:40:10 AM
Any update on the stand sanjuro?
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Sanjuro on November 13, 2014, 07:41:47 AM
Yes - all designed and  cutting this weekend.

This one is a little different for me - but you will see.

I think I will need to get my Legacy first so that the pics will really make sense with the stand.

Respectfully,
Sanjuro
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on November 13, 2014, 08:24:34 AM
Yes - all designed and  cutting this weekend.

This one is a little different for me - but you will see.

I think I will need to get my Legacy first so that the pics will really make sense with the stand.

Respectfully,
Sanjuro

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Sanjuro on November 13, 2014, 08:33:44 AM
Yes - all designed and  cutting this weekend.

This one is a little different for me - but you will see.

I think I will need to get my Legacy first so that the pics will really make sense with the stand.

Respectfully,
Sanjuro

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

 :))
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Scorpion on November 13, 2014, 11:06:17 AM
I was thinking just the opposite,  I'd rather see predominantly silver mirror with copper and gold accents.  I think that would make the saber "pop" while on the stand rather than blending in :).

while im not in this run i totally agree with lumi here, too much color in the stand will not make a nice contrast,
i would keep it as simple as possible, like another poster wrote you dont want to loose the saber in the stand, a simple mirrored bottom to reflect the saber would be a nice color contrast on its own, and maby bronze/gold accents here and here

the stand should never distract you from the display of the saber itself.... master replicas nailed it with their stands
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on November 13, 2014, 11:24:46 AM
Well, not sure I agree with that, at all Scorpion.  To each their own.  Anyone can make a simple stand.  I was really hoping for some of Sanjuro's magic :)).
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Pfockerchief on December 13, 2014, 07:14:17 AM
What's going on with the stand Sanjuro?
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Sanjuro on December 13, 2014, 12:42:06 PM
What's going on with the stand Sanjuro?

Just waiting on my own Legacy to arrive to finalize the dimensions..

Respectfully,
Sanjuro
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Darth Smorgis on May 07, 2015, 01:19:45 PM
Hi Sanjuro,

Was just wondering if this is still in the works or not.
We have not seen or heard much from you in the past few months.  Hope all is well on your end.

I am hoping to have my Legacy saber completed and in hand in the next couple months and would like something nice to set it on  ;)
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Sanjuro on May 17, 2015, 04:58:05 AM
Hi Sanjuro,

Was just wondering if this is still in the works or not.
We have not seen or heard much from you in the past few months.  Hope all is well on your end.

I am hoping to have my Legacy saber completed and in hand in the next couple months and would like something nice to set it on  ;)

Actually, it's done. Cutting it this weekend and will post pics.

Sanjuro
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Pfockerchief on May 17, 2015, 07:10:43 AM


Actually, it's done. Cutting it this weekend and will post pics.

Sanjuro
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Awesome.  Can't wait to see it Sanjuro.
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Cavjo on June 05, 2015, 07:36:49 PM
Cant wait to see some pictures!!
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Cavjo on August 29, 2015, 01:00:23 PM
Hello do you have any updates on the stands?? they are going to be awesome!!!!! :)
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Darth Smorgis on August 29, 2015, 01:24:49 PM
Actually, it's done. Cutting it this weekend and will post pics.

Sanjuro

Hello do you have any updates on the stands?? they are going to be awesome!!!!! :)

Was wondering the same thing after three plus months of silence  :'(

Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: darth hondo on October 02, 2015, 09:38:49 AM
hi, any news regarding the stand?
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: TRDNiteLife on October 02, 2015, 11:06:08 AM
I see Sanjuro logs in but hasn't posted anything since 07/03/15...

I don't think you are getting any stands.
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: darth hondo on October 02, 2015, 12:29:42 PM
yeah, no updates. no hurt in asking though
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Sanjuro on October 02, 2015, 12:46:29 PM
I am sorry....   Just getting too back logged with my real work.

I'll find the time.

Respectfully
Sanjuro
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: basalter on November 21, 2015, 05:45:51 PM
Hi Sanjuro,
 I know things only get busier this time of the year, but I thought I would ask if the Legacy stand has come closer to fruition. If you had any finished I am sure many are enthusiastic to see a preview, but if you are waiting for a reveal when all are completed that is understandable.
Also, how is your Legacy? I have still not seen any completed (with sound) sabers yet (including my own, ha ha). 
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Pfockerchief on January 14, 2016, 04:14:35 PM
Sanjuro,

Can we please have an update on how the stands are going?

Thanks
Title: Re: LEGACY - The Killer Penny tribute run Stand Thread
Post by: Pfockerchief on February 18, 2016, 06:00:37 AM
Knock knock...anybody home.  If anybody (in particular) mods could reach out to get an update here it would be great.