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Title: Simplyprop?
Post by: The_Night on December 04, 2011, 06:37:07 AM
so i recently stumbled on the simplyprop on youtube. i know from digging a little bit that he used to sell on here and the RPF but was banned for both. i wasn't around so just wondering why? all the feedback for him on here was 5/5 and i wanted to know before i order from him. so anyone thats done business or knows of what happened, words of advice?
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: JANGO FETT on December 04, 2011, 06:54:19 AM
It was confirmed as an Alt. account for 5postboy. 2 different sources with screencaps, both long time members.

Why would you consider buying form someone banned from the forums? :-\
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: The_Night on December 04, 2011, 07:03:24 AM
I had thought about before I found out. I found one of his hilts second hand and was trying to find info on them.

Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: daddy solo on December 04, 2011, 07:15:00 AM
I  bought an Obi ANH spacer/connector from him over at RPF (before he was banned) and actually had an excellent transaction - but he's obviously been banned for some questionable practices so "caveat emptor"
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on December 04, 2011, 07:20:15 AM
http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=15315.0

If you do a search on the RPF, or even google for 5postboy, you will find a long history ::).

Just like with other sellers who I won't mention, some people have had good transactions but many others have not.  If a seller has burned many other members of the community, the question you have to ask yourself is do you want to support that person?
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: The_Night on December 04, 2011, 07:23:45 AM
http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=15315.0

If you do a search on the RPF, or even google for 5postboy, you will find a long history ::).

Just like with other sellers who I won't mention, some people have had good transactions but many others have not.  If a seller has burned many other members of the community, the question you have to ask yourself is do you want to support that person?

dang... add one more to my list of people not to buy from i guess.
opinions on getting one he made second hand?
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: IndustrialAction on December 04, 2011, 08:07:21 AM
Actually, I've had lots of conversations with Zeb. He maintains he's not the same person and I tend to believe him. Quite a few people have his Mara Jade and have been happy with them. As soon as I have some free funds, I'm going to pick up a Luke ROTJ from him.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: JANGO FETT on December 04, 2011, 08:20:22 AM
I've seen the email that he admits he is the same person.

Why members continue to support known scammers and scalpers is beyond me.
Many of your comrades lost their hard earned $$ to this person, and If you had to read all the PMs I have had to your point of view might be different.
Or worse it could be your transaction that goes bad this time around and your $$$ could be lost.

/Bewildered
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on December 04, 2011, 08:30:56 AM
Actually, I've had lots of conversations with Zeb. He maintains he's not the same person and I tend to believe him. Quite a few people have his Mara Jade and have been happy with them. As soon as I have some free funds, I'm going to pick up a Luke ROTJ from him.

His name is Jianwei Chen and it is the same person.  Not clear on why you would argue about it.  There is no doubt on the subject.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: IndustrialAction on December 04, 2011, 08:53:27 AM
No argument. Just seems like a nice guy and I know quite a few people HERE have his Mara Jade and are happy with it. That is all.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on December 04, 2011, 08:59:27 AM
As I mentioned, some have had good success.  That doesn't change the fact that many others were burned.  Personally, I don't support companies/people who rip other people off.  My 2 cents ;).
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: nartules on December 04, 2011, 09:26:27 AM
Actually, I've had lots of conversations with Zeb. He maintains he's not the same person and I tend to believe him. Quite a few people have his Mara Jade and have been happy with them. As soon as I have some free funds, I'm going to pick up a Luke ROTJ from him.

I agree that people can change...but when it comes to business (You are a business when you sell your goods/wares/talents) for money, you have to make up for your past transgressions before you can move forward.

If one does not, it just proves they are still the same person and that they will burn new customers just as soon as an inconvenient situation arrises.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: Caine on December 04, 2011, 09:32:20 AM
As I mentioned, some have had good success.  That doesn't change the fact that many others were burned.  Personally, I don't support companies/people who rip other people off.  My 2 cents ;).

That is 100% agreed. Many of us have seen this scenario far too often....

Person 1 asks: Is this person bad?
People respond: Yes, he is a scammer
Person 1: I am going to buy from them anyway. (all logic and common sense out the door)
People warn...
Person 1 ignores warnings, buys product....product either is never received, or ends up being horrible.
Person 1 is out $$$, is bitter and possibly gets a bad taste in their mouth of the hobby.
People shake their heads...

So along with LUMINARA, and JANGO, all I got to say is....buyer FIERCELY beware.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: vulcan fox on December 04, 2011, 03:33:35 PM
well, i agree that people can and DO change  but its very different when you are running a goods or and sales business,... the general rule to go by is you've got ONE chance with the customer , IF the customer is unhappy .?.. you simply have to make sure that if the fault lies with you or your product, then make SURE you rectify the situation to the benefit of the customer, IF you don't , WORD OF MOUTH will ruin you,and this looks like the classic case, no one trusts him. :-\
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on December 04, 2011, 03:58:16 PM
This is more than customer dissatisfaction.  This is customers who were ripped off, robbed, never got money or product ::).

Everyone can be subject to DRL, and things happen.  However, when you get back on your feet you take care of your debts rather than changing your name and hiding out for 4 years profiting off of the hobby but never making amends to those you stole from >:(.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: vulcan fox on December 05, 2011, 09:56:38 AM
well if thats the case ? he should be finished as a business man and all posts warning people of his former business conduct should take heed.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: EXAR KUN on December 05, 2011, 01:29:57 PM
It was confirmed as an Alt. account for 5postboy. 2 different sources with screencaps, both long time members.

Why would you consider buying form someone banned from the forums? :-\

What do you mean by 'two different sources with screencaps?"

I'm not understanding that part.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on December 05, 2011, 01:31:01 PM
We have clear cut evidence that simplyprop is Chen Jianwei who is 5postboy.  We cannot elaborate more than that ;).
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: EXAR KUN on December 05, 2011, 01:43:26 PM
Ah, I hear you.

I wasn't necessarily asking for more info than you can give, just I didn't understand the terms Jango was using is all. ;D
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: Caine on December 05, 2011, 03:46:42 PM
Ah, I hear you.

I wasn't necessarily asking for more info than you can give, just I didn't understand the terms Jango was using is all. ;D

Bounty Hunters have their own language...don't you know that?  Sheesh! :D
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: RoHan Solo on June 05, 2012, 04:30:15 AM
Good to know, I saw one of his Mara Jade hilts on ebay today for $350+ under the seller name iprop. Thought it looked like a good candidate for a potential conversion but after some research on here, decided against it.

Especially since he was selling the same hilts on here June 2011 for under $300, (see http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=32092.msg430594#msg430594 (http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=32092.msg430594#msg430594) ) and in January 2011 including shipping anywhere worldwide for $240. (see http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=28155.msg393122#msg393122 (http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=28155.msg393122#msg393122) )
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: Scruffy Nerf Herder on June 05, 2012, 04:39:09 AM
There are a few members here who have that Mara Jade and say it's a good hilt....food for thought.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: RoHan Solo on June 05, 2012, 04:44:38 AM
Don't get me wrong, the hilt itself looked wonderful. It wasn't the hilt I was worried about as much as the transaction itself given his apparent reputation. Oh, and the price. Why pay $350+ if I could get it for $240?  ;)
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: Gil Gamesh on June 05, 2012, 10:26:13 AM
There are a few members here who have that Mara Jade and say it's a good hilt....food for thought.

more palpable food for thought is the fact there are more members warning AGAINST ANY BUSINESS dealings with this person, vs members giving his praise.  Buyer be very ware
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: RoHan Solo on June 05, 2012, 03:45:40 PM
more palpable food for thought is the fact there are more members warning AGAINST ANY BUSINESS dealings with this person, vs members giving his praise.  Buyer be very ware

Indeed. Caveat emptor. Very glad to have these forums as an invaluable resource.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: scottjua on June 05, 2012, 07:59:50 PM
I bought something from him before I knew he was considered shady. After I found out I was super paranoid, but he was courteous, timely and kept all his promises.

Weird...

Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: SithStalker on June 07, 2012, 10:19:31 AM
Here is my comparison of the Mara Jade from Simplyprop (I got it form Space Windu) and my JK-Sabers Mara Jade.  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZYBaW-cArc&feature=plcp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZYBaW-cArc&feature=plcp)
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on June 07, 2012, 10:22:56 AM
Most of these guys who don't deliver product are inconsistent.  Sometimes you get what you order, sometimes you don't.  Question is, are you OK playing Russian Roulette with your money?  Second question, are you OK supporting someone who has ripped off many other members of the community?
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: Onli-Won Kanomi on June 07, 2012, 01:47:39 PM
Second question, are you OK supporting someone who has ripped off many other members of the community?

^^^ This.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: Scruffy Nerf Herder on June 07, 2012, 02:18:14 PM
Second question, are you OK supporting someone who has ripped off many other members of the community?

^^^ This.

It's good food for thought however if one chooses to purchase from this individual it all comes down to personal choice.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: Forgetful Jedi Knight on June 07, 2012, 02:40:29 PM
It's good food for thought however if one chooses to purchase from this individual it all comes down to personal choice.

True, if one decides to go against sound advice, and loses their money... that's their issue, and their issue alone.  :o

Warnings are issued for a reason... not because people here want to raise their post counts (normally), but because many of us try to spare people potential grief and aggravation.  ;)
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: SithStalker on June 09, 2012, 02:17:42 PM
Before some minutes I uploaded my new video with the Simplyprop Mara Jade lightsaber  8).

Here is the link, if you are interested:
&feature=plcp
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: scottjua on June 09, 2012, 03:06:19 PM
Before some minutes I uploaded my new video with the Simplyprop Mara Jade lightsaber  8).

Here is the link, if you are interested:
&feature=plcp

Looks great. What sound board is that?
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: SithStalker on June 11, 2012, 07:25:05 AM
Before some minutes I uploaded my new video with the Simplyprop Mara Jade lightsaber  8).

Here is the link, if you are interested:
&feature=plcp

Looks great. What sound board is that?

It is a Makoto 2.0 soundboard  ;)
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: bombarta on February 16, 2014, 05:27:18 AM
I know this thread is old now, but wolf10100 and myself have been I touch with him. We also know that all jksabers tfu1 and mj hilts are simply props as are ro saberas tfu1 which are heavily modded.
Reading this has now made myself think twice before placing these on our site.
Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: jediknightsteve on February 16, 2014, 07:06:31 AM
I don't know whether I have understood because my english is bad. but not all my tfu1 SK are simplyprops. 2011/12 and 13 SK are 100% JK-SABERS and the 2014 model is 65% JK and 35% simplyprops. only the mara 2013/14 is 50% JK and 50% Simplyprops.
just for info.
and I also have no problems with simplyprops.
I can not judge him. He has not betrayed me.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: Justintmars on February 16, 2014, 09:35:21 AM
Jq sabers who is in the guild worked with simply props on the Excalibur.
Does that mean that simply props is back in our fold?
They state here that they worked with Jq and have
Their permission to sell their own.
I. Confused.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=g-high-u&v=00wqmzf1Koc (http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=g-high-u&v=00wqmzf1Koc)
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: Forgetful Jedi Knight on February 16, 2014, 09:46:24 AM
Jq sabers who is in the guild worked with simply props on the Excalibur.
Does that mean that simply props is back in our fold?
They state here that they worked with Jq and have
Their permission to sell their own.
I. Confused.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=g-high-u&v=00wqmzf1Koc (http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=g-high-u&v=00wqmzf1Koc)

I didn't see anything where JQ says they worked with this guy. He posted a link to their site for "their" version of a saber with a slightly different name.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on February 16, 2014, 09:50:15 AM
Jq sabers who is in the guild worked with simply props on the Excalibur.
Does that mean that simply props is back in our fold?
They state here that they worked with Jq and have
Their permission to sell their own.
I. Confused.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=g-high-u&v=00wqmzf1Koc (http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=g-high-u&v=00wqmzf1Koc)

No Simplyprops is not "Back in our Fold".  He would need to pay back all the funds he took before that would even be considered >:(.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: wolf10100 on February 16, 2014, 09:59:35 AM
I am certainly glad that I stumbled across this thread. It is sooo important in a "hobby" / "collectors" site such as this to keep in tune with who is problematic or not. I know that people can have different opinions (we are only human after all) but as has been mentioned, If so many people are warning against someone, or even just one particular product, its kind of difficult to ignore those warnings

made an interested read, that's for sure
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: Maverick Hunter on February 16, 2014, 10:10:51 AM
hmm that's strange of simplyprops, I've done 2 transactions with him and both were successful, I got the latest Starkiller version 5 from him and a Luke Rotj (his latest 2014 version) both amazing pieces of work and of good quality, I'm kinda surprised to find he owes money? ???
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: Justintmars on February 16, 2014, 10:16:56 AM
Jq sabers who is in the guild worked with simply props on the Excalibur.
Does that mean that simply props is back in our fold?
They state here that they worked with Jq and have
Their permission to sell their own.
I. Confused.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=g-high-u&v=00wqmzf1Koc (http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=g-high-u&v=00wqmzf1Koc)

No Simplyprops is not "Back in our Fold".  He would need to pay back all the funds he took before that would even be considered >:(.
So he must be lying when he said he got Jq's permission.
That is NOT COOL!
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: LUMINARA UNDULI on February 16, 2014, 10:34:55 AM
I do not know about his relationship with the JQs.  It is possible they were not aware of the situation.  As far as FX-SABERs he is not a member here and we do not endorse his work.  It is caveat emptor should you choose to risk your funds and support someone who has not made good on transactions with other community members.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: Justintmars on February 16, 2014, 10:48:16 AM
I think it's been said before, but just because you buy from him and it works well for you,
Other people In the community have had a bad experience. So helping him stay In business, is like saying to those other members that had Bad experiences "doesn't matter as long as it works for me"
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: Forgetful Jedi Knight on February 16, 2014, 12:20:52 PM
I do not know about his relationship with the JQs.  It is possible they were not aware of the situation.  As far as FX-SABERs he is not a member here and we do not endorse his work.  It is caveat emptor should you choose to risk your funds and support someone who has not made good on transactions with other community members.

I agree completely.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: Mockingbird on September 15, 2015, 03:51:52 AM
There's a very big difference between making and selling "mass production" items like the Mara Jade lightsaber and taking the time to follow through on custom orders. It's easy enough to find the Mara Jade and Starkiller sabers because it seems clear that he has a few standard models, and standard models are easier and cheaper to make.
I contacted him about a custom job, and - like you've heard already - he took the money. Six months later he was "just waiting on a tool to arrive." Six months after that he pretended to have been waiting on me to get back to him about some part of the design (it should be noted that I sent him 360 bitmap renderings and a 3d model. I never received any email. We live in the age of Gmail that will save all of your emails for all time and forever and organize them into threads. I contacted him three times asking what aspects of the design needed to be discussed. He never replied.
The reality is that he defrauded me. My advice to you is this: if you think you're going to spin the chamber with this guy, pay only through PayPal, and report him through PayPal if you don't have something legitimate within 180 days because that's the latest that you can open a dispute on PayPal. If PayPal finds an issue, you'll get your money back, and maybe he'll eventually have his account suspended there as well.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: AgonizedCandle on October 27, 2015, 11:57:52 PM
I'll add my input here. I ordered a hilt from SimplyProp six months ago. I know, I should have done more research. He hasn't responded to emails and it's too late for me to file a claim with paypal. Be careful who you send your money to! Don't be dumb like me.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: TRDNiteLife on October 28, 2015, 05:49:18 AM
I'll add my input here. I ordered a hilt from SimplyProp six months ago. I know, I should have done more research. He hasn't responded to emails and it's too late for me to file a claim with paypal. Be careful who you send your money to! Don't be dumb like me.

Contact your bank. Do not just let it go.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: smcady on August 30, 2016, 07:17:02 AM
Is this guy officially done with sabers? Suddenly there aren't any decent FUSKS around...
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: Grigoris on November 19, 2017, 07:09:56 PM
I'm selling a SP SK modded by DA with some IA goodness. VV has an SK coming soon. There are other builds out there but they're not on my favorites list.
Title: Re: Simplyprop?
Post by: Yoda on November 19, 2017, 07:25:10 PM
I'm selling a SP SK modded by DA with some IA goodness. VV has an SK coming soon. There are other builds out there but they're not on my favorites list.

You should post this as a for sale in the Lightsaber section with a couple pics if possible as it won't be seen here as much :wink: