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Title: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on January 17, 2007, 08:00:17 PM
Hello everyone, guess where I went today... that's right Master Replicas Headquarters.
Upon arriving at Master Replicas I was again greeted by everyones favorite customer service representative Amy Blanchard.
I again had a chance to meet with to other great gentlemen, Keith Bornholtz and Travis Allen. With whom I discuss some more future Ideas but that's another story for another time.

So now... on to the First Review of the new Yoda Force FX-Lightsaber Replica


Star Wars, Episode II: Attack of the Clones - YODA Force FX Lightsaber Replica.

Since Yoda was created digitally for the prequel trilogy, his lightsaber was also a digital construct. And so, Lucasfilm once again granted Master Replicas engineers access to the ILM computer files and reference images, allowing for the creation of the most authentic, realistic Force FX lightsaber possible. While the Yoda Force FX Lightsaber is smaller than anything released to date – measuring roughly 33-inches (including the blade), versus average Force FX which measures 44 inches – remember, as Yoda taught us, “Size Matters Not!”

The Yoda Force FX features:

·        An enhanced glowing green blade with realistic power-up and power-down light effects. The power-up and power-down light effects are produced by a string of 64 super-bright LEDs that ignite sequentially inside the blade.
(prototype color is similar to Luke ROTJ but with better smoother diffusion)

·        Five motion sensor controlled sound effects digitally recorded from the movie: power-up, idle hum, swing, clash, and power-down.
(prototype inspected used the standard Jedi soundboard, though a new sound module may actually already be in the production models)

·        3 built-in motion sensors for super sensitivity: 2 for detecting movement and 1 for detecting the impact of the blade.
(prototype inspected using darth maul sized AAA battery pack, held in place by a traditional bottom loaded screw-in pommel)

·        A durable metal hilt looks and feels like a real lightsaber.
(prototype benefits from upgraded assembly practices, fabrication and metal quality similar to Darth Maul models.)
(The emitter shroud is a thick metal and as a formed piece is very well done and is a very high quality)


·        A sturdy blade is permanently attached to the hilt. 
(prototype inspected has a custom size blade that is thinner than the standard 1 inch blade, but is thicker than a 3/4)

The weapon of the Master Yoda – definitely worth adding to your collection! (scheduled to start shipping in March

Additional notes from YODA:
Upon first sight of the Saber, I was significantly more impressed with it than I was the Obi-wan, simply for the fit finish and materials used.
 It is a high quality piece similar and will remind many of the solid construction practices recently incorporated into the Darth Maul.
After handling the New FX, I would like to note that this particular model with it's smaller size and lighter weight can
actually be used for fencing maneuvers and would be well complimented by a Sidious Model of similar size and blade construction.


I already have a special place set-up and waiting to display my new Saber when it arrives.
MTFBWY
always
YODA

http://www.fx-sabers.com/YodaFX1.jpg
http://www.fx-sabers.com/YodaFX2.jpg
http://www.fx-sabers.com/YodaFX3.jpg
http://www.fx-sabers.com/YodaFX4.jpg


In closing we were happy to have been able to help Master replicas see the demand for this Saber and will continue
to provide our resources for future projects.
A special thanks goes out to Amy, Keith, Travis, Andrew and Michael  8)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Cyano Khaar on January 17, 2007, 08:04:19 PM
Nice. I have never liked the yoda saber, but the more FX saber the better. Nice review.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Jaden Korr on January 17, 2007, 08:04:57 PM
WOW very impressive.

I am looking forward to this saber. Thanks for the recon yoda!
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: benlurkin on January 17, 2007, 08:25:18 PM
Quite the exclusive from our own wise Jedi Master.  I'm really impressed with the look of it, and the relative size compared to the Ani ROTS FX is remarkable.  It does look a bit bigger than the LE counterpart but that is to be expected.  Overall it looks amazing and has confirmed and intensified my excitement for the release.  ;D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Darth Raijlin on January 17, 2007, 08:35:37 PM
The best thing about this saber....it marks the future for a possibility of a Sidious Blade since the electronics are so small.  (prays for another Sith Blade to bring balance to the Force FX) 

 :D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on January 17, 2007, 08:48:44 PM
Quite the exclusive from our own wise Jedi Master.  I'm really impressed with the look of it, and the relative size compared to the Ani ROTS FX is remarkable.  It does look a bit bigger than the LE counterpart but that is to be expected.  Overall it looks amazing and has confirmed and intensified my excitement for the release.  ;D

Yes it was be fitting (and MR saw the relevance as well) to have Yoda do the FIRST Yoda fx review.


Quote
The best thing about this saber....it marks the future for a possibility of a Sidious Blade since the electronics are so small.  (prays for another Sith Blade to bring balance to the Force FX)

And they recognise the need for a Sidious to go with it but it's all in development time etc...

They would be perfect for a more foil/fencing style duel as I've pointed out ;)

I like it and I'm confident that even with the smaller blade, the Ultra optical film will still create a fully lit blade
for those future conversions it will bring.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Darth Raijlin on January 17, 2007, 08:57:58 PM
It's funny you mention the fencing style.  I'm trying to get started around here locally a "live action fighting" reenactment of Star Wars.  Kind of like what the SCA did in the 70's with medieval reenactment.

My friends and I, utlizing our knowledge of fencing and heavy combat in the SCA, are trying to hammer out safety rules.  What "armor" requirements would be for protection, and whatnot.

The SCA started as a small group of people in Berkley, CA who wanted to reenact like the Renaissance Faire, but have non-rehearsed, live fighting.  Now...it's a world-wide organization.

I think that I may pick up a Yoda just to look at the options since it does have a thinner blade.  This might help with the "safety' factor.

Here's what the heavy fighting looks like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xNQz2T6xnc

Fencing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPyS3nXrMB0

Now imagine something like that....except with Lightsabers!  Now...that's not even getting into the "starlight tournies" we have!
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: BEN KENOBI on January 17, 2007, 09:06:27 PM
Great Review master yoda!!I've preordered mine!!That saber looked awesome!!BTY Did they tell you anything on your job maybe there or not? DaJoQuim
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on January 17, 2007, 09:10:20 PM
Yes I see 8)

Corbin and I have actually talked about similar things and it is what in choreography
is considered "free fighting"

As long as you know all the basic blocks, and attacks then may like to free fight because
it will help enhance your hand eye coordination in a combat scenario.

I've done this with most all the samurais I have around the house that have their edges smoothed
but because you can still get deep gashes in the metal it is dangerous with out some protection or armor.

Good training it is and it is much safer with Luxeon converted FX's.
and a bit less brutal :D

I feel that there will be much dueling to be had at C4 this year ;D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: AAYLA SECURA on January 17, 2007, 09:18:25 PM
Wow, most interesting! Thanks for the scoop, Yoda. That's very cool that you got to go back there. :)

I'm very curious about the sound module. If the production models have the new sounds, that will be a very good thing that'll make me more excited about this release. For now, though, I'm going to have to hold off on it, as I have some mods I'm planning to do on my car in the near future.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Kyp Durron on January 17, 2007, 09:23:52 PM
This also means that they could do an Obi-Wan and Luke FX's with a thinner neck!

Great review, and you're right, the saber hilt is VERY well done indeed!

-Joclad
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on January 17, 2007, 09:31:35 PM
Great Review master yoda!!I've preordered mine!!That saber looked awesome!!BTY Did they tell you anything on your job maybe there or not? DaJoQuim

Thank you :) And I'm waiting for the Designer to get back from japan to talk with Him about the position
and I'm talking about other areas I would be of use to them as well.
I've shown them some BIG Ideas and will be going back there as soon as I can to talk more about it but
I need to finish a few things to bring back with me first so, if it is my destiny... I will do what I must ;)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: The Abbot on January 17, 2007, 10:05:49 PM
Nice review,great pics. :o
I wish you had took some video though.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on January 17, 2007, 10:15:57 PM
I gotta leave something for others to do when they start shipping and people get theirs ;)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: WEDGE ANTILLES on January 17, 2007, 10:28:25 PM
Great Review master yoda!!I've preordered mine!!That saber looked awesome!!BTY Did they tell you anything on your job maybe there or not? DaJoQuim

Thank you :) And I'm waiting for the Designer to get back from japan to talk with Him about the position
and I'm talking about other areas I would be of use to them as well.
I've shown them some BIG Ideas and will be going back there as soon as I can to talk more about it but
I need to finish a few things to bring back with me first so, if it is my destiny... I will do what I must ;)

what they need are new product lines. (not just new products)
the LE line is near the end of its possibilites,  because all the props from the main characters have already been done.
they're talking about 'EU' props and 'Jedi council' sabers (etc) because thats all there is left to make.
meanwhile the CE line was cancelled because that upset a bunch of LE owners who wanted their prop to "never be made again" (as promised).
so they're to the point now where 90% of the "main character" props have been done as LE's and can never be made again (not even as CE's)..
..so there's nothing left for the fan to buy anymore.

in a way MR kind of 'blew their load' by making limited editions of 500 units 5 years ago on props that which they promised would "never be made again" and now they can't even release CE versions for legal reasons anymore.

--> I think a great new product line would be "Jedi Utility Belt" complete with a CE-quality saber attached to the belt.
with food capsules and leather belt pouches and everything. the belt could sell for $300
and would provide an excuse to go back and reissue some of the most popular Hero Sabers that guys like me can no longer buy even if we wanted to
(because MR made limited editions of 500 units 5 years ago and now they can't remake the same props for legal reasons. LOL)

ie: it wouldn't really be a CE "saber prop", per se.... the CE would be an accessory on the "Utility Belt prop"
(so even if its the same saber,  technically speaking,   its NOT a reissue of the discontinued LE version)



possible variant products :  Obiwan and Quigon (TPM); Obiwan,anakin, mace (AOTC); obiwan, anakin (ROTS); Obiwan, Luke, stormtrooper,
Han gunbelt, Chewie bandolier (ANH); Luke, Han (ESB).. etc.. (the luke and han ESB would be gunbelts).

the possibilities are HUGE.

thats the kind of ideas you need to bring to the table.

think BIG, baby!  :D yeah!

-=======-

p.s: did I ever tell you, a few years ago I Emailed MR and told them to make helmets?
-->  about 8 months later they announced the first ones.  :D I can only hope I had something to do with it. 
(just like a dozen other guys who probably sent the same Email LOL)    ;P



 
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Grouch on January 17, 2007, 10:30:49 PM
I can't wait for this to come out. You said MR knows they need  ;D to make a sidious. Any idea if it will be a V1 or V2? A V2 would match for his fight with yoda.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on January 17, 2007, 10:38:08 PM
Grouch:
I'd imagine it would be the version they currently have released as far as the Sidious goes ;)

Cobalt:
I hear you... 8)

And don't worry when I think BIG... trust me, I think Life size  :D ;)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Vosk on January 17, 2007, 11:25:08 PM
Edit: I just read that you said the proto-type had the recyled Jedi sounds.  I hope though the final ones do have the current character sounds. 

Edit again: I will ask though where was the activation switch on the saber?
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on January 17, 2007, 11:37:44 PM
Oh sorry I though I did point that out :D

It is the small green button inside the center band shroud. If you look at the close up of it you'll
see it simply slides up and down to turn on/off.
It also engages with a firm click so it won't turn off easily either ;)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Vosk on January 17, 2007, 11:53:56 PM
Awesome thanks for the info. :)  Also thanks for the review.  I know I'm definitely going to buy one eventually.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on January 18, 2007, 12:03:21 AM
No problem :) I'm glad everyone is enjoying the review...

I know I'm looking forward to getting mine 8)

And having been able to hold and use it today makes the wait that much longer :D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: The Abbot on January 18, 2007, 12:06:30 AM
I gotta leave something for others to do when they start shipping and people get theirs ;)


Thanks that will def be me ;)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Mojo_LA on January 18, 2007, 12:12:56 AM
Ack!  Yoda!  The question has been danced around but not actually answered, will the production sabers actually have the movie sounds?  You said they MAY be shipping with a new sound chip, but did MR confirm new sounds?

Also, any word on if the re-relase of the Vader and Luke sabers this year will have any improvements?

And I must say, although I'm not really interested in a smaller saber, that Yoda FFX does indeed look very well built.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: The Abbot on January 18, 2007, 02:53:08 AM
Ack!  Yoda!  The question has been danced around but not actually answered, will the production sabers actually have the movie sounds?  You said they MAY be shipping with a new sound chip, but did MR confirm new sounds?

Also, any word on if the re-relase of the Vader and Luke sabers this year will have any improvements?

And I must say, although I'm not really interested in a smaller saber, that Yoda FFX does indeed look very well built.

I doubt the sounds will be dif then the other Jedi sabers,just a slightly dif tone like always.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Gnosis on January 18, 2007, 03:29:56 AM
Most Impressive
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Kyp Durron on January 18, 2007, 04:11:15 AM
I do sincerly hope that starting with this saber that it will have accurate movie sounds rather than the same tired old recycled "Jedi sounds". ::)

If the sounds are accurate, then that may be enough to sway me into getting this one.  :P

-Joclad
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: darthmaddy on January 18, 2007, 05:05:56 AM
That'd be cool if they let all the mods get the first review of each FFX.  Hey Obi Wan you wanna switch names later this year? ;D  I'm excited about this saber, not so much that its a Yoda FX, but the advancement in tech that allows them to make the electronics fit.  Opens up many doors this does.  I haven't had my hopes up for new sounds so I'm still excited about this saber.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: The Abbot on January 18, 2007, 07:10:16 AM
I do sincerly hope that starting with this saber that it will have accurate movie sounds rather than the same tired old recycled "Jedi sounds". ::)

If the sounds are accurate, then that may be enough to sway me into getting this one.  :P

-Joclad

Well they have to pay a license fee for each sound they use,so my guess is Lucas is charging through the roof so that are milking the existing licensed sounds for all they can.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Knuckle01 on January 18, 2007, 10:55:53 AM
great review on the little saber, lol. looks like MR did a nice job in producing this new lightsaber.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Jedi_Qaid on January 18, 2007, 11:18:43 AM
Excellent review Yoda...

I'm not certain if I'm going to get a Master Yoda FX, yet but I would love to have a Master Qui Gon Jinn FX...

 ;)

Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Dark Skywalker on January 18, 2007, 12:16:34 PM
I am having mixed feelings about this saber, it is cool, but I don't know if I'll get it ::) Great review Yoda ;D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: todd4566 on January 18, 2007, 02:51:07 PM
Looks nicer than I had expected, but no thanks if the jedi sounds are recycled for.. what.. the 8th time now?!
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: darthmaddy on January 18, 2007, 04:02:52 PM
It is getting redundant, I agree.  Hopefully it will be the next saber that will have new sounds, they have said it is in the works to get new sounds.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Darth Bane on January 18, 2007, 04:30:55 PM
nice review.... did you ever get that job at Master Replica??
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Knuckle01 on January 18, 2007, 04:53:36 PM
i think there gonna keep the standard "jedi" sounds in it......
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: PLO KOON on January 18, 2007, 05:48:15 PM
i think there gonna keep the standard "jedi" sounds in it......

I hope not... new sounds will make me buy the saber.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on January 19, 2007, 12:51:20 AM
I will let you know more when I know more ;)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: ryanlb on January 19, 2007, 08:36:58 AM
I agree, this saber does look very nice.  I won't be getting it, but it does give me the hope that someday -- obviously not this year -- we'll see a Sidious.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: PLO KOON on January 19, 2007, 08:50:57 AM
A sidious would be cool too... But I'm more keen on a DOOKU...
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: ryanlb on January 19, 2007, 08:54:55 AM
A sidious would be cool too... But I'm more keen on a DOOKU...

I'd happily buy both!
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: BIGGS DARKLIGHTER on January 19, 2007, 09:35:46 AM
I like it. I'll eventually pick one up but I'm going to have to wait for awhile until I can find it a lot cheaper (or someone gives it to me as a gift). Too low on funds right now =(
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Knuckle01 on January 19, 2007, 11:01:18 AM
now the sidous...i'll buy
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: levelnext on January 19, 2007, 11:28:26 AM
now the sidous...i'll buy

i concur with master AGEN.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: MRCUSTOMERCARE on January 19, 2007, 12:17:26 PM
Thanks for the great review Yoda!  It is always a pleasure visiting with you.  I look forward to seeing you again soon.

Amy
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Bandit-Jedi on January 19, 2007, 12:22:05 PM
TOO COOL!

Must have been a great time getting to go back to MR and chat about the future with the crew and man that Yoda saber looks sweet.  Glad that I got one coming to me on the group purchase (thanks sycor!)

I think this was the 1st ever FFX "prototype" review.


About the sounds, after what Bryan told me at SDCC they were gearing up to use the actual specific sounds for each saber and I hope they are able to do this starting with the Yoda.   Bryan knows thats what we all want so I know they are working on it.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: HAN SOLO on January 19, 2007, 12:25:27 PM
Good review, Master Yoda. However, it appears that it will not sell well if it lacks the proper sound. I mean, I am tempted to not even purchase this one unless it has the proper sounds.  I mean, let's face. Master Replicas is supposed to be just that. MASTER REPLICAS. They are supposed to be the most accurate and a pinacle of all these products in the market. I feel that the majority of the FX fans are fed up with the tedious rehashment of the sound boards. I know am. I also believe that in order to make money, one has to spend money. Greed is a bad motivator if it is used through inferiority. (Meaning, let's get as much money as we can and sacrifice the product. We can always say it was faulty.) I know that I wouldn't want a bullet-proof vest that would not withstand the caliber rating it was set at, just to fill their pockets.

Also, Colbalt, in regards to creating the belts, $300 is WAY too much for a CE-style belt set. I mean, there are Internet companies who sell excellent belt sets for a third of that price. And they are VERY WELL MADE. I know because I own one and it withstood a good amount of punishment when my bro and I went at it with the sabers. My motto has always been, "Go hard or GO HOME!".

 ;D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: WEDGE ANTILLES on January 19, 2007, 01:01:51 PM
Also, Colbalt, in regards to creating the belts, $300 is WAY too much for a CE-style belt set. I mean, there are Internet companies who sell excellent belt sets for a third of that price. And they are VERY WELL MADE. I know because I own one and it withstood a good amount of punishment when my bro and I went at it with the sabers. My motto has always been, "Go hard or GO HOME!".

 ;D


well just so you know where I'm coming from..   I just bought one of these for $150  *shrug*   

http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Anakin-Style-Jedi-Costume-Belt-Pouches-Prop_W0QQitemZ260074662906QQihZ016QQcategoryZ999

(and yeah I've seen cheaper belts on Ebay too but I've never seen better quality than this. 
I would imagine an MR belt to be as good (or better) than this one, quality-wise)

---> if it came with a CE saber..   I'd pay $300
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Jedi Kure on January 19, 2007, 01:48:53 PM
Great Job as always Master Yoda!  I can't imagine how that felt to hold the yoda ffx after bringing your own prototype to there attention and finally seeing a neer-finished product made. I can only see great things for MR's with Yoda on the team. (not saying that they don't do a great job now)

The Yoda FFX looks amazing and I too am glad I got in on the group order  ;D
The sounds don't really bother me "that much" as i mostly just display mine, but it would be great if they do get the new sounds for this saber as it is Master Yoda's and would start off a great year for 2007.

-Jedi Kure-

Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Kyp Durron on January 19, 2007, 03:13:56 PM
TOO COOL!

Must have been a great time getting to go back to MR and chat about the future with the crew and man that Yoda saber looks sweet.  Glad that I got one coming to me on the group purchase (thanks sycor!)

I think this was the 1st ever FFX "prototype" review.


About the sounds, after what Bryan told me at SDCC they were gearing up to use the actual specific sounds for each saber and I hope they are able to do this starting with the Yoda.   Bryan knows thats what we all want so I know they are working on it.

No accurate sounds, no purchase by me. End. Of. Story. :-|

The only reason that I haven't gotten in on the group order is because I don't know if it will have the RIGHT sounds or not.

That, and my Yoda-made Luxeon V Graflex funding must come first, lol.  :P

-Joclad
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Knuckle01 on January 19, 2007, 04:30:56 PM
its gonna have standard jedi sounds. look if MR didnt do it to the Maul which had COMPLETELY different sounds than any other lightsaber....there not gonna do it to the yoda
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: robiwan on January 20, 2007, 04:58:10 AM
All speculation right now on the sounds. Until MR says something officialy or we get a review of an actual production model, I will reserve judgement on the purchase of this saber.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Darthirishman on January 20, 2007, 05:37:45 AM
We shall all see when the first production model comes around if the sounds are different and how this new saber hold up to the previous one.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Jedi_Qaid on January 20, 2007, 07:24:36 AM
We shall all see when the first production model comes around if the sounds are different and how this new saber hold up to the previous one.


This is true, since MR has an account here perhaps they'll heed the advice and comments we make...
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Vosk on January 20, 2007, 07:32:28 AM
its gonna have standard jedi sounds.

No offense but how exactly do you know it will have the standard Jedi sounds?  Have you seen the final production hilt before any of us?  I'm guessing no... right now it's all speculation.  The only people who actually know are the people from Master Replicas.

Now I can see why the proto type has the standard Jedi sounds but they most likely changed the sound board for the final production hilt to the actual character sounds.  Like robiwon I plan just to wait until we get an actual review of the production version of this FX saber.  To me even if it has the standard Jedi sounds I will still get it but I'm not going to be just say, "Oh it's going to have the standard sounds" with out knowing for sure.

As I said no offense but that was a bit premature for you to say.

Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: HAN SOLO on January 20, 2007, 09:05:45 AM
Also, Colbalt, in regards to creating the belts, $300 is WAY too much for a CE-style belt set. I mean, there are Internet companies who sell excellent belt sets for a third of that price. And they are VERY WELL MADE. I know because I own one and it withstood a good amount of punishment when my bro and I went at it with the sabers. My motto has always been, "Go hard or GO HOME!".

 ;D


well just so you know where I'm coming from..   I just bought one of these for $150  *shrug*   

http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Anakin-Style-Jedi-Costume-Belt-Pouches-Prop_W0QQitemZ260074662906QQihZ016QQcategoryZ999

(and yeah I've seen cheaper belts on Ebay too but I've never seen better quality than this. 
I would imagine an MR belt to be as good (or better) than this one, quality-wise)

---> if it came with a CE saber..   I'd pay $300

Not bad. Didn't see this one last year. A little pricey for the amount of items you get with it, but nice. I got my leather one for $50 cheaper and had more pouches and capsules with it. Shipping about the same I paid for mine.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: robiwan on January 20, 2007, 11:30:29 AM
Yoda, not to be nit picky or anything, but since this is not a production run, off the line saber, shouldn't it be "Preview"?  :-*
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on January 20, 2007, 12:57:57 PM
It is a review because everything is finalized exxcept for the sounds so what you see in the pictures
is representing the production models as far as it's looks go ;)

Again everyone...
Sound is something that MR knows to change BUT... all new things need Lucas approval.

There are a few things I know of I can't say anything about that are waiting for Lucas approval as well
so we will see.

MTFBWY
always
YODA

P.S.
I'm personally not worried about sound because the saber it's self is so different from the others with
the smaller size and thinner blade etc...
I also think once the thinner blade is tested with the Ultra Film we may even see a return to the
3/4 blades in the aftermarket simply to have a change from the 1inch blades we've been using for some time now.

I like both sizes and this smaller size is far more suited to one handed dueling/fencing so I see where it will
open up some new options for enthusiasts 8) especially if we can get a Sidious to go with it ;)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: SAESEE TIIN on January 20, 2007, 01:06:40 PM
I like the idea of the thinner blade, simply because if MR ever goes back to an old saber (or a new one)  They might be able to fix that fat neck issue a bit.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Knuckle01 on January 20, 2007, 03:44:40 PM
its gonna have standard jedi sounds.

No offense but how exactly do you know it will have the standard Jedi sounds?  Have you seen the final production hilt before any of us?  I'm guessing no... right now it's all speculation.  The only people who actually know are the people from Master Replicas.

Now I can see why the proto type has the standard Jedi sounds but they most likely changed the sound board for the final production hilt to the actual character sounds.  Like robiwon I plan just to wait until we get an actual review of the production version of this FX saber.  To me even if it has the standard Jedi sounds I will still get it but I'm not going to be just say, "Oh it's going to have the standard sounds" with out knowing for sure.

As I said no offense but that was a bit premature for you to say.



sorry you took what i said to heart, lol.....it's not that serious
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Dark Skywalker on January 20, 2007, 04:02:11 PM
I like the idea of the thinner blade, simply because if MR ever goes back to an old saber (or a new one)  They might be able to fix that fat neck issue a bit.

That wpuld be awesome :D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Darthirishman on January 20, 2007, 04:42:01 PM
I personally would like more Sith sabers, we dont have enough.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Shade Valryn on January 20, 2007, 04:54:07 PM
I personally would like more Sith sabers, we dont have enough.

True dat, I would like a hold of a darth tyranus fx. That is my top saber to get, I've always wanted one since I've seen a pic of that hilt.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Vosk on January 20, 2007, 05:07:45 PM
If MR did a Dooku and Sidious sabers I'd buy them.  I agree we don't have enough Sith sabers.

I plan on getting the Vader ANH since I don't have any incarnations of the Vader saber.  If they do the ROTJ or ROTS version I'll get that too.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on January 20, 2007, 05:35:32 PM
I'm working on encouraging that path ;)

as well as a few more highly demanded Jedi sabers but, one at a time... :D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: BEN KENOBI on January 20, 2007, 05:51:07 PM
I know you have our backs master yoda!!you're da man!!DaJoQuim
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Kyp Durron on January 20, 2007, 06:03:20 PM
Qui-Gon...you must have them make Qui-Gon...then and only then will my green bladed urge be satisfied.  :P   :D

-Joclad
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on January 20, 2007, 08:19:38 PM
Quigon and Obiwan TPM are the next suggested Jedi Sabers and they don't pose any real design issues...
it all a matter of time and what is in each budget for each year ;)

As long as continued collection is seen... there will be more to come.

For now we will enjoy the Yoda once they start shipping.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: darthmaddy on January 20, 2007, 10:09:13 PM
So the Yoda is going to be a pretty light saber?  How is the weight of the blade?  I always like my sabers to be as light as possible, which is why I really favor my FX-Sabers Graflex and Luke ROTJ.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on January 20, 2007, 11:44:29 PM
The Hilt will be lighter than the Graflex as well as the blade because of the smaller diameter as well.
You'll like it ;)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Louis on January 21, 2007, 02:48:31 AM
Wow, Master Yoda, that's a great review you've made here! An exclusive one!!!

The master testing is own lightsaber! ha ha ha, that sounds xxx' cool!!

So, the pics are great too, and we can have a good idea of the hilt's size. It'is a little bigger than I first tought, but it's very smaller than the actual hilts.

But, I wonder if that Yoda Fx will seem just "same size"" beside the future more accurate hilts. See what I mean??? Using this new tech, I guess that MR will make a new serie of FX, with more accurate size. And when those will be available, the size difference will be little than now.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: robiwan on January 21, 2007, 04:18:25 AM
As always Yoda, your wisdom shines thru, I stand corrected. Question, are the rectangular grips hard rubber or foam rubber? Because of the color they look like they are soft, if that makes any sense. Oh, and any chance of an old Jedi mind trick to find out what you know about what they are working on?
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Jedi Farmboy on January 21, 2007, 04:37:21 AM
As well built as this saber looks, I think I'll give it a miss. I'm 6'3 and I think I would look almost ridiculous wielding such a small saber lol.

Besides Im holding out for that Luke ANH :D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on January 21, 2007, 05:07:03 PM
I do have good news from Ultra about the 3/4 th blades with His optical film.
He said it looks just as bright as the 1 inch blades and if He can get a 1 inch to fit
then that may be an option as well 8)

So don't think the Yoda will remian a "small" blade once converted.
Either blade size will still make this a superb one handed saber! ;D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: HAN SOLO on January 21, 2007, 06:16:02 PM
As well built as this saber looks, I think I'll give it a miss. I'm 6'3 and I think I would look almost ridiculous wielding such a small saber lol.

Besides Im holding out for that Luke ANH :D

Hehehe. Are you a teacher, Jedi Farmboy? That would make a great pointer for ya!  ;)

I cuncur about the length. I am slightly shorter than you. However, I will most likely order it as I love to collect these. And I know that I will be getting my nephew one for his Birthday.  :)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Chowser on January 21, 2007, 10:29:43 PM
I do have good news from Ultra about the 3/4 th blades with His optical film.
He said it looks just as bright as the 1 inch blades and if He can get a 1 inch to fit
then that may be an option as well 8)

Good to know about the fiber optic, as soon as i get my Yoda, it'll go right to Ultra for conversion once he's ready for Yoda.
Need mine to experiment on Ultra?

Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Scarey on January 23, 2007, 05:06:16 PM
Looks very well put together, would look good in any one's star Wars collection

The other saber release  Is the one i'm awaiting, Dooku or TPM Obi wan will be the next i purchase

Yoda looks unreal  cant wait to see the reviews and such for when it's on the market
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: BEN KENOBI on January 23, 2007, 06:13:58 PM
 ;D I know I'll be glad when I get mine!!I'll post my pics and review for sure!!hahaDaJoQuim
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Shade Valryn on January 23, 2007, 07:31:23 PM
;D I know I'll be glad when I get mine!!I'll post my pics and review for sure!!hahaDaJoQuim

ty DJQ, ty. as for myself, I'm not very interested in the yoda fx saber except maybe in a luxeon form for duel wielding to put in my off hand.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Chowser on January 23, 2007, 10:35:11 PM
I'm not very interested in the yoda fx saber except maybe in a luxeon form for duel wielding to put in my off hand.

That's what I'm doing, I actually am planning on sending it to Ultra for a conversion to red.  I will be using it in my off-hand.
I'll use my Obi-Wan ROTS in my strong hand.  I was planning on using my Larbel Obi-Wan Luxeon, but I am preparing to sell it. 
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on January 24, 2007, 01:11:46 AM
Yes to convert and duel with them we must ;D

I'm sure the converted Yoda thread will be a Long one once people start getting them done :D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: HAN SOLO on January 24, 2007, 08:34:53 AM
I'm working on encouraging that path ;)

as well as a few more highly demanded Jedi sabers but, one at a time... :D

Encouraging this path, eh, Master Yoda?;)

Turning to the Dark Side...... :o
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: levelnext on January 24, 2007, 09:10:53 AM
I'm working on encouraging that path ;)

as well as a few more highly demanded Jedi sabers but, one at a time... :D

Encouraging this path, eh, Master Yoda?;)

Turning to the Dark Side...... :o

lol  :D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Mojo_LA on January 24, 2007, 11:44:02 PM
Yoda, when are the first Yoda sabers due to arrive in customer hands?  I know many of us are eagerly awaiting word on the final sound...
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Xanatos on January 25, 2007, 02:12:16 AM
Good review, I would like to see glowing blade in complete darkness.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on January 27, 2007, 03:50:30 AM
Thanks for the great review Yoda!  It is always a pleasure visiting with you.  I look forward to seeing you again soon.

Amy

You're Welcome Amy, and the pleasure is all mine :D

I will be back soon, and perhaps I can come early enough that I'll get You, Keith and Travis
out of the office and we can all do Lunch ;) 8)

And by all means go ahead and put this in the MR Blog as well ;D

I'll talk to ya soon
MTFBWY
always
YODA
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Scarey on January 28, 2007, 12:09:49 AM
ooh Lunch ;D

Business meetings   ;D ;) ;)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Darth Scythe on January 31, 2007, 07:29:48 PM
Not sure how I feel about the piece of curved metal around the top of the emitter. Yoda, does it look like it could be removed? I like the sound of this saber being light enough to use for fencing. I think I'll get one converted to red.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on February 02, 2007, 12:18:39 AM
When I was checking it out, the emitter shroud was a concern to me as well.
BUT...
after examining the prototype and checking it's constrution, my worries are lifted ;)

It is a hard formed piece that will not break easily from what I can tell 8)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: BEN KENOBI on February 02, 2007, 06:14:05 PM
hey Master yoda
     do you think that they will have new sounds with the final product;or;do you think that they ever will? i was just wondering!!DaJoQuim :-\
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: QUINLAN VOS on February 03, 2007, 12:12:21 AM
please dont think im an idiot, but since im not really a sidious fan,  is his saber really the same size as yodas?  in ep 3, his saber looka just abou thte normal size...??
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Darth Raijlin on February 03, 2007, 12:22:46 AM
His saber is very SHORT.  In fact, if you look closely, most of the time when he is wielding it with two hands, he is using an overlapped grip.  Meaning, his secondary hand is pretty much coverying the under hand, similar to how you would shoot your pistol.

I would say it's probably nearly 2/3 the size of a normal hilt.

So when everyone says that the Yoda will open up the possiblity of a sidious, it's because the compact electronics now would make it more feesible.

Also, think about Palpy's sabers.  Both the gold and the black one were designed to be hidden up his sleeve.  He'd have a more difficult  time walking around with a 12" inch saber up his sleeve.  His is probably about 8 inches or so.

I'm sure someone that owns the Limited Edition saber could get an accurate measurement for you.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Darth Raijlin on February 03, 2007, 12:23:38 AM
Oh, and no it's not a stupid question for you to ask.  You're not an idiot.  :)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: PLO KOON on February 03, 2007, 08:50:33 AM
When I find the time, I can do a comparison shot with my mini lightsabers though... or if someone can beat me to it, then great.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on February 04, 2007, 05:46:15 PM
FYI:
Any new sound used pends Lucas approval.

MR doesn't want to hold that up because they are aware of the demand for it.
We are all hoping it will be a pleasant suprise for the Yoda to have it and for future sabers ;)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: darthmaddy on February 04, 2007, 06:22:57 PM
My Sidious LE is just over 7 inches.  My friend Darth Bane has the Yoda ROTS LE and it is even shorter.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: PLO KOON on February 04, 2007, 07:41:59 PM
I have a bad feeling about this, Yoda. Cos I think the Yoda you were holding in MR hq could be the final product. Everything looks finalized to me...
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: PLO KOON on February 05, 2007, 04:19:54 AM
I'm sure someone that owns the Limited Edition saber could get an accurate measurement for you.

I've got the mini-sabers and I've made a shot comparing the Yoda lightsaber with Anakin's (ROTS)...

(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi28.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc229%2Fcirca85%2FLightsaber%2520Tags%2FDSC00819_resize.jpg&hash=12779dec11519cc9147fa9114a72463c715ec092)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Kyp Durron on February 05, 2007, 04:26:44 PM
FYI:
Any new sound used pends Lucas approval.

MR doesn't want to hold that up because they are aware of the demand for it.
We are all hoping it will be a pleasant suprise for the Yoda to have it and for future sabers ;)

So are you saying that MR doesn't want to hold up the release just for it to have the right sounds?

-Joclad
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Jedi_Qaid on February 06, 2007, 05:17:49 PM
Qui-Gon...you must have them make Qui-Gon...then and only then will my green bladed urge be satisfied.  :P   :D

-Joclad

Yes, Ditto... A Master Qui Gon Jinn FX would be VERY Appreciated...

 ;D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: benlurkin on February 07, 2007, 08:35:18 PM
LE pics is it now?  ::)

Here are a couple from my archives:
(click thumbs for full size)

(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/benlurkin/th_otherside.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/benlurkin/otherside.jpg)(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/benlurkin/th_all4.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/benlurkin/all4.jpg)

And one of the Ani and the Yoda for scale comparisons:

(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/benlurkin/th_aniyoda.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/benlurkin/aniyoda.jpg)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: PLO KOON on February 07, 2007, 10:37:55 PM
Nice! There's nothing like the full 1:1 scaled lightsabers...
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Knuckle01 on February 08, 2007, 09:40:48 AM
same size....thats interesting.....i know sidious had a smaller saber than most....but i still thought yoda's saber was much smaller
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: PLO KOON on February 08, 2007, 10:02:55 AM
Yoda's saber IS smaller... the sidious looks slightly longer than the yoda.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: HAN SOLO on February 08, 2007, 12:04:10 PM
Yoda's saber IS smaller... the sidious looks slightly longer than the yoda.

It's kinda funny too.....Ian McDiarmid is 5'10" whereas yoda is approximately 2'2". Here's an odd quote from McDiarmid......"He's terrible. Never turns up. Sends his funny little dummy that gets moved around...most unprofessional." On his co-star "Yoda" in the "Star Wars" films" (IMDb, Biography of Ian McDiarmid)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Knuckle01 on February 08, 2007, 12:36:11 PM
yoda is 2 feet tall....i actually thought he was taller than that. 2 feet of pure destruction, lol
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: HAN SOLO on February 08, 2007, 04:10:54 PM
yoda is 2 feet tall....i actually thought he was taller than that. 2 feet of pure destruction, lol

No, actually Master Kolar....According to starwars.com, he is 66 cm or 26 inches which is 2'2". You were correct.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Knuckle01 on February 08, 2007, 04:21:42 PM
i was actually thinking about it before.....one of my nephews is about 2 feet tall. i started laughing when i was thinking of this little 2 footer with a lightsaber slashing down everything and anything in its path. you have to tip your hat to lucas for coming up w/ that!
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: HAN SOLO on February 09, 2007, 08:25:35 AM
i was actually thinking about it before.....one of my nephews is about 2 feet tall. i started laughing when i was thinking of this little 2 footer with a lightsaber slashing down everything and anything in its path. you have to tip your hat to lucas for coming up w/ that!

Heeheeheehee...........Little green men....Fox Mulder would be proud! ;D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Knuckle01 on February 09, 2007, 09:44:43 AM
lol fox would be very pleased, until yoda clipped him lol
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Kyp Durron on February 25, 2007, 06:56:21 AM
You know....

looking at those pics again, I can see someone making an extended screw in piece that would allow two-handed wielding this saber a possibility.  :P

-Joclad
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on February 25, 2007, 06:42:45 PM
Little green men :D  Looked at my self that way I have not :D

Anyway back to the saber...
I'm also thinking this will need it's own type of belt clip made for holding it.

Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Super sith 22 on February 26, 2007, 11:48:44 AM
Little green men :D  Looked at my self that way I have not :D

Anyway back to the saber...
I'm also thinking this will need it's own type of belt clip made for holding it.


how did yoda hold his saber to his belt in the movies? was it just one of those CGI mix ups that can't really be explained?  i thought he had a covertech clip or at least the hasbro yoda's do.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Dark Skywalker on February 26, 2007, 04:23:39 PM
The movie version didn't have a covertec

here is the MR LE

(https://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e347/7851/Lightsaber_yoda.jpg)

No clip, the one in the movie just hung on Yoda's waist, probably by the Force :D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: BEN KENOBI on February 26, 2007, 05:43:06 PM
 8)I think that yoda had some kind of shoulder hoster !! That is the way it looked in aotc!!He sure got that bad boy in his hand fast when he wanted it lol!!DaJoQuim :-\
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on February 26, 2007, 05:59:48 PM
It actually appears to be hanging by the emitter in some shots, but again there is no
clip on his belt.

Because He's animated it's not an issue but for real world use I'd like to see something
more than just adding a covertech wheel to it...

think about it, I will ;)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: robiwan on February 26, 2007, 06:34:03 PM
What about placing one of those super strong rare earth magnets somewhere? Maybe under the shroud? Some of those are smaller than a dime but can lift fifty pounds.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Super sith 22 on February 26, 2007, 06:52:21 PM
perhaps a D-ring could be placed on the bottom (speaker) as luke's graflex was.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: PLO KOON on February 26, 2007, 09:15:34 PM
think about it, I will ;)

No need. Double sided tape will do...  ;D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Vosk on February 26, 2007, 09:19:17 PM
Or if someone really wanted to they could take a covertect knob and drill and tap a hole for the screw and add that to it between the grips.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on March 05, 2007, 02:09:07 AM
I know what magnets your talking about and I think they would bend even this stout shroud
when trying to remove it from the belt :D

I could see Yoda doing a skit where his saber is stuck :D

The Covertech wheel looks out of place  :-\

The Double sides tape would get messy and not last long. :-\

I do think perhaps a smaller more hidden D-ring may be on to something here...
Like the small d-ring on the DV ROTJ up on the hood could be tapped into the stem
on the back of the Yoda?

Perhaps even a combination D-ring/blade retainer screw :o

Once they arrive I'll look into it as well as a belt attachment 8)
Like to make something special for this I would ;D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: darthmaddy on March 05, 2007, 06:39:59 AM
maybe a special double belt hook that holds the shroud.  Two hooks side by side, and the skinny part of the shroud where it connect to the rest of the saber  goes between them.  It wouldn't require any mods to the saber.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: WEDGE ANTILLES on March 19, 2007, 04:28:53 PM
I got mine today.
the final production model looks a lot like the prototype in the first post, except for the finish.
everywhere you see "glossy" black on the prototype, its all "matte" black on the final product ('flat' black).   

first impressions:
the blade is a lot thinner than any other FX saber, and also a lot brighter.   
next to other FX's in normal daylight, the other FX's always look washed out because of sunlight (for example),
but this one is bright green even in daylight. 
its easily twice as bright as the luke ROTJ blade.  (the color is exactly the same but there's a dramatic difference in brightness).
and you can't see the individual LED's like you can with the green Luke blade. its the smoothest/brightest blade I've seen so far. 
and very very lightweight.  the hilt weighs nothing (its mostly plastic).  MR should have added "dead weight" to the inside, because it feels like a toy.   :-\

blade 10/10
hilt      6/10
sounds (same as ever)  ::)

--> overall 8/10. 

I guess. 
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: robiwan on March 19, 2007, 04:41:57 PM
PICS! PICS! PICS!
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Vosk on March 19, 2007, 04:54:01 PM
I agree do a picture review too.  :P
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Kyp Durron on March 19, 2007, 05:13:32 PM
Please do post pics!!!!!!!  ;D

So this FX is even brighter than the Obi-wan? :o

Wow...my Obi-Wan was even brighter than my stock Luke ROTJ that I used to have. It's hard to imagine a stock FX that's even brighter than the Obi-Wan.

-Joclad
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Shadowlynx on March 19, 2007, 07:25:52 PM
Where's those pics now!!!! ;)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: WEDGE ANTILLES on March 19, 2007, 07:32:31 PM
here are some pics.
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8376/img0876smallup6.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5292/img0867smallar9.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4563/img0836smallqm1.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6638/img0845smalljr1.jpg
I tried to show relative size and brightness compared to luke ROTJ. 
in the second pic, you can see that the yoda is a bit brighter even the way the camera sees light;
the yoda saturates the photo a bit more and looks 'cored' but the luke doesn't at the same exposure.
and in the last pic you can really see the difference in blade thickness.

[edit] and in the first pic, notice that little black knob: its silver/chrome on the prototype.
thats one of the differences between the prototype and production model.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on March 19, 2007, 08:57:53 PM
I got mine today as well ;D

The DHL notice said Wednesday but it arrived this morning at my Local DHL depot which
is less than 1/4 mile from me :D
so I went Litterally down the street and around the corner and picked up my new MR Yoda Force FX.

compared to the prototype I review last month obviously the noticeable changes are the flat black
and not gloss, the black knob instead of chrome (which will be a perfect luxeon set screw ;) )

the brushed finish is the same (the picts just made it look shinier)

Basically it looks like their LE or .45 with electronics in it and a little bigger ;D

The extra brightness can be attributed to both New LEDs and the lesser amount of diffusion
it goes through using th thinner blade.
But this blade would be far less stable with their current choice of p.c. tubbing if made full FX length.
It would need to use a reinforced type.

I like it  ;D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Vosk on March 19, 2007, 09:19:21 PM
Intresting pics and it's intresting to see the Yoda brighter than the Luke.  I wonder why they changed the black finishes and the knob from chrome silver to black. 

Either way I'm still getting this saber, I think it's kick arse that they even made this saber. :)  It will be perfect for those who have young Padawans.

Edit: In a way I like the flat portion for the black parts instead of the high gloss.  I think the flat black brings out the look of the saber better.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: PLO KOON on March 19, 2007, 10:09:31 PM
Very good! Even though the sounds are the same, chances are I'll be getting this one because of it's insane BRIGHTNESS...

I look forward to any photograph reviews, I cannot wait!
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Mojo_LA on March 20, 2007, 12:34:21 AM
I'm glad it's brighter, but I also think it has a lot to do with squeezing the same number of LEDs into a shorter blade - naturally it would be brighter.

But the shorter blade - i'd look silly duelling with it.  No offense to MR, obviously smaller is the nature of the Yoda saber and it does sound like it would be good for kids.

But  the same sounds mean no sale for me.  I would have bought it just for the sound chip.

When MR said they were going to start using movie accurate sounds, what the frak were they referring to??  We all pretty much want the same thing - ROTJ sounds - and the only other sabers on the horizon are re-released Luke and Vader.

Which means MORE of the same sounds.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Vosk on March 20, 2007, 12:37:33 AM
Chances are they MIGHT use accurate sounds for the Luke and Vader ANH.  If not then they'll probably use them for whatever FX sabers they release in the future.

Just because it does not have the new sounds doesn't mean it shouldn't stop you from buying the saber.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: PLO KOON on March 20, 2007, 01:33:20 AM
It's all about variety. Honestly, hearing the same sounds over and over and OVER again just gets tiresome. Then the only thing that changes is the hilt design.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: The Abbot on March 20, 2007, 04:03:43 AM
I doubt the sounds will change any time soon.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: BEN KENOBI on March 20, 2007, 02:54:37 PM
 :oHoly crap lol!!That saber looks sweet to me!!!! 8)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Aluke123 on March 20, 2007, 04:24:15 PM
great pics man :o
i can't believe how much brighter the yoda is than the luke :o
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Mojo_LA on March 20, 2007, 04:56:29 PM
Just because it does not have the new sounds doesn't mean it shouldn't stop you from buying the saber.

True... it's the lack of new sounds, the small size and the reviewers saying it felt too much like plastic and didn't have enough weight are the things will stop me from buying it!
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: robiwan on March 20, 2007, 05:25:54 PM
Next to the Luke ROTJ the Yoda has the most distinct sound. Well, I hope Ultra can program in a pich on his new sound board to replicate Yoda's sound.  :-\
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: darthmaddy on March 20, 2007, 06:55:46 PM
I don't see why anyone would complain about any FFX being too light.  The only thing the weight is going to do is make your arms tired when dueling.  I wish every saber was as light as the Luke ROTJ or the first version of the Anakin ROTS.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Shadowlynx on March 20, 2007, 08:05:26 PM
Yes indeed, I can't wait to see the yoda fx by my door by the end of this week. It will make a fine addition to my fx collection.  ;)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: The Abbot on March 20, 2007, 09:59:31 PM
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!! still don`t have mone :(:(:( >:(
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Shadowlynx on March 20, 2007, 11:46:23 PM
well I guess that changed I just recevied a email from the postal service I'll getting mine by tomorrow. I can't wait, Man Master Kit Fisto, you should do some firing at the post office.  ;)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Louis on March 21, 2007, 01:11:43 AM
Incredible SLightSaber!;)
I guess I'll receive mine in a month;)

Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Mojo_LA on March 21, 2007, 02:00:36 AM
That's one of the reasons I love the OBi Wan saber so much - the weight!  It feels solid, like a real hunk of metal in your hand that does something.

Sure, I can understand wanting  a lighter saber for doing tricks and stunts, but for getting my money's worth and picking up a Saber that looks and feels real, you just have to have some weight to it!
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: The Abbot on March 21, 2007, 07:57:59 AM
well I guess that changed I just recevied a email from the postal service I'll getting mine by tomorrow. I can't wait, Man Master Kit Fisto, you should do some firing at the post office.  ;)

No its was not DHLs fault,I was given the Yoda by MR for helping them out with something.
But I had mis understood that I was going to get it right away.
God knows when I will get it,all I got from them was him telling me the order is in the system.. :(
Really messed my week up..

I have for the last 5 MR sabers made sure to find a way to get one right when they come out,no matter what..
People come to expect that force-fx.com will have a video review the day something comes out.
I have got a ton of email this week.

I wish I would have known I was not going to get mine right away so I could have made the necessary attempts to get a Yoda the day it dropped.. 


That's one of the reasons I love the OBi Wan saber so much - the weight!  It feels solid, like a real hunk of metal in your hand that does something.

Sure, I can understand wanting  a lighter saber for doing tricks and stunts, but for getting my money's worth and picking up a Saber that looks and feels real, you just have to have some weight to it!

Well if you had a real lightsaber the blade would just be light and weigh nothing.
So the lighter the saber the more realistic to the idea of a real lightsaber.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Darth Raijlin on March 21, 2007, 09:31:44 AM
Yes, and if you had a REAL lightsaber with the blade being made of light, hence being weightless, it would be more difficult to perform some of the saber spins and tricks that are done.

Considering some of the spins rely on centrifigul motion, which is aided by a "weight" further out from the center (the blade) of the focus of the rotation (your hand).    :D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: darthmaddy on March 21, 2007, 10:36:58 AM
I always explained the spinning of weightless blades as the Force in action. ;D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: WEDGE ANTILLES on March 21, 2007, 12:15:09 PM
the blade of the lightsaber encounters a certain amount of resistance from the air that it passes through as you swing it around the room, (like waving a paddle through water), so that would give it the "feel" of weight as you swing it around.

(I know that doesn't explain inertia but hey I tried)  :-\
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Darth Raijlin on March 21, 2007, 01:58:23 PM
Wedge, I honestly don't think you can compare the mass/weight of a paddle (something with substantial mass/weight) to that of a "light/laser" weapon (something with negligible mass/weight).  LOL...

That's comparing apples to oranges...LOL

I'm pretty confident that the amount of weight that would be caused by a lightsaber blade would be hardly anything.  But, I'll go to my Physics professor tomorrow and see what he thinks. 

Interesting to theorize however.

I personally think waving a flashlight around would be more comparable than a paddle in water.   :D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Vosk on March 21, 2007, 02:06:12 PM
By the way this is a tad off subject.... but I caught a video on YouTube saying someone suggesting that people leave the stickers on their FX sabers for "valueness" or something like that.  I mean seriously who here really leaves the stickers (the on and off stickers, and turn here to take out the battery one) on their FX sabers?

I for one certainly do not.  I think they look cheesy with the stickers on and depending on the saber they get in the way.  I bought the sabers to mess around with from time to time, not to resell later.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: BEN KENOBI on March 21, 2007, 03:24:55 PM
 8)I guess for people who forgot how to turn theirs on!!JK LoL!! :P
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: PLO KOON on March 21, 2007, 05:10:53 PM
Can someone please confirm that the saber weight is balanced, such that the blade is not heavier than the hilt itself (like the single sided Maul FX).
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on March 21, 2007, 05:29:57 PM
Can someone please confirm that the saber weight is balanced, such that the blade is not heavier than the hilt itself (like the single sided Maul FX).

The Yoda FX has a center point that is aproximately 1 and 1/4 inches from the emitter
or about 1/8 th from the Emitter shroud.

Most FX's are blade heavy to some extent.

I couldn't tell you about stock any more because mine are all converted except for the Yoda
but once the blade is emptied the pivot point usually moves down the hilt further.

(unless you add an absurdly long blade :D)

Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: robiwan on March 21, 2007, 05:43:52 PM
So, where are the pics of it dissasembled?  :)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Yoda on March 21, 2007, 06:06:00 PM
 :D :D

Not quite yet ;)

I have this one on display with my others... I will be picking upone from Sycor
for doing a conversion with it, but I am going to wait untill a nice aluminum adapter
is made for it so it can be switched between 1in and 3/4 blades etc...

I've got a lot on my plate right now so I'm not in a rush to rip mine apart just yet ;)
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: HAN SOLO on March 21, 2007, 09:25:23 PM
Mojo, according to MR, the Yoda has 73 LEDs, not the average 64. That is most likely as to why the blade is really bright.

Wedge, I honestly don't think you can compare the mass/weight of a paddle (something with substantial mass/weight) to that of a "light/laser" weapon (something with negligible mass/weight).  LOL...

That's comparing apples to oranges...LOL

I'm pretty confident that the amount of weight that would be caused by a lightsaber blade would be hardly anything.  But, I'll go to my Physics professor tomorrow and see what he thinks. 

Interesting to theorize however.

I personally think waving a flashlight around would be more comparable than a paddle in water.   :D

DV, if you access to the net when you speak with the prof and ask him about starwars.com's expanation:

"Lightsabers have changed little in the thousands of years of their employ by the Jedi Knights. Those who believe the Jedi order began on the ancient world of Ossus point to the abundance of Adegan crystals in the system as proof. These crystals are ideal for the creation of lightsabers, as they focus the energy released from a saber's power cell into the tight, blade-like beam. Early lightsabers did not have self-contained power cells, and were instead connected by a conducting cable to a belt-worn power pack.
Once unleashed, the power channels through a positively charged continuous energy lens at the center of the handle. The beam then arcs circumferentially back to a negatively charged high energy flux aperture. A superconductor transfers the power from the flux aperture to the power cell. As a result, a lightsaber only expends power when its blade cuts through something. So efficient is the blade, that it does not radiate heat unless it comes into contact with something."


It can be found here:

http://www.starwars.com/databank/technology/lightsaber/?id=eu

I've been trying to figure that one out for a few years now. I wonder if energy has any weight. I wonder if that's why when sabers strike, they bounce off easier and faster than if metal was hitting metal. However, that could be "the power of the Force, my friend."  ;D
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: zhuneycutt on March 22, 2007, 08:20:59 PM
just to be sure the Yoda is going to use 3 AAA bataries like the maul correct?

oh and btw i ordered mine from Starwars.com for 99.00 120 with standard shipping. They say it ships in march but march is quickly drawing to a close any thoughts?
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Shadowlynx on March 22, 2007, 08:24:20 PM
Yes in fact the battery pack is just like the maul's no different.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Gnosis on March 23, 2007, 12:47:53 AM
Mine just shipped today
Mind you I won't see it till I am done college
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: The Professor on March 24, 2007, 10:02:10 AM
I'm impressed...I thought the Yoda saber first off was plain, and just another green lightsaber that the great Jedi put together.  But from the looks of things this saber is much more than that.  I like it.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Jedi Tom on April 10, 2007, 08:18:30 PM
Nice review man that was cool
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Darth Nerdold on November 23, 2007, 07:19:56 PM
Is it AOTC or ROTS? Because Master Replicas' website says ROTS.
Title: Re: The FIRST YODA force-fx review by YODA
Post by: Super sith 22 on November 24, 2007, 04:34:59 PM
Is it AOTC or ROTS? Because Master Replicas' website says ROTS.

ROTS