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FX-Sabers Discussion - Including a Gallery of custom sabers. => Questions/Comments => Topic started by: The Abbot on July 09, 2005, 12:06:27 AM
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Man I just changed my battery's in my Anakin for the 1st time (had for 2 weeks)
OMG i forgot how bright it actually was..
Then I looked at my Mace and thought,dam I used cheap battery's in my Mace I wonder how much better it will look with energizer's....Well end of story it looks SOOOOOOOOOO much brighter with new energizers!! WAY BETTER!
I was a cheap b****** and 1st and got generic batters for the Mace (do not do this,you sell yourself short)
Well I'm going to have to film another video now,the week battery's did not do the force fx justice in the one I upped today.
Thanks to Meridian for this excellent pic and example!!
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.akaimpc.com%2Ffiles%2Fbattery.jpg&hash=b5cf5a4ce3fcb40aea24f0debdc71c3cc8c146d0)
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YES YES YES the mace windu definately benefits from Fresh BATTERIES.
I have one that is going to be a suprise for my son.
But I opened it to test it and first I put in some substandard batteries and it made the
blade all spotted looking but once I put in the heavy Duty DURACELL MAX It Lit up perfectly.
Very nice with new batteries. I bet all the 6cell blades are sensitive like that.
always
MERIDIAN
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"I put in some substandard batteries and it made the
blade all spotted looking but once I put in the heavy Duty DURACELL MAX It Lit up perfectly."
YUP!!
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Just an FYI, for those of you who think you may get even brighter luminosity if you get the ultra special Energizer titanium or lithium batteries, I would suggest you DON'T use them.
Master Replicas is specific about what kind of battery you are supposed to use with the Force FX: only akaline batteries. If you don't use akaline, you run the risk of damaging your Force FX, or severely shortening its lifespan.
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First time posting. Ordered myself a Darth Vader ESB FX saber... now, bout the batteries. I'll just have to say CR*P cause I bought Nickel Metal Hydride (NiMH) rechargeable batteries from Energizer for the Saber. Will those types of batteries spoil the saber like titanium or lithium batteries?
(I like this site a lot ;) )
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I wonder if anybody ever reads the instruction manual that came with their FX sabers. :) It tells the owner what kind of batteries the saber should take.
MR recommends non-rechargeable akaline batteries, like Duracell, Duracell Ultra, and Energizer Max. MR doesn't specifically recommend those brands, I only mentioned them because they are so well known and it's common knowledge that they are the best on the market.
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Just an FYI, for those of you who think you may get even brighter luminosity if you get the ultra special Energizer titanium or lithium batteries, I would suggest you DON'T use them.
Master Replicas is specific about what kind of battery you are supposed to use with the Force FX: only akaline batteries. If you don't use akaline, you run the risk of damaging your Force FX, or severely shortening its lifespan.
Wow Thank you very much thinicer very good information didn't know about that one ;D
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well my saber would arrive within next week...so a simple question....duracell or energizer? :)
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Going Duracell or Energizer is tantamount to choosing Pepsi or Coke. Just go with whichever you prefer, but I don't suggest drinking battery acid. :D
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Going Duracell or Energizer is tantamount to choosing Pepsi or Coke. Just go with whichever you prefer, but I don't suggest drinking battery acid.
And putting Pepsi or Coke into your saber isnt goo either :D
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Going Duracell or Energizer is tantamount to choosing Pepsi or Coke. Just go with whichever you prefer, but I don't suggest drinking battery acid. :D
What about none and you want sprite
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maybe some "lambrusco" wine could be better? and not in my lightsaber but in my largemouth :D
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I can confirm that good batteries can make all the difference. I had inferior batteries in my Vader ESB i switched them for Duracell Plus last night and i couldn't believe the difference, doubly bright and loud. I was impressed by it with the bad batteries in it now I'm ecstatic. Moral of the story buy the best alkalies you can find its a small price to pay for the increased performance.
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today i'm gonna buy a 24 pack of batteries!!!
;D if they have any
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Wow Eunice your a girl i was under the impression that it was all guys on this site. Nice to see girls getting into fx sabers as well. Makes me feel slightly less of a geek lol.
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hehehe... ;D
i think im the only girl at my school that likes star wars,
but i showed my friends pictures of the saber (that im gonna get)
and they want one too!
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dark side is so attractive uh? :D
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I formed my opinion on girls and fx sabers when i showed my sister my new Anakin ROTS, when i told her how much it cost she fell about laughing and called me a geek lol. ;D ;D
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hehehe ;D
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After being saddened by my blotchy blade from using NiMH batteries I went and got me some New Energizers and slapped em in my Luke ESB that I got yesterday and BLAMMO...no blotchiness!
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First time posting. Ordered myself a Darth Vader ESB FX saber... now, bout the batteries. I'll just have to say CR*P cause I bought Nickel Metal Hydride (NiMH) rechargeable batteries from Energizer for the Saber. Will those types of batteries spoil the saber like titanium or lithium batteries?
I wonder if anybody ever reads the instruction manual that came with their FX sabers. It tells the owner what kind of batteries the saber should take.
MR recommends non-rechargeable akaline batteries, like Duracell, Duracell Ultra, and Energizer Max. MR doesn't specifically recommend those brands, I only mentioned them because they are so well known and it's common knowledge that they are the best on the market.
(I like this site a lot ;) )
Hello There
It would appear this is aimed in my direction since I've mentioned ENERGIZER e TITANIUM batteries in
other threads as well as the Duracell MAX.
So let's clear things up shall we...
First- There is no such thing as a Titanium based battery, It is simply the "name" of Energizers Longest life
battery just like the Duracell Ultra or MAX.
Second- I've also discussed the point of rechargeable batteries having "only 1.2volts" compared to the
" Alkaline batteries having 1.5volts".
And I have already stated else where the rechargeables are not meant for use the FX Sabers
just as the manual points out.
Third- The comment about anybody reading the manual? Well I hope others do read it as well.
Of course I've read it, and fully endorse it.
Not only do I read manuals but I've written them for companies as well, and mostly
for the products I've designed.
Please understand I fully agree with you about Lithium,NIMH and even NICAD.
Most rechargeable batteries perform at sub standard levels unless they are properly
cared for which means they need to be condtioned to maintain there charge levels
by cycling them (charge and discharge over and over before using in a device).
And by the way lithiums have worked well in phones or other low drain devices,but in high
drain devices they most certainly have caused problems, even exploding.
I just want to make sure were all on the same page here when It comes to batteries
and other electrical advise about these FX products.
So we all agree that the we shold buy only the best most powerful Alkalines for our FXs in
order to assure proper and fun operation. ;D
always
MERIDIAN
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Hello there
I to am glad to see the girls into it.
As I've said before my wife wants one of the new ROTJ green sabers once
they are availabe.
And Since my son and I have our Blue and Red , I really have to make sure she gets her Green.
always
MERIDIAN
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i liked star wars ever since i was 7 ;D
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i liked star wars ever since i was 7 ;D
Oh, I got you beat I've liked star wars since I was four
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hahaha :D
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First- There is no such thing as a Titanium based battery, It is simply the "name" of Energizers Longest life
battery just like the Duracell Ultra or MAX.
Meridian, I stand corrected. You are right, those batteries are definitely alkaline. But, it DOES use a titanium compound; it's not just simply a codename. :)
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Hello there
That's wonderful to hear, and glad to have you on the boards.
Perhaps the other female Sith and Jedi will reveal them selves as well.
Or mabey they like the shroud of the unknown?
Lest we all not forget Gentlemen...
Anakin would never have become Darth Vader if
it wasn't for His love of Padme.
always
MERIDIAN
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Lest we all not forget Gentlemen...
Anakin would never have become Darth Vader if
it wasn't for His love of Padme.
always
MERIDIAN
So your saying women are the path to the dark side? ;)
I am using Rechargeable batteries, now I know I shouldn't, I will have to pick up some Alkaline batteries tommorow, I have a lot of people to impress with my saber at my 18th birthday party, so it will need to be in top condition!
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Yes that is what he is saying.
Women are the path to the Darkside!
....Every woman I know.... they are EEEEE-VIILLLLLLLLLLL!
okay, so I'm a little jaded.....just stay on my goodside ;) hee hee ;D
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Almost every war or beef in history have been over a Girl.
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So your saying that major conflicts like the world wars started over a girl. So Hitler stole Chamberlain's (British prime minister at the outbreak of WW2) bird and he said hey you outside now and thus began the bloodiest conflict in the history of man. I dont think so somehow.
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^No im talking about since the begining of history,some more recent wars have been a exception..
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^No im talking about since the begining of history,some more recent wars have been a exception..
examples??
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Dang, you guys got busy while I was away! I come back and there is all sorts of new stuff.
Thanx for the info on the batteries, I wasn't sure about mine or if I should look around the house for some. I guess I will go for some Energizers since they sell some at the store I work at.
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Also, "Heavy Duty" batteries are crap. They drain right away and quickly become useless. It may seem like a good deal when you're comparing prices with alkaline batteries, but it's really just a waste of money.
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After being saddened by my blotchy blade from using NiMH batteries I went and got me some New Energizers and slapped em in my Luke ESB that I got yesterday and BLAMMO...no blotchiness!
YES!! i had the same problem!! i use generic batteries becuase im cheap ;) ha i shall pick up a 24 pack and piss them away in about 2 weeks since i play with mine so much ;D
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Today I bought a 36 pack of DURACELL batteries from COSTCO ;D
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Hello There
A 36 pack you say? How much? :o
That's great, Did you get the ultra or max type?
in anycase a 36 pack probably saves you at least $10.00 total in the long run.
Good find Darth.
What type of saber did you say you had on order?
If it is a newer 3 battery type then those batteries should last you a good long
while. ;)
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MERIDIAN
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It was $11.39 (I checked the reciept ;D)
um... It just says DURACELL COPPERTOP
I ordered a Anakin RotS ;D
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Hello everyone
I just emailed Bigdog a picture to post in this forum.
It will show you how the blade of a Mace Windu looks
with Bad Batteries v/s Good Batteries.
That way everyone can get a real visual on the difference,
once they are loaded up.
(Images are on my personal Harddrive not a server and
need to be manually uploaded or I would have done it my self
but don't worry BD will get to it quickly I'm sure)
always
MERIDIAN
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Hello There
:o 36 batteries for $12.00 that's an incredible deal, Costco Huh? ;)
A great deal for sure, as long as they are new they should do well.
always
MERIDIAN
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36 batteries for 12$? that's a steal!
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good, can't wait to see the pics! ;D
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Meridian just submited this to show the difference good batterys can make..
(https://www.akaimpc.com/files/battery.jpg)
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Hello everyone
Thanks for the assistance with the Image Illbeats!
As you can all see the difference between a saber using
good or bad batteries can make a big difference in performance.
The Windu Blade was the best example of this for pictures.
always
MERIDIAN
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That's with all the sabers right or is it just with the Mace Windu?
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^^all the sabers.
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Yes battery power issues applies to all sabers!
I only used the Windu because it is easier to photograph
the spots as they show up as the different colors and not just
dark spots.
This contrast made the pictures better for the example so
everyone could see what we are actually experiencing.
Like the thread Says, don't skimp on the batteries!
always
MERIDIAN
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Wow, this means that all those people who ever complained about the Mace have a "blotchy" blade just need to go and get some new batteries!
Excellent stuff Meridian! ;D
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That's correct, be sure and get some good Duracell max for those 6 cell models.
Now you will still see that little bit of red along the edge of the foam strips but
it's clear in the picts how this is affected by the blade brightness which is affected
by the battery power.
always
MERIDIAN
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Thats great stuff! ;D
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New batteries = no more blotchiness?? Must get new (non-generic) batteries.... Thanks for the pics, Meridian!
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No problem everyone
as I am have extensive graphic and industrial design experienc
I will do what I can to help keep everyone as well informed as I
can about these and other similar products.
(with out stepping on any manufacturers toes of course)
always
MERIDIAN 8)
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As i have posted this in another topic but i feel it is very important and meridian advises that i post here also i will go into a little more detail about the problem i had.
i got my vader ANH 1 week ago. i put in some cheapo batteries and the saber was great no problems at all. I was showing my saber off to my brother and there seemed to be a dip in sound quality. so i changed the batteries
(same Cheapo ones) and my brother said he'd used the same ones i had in his TV remote and they were rubbish.
So when i read this topic yesterday i hurried along and got some new duracell plus. when i opened up the saber in one of the compartments there was a small amount of liquid, at first i thought it was condensation but after tasting i realised i was very wrong! it was battery acid. The other compartments seemed ok except for a small amount of white residue on the contacts. i cleaned it up and put in the duracell's. wow it was noticeably brighter and the movement sensors work on que almost every time (unless you make like a helicopter)
The moral of this story is "Dont skimp on batteries" and your saber will repay you instead of you repaying MR or target or whoever for a new saber.
Definately dont ignore the advice in this topic
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i recommend duracell and energizer
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yeah i have always preferred duracell
remember when they had them with that little strip on them that told you what charge was left. i haven't seen them like that for ages.
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yup
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I have tried different batteries and the ones I like the best are the Druacell MIAH 2300 rechargeable, I even called Master Replicas and they said that the only reason why they dont recommend them is the get stuck in the saber. I have had no problems with my ESB Vader that I got as a wedding present from my wife.
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As i have posted this in another topic but i feel it is very important and meridian advises that i post here also i will go into a little more detail about the problem i had.
i got my vader ANH 1 week ago. i put in some cheapo batteries and the saber was great no problems at all. I was showing my saber off to my brother and there seemed to be a dip in sound quality. so i changed the batteries
(same Cheapo ones) and my brother said he'd used the same ones i had in his TV remote and they were rubbish.
So when i read this topic yesterday i hurried along and got some new duracell plus. when i opened up the saber in one of the compartments there was a small amount of liquid, at first i thought it was condensation but after tasting i realised i was very wrong! it was battery acid. The other compartments seemed ok except for a small amount of white residue on the contacts. i cleaned it up and put in the duracell's. wow it was noticeably brighter and the movement sensors work on que almost every time (unless you make like a helicopter)
The moral of this story is "Dont skimp on batteries" and your saber will repay you instead of you repaying MR or target or whoever for a new saber.
Definately dont ignore the advice in this topic
Wow, just wonder if you didn't change them! You would have one bad lightsaber on your hands!
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tell me about it man
thats why its important people read and follow the advice.
i am also going to remove the batts when i am going away or not using it for a while.
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tell me about it man
thats why its important people read and follow the advice.
i am also going to remove the batts when i am going away or not using it for a while.
thats always a good idea :)
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when i opened up the saber in one of the compartments there was a small amount of liquid, at first i thought it was condensation but after tasting i realised i was very wrong! it was battery acid.
I hope that was a typo and you meant to type "testing"
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when i opened up the saber in one of the compartments there was a small amount of liquid, at first i thought it was condensation but after tasting i realised i was very wrong! it was battery acid.
I hope that was a typo and you meant to type "testing"
oh, you know how I love the taste of battery acid in the morning!
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mmmmm....but why does it BUUUUURRRRNNNNNNNNNNNN!!?!?!?!?!?!?
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oh, you know how I love the taste of battery acid in the morning!
loooooooooooooooooooool :D
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After reading this forum I have changed the batteries from my Duracell rechargeables to just Duracell coppertop bought 12 for 6.50 at walmart I couldnt find the Ultra or the M3 ones they did have the digital ultra but I think u use them for only cameras. But to much of a difference I notice the blotches on the Vader ESB when I look really close and the Anakin I dont notice any.
PS. For those of u who have the Anakin III does your saber sound like the speaker is blown. Mine works fine power up and down all the clasing sounds but when swung its sounds like a blown speaker any thoughts
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a little bit scratchy but not blown
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I brought mine into work today and I just swung it around it is a bit scracthy but over all sounds ok. I wish it made the pitch up and down like my Vader ESB
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Yes I agree it's loud like the way a teeeter gets distorted by bass.
but i dosen't sound quite broken, just over or under powered maybe.
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Exactly! ;D Whats happening is when the sound is amplified it gets scratchier. :) Another example is when you turn a speaker up to high.
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Yeah, fresh batteries are a must on these. I need some new ones as well.
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So it seems that Duracell coppertop works the best. Can u use the Ultra digital ones in these.
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The Duracell ones for the Digital Cameras I mean
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Yes, you can. As long as its a 1.5v per battery you are fine.
I have the Energizer E2 Lithium High-Drain Electronic batteries in my Luke and it works AWESOMELY!
..hhmmmm...is that even a word?...awesomely? ehh oh well hahahha
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Yes Both the Duracell "ULTRA" and Energizer "E2"
flat out work the best.
Hmmm mabey once we setup a shopping cart we
should sell batteries from here as well?
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I agree DURACELL!!!!!!
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Buggar - Have just read the bit about not using re-chargeable batteries - and I had just bought 8 rechargeable batteries and a battery charger off of ebay to use with my force-fx saber! Oh well, I'll find use for it, looks like Im going to have to go find some Duracell batteries off there as well.
I just don't want to look at my bank balance next month...
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Find them here online
http://www.batteriesandbutter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=MX1500AA&Category_Code=bt
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Just asking ... why aren't rechargeables recommended? will it damage the saber? (a logical explanation would be fine, not "because the manual says so") ... ???
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If you would read through the 6 pages of this thread
you will find the logocal in depth explanation regarding
the fact that...;)
RECHARGEABLES only put out 1.2 volts each.
ALKALINES put out 1.5 volts each.
I do suggest reading the thread in it's entierty as it will
most likely answer all your battery questions and concerns.
always
MERIDIAN
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Yup, I read all that. But I was referring to rechargeable ALKALINES. Surely they put out 1.5v doesn't it?
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Rechargeable Alkalines do indeed put out 1.5 volts, but they are a relatively new technology......I think. I would call MR and ask them if they are okay to use.
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From my understanding on those so called "rechargeable Alkalines"
each time you recharge them they loose some power and effectiveness.
This is mostly because they are being force charged!
The 1.5 they claim is only when new and it drops signifigantly,
EACH TIME YOU CHARGE THEM!
Sure Rayovac and a few others that are replacing them are being made
but as I've said and as MR manual states.
Recharegables are not up to the level they should be to be recommended
for the FX sabers.
USE THEM AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!!
If you really want to know more go ahead and check them out here.
http://store.sundancesolar.com/raybat.html
http://search.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/nsearch?catalog=sundancesolar&query=duracell+rechargeable&x=24&y=8
I CAN NOT RECOMMEND RECHARGEABLE AAs, Of Any Kind,
due to such power/voltage inconsistancies!
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ive never heard or rechargeable alkalines,but personally i wouldny recomment any rechargeable batteries
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Man, this topic just won't die! I thougt we went through everything! :D
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okay....so yall are saying Not to use rechargeable batteries??
ahhaha...just kidding
I still can't believe for the past 3 years of me using rechargeables that I have been missing out on the TRUE performance of my FX sabers. But now it is time to make up for lost fx time *runs outside and swings fx saber around like a mad sith*
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Until you hit something :D
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From my understanding on those so called "rechargeable Alkalines"
each time you recharge them they loose some power and effectiveness.
This is mostly because they are being force charged!
The 1.5 they claim is only when new and it drops signifigantly,
EACH TIME YOU CHARGE THEM!
Sure Rayovac and a few others that are replacing them are being made
but as I've said and as MR manual states.
Recharegables are not up to the level they should be to be recommended
for the FX sabers.
USE THEM AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!!
If you really want to know more go ahead and check them out here.
http://store.sundancesolar.com/raybat.html
http://search.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/nsearch?catalog=sundancesolar&query=duracell+rechargeable&x=24&y=8
I CAN NOT RECOMMEND RECHARGEABLE AAs, Of Any Kind,
due to such power/voltage inconsistancies!
Thanks for the explanation, Meridian. Still waiting for Vader ESB, will get Energizers as soon as it arrives in August.Can't wait to turn it on!
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Until you hit something :D
funny that you say that....
last night I got kinda crazy in my living room and took out a decorative chain pull hanging from the ceiling fan....doh!
no damage to my fx(not even a scratch), but the chain pull knob thingy....well, may it rest in pieces
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I am sure that I am not the only one who has spent alot of money on finding the right batteries for these toys. So far I have used the Duracell rechargable NIMH, Duracell coppertop and as of yesterday the Energizer E2 Titainium batteries. The rechargables worked ok but now I have batteries for my remotes and black light, the coppertop worked a little better but in my Anakin the hum of the saber was very low and produced a very cracky motion swing noise also I ntocied some bloches on the blade. I have found that the Energizer E2 and the Durcacell Ultra work the best. I have found that the E2 produced a great blade color, although some bloches were noticed when viewed up close and at an extreme angle but are normal in my ESB vader ,and a clear and very clean blade in my Anakin ROTS. The hum in both is very prominent and loud and the swing noise in the Anakin in very crisp. I recommend to anyone who is having problems with these saber go out get the E2 I paid 4.95 for a 8 pack at Walmart, and there are websites that have them very cheap. FX SABERS.COM ROCK
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last night I got kinda crazy in my living room and took out a decorative chain pull hanging from the ceiling fan....doh!
Thats funny! Same thing happened to me last night.. I cursed the xxx fan chain out last night, and I vowed to remove the fan and replace it with recessed lighting..
And I shall keep my vow too! >:(
;D
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hey guys, im at the airport right now,nd i bought a package of 36 Duracell aa batteries at 11$
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I'd hope they were the Duracell Ultra for Digital High Drain Devices.
They basically have more "mah"that's milliamphours.
I believe the difference last time I looked was the
ultra is at 1500mah and standar coppertops at 1000mah.
Those Energizer e2 titaniums are Just as good and even better
in some respect as some of our members have felt.
Yet the e2 tends to be more expensive, and not as common.
I have e2 in my mini EL sabers and FX Gen 3 Anakin and VADER
But the Mace runs on Duracell Ultras.
It all depends on which of these two batteries is available at the
time and on sale be cause they both work great.
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Recently there is this Panasonic OXYRIDE alkaline batteries which claim to last longer than normal alkalines for the same cost. It is also stated that the initial voltage is 1.7 (which i assume will drop to 1.5 in time).
http://www.panasonic.com/consumer_electronics/batteries/oxyride.asp
Will this high voltage damage any components in the lightsaber? Or will it actually make it perform better?
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Now there's a great question
A "SLIGHTLY" higher voltage usually won't hurt
most electronics and if any thing in the Sabers
case it could just make the blade a bit brighter.
And I do mean slightly
In any case think of the voltages like so...
The 3 cell models
1.5 x 3 Batteries = 4.5 volts
1.7 x 3 Batteries = 5.1 volts
the difference of .6 volts ::)
"relatively insignifigant"
The 6 cell models
1.5 x 6 Batteries = 9.0 volts
1.7 x 6 Batteries = 10.2 volts
the difference of 1.2 volts :o
"almost another full battery at 1.5 could be signifigant"
Or it just won't turn on. (In that case don't use them)
Hopefully they are voltage protected to some extent
with some sort of thermal shut down"FET" or simply
"RVP" Reverse Voltage Protection.
But I dont know what they are actually using inside
with out cracking open the LED blade insert base.
I would definately ask MR before using them
in either model.
And if you do ask them, Please tell us what they say.
and if you use the batteries tell us how they work.
Good luck ;)
always
MERIDIAN
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Hey guys,
I live in the UK and my mace saber should be with me within the next few days (excited!!!). Are Duracell plus the best batteries to use - they seem to be the best I can find in the UK.
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Hello There
Why yes Duracell Plus will work fine The Duracell Ultra
and The Energizer e2 seem to be a little better over all
than the Duracell But only the Energizer"e2"
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In any case think of the voltages like so...
The 3 cell models
1.5 x 3 Batteries = 4.5 volts
1.7 x 3 Batteries = 5.1 volts
the difference of .6 volts ::)
"relatively insignifigant"
The 6 cell models
1.5 x 6 Batteries = 9.0 volts
1.7 x 6 Batteries = 10.2 volts
the difference of 1.2 volts :o
"almost another full battery at 1.5 could be signifigant"
Besides, the Panasonic Oxyride Alkalines only have a temporary 1.7v. however, I'm not too keen on trying them out on my lightsaber till I get some answers. (who'd risk it?). I will give Energizer e2's a shot!
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question:
am i getting the full effect of my fx's by using 'regular' duracell?...or do the ultras provide more than just a longer duration?
thanx.
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When I switched from regular duracell to
duracell ultra in the mace windu, the blade
was noticeably brighter.
And Yes both types batteries were new.
It appears the 6 cells are more sensitive to voltage,
that's been my experience.
However to technically look at it...
The Duracell ultra is a 1500 milliamphour battery
The Duracell coppertop is a 1000 milliamphour battery
Typically a higher level of mah allows for a slightly
higher initial charge.
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;D thanx MERIDIAN.
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;D thanx MERIDIAN.
Most definitely! ;)
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Hi meridian
as posted earlier i have changed batteries to duracell plus for my ANH vader and it works great.
i have also recently ordered an ANI ROTS and wanted to use the best batteries possible. so shopping the other day i picked up a pack of energizer ultimate - see link
http://www.energizer.co.uk/en/ultimate/default.htm
Do you think these will be better than the duracell plus or should i get a pack of e2 see link
http://www.energizer.co.uk/en/e2_lithium/default.htm
what benefit if any do you think they will have over the ultimate as on the website it speaks mainly of long lasting power, whereas the ultimate is the most powerful alkaline.
Thanks as always for your help Meridian
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I have an idea how about Master Replicas makes their own batteries for these light sabers. That way we won't have to spend so much time and money on experimenting with batteries and see if one battery or the other is better. Sorry I am tired and cranky today LOL.
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Someone who has all the sabers, or most of them, should post a table that has a list of the sabers and the best batteries to use for them. ;D
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Hi meridian
as posted earlier i have changed batteries to duracell plus for my ANH vader and it works great.
i have also recently ordered an ANI ROTS and wanted to use the best batteries possible. so shopping the other day i picked up a pack of energizer ultimate - see link
http://www.energizer.co.uk/en/ultimate/default.htm
Do you think these will be better than the duracell plus or should i get a pack of e2 see link
http://www.energizer.co.uk/en/e2_lithium/default.htm
what benefit if any do you think they will have over the ultimate as on the website it speaks mainly of long lasting power, whereas the ultimate is the most powerful alkaline.
Thanks as always for your help Meridian
I have not yet used the Lithium based e2 Energizers.
I don't know if they would offer a strong benefit over the Titanium e2.
And they are signifigantly more expensive from what I've seen.
I may try them once my e2 titaniums run out ;)
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Just asking. Is it damaging to mix Duracell Ultras and Energizer E2's in an FX saber? It seems that Duracell is much cheaper than Energizers. Are the performance the same? If there is no difference, then might as well go for the Duracells.
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The energizer ultimates (the most powerfull alkaline energizer make) that i have in my anakin produce an awesome effect. the duracell ultras i have in my vader also produce a great effect. i bought a pack of 4 energizers for about £3.50 which is expensive but as my ani only takes three i will be getting another few packs over the coming weeks so i can use energizer ultimates in my ANH vader also. i definately would not mix two different types.(i think it says this in the instructions too).
Read the rest of this topic if you havenot already done so.
If you are still in doubt buy the most expensive you can afford, but defiantely Don't skimp on batterys!!
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DEFINITELY don't skimp on batteries! I took some rechargeables JUST to test the sabers in the shop to see that everything was working. So on the way back, I got some E2 Energizers.
With the rechargeable (fully charged alkalines) the glow was alright. The moment I changed to E2's... MAN!! There is a SIGNIFICANT difference ... well ... not so significant to those who don't care anyway...
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I wouldn't mix Energizer and Duracell any more than
I'd mix Synthetic oil with crude oil :D
The e2 by Energizer have different mah capacitites than
the duracell ultras.
It's better to run a "matched" set of batteries. ;)
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yea guys uhm i jus got my ANAKIN ROTS yesturday and i put fresh "Durcaell Coppertops" in it and it seems theres a slight dark spot in the middle of the blade. I dont know if its my saber thats the problem or the batteries. i saw the pic with the MACE saber but its not that bad. its jus like 3 lil dark spots.
they're not noticeable when you play with it or anything. but when you lay it down on a couch and walk back a few steps you can see it.
any thoughts?
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It's just hard for me to justify buying anything higher than Energizer Max. The e2's are just way to expensive. But compared to the Panasonic ones I bought at the Dollar Store I can tell an improvement.
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yea guys uhm i jus got my ANAKIN ROTS yesturday and i put fresh "Durcaell Coppertops" in it and it seems theres a slight dark spot in the middle of the blade. I dont know if its my saber thats the problem or the batteries. i saw the pic with the MACE saber but its not that bad. its jus like 3 lil dark spots.
they're not noticeable when you play with it or anything. but when you lay it down on a couch and walk back a few steps you can see it.
any thoughts?
That dark spot is where the 64 strings of LED's are connected, my Vader ESB has the same thing its just the way it was put together, and yes I did walk back and can notice it myself try the Titanium E2 it makes it less noticeable.
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yea guys uhm i jus got my ANAKIN ROTS yesturday and i put fresh "Durcaell Coppertops" in it and it seems theres a slight dark spot in the middle of the blade. I dont know if its my saber thats the problem or the batteries. i saw the pic with the MACE saber but its not that bad. its jus like 3 lil dark spots.
they're not noticeable when you play with it or anything. but when you lay it down on a couch and walk back a few steps you can see it.
any thoughts?
its only when 2 led wires connects nothing to worry abt ,every anakin rots has these dark spots
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Has anyone had any problems in addition to spotted lighting that resulted from low batteries? I noticed in my Ep 2 Anakin blade seemed to get a bit froggy and my newer vader saber also acts up (does not power up and down properly, odd noises) when the batteries are getting low. This is in addition to the spotted lights on the new vader saber.
Thanks
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Hello there and Welcome to the boards
I know that once the batteries start to die out the
Blade looks spotty and the power up and down doesn't
react as fast.
It's best to replace them so you don't cause any power
failure problems.
To low of juice makes any elect component work improperly ;)
always
MERIDIAN
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Has anyone had any problems in addition to spotted lighting that resulted from low batteries? I noticed in my Ep 2 Anakin blade seemed to get a bit froggy and my newer vader saber also acts up (does not power up and down properly, odd noises) when the batteries are getting low. This is in addition to the spotted lights on the new vader saber.
Thanks
Froggy? I might be missing something, but what would that be like? I haven't experienced anything wrong with my saber (Mace) from low batteries other than a very blotchy and pale blade. The thing that actually surprised me with mine was how the power up and down still worked well even though the blade was so weakly lit when it turned on.
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just to let you all know
energizer ultimates work great in both my sabers now
they are expensive at just under £4.00 for 4, but i got a pack of 8 on ebay for £2.99 so absolute bargain.
anyhow they have improved the brightness of my vader ANH no end (there was nothing wrong with it in the first place) it just looks more evil in the dark now.
my anakin has ultimates in it since new and i wont be swapping for any others.
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I'm using duracell ultra M3 (nearly 5€ for a 4-battery pack) and they are great! my 3 sabers are very brilliant
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yep,
according to the website and ebay the Energizer ultimate is the same as the duracell M3.
i'm really pleased with the performance of the batteries and my sabers.
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Meridian thanks for the warm welcome, much appreciated. Thanks for the information.
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I went and bought some Duracell M3 Ultra. I was using the Energizer E2 Titanium. I have found that even with fresh batteries, the E2 run out rather fast meaning you see blotches after about 3 weeks playing with the saber everyday for about 15 min each day, also I bought the Ultra at Walmart an 8 pack cost about 6.50 so I bought two and replaced both my Anakin III and Vader ESB, both sabers look bright and beautiful, and the motion sensors on both work perfectly with every swing. I am glad I found these cause after alot of research and testing with many kinds of batteries I think I finally found the best battery. Once my ROTJ LED arrives I know I am going out and buying these batteries. I thought some of you out there would share in this experience and the trial and error of these sabers
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energizer reckon that their ultimates have a longer life span than any other battery, obviously they will say this, does anyone else use energizer ultimates or am i on my own.
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I have looked for the Energizer ultimates but I cant find them. So far I have found the E2 Titanium Lithium and the Duracell Ultra M3 and Energizer Max
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try ebay i think the seller id is "saraceninternational". i have seen a buy one get one free for them in woolworths today, £3.49 for four so 8 batteries. not bad but still cheaper on ebay i think
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Remember I brought up the issue on Panasonic OXYRIDE batteries that give an initial voltage of 1.7?? Well, just yesterday I was at the mall and I read the small print of those batteries. It says to NOT use it in toys with bulbs... so that includes FX Sabers. (I was so close to buying those batteries)...
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Ok, my Ani ROTS should arrive in the next few days and I was planning on using Energizer Ultimate . I have read all 9 pages and they seem to be a good choice.
This might be a stupid question so please forgive me :-[ : I saw the pics of the Windu saber with old vs new batteries and was wondering if repeated use of old batteries damages the sabers.
I was thinking that playing with the sabers using old batteries again and again might put undue stress on the LEDs. Would this happen or would the batteries just die in time leaving no harmfull affects on the saber?
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I don't think that using near depleted batteries could do any damage in the shortterm but i wouldn't recommend using them for any length of time. All electronics are designed to operate on a steady uninterrupted power source, although there are safe guards in place to stop an erratic power source from causing damage. My advice when the sound begins to get weaker and the light dims replace the batteries.
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Sound advice Scottish Jedi but I was more wondering as to the cause of my Ani AOTC being so crap.
Other people have still got this saber and it still works fine but mine doesn't. Perhaps I should replace the batteries and give it a try again (when I bought it I may have scaved batteries from around the house :P).
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Definitely put the best quality batteries you can in it and you should see a marked improvement.
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I agree
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does any1 else find out thar duracell plus is much better than energizer max???
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i have used duracell max in my sabers. i am now using energizer ultimates, i wont be changing back. hope that helps.
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Good to se you back trexy :)
have used duracell max in my sabers. i am now using energizer ultimates, i wont be changing back. hope that helps.
I look forward to trying the difference when my Ani arrives. I know little about battery technology, however and probably wouldn't understand why there is a difference in the first place :-[
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nor do i understand the tech fox. but when i swapped them in both sabers ( i test fired both, a load of times with the old batteries in so i would be sure to notice a difference, then i switched and fired again). the difference was more recognisable in my Vader ANH than my ANI Rots but i think youll be surprised.
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I have three different types of Duracell's in my sabers (not mixed). Duracell Procell, Duracell Plus and Duracell Ultra M3, I also have some Energizer Ultra + to try in the future. To be honest there probably is a difference in the brightness in the sabers i just haven't noticed. I should really do some tests to try and figure out what works best but I'm lazy so i will just leave them how they are and replace batteries as they run out ;D.
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ther is a difference in the brightness but also in the quality of the sounds
Good to se you back trexy :)
Good to see u back 2 Dark fox ;)
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I bought batteries today in preparation for the big day. I couldn't find any Energizer Ultimates so I bought Duracell Ultra M3s instead.
Batteries: Check
Lightsaber: uh,uh
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I bought batteries today in preparation for the big day. I couldn't find any Energizer Ultimates so I bought Duracell Ultra M3s instead.
Batteries: Check
Lightsaber: uh,uh
You wont have any worries with those. Thats what I use and I cant see any blotchiness on my windu, the anakin is beaming and the vaders are menacingly bright. You will love ;D
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You wont have any worries with those. Thats what I use and I cant see any blotchiness on my windu, the anakin is beaming and the vaders are menacingly bright. You will love
Thanks FX padawan :). I'm excited already. I will still try and find some Energizers just to see if there really is a difference plus I'll need as many as I can get once my FX arrives!
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So far duracell ultras are the best
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So far duracell ultras are the best
For £3.50 for 4 they'd better be! ;)
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So far duracell ultras are the best
For £3.50 for 4 they'd better be! ;)
A case of quality over quantity :D
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A saying comes to mind "you cant get something for nothing". Duracell are expensive but in my opinion are the best. I would actually like to know what makes one battery better than another technology wise, now thats a fully loaded question ;D.
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Yeah I use Duracell's and I agree the quality can not be beat.
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Yeah I use Duracell's and I agree the quality can not be beat.
yea, the quality is a lot better than the energizers
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I thought this topic died a while ago
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I really like changing the old batteries with the new ones! I just replaced the drained-out duracell ultras from the vader esb and it just blows my mind to see how bright it is with fresh batteries!!
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i will be posting comparisation pics of my anakin with low battery , nd new batteries
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Hey Trexy make sure you show which batteries are with the saber
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Just some (pretty useless) information...
With drained out batteries, the Vader ESB performs better than the Anakin. The blade is not as bright, but it is still a solid colour. However, with the same batteries, the Anakin ROTS blade is extremely blotchy!
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Hey Trexy make sure you show which batteries are with the saber
off course ;)
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Excellant
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I have read the whole thing, but I still have a question.
Are the energizer e2 lithium's safe? because they are not alkaline.
I read that the Duracell Ultra Digital have 1500 mAh, and the Energizer e2 are 2900 mAh. If they were safe, that would be a huge improvement.
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I personally like the Duracell Ultra M3 I have not tried the lithium from Energizer, but I have spent way to much money on experimenting with the batteries. I have had them in both my ESB and ROTS sabers for about 3 weeks they both still look great and sound wonderful even after playing with them for about 1 hr average each day.
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Just a thought: I wouldn't consider lithiums dangerous, it's just that with 1.2v for each battery, it just won't make the saber perform to its full potential. So that can take the fun out of things...
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The 1500mah and 2900mah have nothing to do with power output. They will both have about the same voltage. The mah or milliamp hour rating of a battery tells you it's total capacity. One battery has a mah capacity of 1500 and one has 2900. The 1500 will give you just as much power as the 2900 but it will last about half as long.
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Well I will say this...
Eventhough those rules are "supposed" to apply I've always seen
batteries that are higher in capacity put out a "slightly" higher voltage.
So when you combine them they put out more over all.
A 1.5 volt battery right? Not so...
Ex: 8 Energizer "standard" batteries put about 11.5 - 12 volts into any of my transmitters.
If I swap them out for Energizer e2 Batteries I consistently get 12 volts and over.
The ability to "retain" more charging power goes hand in hand
with the ability to produce or discharge more power. ;)
always
MERIDIAN
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Well...From my experience in racing R/C cars with really hot battery packs the voltage stays consistent for longer through the discharge cycle and then dumps right at the end to being almost totally flat with the newer, better cells. The older style batteries with lower capacities seem to peak at around the same voltage but they kind of slowly drain off in a more linear way and gradually lose their punch over the whole run rather than being great through the whole run and dumping right after. Also, the better batteries, NIMH, Lithium Ion and such have much better reserves, as you mentioned, so they perform better under load than an alkaline. an alkaline starts out at 1.5v but when you put a strain on it it will quikly drop down to 1.1v or even lower but will climb back up gradually as it rests. The higher capacity but lower voltage(1.2v for AA rechargeables), modern formula batteries will keep on chugging at 1.2v through tremendous loads and then dump right at the end and go flat in a big way. That may be why you see higher voltages with your TX because those newer batteries have a deep well to draw from and hold the voltage at a better level for longer under load. But I'll bet when they go, they go big and fast....Batteries are almost an arcane science. A little bit technology and a little bit voodoo. They do so much to squeeze performance out of them in our digital world that some of the trade secrets are treated like a national security issue. Some work great in certain applications and totally suck in others. It doesn't always seem to matter whether you buy the best or not. Sometimes a cheap rayovac alkaline will work better in a certain application than an expensive next gen Lithium Ion. It's kind of a crap shoot sometimes and batteries also differ from batch to batch so you may get a great set one time and go back for more to find the next batch sucks. I guess everyone's real world experience is different because almost every device we use them in is different. I haven't found a way to talk myself into buying those expensive cells yet. I just go to Sam's club and buy the big packs of energizer AA's and when I see my performance starting to fall, I dump them into my kids' toys and drop some new ones into my equipment(read FX Saber) and everyone's happy. It's amazing how long a battery I consider unusable for my purposes will last and perform great in my kids' toys.
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Yes you'd be correct on that...
when the better energizer or duracell batts start to dump they dump off quicker.
How ever I find that they last longer when shut off for extended periods as well
so it is an interesting trade off. :-\
But they aren't that much more expensive for the extra brightness were talking
a dollar or two extra at best for an 8 pack ::)
Well to each his own ;)
always
MERIDIAN
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Hmmm....I tried to buy some of the next gen energizers at Sam's the other day(after reading up on them here) and it was like $20 for 16 cells. I can get 48 regular energizers for $16. Was I buying the wrong ones? What is the name of the cells your getting for only a couple bucks more?
Thanks!
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I just changed the batteries i took the pics.
will post them 2moro or after 2moro
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Hmmm....I tried to buy some of the next gen energizers at Sam's the other day(after reading up on them here) and it was like $20 for 16 cells. I can get 48 regular energizers for $16. Was I buying the wrong ones? What is the name of the cells your getting for only a couple bucks more?
Thanks!
Hey there; It's the "Energizer e2 titaniums" that I use or the "Duracell ultra for digital devices"
My Wife finds the good deal on batteries for me :D
I too feel Lithiums are way too expensive for what you'll get out of them.
always
MERIDIAN
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I agree that the Lithiums are way to expensive I have been using the Duracell Ultra M3 they work great but I am wondering if there is a difference between the Ultra M3 and the Ultra for digital devices any thoughts, I think they are about the same but I dont know
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Didn't take the whole battery issue seriously until i opened my second Anakin ROTS put a fresh set of Duracell M3's in it and compared it to my first Anakin ROTS which had 3 month old set of inferior Duracell's in it. The difference was unbelievable, i will be making sure i have fresh batteries in my sabers from now on.
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yea me too
i just put fresh batteries in my saber and its so bright now!
im sorry if this question was asked before but does DURACELL ULTRA make the saber look more brighter than regular DURACELLs or does it make the saber look regularly bright longer?
(does that question make sense??)
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I'm pretty sure it depends on how much you use your saber. I've read that if you keep it shut off for long periods of time, the Ultras last just as long as regular, but make the saber brighter. However, I have also heard that if you use your saber a lot (every day) then the Ultras tend not to last as long as regular. Still, I say the brightness is worth it. 8)
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Is it me or do batteries last longer and provide a brighter blade in the ESB Vader than the Anakin ROTS, it seems that the Anakin sucks the battery power out quicker
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Is it me or do batteries last longer and provide a brighter blade in the ESB Vader than the Anakin ROTS, it seems that the Anakin sucks the battery power out quicker
Same here I just put new bats in my anakin 5 days ago and its looking a little dull now
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I wonder why that is does the Anakin have more electronics that the Vader, does the blue blade require more juice than the red, these are things I need to know
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That's a good observation everyone, and on that point I'd
add that the Anakin has the most sound effects, so it could
very well be that it pulls a little more juice than the Vader.
Not to mention it's slightly louder than the Vader as well, so
these would all be attributed to using more power. ;)
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Thanks Meridian I even switch the batteries from my Vader to the Anakin and it seems to increase the brightness by a little, by that I mean I dont see the blotches I do when the juice is going out. The previous batteries I used in the Anakin I put into something else like a black light that I never use then I replace the batteries in the saber with those from the black light and the blade and sounds and better, I guess playing with it everyday does no good cause the juice runs out quicker, but I cant help it these things are so much fun ;D
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No problem :D
I know how it is... everytime I walk by them I turn them on just to hear it
even if I don't pick it up.
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I also got that plastic cleaner you recommended it works ok some scratches remain but it makes the blade look better, I guess after a few times cleaning it will get better but when you duel with them you are bond to get scratches on the blade.
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What kind of batteries do you guys use in your fx? I usually use energizer and it seems to work great.
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I use duracell ultras (m3). It is slightly cheaper than Energizer e2's and there is a bar where you can check the amount of charge in the battery...
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I tried those new e2's and against regular duracell's and don't notice much of a difference
A little bit brighter but not by much
Still, oh well I have the best for when Anakin and Luke get here
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I have noticed that the Duracell Ultra M3 work really good in the Vader ESB. The Anakin st
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Duracell M3's are the best Ive used so far, I would recommend them to anyone. Normally i wouldn't spend that amount of money on batteries but for my Sabers their worth it.
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i just use the regular duracell batteries and they work pretty good too
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I never really took the batterys that serious untill Meridan reminded me that rechargeables are only 1.2v a cell......doh!
Around this one horse town the best batterys you can get are the Energizer E2 so thats what I've been using for the last three weeks or so.
When I get a chance to pick up some top-of-the-line Duracells I'll buy those and try em out.
But like the thread says....don't skimp on batterys!
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I just bought energizer e2,
for some strange reason i cant find any Duracell ultra
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The duracell never seemed to work that great for me.
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I just bought energizer e2,
for some strange reason i cant find any Duracell ultra
Well Personally I like those e2s!!!
but if your looking for Duracells here they are on line for a great price
http://www.batteriesandbutter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=MX1500AA&Category_Code=bt
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Dude, heck with those D-cells! Use the Energizers, I personally (also) love them more, the saber just seems to glow brighter. And we all love that depressing little drum banging rabbit... ;D
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The battle rages on Duracell vs Energizer who knows, I don't, Ive tried both and cant really see a difference so i buy whichever brand is cheapest in the store I'm in.
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I dunno man, I have had several instances where Duracell's would rust open inside whatever I had them in. I have been using both kinds for years, the energizers just seem better, can't really put my finger on it, but they just are.
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I'd like to have seen a Star Wars Trailer with the energizer bunny
go rolling by right in between mace windu and jango fett at the Gonosis
battle scene! Then having everyone stop and look as he rolls off and twirls an
FX Lightsaber on his way out ;D
Hey I've been in Advertising for a long time so don't hold it against me... ::)
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I generally always have energizers on hand. Sam's club sells them super cheap. I just got 48 energizer max cells for under $16.
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I just bought energizer e2,
for some strange reason i cant find any Duracell ultra
Well Personally I like those e2s!!!
but if your looking for Duracells here they are on line for a great price
http://www.batteriesandbutter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=MX1500AA&Category_Code=bt
Thanx for the link,but ill pass because the shipping will cost a lot
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here are pics of my ani with fresh new energizer max
(https://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8241/dsc003448wo.th.jpg) (http://img191.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc003448wo.jpg)
(https://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8664/dsc003456bf.th.jpg) (http://img191.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc003456bf.jpg)
(https://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4931/dsc003469bi.th.jpg) (http://img191.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc003469bi.jpg)
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Wow...now thats bright.
I definately noticed the difference with my Vader when I switched to E2's.
My first thought was..."Now thats Red!"
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I'm going to have to try E2's there the only batteries i haven't tried so far.
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whoa that's really bright!
but i noticed that the cameras do that to the lightsabers because they're regularly blue and in some pictures they appear with a white core and blue outside
it would look so cool if it had a white core ;D
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I tried the E2 Lithium after I didnt like the titanium E2, I also bought the Duracell Ultra for digital devices. I must say that I was disappointed in the Lithium, fresh batteries still produced blotches in the blade and wasnt that loud in either my Anakin ROTS or Vader ESB. I then put in the Ultra wooooohoooo what a difference. The Ultra in my opinion produce the best effect the Vader is a nice red and you dont notice the 64 LED strung up the blade like I did when I put in the E2's. In the Anakin I found no blotches and the movement and the sound worked great and were louder than I thought it was going to be. I did use the M3 before but I found that they dont last that long, I went with the Ultra digital devices for longer power and performance, but I have a feeling that this debate was last a long time.
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I will be posting pics of my anakin rots with e2's when my energiner max juice is gone,
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my energizer ultimates are still going strong. need some more from ebay for when my luke arrives, i will post if i get a good deal on them to let others know.
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I just bought 6 Energizer Ultimate Lithiums apparently they are the best AA batteries in the world, horrendously expensive but i cant wait to see them in one of my sabers.
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smart scottish,
can you tell me where did you purchase and for how much?
yours
jack
ps off topic but has anyone else noted that these forums have started to have a few minor arguments in them, the mods are doing a great job of getting on top of the fools quickly, this is such a friendly helpfull place i dont want to see it degenerate into some mud flinging battle site like some places you find.
keep it cool
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Thank you Jack :D
Yes the mudslinging getts stopped quickly around here ;)
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I agree with you there jack, any disputes between members should be setled privately.
Here is a link to where i bought the batteries:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5807691891
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thanks for that. as i said before im really impressed with my energizer ultimates, surely the lithium just gives you a better lifespan. on the card it shows that their suitable for stereos and stuff like that where i think the lithium are intended for cameras etc. i suppose the use of your saber is more intermittent like a camera as opposed to a stereo which would be left on for extended periods of time. i may indulge.
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I'll add to that there Jack
the Saber is a High draw device and the LEDs are maxed out
in brightness along with the clash and motion sensors.
Though there is no hard drive spinning or anything.
So it's like the Digital Video Camera recording to flash chips
with a "High resoloution"Video screen on all the time ;)
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when my ultimates run out i will probably go for the e2 if i can get them in that deal. six needed for my ROTJ but its not due for a month yet so i have a little time to hunt around.
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When i was looking for batteries i was actually looking for e2's and i discovered that the Ultimate Lithiums last longer than e2's and cost a little more. I wanted the best so i went for the Ultimates but i will have to try the e2's at some point as well.
I can actually get batteries for free from my dad's work, unfortunately they are only Duracell Procell's which are Duracell's industrial buy in bulk battery, they are ok but cant touch M3's or e2's. They are free though so I'm getting some 9 volts for my custom sabers.
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i said earlier in this topic i think (its the longest topic and is getting far too long for any newcomers to read through seriously without damaging their eyes :o) :o that i had duracell coppertops and switced to ultimates, i realy could not believe the difference. as per the above if lithium/titanium just gives a better life expectancy not better brightness and volume than ultimates ill probably just stick with the alkaline ultimates i guess. need to see whats on offer. think i saw 8 (double 4 pack) special offer ultimates in woolworths the other day for less than a fiver.
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i just put enerizer e2's advanced in my anakin rots,
nd there is BIG difference between the energizer max,
the blade is MUCH brighter, it has less blotchiness, and i can barely see the dark spot on the middle of the blade!
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Yes the energizer max are not the best. go here http://www.energizer.co.uk/en/battery_products.html you can compare all the batteries outputs etc.
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Ok so here is a list for all new comers who read this thread. And it is in order of the best ones to buy.
1. Energizer E2 Titanium
2. Duracell Ultra M3 or for digital devices
3. Energizer Ultimate (for our european members)
4. Energizer Max
I am currently using Duracell for digital devices it does give a bright blade but doesnt really last that long, I might go back to E2 and Energizer Max for my sabers.
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U could add the duracell plus, they are still good
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We could put them at number 5 then
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and also state that to only use alkaline batteries
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Ok. So I might break it down like this in my sabers, use the Energizer max in the Luke and the E2 in the Anakin and Vader sabers. Or use the E2 in all three, which sounds better I think
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I just did some research into the battery saga and what costs more. I checked bestbuy.com walmart.com and walgreens.com. The E2 Energizer 8 pack and the Duracell Ultra M3 or for digital devices cost the same 7.99 for an pack. The Lithium do cost alot more I think 11.00 for a 4 pack. So it seems to me that the E2's are a good battery for the price which I am sure to get once I get paid this Friday
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Hello everyone...
Now for a wrench in the monkey works!
Well I know that when you have a house full of sabers batteries can get expensive!
So I was on a quest to find the BEST! cheaper high capacity bettry and here they are!
By Fuji Novell a SuperAlkaline 7300.
I've been testing them in my Anakin ROTS 3cells and MACE Windu 6cell and Now the
Luke ROTJ 6cell and I'll tell you... they are Just as bright and compareable to
the Energizer e2 and Duracell Ultra Digitals!
They are meant for long storage and High drain.
Go read about them here...
http://www.fujinovelbatteries.com/
Not to mention at $1.99 a four pack this price can't be beat!
Buy them Here...
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXH114&P=ML
Like I said I've tested them Against the others side by side for a week
and I'm very pleased with the results...
It's worth just trying a 4 pack if your curious!
I might even look in to carrying these in our Trade Federation store
always
MERIDIAN
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Really I always thought that Duracell and Energizer were the kings, thanks Meridian they are cheap and if they work just as good as the other two that's a steal, where did you buy them, I go to Walmart for my batteries and all I see is Duracell and Energizer. I cant believe that they are performing as good as the E2 or Ultra batteries I wonder why and what makes them special
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Excelent find MERIDIAN
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Well initial searches for the Fuji's Meridian mentioned in the UK have turned up nothing, i suppose i will have to keep looking.
Oh the future looks bright for us and out sabers though, i was watching the gadget show a few months back and apparently Panasonic have developed a battery using new technology which lasts seven times longer than the leading Lithium cell.
They can get 2 AA's to run a small electric car with a person in it for like 20 km, don't quote me on the distance though as its been a while since i seen the show.
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thats amazing if its correct. :o
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Well they had some footage from the trade show in Japan where Panasonic revealed the battery, they had two digital cameras set up, one using the new cells and one using standard alkalines to see just how many more images the new cells could take. They also had the electric car on the stage with the two cells in a compartment on top of it. So i think they are the real deal it just depends when they make there way over to the states and then over here.
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Hello there everyone
The price is better, because they don't advertise like energizer and duracell.
also use the links that I gave in the post to find them ;)
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Here is my break down of what batteries go with what sabers I am using my sabers as examples.
Anakin ROTS: Energizer Titanium of Lithium. I was using Duracell Ultra for Digital Devices, I put the fresh Lithiums man what an unbelievable difference, brighter blade or better motion sounds. Now I did borrow these from a neighbor I can't afford these, so Titaniums might be a better choice for those of you out there.
Vader ESB: Duracell Ultra M3 or for Digital Devices, Energizer Titanium or Lithium. I did the samething with the Vader Saber as I did the Anakin, both had the same kind of batteries and for the same amount of time, but the Vader still is going strong and I dont know why. Still have Duracell for Digital and it still produces a bright balde and great movement sounds right on q.
Luke ROTJ: Duracell Ultra same as above, Energizer Titanium of Lithium. I am going to try Energizer Titaniums on these cause I am starting to notice the blade not as bright and seeing more LED's which is what happens in the Vader when batteries start to go.
I did this to maybe help our newer members avoid paying for the experiment that happens with these sabers. I think Energizer is better for these sabers due to the high amount of power and electronics. These things need alot of juice to produce a great effect and maybe last long to. Remember if you start seeing blotches in the Anakin or more LEDs in the Vader of Luke saber its time to replace the batteries. The Duracell Ultra I used lasted maybe 3 weeks with about 1 hr of play everyday. But its up to the consumer to decide which is best for them. I say go for the Energizer E2 they cost as much as the Ultra's but seem to hold the voltage more and longer.
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Would someone do a comparsion picture wise to what a normal LED noticable spot looks like and a splotch on a blade looks like
Know what I mean
I mean what is normal and what is not exactly kosher
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I just recieved my ESB Vader saber yesterday bought some regular Duracell and it is not up to what i see in all the pics here. Guess I will try some better batteries.
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I just recieved my ESB Vader saber yesterday bought some regular Duracell and it is not up to what i see in all the pics here. Guess I will try some better batteries.
Mick from Snowtroopers.ca?
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thats me. I really hope that its just the batteries in mine they are brand new just bought them but you can see spots in the saber. I'm going to buy some better batteries today.
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thats me. I really hope that its just the batteries in mine they are brand new just bought them but you can see spots in the saber. I'm going to buy some better batteries today.
Welcome aboard :)
Of course, the Bird King of La Mancha must have a second home and this is it.
I recommend the E2's for the Vader ESB
Sometimes you can use regular batteries and it looks just fine
at least I have not noticed anything uber anyway
I use E2's and it looks better then with Regular duracells
However, my Anakin ROTS looks better with regular duracells then the E2's
Go figure huh?
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when I got it yesterday I just ran out and bought what i could find. I normally buy energizer but they didn't have any. I'll look for the e2's today.
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I definately recommend going thru this thread and you'll get some rather good information on batteries here.
You got yourself a fine first Saber :)
one of the best, if not the THE best of the Line so far
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I am using E2 Titanium in all three of my sabers. I bought two 8 packs for 6.49 which is not bad at all, the Luke, Anakin and Vader look great. Bold color and great sounds, my objective is not to play with them as much as so long they last.
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hey Mick welcome to the forums,
the best batteries are energizer e2's and duracell ultra,
but be sure tp take a look at this link that MERIDIAN found
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXH114&P=ML
these fuji's are very good batteries
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whatever you do guys DO NOT BUY the panasonic OXYRIDE batteries i tried them and they FRIED my saber,
after 2 days of perfect use, the 3rd day i go to light it up and NOTHING HAPPENS AT ALL
i put normal energizers in it and it will work for a little while and then shut off and i cant turn it back on till it "cools"
so do not under any circumstances buy those batteries or you'll be out of a hundred bucks, thank god i can still return it
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Since you guys really seem to be able to see the small differences in the brightness of the MR blade when different batteries are used I have a question for you. I am a little bit nervous about using the new high voltage e2s etc., and I would like to stick with regular alkaline batteries. Have you guys noticed any difference between brand name batteries like Duracel and Energizer compared to the highest quality genreic batteries like Rayovac maximum? I know some people will read this and say "Why don't you just compare the two?" The reason that I ask is that it seems that many of the guys that regularly post here seem to have a very good eye for subtle differences, and they are probably much more edjucated about this stuff. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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I've tried Energizer e2's and they don't give any problem... but I'm not sure about what you mean by "higher voltage".
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I've tried rayovacs and energizers...the bunny batteries seem a little brighter but they are both adequate.
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I use Energizers in every one of mine. But for more information I recommend the 'Don't skimp on batteries!!' thread here:
http://fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=897.0
A wealth of information, to say the least.
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I do believe this is the don't skimp on batteries thread... ;)
Perhaps the title got listed differently due to a thread merger... :D
Anyway, I think by now most everyone realizes that the fact that
there are individual LEDs that make up the blade length... You get "slight" spotting
no matter what Batteries you use... some batteries that are matched more closely
to each other in their power out put will make all the LEDs light to a similar consistency.
But we have learned that the "HIGH VOLTAGE" batteries are NOT TO BE USED because they
will conflict with the capacitors that regulate the amount of power allowed.
Stick with standard Energizer e2 or the Duracell Ultra and you'll be fine...
Or better yet use the cheaper Fuji Novel I've recommended in this thread as well ;)
always
MERIDIAN
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??? I guess they were merged then, well I'll say it even at the bottom of this thread: This is a good read for any battery questions! ;D
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Yes i merged a smaller battery thread in here.
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I have question about FX lightsaber batteries.
According to the explanatory, I should use 3 AA alkaline batteries.
My question is this - Can I use titanium batteries instead of Alkaline batteries?
Please answer to me.
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U should ONLY use ALKALINE Batteries,
the best are the eneregizer E2's or the duracell ultra,
if u want more information u could go to the Dont skimp on batterie topic,
it is really helpfull ;)
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I wonder... we need more info on these titanium ones.
I believe alkalines are recommended cause fx sabers need the 1.5v from alkalines. Lithiums only produce 1.2v for each battery, so it is not recommended for its low power...
now ... these titanium ones, my guess is that it is alright as long as they produce 1.5v per battery? Correct?
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Yes but FX sabers juices the batteries and alkaline's have much longer to give before the sabers looses their power.
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The Energizer Lithiums I use for the Anakin ROTS have 1.5 volts and are great
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as stated before i use the energizer "ultimates" they are the most powerful alkaline battery available. they are dearer than standard duracell and energizer batteries but cheaper than the e2. check these quotes from energizer website
RE-E2 "recommended for cameras"Capture the important moments in your life with Energizer e2 lithium batteries. They deliver long-lasting power to keep up with today’s high tech cameras and flash units.
Energizer e2 lithium batteries are available in all popular sizes. Our AA batteries, the world’s longest-lasting AA battery, last five times longer than ordinary alkaline batteries in high-drain devices like digital cameras. In flash units, they power three times more flashes with a consistent, quick 8-second recycle time.
Energizer e2 lithium AA batteries weigh about one-third less than ordinary batteries and operate well in extremely hot and cold temperatures, from -40 to + 60° C.
They include the most popular cell sizes - EL123, 223, 2CRS and CR2. We’ve also introduced the CRV-3 cell for today’s newest digital cameras.
RE - Ultimates
Introducing Energizer Ultimate – the most powerful battery in the Energizer brand alkaline family. Designed for consumers who demand the most from their battery-powered devices, Energizer Ultimate batteries perform up to 20% better than current Ultra+ in demanding devices*.
Energizer Ultimate batteries are ideal for those devices which are central to your day to day life, such as portable music systems and cameras. They are available in the five main battery sizes.
Choose Energizer Ultimate – Extra Energy when you need it most.
*versus Energizer Ultra+ AA, 2003 internal test
so if you dont mind spending the cash and use your saber daily i would say you are better off with the e2. however if you dont use it all the time go for the ultimates.
as said before my sabers both run of ultimates and i have seen the difference the batteries make compared with duracell ultra and energizer max / ultra+.
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I have found the following:
Anakin ROTS: E2 Lithium flat out work the best for this saber, glowing bright with no blotches even after a month or almost everyday play.
Vader ESB: I am also using E2 Lithium but I have used the Titanium and Duracell Ultra, but the Lithiums seem to work the best but the saber runs great on Titaiums.
Luke ROTJ: Duracell Ultra for digital devices. Lithiums are to expensive for me to put 6 in the saber, but the Ultras work great and are cheaper
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:)Greetings from the Netherlands. :)
*** THE DIFFERENCE OF ALKALINE AND NIMH ***
Hay guys, here something I wrote in another topic, but it's better in this one.
Maybe someone wrote something about this already, for that I'm sorry, but this topic is to big and my computer to slow, so it takes to long for me to read it completely.
I'm a 3D Photographer and I know that NIMH batteries give they're power faster than normal alkaline batteries. So for flash guns they are better. With fresh alkaline batteries my Metz flash gun recharts every 10 to 12 sec. with NIMH or Ni-Cd batteries in every 2 sec.
But with this lightsabers its the voltage thats important because the electronics makes higher power to light up all the LEDs (Just like a Tazer shockstick, it works with a 9 volt battery and make many thousands of volt with it with almost no Ampere, so you wont die from it) and NIMH batteries (with a voltage of 1.2 instead of 1.5) give 0.9 volt less than Alkaline when you use three batteries, 1.8 Volt less than alkaline when using six. So when the electronics multiplies the voltages let say (I don't know) 10 times, the 0.9 or 1.8 less voltage times 10 is a lot.
So, NIMH is very good for many things but definitely not for your FX lightsaber.
Your friend Darth Matth
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:)Greetings from the Netherlands. :)
*** THE DIFFERENCE OF ALKALINE AND NIMH ***
Hay guys, here something I wrote in another topic, but it's better in this one.
Maybe someone wrote something about this already, for that I'm sorry, but this topic is to big and my computer to slow, so it takes to long for me to read it completely.
I'm a 3D Photographer and I know that NIMH batteries give they're power faster than normal alkaline batteries. So for flash guns they are better. With fresh alkaline batteries my Metz flash gun recharts every 10 to 12 sec. with NIMH or Ni-Cd batteries in every 2 sec.
But with this lightsabers its the voltage thats important because the electronics makes higher power to light up all the LEDs (Just like a Tazer shockstick, it works with a 9 volt battery and make many thousands of volt with it with almost no Ampere, so you wont die from it) and NIMH batteries (with a voltage of 1.2 instead of 1.5) give 0.9 volt less than Alkaline when you use three batteries, 1.8 Volt less than alkaline when using six. So when the electronics multiplies the voltages let say (I don't know) 10 times, the 0.9 or 1.8 less voltage times 10 is a lot.
So, NIMH is very good for many things but definitely not for your FX lightsaber.
Your friend Darth Matth
Excellent! I tried to explain that somewhere else on these boards but couldn't get to the point and make it understandable like you did. Thanks!
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Don't mention, glad to help you for a changes.. You guys helped me a lot with your experiences. I still have to wait for my AniVad sabers.
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Yeah I had a scare last weekend, I was dueling with my Vader ep5 against my friends Luke EP6 when he stops and says "Dude look at your saber!"
I look at it and half of the LEDs have gone out and the others are acting weird and the sound is fuzzy. I was ready to flip out and cry because I was afraid I broke my baby.
But my other friend asks "When was the last time you changed the batteries?"
I paused and said "Not since I got the saber."
Well that could be it, so we quickly put in some new ones and BAM!!!!! Turned on and was brighter than ever. Phew..... that was close.
Now that we fixed it we continued to make our saber video that is three weeks in the making and so far is VERY funny with some of the crap we put on there. Maybe when we are finished with it I'll post some of it here so you all can laugh at it with us. ;)
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definately post it i would be interested to see it. my brother talked about doing one with me also, if he ever gets his lazy xxx in gear we will post it.
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I got a new Anakin and put duracell ultra m3s in it. It was really bright. I exchanged it because of a flaw and put energizer max batteries in ithe new one and now it seems a lot duller and slightly spotty. Would this be the Energizers or the sabre. (I'm going to buy more ultras, I just don't have any to try right now).
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Some blades are more spotted looking than others because of the focal clarity of the polycabonite tubbing.
In other words some Poly tubes appear slightly rippled and this makes for a spotty looking blade no matter what batteries you put in ::)
I have 3 Anakins and they all look slightly different and one is noticeably the worst of the 3.
So analyze the blade before you suspect the batteries.
But it never hurts to try the Duracell's if you likes the way they looked ;)
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I am certainly agreed with you there. I have found few ripples on my blade too and mine is Darth Vader's lightsaber.
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It is part of the manufacturing process for the Poly tubes
and is inherent of the thin walled tubes used by MR.
BUT It's not terrible yet could be better quality controlled ::)
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I'm confused about the energizer e3 batteries. People here seem to recommend them but from what
I read they're not Alkaline. Is this okay?
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It is part of the manufacturing process for the Poly tubes
and is inherent of the thin walled tubes used by MR.
BUT It's not terrible yet could be better quality controlled ::)
I find those ripples don't have much of the negative effects on the blade of my lightsaber that it still looks perfectly awesome.
I'm confused about the energizer e3 batteries. People here seem to recommend them but from what
I read they're not Alkaline. Is this okay?
It doesn't have to be Alkaline batteries for every FX lightsaber as long as those batteries are double A type then you are fine with them.
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I'm confused about the energizer e3 batteries. People here seem to recommend them but from what
I read they're not Alkaline. Is this okay?
It doesn't have to be Alkaline batteries for every FX lightsaber as long as those batteries are triple A type then you are fine with them. *Sorry for double-posting. I am just trying to help out someone here*
Actually, they have to be double A batteries. Alkaline batteries are recommended by MR, and the Energizer e2 batteries have been found by other members of the site to be superior to regular alkalines (and should be quite safe in your FX saber). The only things you should avoid are rechargeables and batteries that aren't meant for things with lights.
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Thanks for the input guys. I suppose it must be the voltage that matters because even though the energizer e3s are lithium I think they are still 1.5 volts.
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I'm confused about the energizer e3 batteries. People here seem to recommend them but from what
I read they're not Alkaline. Is this okay?
It doesn't have to be Alkaline batteries for every FX lightsaber as long as those batteries are triple A type then you are fine with them. *Sorry for double-posting. I am just trying to help out someone here*
Actually, they have to be double A batteries. Alkaline batteries are recommended by MR, and the Energizer e2 batteries have been found by other members of the site to be superior to regular alkalines (and should be quite safe in your FX saber). The only things you should avoid are rechargeables and batteries that aren't meant for things with lights.
Dude, look back my post. I have corrected it.
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Sorry about that. I guess you updated it while I was posting, so I didn't see that you had corrected it.
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Ok you guys are confused, The energizer E2's are ALKALINE
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Sorry about that, the way I've seen them described led me to believe that they weren't alkaline. I read up on them more and they really seem suilted for the sabers. I wish I hadn't bought energizer max batteries now. Anyone else notice that the duracell ultra m3 batteries only last about 2 hours in the sabers before they're almost done. Mine seem to die very quickly. I think i'll try the e2 batteries to compare.
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The E2's are great batteries.
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yes they are great batteries,
so are the duracell ultra,
I think that duracell have better preformance thn the energizer
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yes they are great batteries,
so are the duracell ultra,
I think that duracell have better preformance thn the energizer
Yes, I agreed with you there because Durcell tends to last longer than Energizer and still has the same performance as Energizer.
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yes they are great batteries,
so are the duracell ultra,
I think that duracell have better preformance thn the energizer
Yes, I agreed with you there because Durcell tends to last longer than Energizer and still has the same performance as Energizer.
Yes , they last longer but i fell that the sounds are sharper with the duracell ultras
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yes they are great batteries,
so are the duracell ultra,
I think that duracell have better preformance thn the energizer
Yes, I agreed with you there because Durcell tends to last longer than Energizer and still has the same performance as Energizer.
Yes , they last longer but i fell that the sounds are sharper with the duracell ultras
So do that means good or bad?
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yes they are great batteries,
so are the duracell ultra,
I think that duracell have better preformance thn the energizer
Yes, I agreed with you there because Durcell tends to last longer than Energizer and still has the same performance as Energizer.
Yes , they last longer but i fell that the sounds are sharper with the duracell ultras
So do that means good or bad?
that means GOOD
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Thats pretty crazy how much the saber changed with new batteries. And ill be sure to always keep new batts in my sabers.
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Just got some energizer e2s and put them in my Anakin. More vibrant blue than energizer max. It looks about the same as the duracell ultra m3 to me. Hopefully these last longer than the duracells did.
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Yes, I've had my energizer E2's in for about 40 minutes of usage now, and it's showing no sign of wearing down.... at all.
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Yes, I've had my energizer E2's in for about 40 minutes of usage now, and it's showing no sign of wearing down.... at all.
i think they will last 19 hours usage :D
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And the E2's cost just as much as the Duracell Ultra. I use E2 Lithium for the Vader ESB and Anakin ROTS, for the Luke ROTJ I use the Titanium. Right now I have Ultra in the Luke but its showing signs of losing it's power blotches not as quick power up, so getting some freah batteries.
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What are the best brand/type of batteries for the new Luke ROTJ LED? Also how many do I need?
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read up.. it says on the first post I beleive.,
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I use E2 titanium and you need 6
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K thanks man. I will be on the look out for those batteries.
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here in the uk its easy to get hold of decent alkalines but the lithium and titanium are harder to come by
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Greetings from The Netherlands
Can someone help me.
Here in Holland I pay 9,95 Euro's for 2 Energizer E2 batteries, and 6,95 Euro's for 4 Duracell Ultra M3
I call that stealling.
Does anyone know where I can get the better Energizer E2 batteries much cheaper, or better do, where can I buy the Fuji Novell 7300.
They are three times better and in America 2,95 dollar for 4.
HEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLP!!!!!
Your friend Darth Matth
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Haha same thing here man,
2 energizer e2's for $8 and $5 for 4!
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E2 Lithium are about 8 bucks for 4.
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We're having a sale over here right now
I scored 4 for E2's for 4.97 yesterday
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wow this topic just keeps going and going!!!!!
I reckon that good deals can be found on batteries from ebay. just check regularly and always look at feedback prior to bidding, it also helps if the seller has a quantity of batteries for sale, that you check to see recent feedback from customers who have bought the same item.
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Thank you, I'll do that.
The thing is, extra shipment costs, but I have to buy a large amount of batteries and the price finally will be good.
Your friend Darth Matth
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I was wondering if these batteries are the same Fuji batteries Meridien was talking about just in a bigger pack
4pack link Meridien gave us http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXH114&P=ML
48-pack what i found http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFZX3&P=
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Yes they are...
If u order them plz give us feedback,
thank u
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meridien said they worked great and they are cheap imma order the big pack and let you guys know but that wont be till after christmas it sucks having to wait till christmas for my 2 sabers
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I do believe this tpoic is the first to 20 pages :o, Congratulations FX-sabers.com
if its not i am sorry, but whoopeee anyway :) :)
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U are right this is the first topic with 20 pages!!!!
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It's been a very useful topic so it's nice to be informed
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Yay i was the first post on the 20th page yaaaaaaaaaay.........do i win something? lol ;)
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You won an FX-Sabers.com "No-Prize"! :)
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You won an FX-Sabers.com "No-Prize"! :)
Man......I was hoping for a "No-prize" . I never win anything.
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Let us all congratulate you so this topic can go to 25 pages.
HaHaHa
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I have always wondered how topic like this can have 20 pages, but now I know. ;D
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hello to all guys, and sorry my english
sorry if the argument is old but I dont have the time to read all the 2x pages of this thread :-)
my two cents: I'm using three rechargeable Duracell 1.2v 2300mA and my Vader V Sabre works like 3 fresh super-costly (here) alkaline batteires.
The blade is very bright and I dont see any dark area (except for a couple of darker spot inside the blade, xxx...)
I used these ones for a week, the sabre is very responsive and apparently is not damaged, the infamous clash sound do not require to break the blade onto a table and reacts with less impact.
The only drawback is the lifespan, shorter (3/4 to 1/2) of a set of new alkaline batteries, but they are sells for 200 charges...
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MMM I would still use batteries like Duracell Ultra M3, Energizer E2 Titanium or Lithium I have found that the Vader ESB and Anakin ROTS work the best with the Lithium batteries, now for those 6 pack sabers I would use the Duracell Ultra for digital devices or the Ultra M3, and that is after alot of experimenting and money lol
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I agree, my choice it's only money-based ... here 8 "standard" duracell alkaline batteries costs 8€ (10$ approx.), unfortunately any rechargeable under 2000 mA (I tryied the 1800mA used in a r/c car receiver) is too weak for the blade
I wonder why the sabre works fine with these cells at 3.6v (3x1.2v) in place of 4.5v, I dont have a good knowledge of electronics so ... for the experts : this can damage the sabre in long term or it's fine?
(sorry if the question was already made from something else)
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Man I just changed my battery's in my Anakin for the 1st time (had for 2 weeks)
OMG i forgot how bright it actually was..
Then I looked at my Mace and thought,dam I used cheap battery's in my Mace I wonder how much better it will look with energizer's....Well end of story it looks SOOOOOOOOOO much brighter with new energizers!! WAY BETTER!
I was a cheap b****** and 1st and got generic batters for the Mace (do not do this,you sell yourself short)
Well I'm going to have to film another video now,the week battery's did not do the force fx justice in the one I upped today.
Thanks to Meridian for this excellent pic and example!!
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.akaimpc.com%2Ffiles%2Fbattery.jpg&hash=b5cf5a4ce3fcb40aea24f0debdc71c3cc8c146d0)
Thank you, I'll keep this in mind... I better check my Vader when I get home tonight. ;D
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I went out and looked for Energizer E2's and he's right they are really expensive here in Holland.
The cheapest i could find where € 8.95 ($ 10.47) for 2!
I found some on Ebay 12 E2's for 4.99 GBP (€ 7.36 or $ 8.61).
I bought a set and totally forgot about shipping charges from Hong Kong which are 13 GBP (€19.18 or $ 22.46).
Which makes the total price € 26.54 ($ 31.06), € 2.21 ($ 2.59) per battery, still better compared to what we pay here.
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Don't know if anyone knows this but if you have a Big Lots store near you they carry the Fuji Novel batteries.I was in one tonight and they carry the 4 packs for $1.49.
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SO that's why my mace suddenly appears with dark spots.... I'll have to try your tip on using the kind of batteries for the FX Mace, I want to see for myself the difference.
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just received my E2's, they are much better than the Duracell Ultra M3 i used before.
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hey! I've posted a couple of comments for Master Yoda but my post seems to be annihilated in hyperspace... troubles with the forum engine?
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I bought a pack of RadioShack Enercell Alkaline Batteries a day before my FX came, and it seemed VERY bright to me. Has anybody ever used them before?
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I just saw, in a normal supermarket near my house, a pack of 8 generic Alkaline batteries for just 2.50 $
Is that too suspicious? Will they be sub-standard and not desirable for use with FFX?
The price is tempting...
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try them , but doesnt sound like good quality
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I might try them..
Besides that: Is there much difference in quality between Duracell and Duracell Plus?
I'm currently using Duracell (not plus).
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well there is a small difference,but you can see a difference when using duracell ultra
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shots are cool but frankly I never see my Mace "unspotted" whatever batteries I'm using :(
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yes mine is slightly blotchy with the red diffuser, though i have never seen it look anything like as poor as some of the pics of the AOTC versions with poor batteries(i think they are earlier in this thread).
the newer the batteries the better it looks, but you cant keep renewing batteries after every five minutes of play. its a shame rechargeables are not 1.5v and as powerful as M3 or E2 / ultimates etc.
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its a shame rechargeables are not 1.5v
friend, once for all .... I'm really tired about the urban legend on the undervoltage ...
fact 1: straight from Mace manual "9 - Rechargeables batteries are to be removed before being recharged" using a couple of neurons anyone can think "wow so I CAN use rechargeables";
fact 2: undevoltaging can do nothing, and any alkaline go "undervoltaged" after half an hour of use (so, in long run any alkaline can destroy your blade?), half my home is powered by rechargeables without any problem for years;
fact 3: some alkaline (like oxyrides) peaks at 1.7v, THIS can damage the sabre, the more not the less;
fact 4: MR do not endorse rechargeables ... ok they are not endorsing also dueling and using the sabre in the dark (AHAHAHAH c'mon....)
fact 5: some (costly) rechargeables outputs 2500mA vs the mere 1000/1200 mA of any standard alkaline;
that's to stop (I hope..) the "youre mad if you are using rechargeables" usual reply
aside my personal opinion personally I dont see this dramatic difference between, for example, plus and ultras, with 6 fresh ultras my windu is ALWAYS spotted, it's brighter ok but 4x5$ or 8x5$ ... to me the difference do not worth the price
I dont want to start a flame so... all of you ... be friendly (but not childish...)
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ok,
the reason i said about the use of re-charegables is because the ones i have seen in the UK are only 1.2volt. the batteries i use in my sabers are energizer ultimates, if you read the technical garb on the website and packaging for the expensive batteries, they give out more energy for longer periods of time than standard alkalines, therefore if you are correct in saying that a 1.5 volt alkaline will be discharged after use, so will a 1.2volt rechargeable. the more time you have with a brighter blade the better. nowhere in the manuals do MR say that rechargeables should not be used, only that they should not be mixed with normal batteries.
have a look at page 1 of this thread to see the difference that poor batteries make. the fact that oxyride batteries can over-power the electronics is not good and i think this has been dealt with before.
there is no problems with using rechargeables but it is a fact that the better the batteries the brighter the blade, ( i have put ultras in my sabers and then swapped for energizer ultimates, the difference IMO is marked. people can use whatever batteries they like, i get the best performance from my energizers and will never use another kind in them. this matter has been discussed at length before hence the 20odd pages of this thread.
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there is no problems with using rechargeables but it is a fact that the better the batteries the brighter the blade
I never said rechargeables are better and brighter (hey they are all at 1.2v)
and isnt my intention to want everyone use these ones (in fact I'm actually using Plus and Ultras).
I'm only tired to read rechargeables can destroy the inner electronic, not only in this thread
a newbie/younger can be (wrongly) impressed
IMO
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PS for Han Solo
my post wasn't directed to you,
I'm sorry, just your post remembered to me some Universal Truth explained by someone else around here...
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no problems man, this topic just keeps going and going. its so long, i doubt anyone will read it all the way through now.
if people read the manuals properly, like you say they will realise that rechargeables can be used.
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no problems man, this topic just keeps going and going.
yep :) and frankly reading all these opinions it's funny but now I'm a little confused (ok...I've contributed to confusion)
ultras, ultimate, mr.fusion .... argh ... anyway ... if you find a battery capable to unspot this xxx mace let me know pls....
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I can't believe there are so many kinds of Duracell batteries!
I'm currently using Duracell (just Duracell, not plus, not ultra) on my Luke ROTJ LED saber. Looks cool to me.
This evening I bought a pack of Duracell Plus.
Now I read there are Duracell Ultra too!
Ok, I don't know much about batteries, and I don't seem to find any place in the web that explains the difference between normal, plus and ultra, so my guess is this: Duracell Ultra better than Duracell Plus, and Duracell Plus better than normal Duracell?
I'd love to see a site that explains the actual differences between them though.
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Has anyone still noticed an issue where they can still very faintly see the LED track on their Ani ROTS in the DARK. I'm using brand new Energizer E2's and I can still faintly see it down the one side, including the famous dark spot!
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Has anyone still noticed an issue where they can still very faintly see the LED track on their Ani ROTS in the DARK. I'm using brand new Energizer E2's and I can still faintly see it down the one side, including the famous dark spot!
I think it's normal to see the way you see. At least I can notice dark spots in all sabers with fresh batteries if looked closely. Those doesn't bother me much. :)
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I can see the led sequence in all my sabers now that I know what they look like. When I first got them I didn't notice it. I think it's that your mind concentrates on them once you know how they look, and after you start studying the sabers for flaws.
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And Remember everyone DON'T USE THOSE BATTERIES in products with LIGHTS!
I was reading Yoda's other thread "Bad Batteries" and he said not to use batteries in products with lights. What does that mean?
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And Remember everyone DON'T USE THOSE BATTERIES in products with LIGHTS!
I was reading Yoda's other thread "Bad Batteries" and he said not to use batteries in products with lights. What does that mean?
In that thread, he just says that you shouldn't use OXYRIDE batteries with FFX sabers (because they can damage the sabers), or with any other device that has lights.
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I'm not familiar with oxyride batteries. Are there lights on the batteries themselves?
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oxyrides are Panasonic batteries, the "top" after Panasonic Xtreme
they outputs more than 1.5v and are suitable for mp3 players and digital cameras
(I'm reading the spot on the rear of the Xtreme 12-cells box :) )
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mmm are these worth it guys ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/100-DURACELL-PLUS-AA-or-AAA-BATTERIES_W0QQitemZ5851379198QQcategoryZ48447QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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mmmmm so where do duracell procell fit into all this please ?
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thanks to this thread --> I just spent $60 on batteries. :-\
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ps: another point that may or may mot have been raised (I didn't read the whole thread), is that you should never leave the batteries in the saber for more than about 6 months at a time, even if you don't use it very much (especially if you don't use it much :p lol). I had a Hasbro saber with 3AA's in it since last May, and the other day I opened it to change batteries for my kids only to find that one of the Duracells had cracked open and leaked acid/salt into the battery compartment of the saber (the one that cracked said "use by 2012" on the side; it was relatively 'new', and was only puchased about 8 months ago). and now, even with fresh batteries, the toy doesn't work at all anymore because the contacts are so badly eroded. its burnt. toast. history.
if you're like me, you'll want to mark a date on the calendar and change-out the batteries in ALL your FX sabers ~once every six months, like clockwork, whether they need it or not.
also NEVER mix and match old batteries with new ones. this will cause the older ones to crack and leak as soon as they run "dry" (in comparison to the newer ones)
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and the other day I opened it to change batteries for my kids only to find that one of the Duracells had cracked
wow Duracell usually are safe ... hot in your country?
and AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH
anotehr kind of cell ... I'm going crazy ... here there is a big discount (8 for the price of 4)
on Energizer Ultimate ... but aside I noticed Energizer Ultra+ argh, what's the best?
I've tryied only Duracell until now :-(
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I've given up my quest for the ultimate battery. I really wanted to see what Energizer Lithiums would do in my Anakin RotS, so I went ahead and bought them ($5 a PIECE). The blade is brighter (it actually hurts my eyes), but these batteries just cost too frikkin' much! I would have to spend more than $30 to use Lithiums in my Luke RotJ!!!
I sure hope these batteries will last 7x longer as they pretend they do. The next ones will probably be Energizer Ultimates (E2's don't exist over here).
Most people think there's something wrong with their saber(s) when they compare them to pictures taken from other people's sabers (with the white core effect), which is never going to happen with the current generation.
Anyway, it's just impossible to compare brightness over the internet. Pictures change dramatically with even the slightest change of camera settings and one person's "dim as JarJar" is another person's "bright as Palpatine".
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if its that bright.. is there any chance of burning out an LED with these Lithiums?
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Anyway, it's just impossible to compare brightness over the internet. Pictures change dramatically with even the slightest change of camera settings and one person's "dim as JarJar" is another person's "bright as Palpatine"
I agree, anyway .. so bright?!?!? I want to see a comparison shot from lithium and alkaline if you have
a couple of similar sabres to put in same shot, please!!!
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Lithiums produce the same voltage as alkalines, so they should be safe.
I only have those new lithiums and some slightly used Duracell Ultra M3's, so comparison would be a bit biased.
Tomorrow I'll take some pictures with the exact same camera settings.
It also seems to be brighter when firing it up than after 2 minutes. Maybe the lithiums need some time to recover (like they would in digital cameras)
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So lithiums should be safe?
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my only experience is with my office "desktop rover", it requires two alkaline, I putted in two lithium a year ago and woah! is running again, they seems to have a (very) longer life than alkalines
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I sure hope so, expensive little buggers!
Here are the pictures I promised:
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusers.telenet.be%2Fmanji%2Fmisc%2Flightsabers%2Falkaline.jpg&hash=3a4193bb8f6a7a73f9925adf6425c3a3f715c3f1)
alkalines (Duracell Ultra M3) (slightly used)
(https://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusers.telenet.be%2Fmanji%2Fmisc%2Flightsabers%2Flithium.jpg&hash=70c42e3f82794b78b62a76446fefe90f4b1f061a)
lithiums (Energizer Ultimate Lithium) (new)
As you can('t) see, the difference is minimal. I must admit that the lithiums seem to blind me a bit more than the alkalines, but that could be explained psychologically as well.
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It's really hard to tell the difference, but when you'll look at the very beginning of the upper saber's blade, you may notice that it's just a bit darker in the pic when compared to the lower one. I'm not sure whether it's a shadow. Nice pictures by the way. ;)
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I think I have a bad LED there, but since I wouldn't know what that would look like, I'm not really sure. :)
It's actually more visible on pictures than in real life.
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cool!! the upper half blade is clearly brighter (for me)
let us know what longer last these lithium ... maybe they worth the price
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I find the lithiums brighter
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So lithiums are safe to use then?
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yes no problems
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So lithiums are safe? Doesn't MR say not to use them? Or am I mistaken? BTW, those pics look great. I can really tell the difference. Too bad all I have are those cheap Kirlkland Signature batteries from Costco. Are those ok?
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Yeah they both look the same
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? pay attention to half-end of the blade, the lower has a white core the upper is more "merged" with blue
... but he says the alkaline cells aren't at full charge ....
I'm interested only if they have a very longer life (considering the price...)
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Yesterday my Vader ESB was going nuts. :o It kept powering on and off and the blade only glowed a dull color. I had Duracell Ultras in it and changed it into fresh ones and it worked fine. Is that what happens when the battery runs out?
(this is probably out of the subject)
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Yesterday my Vader ESB was going nuts. :o It kept powering on and off and the blade only glowed a dull color. I had Duracell Ultras in it and changed it into fresh ones and it worked fine. Is that what happens when the battery runs out?
(this is probably out of the subject)
:D :D this is off topic, but this is not because of the batteried the switch wasnt fully pushed upwards to turn the saber , it was between off and on
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I swear I had the switch all the way but oh well I chucked those batteries. Anyways back to lithiums, so are they another form of alkaline?
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So lithiums are safe? Doesn't MR say not to use them? Or am I mistaken? BTW, those pics look great. I can really tell the difference. Too bad all I have are those cheap Kirlkland Signature batteries from Costco. Are those ok?
Yes, the cheapo batteries are fine, but you should opt for the higher end batteries if you can. They make the saber look better longer, which can only be a good thing. :)
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the cheapo batteries are fine, but you should opt for the higher end batteries if you can
I tryied economic (here) Panasonic Xtreme, the sabre looks very nice ... for ten minutes ;D
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i really would refrain from using cheapo batteries, i had some in my first vader ANH and i checked within the first week, there was battery acid leaking inside. its not worth risking your saber for the sake of a few pounds/dollars trust me.
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its not worth risking your saber for the sake of a few pounds/dollars trust me
and it's a wrong economy because they have a sooo short lifespan :-(
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precisely GIo
i cant believe people keep bleating on about the prices of batteries, there are deals out there, for instance energizer ultimates that i use, usuall sell for £3.99 for 4 the cheapest i have seen these is £3.19 at ASDA in the UK (they are owned by walmart BTW) they currently have 8 packs on sale for the price £3.99.
excellent god quality batteries. when you have four sabers like me, it gets far to much for lithiums as the price of those here are £7.00 for two this would cost me £60.00 for my sabers to all be lithium. i can buy a new saber for that at the moment.
just use the best quality energizers or duracells, and you will have a reliable amazing saber.
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hey! same as here!!! it's a gift, 4+4(free) Ultimate for 5€,
I bought 4 packs :D
the 12 panasonic costs the same but they are LAMEEEEE
(especially in the Mace)
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No wonder my blade has so many spots on it whenever I turn on it. I guess I must have got bad batteries for my lightsaber. Not to mention, I use Enegizer Akaline batteries for my lightsaber, so I guess Enegizer isn't really that good at all for it.
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God this is a long thread... I'll give my take.
Lithiums are great for 2 reasons:
1) a lithium AA or AAA runs at 1.7V instead of 1.5V like alkalines
2) the amperage they put out remains high until they run out where it will drop relativly fast.
I keep a few lithiums around for when I want to make them brighter, but otherwise I have higher amperage Nimh batteries in my MRs.
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God this is a long thread... I'll give my take.
Lithiums are great for 2 reasons:
1) a lithium AA or AAA runs at 1.7V instead of 1.5V like alkalines
2) the amperage they put out remains high until they run out where it will drop relativly fast.
I keep a few lithiums around for when I want to make them brighter, but otherwise I have higher amperage Nimh batteries in my MRs.
Do you know what brands are Lithiums type batteries?
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God this is a long thread... I'll give my take.
Lithiums are great for 2 reasons:
1) a lithium AA or AAA runs at 1.7V instead of 1.5V like alkalines
2) the amperage they put out remains high until they run out where it will drop relativly fast.
I keep a few lithiums around for when I want to make them brighter, but otherwise I have higher amperage Nimh batteries in my MRs.
Do you know what brands are Lithiums type batteries?
I've only seen energizer offer them as the more standard AA and AAA sizes.
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God this is a long thread... I'll give my take.
Lithiums are great for 2 reasons:
1) a lithium AA or AAA runs at 1.7V instead of 1.5V like alkalines
2) the amperage they put out remains high until they run out where it will drop relativly fast.
I keep a few lithiums around for when I want to make them brighter, but otherwise I have higher amperage Nimh batteries in my MRs.
Do you know what brands are Lithiums type batteries?
I've only seen energizer offer them as the more standard AA and AAA sizes.
No kidding. In this case, energizer batteries are the brand of Lithiums type batteries, right? ???
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a lithium AA or AAA runs at 1.7V instead of 1.5V like alkalines
Are you sure about this? I know those Panasonic Oxyride batteries run at 1,7V (initially), but lithiums (at least the Energizer ones I bought) seem to run at 1,5V.
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I also know lthium run at 1.5v ... maybe some special lithium?
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It's what I've heard. :-\ It may say 1.5 (I checked mine, says that) but I suspect it's true. Otherwise there'd be no point to other batteries of different chemistry. I have also heard NicDs put out 1.2V. Which jives with other reasons on why they're still made.
I don't have a volt or even mulitmeter with me but perhaps someone else can confirm/deny that. I know the amperage part is true. Otherwise there'd be no point of buying 700mA AAAs over 900mA AAAs when you look at rechargables.
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hey guys
DO NOT USE OXYRIDE BATTERIES:
http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=1038.0
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Here is what I recommend, for the 3 battery sabers use the Energizer Lithiums yes they are expensive but work great, for the 6 battery saber you can use the Energizer Max, or Durcacell Ultra, these are the ones I have found that work the best for me
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DO NOT USE OXYRIDE BATTERIES:
no problem! here I cant find these ones! ;D
BTW I never seen also Energize "E3" or something like I red in this thread,
only Energizer "Ultimate" and "Ultra+" (aside the standard ones)
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I think E2's are called Ultimate in Europe.
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I think E2's are called Ultimate in Europe.
vwhahahHAHAHAAHAHA that's amazing, so I'm using E2 without knowing what I'm doing .... AAARGH
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I just found my old multimeter and did some measurements. I was in for quite a surprise:
Some cheap Panasonics: 1,548V
Duracell Ultra M3: 1,603V
Energizer Lithium (E2 or Ultimate): 1,798V
That's even 0,1V higher than Oxyrides!!!
It might be a very bad idea to put them in 6 battery sabers, since the voltage would be 1,8V higher than intended.
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I think the Energizer Max work great in the 6 cell
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I use Durecell and they're ok. But I plan to use better ones. ;)
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...My Windu model was acting strange for a while. Sound was cutting out, etc, and the blade was flickering a bit.
I just took the battery holder out and made sure they were all tight, then reinserted it and everything was fine..
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check the copper connectors inside the hilt, also my vader something do the same
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I think E2's are called Ultimate in Europe.
this is not correct i am afraid. ultimates are alkaline batteries in europe the e2 are e2. ultimate is an alkaline battery (i use these myself)
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Ultimates are indeed alkaline batteries, but so are E2's. Only E2 Lithium is..well..lithium-based. E2 Titanium is alkaline. There's no such thing as a titanium-based battery, unless I'm very much mistaken.
It becomes even more confusing. Take a look a http://www.energizer-eu.com/en/ultimate_lithium/default.htm.
Apparently there's Ultimate Lithium AND E2 Lithium in Europe. The difference is... I guess nobody knows. Anyway, I bought Ultimate Lithium and they're great, but too expensive.
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I never see E2 here, if I spot one ill do a try
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e2's are available here but the only place i ever see them is in an outdoor/camping shop, so try there but they are well expensive man.
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Hey I hate to throw a wrench in this but at Walmart today I went for batteries and I found these Duracell Power Pix they were selling for about 8.50 for an 8 pack, they are 1.5v but it says on the package Nickel Oxy Hydroxide, now about performance I think they top the Litiums I put in the Vader Anakin and ROTJ saber, and went against the Litiums I had and the Duracell Ultra I boughts, these abtteries didnt make that much of a difference in the Mace or the Luke ESB, but in the Anakin ROTS and the Luke ROTJ oh man holy brightness Batman, I know MR says to use Alkaline but these things are amazing I will keep track to make sure I dont fry anything but so far a great performance in the the three sabers, but I dont know why I didnt see a difference in the Luke ESB or the Mace ROTS, well the Mace ROTS went a little brighter but I only bought two 8 packs and I didnt have enough for all of them, I will keep everyone updated as to whether or not these are safe.
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I also called Duracell they said these batteries are intended foe digital cameras, and they are not the same as the dreaded Panasonic but it doesnt say dont use in light product so I hope I dont fry anything but if Duracell says its not the same as the Panasonic and they are 1.5v so I dont think they dangerous, but I think I am taking a risk so we shall what happens I do keep checking them.
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Ok its day three all the saber using the Duracell are still working fine
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anyone use accu energizer 2500 mah ;)
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I noticed that Duracell has changed the name of the Duracell Ultra to Duracell Ultra Digital. They are still the same, I just think they
want to exploit the digital camera and long life angle. These are the ones I use and the battery itself still just says Duracell Ultra.
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There is still Duracell Ultra but now there is also Duracell Ultra Digital. The duracell digital is supposed to be better for digital devices. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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holy crap....26 pages on a battery thread, lol. i just use rechargeable batteries. work just fine, and cost me nothing.
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Are they 1.5V Rechargables? I have some 1.4V Rechargables and my dad said why don't you use those. Well for one thing it is supposed to take 1.5V Batteries. But 26 Pages is really ridiculous. hahaha Better then a 26 page thread on jar jar, am I right? Actually I am wrong. 26 wonderful pages of Jar Jar it would be called. Enough with the the jokes, jar jar is actually one of my favourite characters. One of my reasons for that is because everyone gets pissed off at jar jar. hahaha It is quiet funny. But continue with the batteries my friends!
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Hey guys just to note on the Duracell Power Pics batteries I found they ares till working great, I found these at Walmart 8 pack for about 8.50 cheaper than the Litiums but deliver the same performance, if read in my past posts you will see what the chemical compound is, yes I believe them to be safe for the saber I am using them in my Anakin ROTS Vader ESB and the Luke ROTJ with fantastic results, I also did call Duracell they are not the same those Panasonics we have all read about, so if you see in your local Walmart give them try, its been about 3 days and there is no sign of danger when using these
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hmmmm, 1.5 or 1.4.....i have no clue what they are. would it make a difference in reality???
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if you have a six battery saber thats a 9volt total, if you use 1.4 volt batteries its 0.6 of a volt down on its recommended amount. stick with 1.5volt for best.
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if you have a six battery saber thats a 9volt total, if you use 1.4 volt batteries its 0.6 of a volt down on its recommended amount. stick with 1.5volt for best.
thanks for the advice..sounds good
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Ok its day three all the saber using the Duracell are still working fine
Don't worry, my Ani RotS still works fine and those lithiums have been in there for about a month now.
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Greetings
The Maul uses AAA batteries.
You understand that this topic is going much bigger because we have to try the AAA batteries too.
I think it's wise to make a new AAA battery topic when the new Gen4 sabers come out, otherwise people are starting to be afraid of this one.
Your friend Darth Matth.
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LOL, the obi-wan owner can stay here :)
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The best batteries, that I've found and used, are Energizer Lithium. I've had them in my Vader ESB saber now for over two months now!
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energizer lithiums are sweet. I actually but cheaper batteries, I go to best buy and buy a pack of 16 batteries for the same price as 4 energizer lithiums. When they are new they have the same brightness as a lithium, obviously they just dont last as long, but overall its cheaper i think.
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Why do you think they changed them to AAA batteries???
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To create a more accurate hilt size I would say. Just a guess.
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yeah gotta be, thinner batteries = thinner hilt, i wonder if they might have altered the sound chip to suit the new piece, i really hope they have.
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I'm hoping for movie accurate sounds too.
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my two cents: the maul is engineered to work best in the double configuration, so MR can do a nice hilt with quietly sound and provide less power because is using in fact two (little) speakers, this means the "damaged" version may sux, at least for the sound ... frankly my linear brain is thinking: if they have optimized so well the electronic why the obi-wan is again oversized and uses 3AA like the anakin ROTS .... and will be available months later the Maul?
I know, all speculations... but is funny :-)
(BTW how it's possible no one reseller is publishing a preview or a simple "hands-on"??)
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my two cents: the maul is engineered to work best in the double configuration, so MR can do a nice hilt with quietly sound and provide less power because is using in fact two (little) speakers, this means the "damaged" version may sux, at least for the sound ... frankly my linear brain is thinking: if they have optimized so well the electronic why the obi-wan is again oversized and uses 3AA like the anakin ROTS .... and will be available months later the Maul?
I know, all speculations... but is funny :-)
(BTW how it's possible no one reseller is publishing a preview or a simple "hands-on"??)
There should be no difference between AA and AAA's except runtime. They're the same voltage but they just don't have that same amperage capacity to put out power. Also with the smaller blade I don't think it matters and runtime will probably be really similar.
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thinner blade? in the illustrious and fmous words of Luke Skywalker...*ahem*: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!"
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Thinner hilt, not thinner blade
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??? I said smaller not thinner. Smaller length-wise. :P
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??? I said smaller not thinner. Smaller length-wise. :P
Which is movie accurate. Remember Ray Park is only 5'8. 2 normal size sabers would be over 8 foot long
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??? I said smaller not thinner. Smaller length-wise. :P
Which is movie accurate. Remember Ray Park is only 5'8. 2 normal size sabers would be over 8 foot long
Duh, I know that. I just checked and thet didn't change the blade size. It say 43" in length... that's the same. That's really lame.
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really? I saw a pic somewhere from a trade fair and it looked about seven feet long for the double.
Too long will just be stupid
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I think the blade is the same as the Gen 3 thickness wise the BIG question is the sounds
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Yup. MR site has the basic dimensions as 43" x 1.5" which is basically the same and its still a 64 LED blade in the description too. That doesn't jive well. I think a 24" to 28" would have been about right as opposed to the same 33" blade
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Also with the smaller blade I don't think it matters and runtime will probably be really similar.
did you mean the blade is shorter than the usual FXs?
In the movie it appears very similar (if I remember well)
They're the same voltage but they just don't have that same amperage capacity to put out power.
= they are a lot weak than AA... did you know the difference putting the same voltage and double the amperage in a, just for example, r/c monster truck? Same life, double performance.
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Also with the smaller blade I don't think it matters and runtime will probably be really similar.
did you mean the blade is shorter than the usual FXs?
In the movie it appears very similar (if I remember well)
They're the same voltage but they just don't have that same amperage capacity to put out power.
= they are a lot weak than AA... did you know the difference putting the same voltage and double the amperage in a, just for example, r/c monster truck? Same life, double performance.
As I just found out the Maul FX is the same length which is not right. It's slightly shorter in the movie.
I don't know the word then I guess. There is no difference on LEDs between AA and AAA. I mean it's staying power. D, C, AA and AAA are all the same voltage and amerage but don't have the same runtime, almost like a gas tank in a car.
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xwing.
what is smaller in the movie, the hilt or the blade length? somewhere on here this was discussed earlier and the balde length looked the same on production photos.
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Hey I have just sent Amy a PM to answer one major question
Check it out on the MR forum
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I don't know the word then I guess. There is no difference on LEDs between AA and AAA. I mean it's staying power. D, C, AA and AAA are all the same voltage and amerage but don't have the same runtime, almost like a gas tank in a car.
no because if it's true there's no difference between economic AA and duracell Ultras, they have same voltage so I guess it's the linear amperage which is different, anyway my major doubt remains (again) why the one-speaker-only ObiWan will use (again) the AA?
ok....for now I want to stop any supposition and wait for a decent review (and shots without flash pleaseee) ::)
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Hey I have just sent Amy a PM to answer one major question
Check it out on the MR forum
lol, if the major question is about AAA (thanks for your interest) I suppose the officiale reply from MR cant be
"hey, it's very bright and nearly inaudible, the batteries last 22 minutes but, hey, the hilt is thinner and nice!!!"
LOL!!!
JUST joking please
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I don't know the word then I guess. There is no difference on LEDs between AA and AAA. I mean it's staying power. D, C, AA and AAA are all the same voltage and amerage but don't have the same runtime, almost like a gas tank in a car.
no because if it's true there's no difference between economic AA and duracell Ultras, they have same voltage so I guess it's the linear amperage which is different, anyway my major doubt remains (again) why the one-speaker-only ObiWan will use (again) the AA?
ok....for now I want to stop any supposition and wait for a decent review (and shots without flash pleaseee) ::)
You are right and wrong. ;D If you had a set of AA and AAA Duracell ultras the only difference would be their runtimes. There is a slight difference in amperage between brand A and brand B though, which is why the cheapest battery you could find wouldn't be as good as lithiums or Ultras, etc... Each company has a slightly different formula for their batteries otherwise you'd be right that there'd be no difference in buying cheap batteries vs. the more expensive kinds.
BUT between the same brand and type the AA vs. AAA should have the same voltage and amperage.
Think a gas tank. AA Ultras are like a 30 liter (I remember you're european ;) ) with 92 octane gas. The Cheap AA's would be a 30 liter tank with 87 octane gas. And the kicker, AAA Ultras would be like a 20 liter tank with 92 octane gas.
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understood your example
I'm only scared by the price (of decent AAA) considering the lifespan, hey they last 6 month in a miserable tv remote (ok I do a lot of zapping lol) and the ideas they powered 64 leds and a speaker ...uhmmm ... anyway I want to wait some hands-on ... (c'mon ... c'mon... SirSteve? someone... )
about liters ... you're kind but no prob: I have the measure/currency converter always online in the dashboard (a must have for foreign forum lol)
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Hey dudes, i just got my vader, and, I put fresh cold Energizers in my saber. Its sure as xxx bright, but, there are still very little "Spots" on the blade. Also, how do u remove scuffs? my friend was twirling it and it acidently hit his ceiling fan. Luckly for him, it was not on or else I would have murderd him. >:(
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Wow those were nice pics now lets buy some batteries!
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The Maul is very blotchy compared to the other sabers with Duracell Ultra but I think the new Duracell
PowerPix batteries may help a lot. I tried these in my other sabers and really saw an intensity I hadn't
seen before. They made my Vader bright enough that staring at it too long made me see spots for a few
seconds afterwards. lol. Never had that happen with any other battery. I saw them mentioned in another
thread and thought I'd try them.
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having a Maul from two week I finally can say the AAA last half the time of the AA in the Vader/Anakin, in fact my Vader is still working after a month, the Maul is depleted after ten days (just powerupped and swinged around any day for a few minutes), so the "blotchy" question is hot, because I can afford supercostly lithium or whatever batteries and change six batteries every ten days :-(
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personally i havnt had any problems battery-wise. I was one of the first get my Double Maul, and I put batteries in the day I got them. I must say they still work great on the same set of batteries months later. I do swing around that Maul quite a bit, one of my favorite FX's. I just put normal Duracell in mine too..
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lucky you...
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I know! Every time i turn it on now i get a bit afraid..."will this be the day they give out?..."
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I must said... with standard Duracell I see the blade very blotchy but in penumbra (a room with lol light level) when you see the blade a little pink
in the complete dark it looks good
I have better result with Energizer Ultimate, the color is more Vaderesque solid
but about lifespan trust me, I do a lot of dueling with the FX and the Maul last half the standard 3xAA FX (I mean using for at least 20' a day) I have done a full change (6 batteries) three times in twenty days :-(
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oh your absolutely right, go with the ultimate, the lithium, whatever they are called, better everything on those. I have no idea why mine is lasting, definitely a fluke
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if you handle it and try a couple of swings alone or just to ear an OOOOH from friends ;D no worry they last a lot
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Every couple of weeks i bring my sabers to work, all the customers love them, and needless to say kids are in awe. They do tend to lighten everybody's mood as well. Gotta love these FX's..
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where do you work?
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I be a Manager at a Hollywood Video for the time being.
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Sweet, If i brought my Fx's to school I would either get beaten up or they would be stolen. Then again both may happen :D
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I always change my batteries even if new becauce my batteries got too old once and white stuff got in there and it took me a while for me to get some of it out and it still won't come out in one of the battery compartments
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I mostly change my batteries in my Mace FX if you can see the leds -_-' that looks so stupid.
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Can you see the leds of the other sabers too?
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only if you try to see it or stare at it too long
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So, how will batteries last before the sabers performance starts to decrease?(blade dulls, quiter sound) Cause I hear when you put in new batteries its alot brighter etc...
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i use rechargeables there about 2500mha r these any good lol
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rechargables wont give you great performance because generally they are only 1.2volt not 1.5volt
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After all this time... this batter thread still has it's purpouse :D
Exactly as Han Solo has said ;) ...Use good alkalines in your MRs 8)
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im gonna get some of these on thursday hopefully :D
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I just got some Energizer E2s at Big Lots. 15 AAs for $7.50. Thats a pretty good deal!
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thats about £4-5 over here which is a good deal lol we will probably pay more over here though lol
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I've been meaning to ask... has anyone boughten from this website: http://www.batteriesandbutter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc? ?
Yoda posted it quite a few pages back and I pmed him asking if he had boughten from them before and seeing if they were reliable or not but that was a couple of days ago and I haven't gotten a reponse back from him yet.
So anyways I thought I'd ask here. Has anyone boughten from them, are they reliable?
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iv never tryed them lol thanks for posting it though il have a look
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Here is a test I did of various batteries in my Obi Wan saber. See the results for yourself!
http://www.monkeyview.net/id/3302/sabers/Obi_Battery_test.vhtml?no_browser_cache=2006-12-20%2001:28:46
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Great comparison Mojo. Powerpix are my only choice after comparing batteries in my sabers (allthough I've never tried the more expensive Lithiums) I just find the intensity of the LEDs a lot better with them. Very, very bright.
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Great comparison Mojo. Powerpix are my only choice after comparing batteries in my sabers (allthough I've never tried the more expensive Lithiums) I just find the intensity of the LEDs a lot better with them. Very, very bright.
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Well this morning I had my dad get me some Lithium Energizer batteries with a Wally World gift card that I had gotten for Christmas. I have noticed that the blades are quite a bit brighter but not that much. There is still some blotchyness to them especially in my Maul. :( I think I'll try Duracell Ultra's next since those are A LOT cheaper than the Lithium Energizers.
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Dude are you reading the posts? Forget the other batteries just get DURACELL POWER PIX.
They are more expensive than regular alkaline, but not as much as lithiums - and they perform as well as lithium (perhaps even a slight bit better).
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Why dude yes I do read the posts! ::)
I have the right to still experiment on my own, if I want to.
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Is there a technical reason to use or not to use powerpix in my lux saber? Not an energizer vs. duracell debate, but will the powerpix batteries harm my saber?
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i must charge my batts soon its been ages since i last recharged them but they still look very bright
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Of course everyone is welcome to experiment, but I already tried all the batteries and took careful comparison pictures so everyone else wouldn't have to bother. My tests and those made by others (look at the other battery threads) have shown that the Duracell Power Pix beat them all.
No, they won't harm your saber. They couldn't sell them if they were capable of damaging anything.
Honestly, the only way a battery is going to harm your saber is if it exploded inside, which is extremely rare. And even then, chances are you could clean out the power pack and it would still be fine.
The bottom line is any AA battery out there will work and be safe, but some will perform better than others.
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what about hooking a car batt up to the saber but you would need a meaty fuse LMAO
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what about hooking a car batt up to the saber but you would need a meaty fuse LMAO
It would be just like the lightsabers the jedi used before they created internal power cells. ;)
Totally forgot to say thanks for answering my question. So, uh, Thanks. :)
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I had Duracell Ultras in my luxeon 3 Anakin and I switched them with Energizer E2 rechargables. Wow, huge difference there. Even though these are rechargables, they are exceptionally bright. I can't wait until I pick up some E2 lithiums. Mojo, the problem with Powerpixs is that while they are strong at first, they loose their charge faster than E2 Li. Even on the duracell powerpix page it warns that they won't last that long in flashlights. So E2 Li are probably better overall because they stay consistent for longer periods of time. Here's a link to Duracell's page with the powerpix thing, note that they compared their powerpix against alkaline batteries when discussing the flashlight thing. Thus, compared to Li, I believe it might yield similar results (A little brighter, but not as long).
http://www.duracell.com/gna/powerpix/faq.htm
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Jin, you are absolutely right, lithiums would most likely outlast anything. I was wondering how PowerPix would stack up as far as longevity went, and it seems that while they might beat lithiums by maybe 5% for brightness, they willl probably loose their edge and fade out much faster.
In the end, lithiums might not be as expensive as they seem.
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Just put new lithiums in my obi-wan and would like to re-emphasize this.
Do not underestimate the power of new batteries.
Id forgotten what a fully lit fx looked like! ;D
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First time posting. Ordered myself a Darth Vader ESB FX saber... now, bout the batteries. I'll just have to say CR*P cause I bought Nickel Metal Hydride (NiMH) rechargeable batteries from Energizer for the Saber. Will those types of batteries spoil the saber like titanium or lithium batteries?
(I like this site a lot ;) )
Rechargeables are the most practical way in all honesty though cause all you have to do is buy them once and i didnt have any problems with them in any of mine althought i havent converted my sabers yet but i soon will
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The thing with rechargables is they lose there effectiveness after a while. and some rechargables will actually suck themselves in.
You know on the positive end the bit that sticks up. that will actually start sucking itself in. After that happens I dont know, I tossed them before I could find out.
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Jin, you are absolutely right, lithiums would most likely outlast anything. I was wondering how PowerPix would stack up as far as longevity went, and it seems that while they might beat lithiums by maybe 5% for brightness, they willl probably loose their edge and fade out much faster.
In the end, lithiums might not be as expensive as they seem.
I've used Power Pix recently and found that they dont last long at all. Brightness....amazing. Longevity.......blah!!!
Also make sure none of you buy Sunbeam brand batteries. My finace bought an 8 pack of these for around the house. I needed some batteries for my 2 Hasbro Force action sabers. They lasted all of about 3 days. Cant imagine what a Force FX would look like with these pieces of crap.
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I've done a whole trial and error with various batteries for sabers. I'm talking about full on lab reports! I was so desperate with finding the perfect battery source for sabers. Here are my results.
2005 Darth Maul FX
Energizer e2 Titannium
2007 Luke ANH
Duracell Ultra
Mace Windu
Energizer e2 LITHIUM ION
(not to be confused with Energizer e2 Titannium!
That's a completely different battery.)
Obi-wan ROTS
Sony Heavy Duty
That's all I got. Anyone who wants to fill in the blanks, go right ahead.
For anyone who wants to stick with just one brand and not go out buying
loads of different batteries, I suggest Energizer e2 Lithium Ion. Trust me on that.
Oh, and one more thing. If anyone suggests getting rechargeables of any brand,
DO NOT DO IT!!!
It'll fry the LEDs and the soundboard. The sabers can't handle the stored outlet power for more than four
or five saber ignitions. Not only does it warn this in the manuals, but I've done it out of curiousity to record the outcome.
Biggest mistake of my life!! I warn any and all saber owners, if you value your saber, you will not use
rechargeable batteries at all. I know that some people have suggested rechargeables on this and other forums. But they obviously either never done it before, or they get their jollies from telling people this (the nerve of some people!). I really can not stress this enough. Anyone saying rechargeables are safe for sabers IS LYING TO YOUR FACE!! Don't do it.
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Is there a Tesco available in your area? The Tesco branded batteries are dirt cheap and they make the (stock) FX Sabers look bright as usual. A pack of 4 AA batteries can be bought at 2.50MYR (0.78USD)
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no, I've never heard of them. I'll check for one in the area. thanks for the heads up, plo koon!
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Here's a little something for all you people that grew up in the 90's ;)
Hey! It's on topic! :D
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Haha! I remember that commercial! It's still funny.
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he should have yelled "NOOOOOO!" then it would be perfect
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Hmmmmm...watching that commercial again slowly I'm wondering exactly which Vader saber that is...it doesn't look EXACTLY like a ROTJ in the pic that shows the emitter from above and there also appears to be a different rivet pattern on the rubber grips in the battery shot than I've seen before??? Am I seeing correctly?
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Just an FYI, for those of you who think you may get even brighter luminosity if you get the ultra special Energizer titanium or lithium batteries, I would suggest you DON'T use them.
Master Replicas is specific about what kind of battery you are supposed to use with the Force FX: only akaline batteries. If you don't use akaline, you run the risk of damaging your Force FX, or severely shortening its lifespan.
I haven't read the whole thread, but i do read the saber manual and the battery manual which says energizer lithium is alkaline ;D
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Just an FYI, for those of you who think you may get even brighter luminosity if you get the ultra special Energizer titanium or lithium batteries, I would suggest you DON'T use them.
Master Replicas is specific about what kind of battery you are supposed to use with the Force FX: only akaline batteries. If you don't use akaline, you run the risk of damaging your Force FX, or severely shortening its lifespan.
Funny, because I have been using the Energizer e2 Lithiums for a year and a half now in my converted Luke ROTJ with no adverse effect whatsoever... And before I converted it, I still used them.
I also Use Li-Ion batteries with MR boards regulary with no downsides...
You do realize that the MR instruction sheets are written at a 6th grade reading level right? The Force FX Lightsabers were designed NOT to be taken apart, and were intended to be left in their factory state. The boards inside them can handle a lot more juice than they normally receive, and we are talking voltage here.
Batteries that output a little more mAh are not going to adversely effect anything. Sorry to point out the misinformation, but your statement is not grounded in the reality you may think it is.
Basically MR put that in the instruction manual to cover their sixes in case some stump jumpin' jethro decided to put THREE li-ion rechageables into the saber, bork it up and demand a refund.
Let's face it here, if you put three ultrafires in a STOCK MR saber... You won't be happy with the results, when you start smelling burnt wiring, and no cool stuff happening in the saber, except for som smoke rolling out of the pommel cap when you open it up.
MR boards can handle up to 6.5V. Three Ultrafire LC14500's = 10.8V... That's why MR put that disclaimer in.
The other reason, is that NIMH rechargeables typically run around 1.2V which is a little lower than the 1.5V a normal alkaline battery runs at...
Running a saber at a lower voltage than its target voltage will cause odd fluctuations in sound quality, and can provide a dimmer or even spotty blade. Which in turn will lead to yet another return to the retailer, and a loss to the profit margin of the company...
ALL manufacturers write stuff like that into instruction manuals to cover their butts. It's not that they think everyone is ignorant, but they have to assume as such for the safety of their profit. Basically if they dumb it down as much as possible, then they can turn a larger profit on each unit sold, rather than having to have units returned to the manufacture point for inspection or repair...
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Does anybody know why my luke anh has very slight dark spots at the upper half of the blade? (I use the Energizer Lithiums btw) It's noticeable on video whenever I swing my blade quickly, but not when idle or moving slightly.
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It might be the diffuser foam padding around the LED strip. or just a connection that isn't fully soldered on the ladder.
My guess would be the diffuser, because from time to time they got a batch that wasn't always even in thickness and composition. It's not like the led is completely dead though right?...
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It might be the diffuser foam padding around the LED strip. or just a connection that isn't fully soldered on the ladder.
My guess would be the diffuser, because from time to time they got a batch that wasn't always even in thickness and composition. It's not like the led is completely dead though right?...
No....it's not completely out - some spots only look darker than the rest of the blade :D Thanks for the info DT :D
So, it's not caused by the batteries?
Can stronger batteries make up for it?
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It might be the diffuser foam padding around the LED strip. or just a connection that isn't fully soldered on the ladder.
My guess would be the diffuser, because from time to time they got a batch that wasn't always even in thickness and composition. It's not like the led is completely dead though right?...
No....it's not completely out - some spots only look darker than the rest of the blade :D Thanks for the info DT :D
So, it's not caused by the batteries?
Can stronger batteries make up for it?
Duracell Ultra, bro. I also own Luke ANH and I noticed that same problem with Li-Ions (see my chart on page 31 of this topic).
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It might be the diffuser foam padding around the LED strip. or just a connection that isn't fully soldered on the ladder.
My guess would be the diffuser, because from time to time they got a batch that wasn't always even in thickness and composition. It's not like the led is completely dead though right?...
No....it's not completely out - some spots only look darker than the rest of the blade :D Thanks for the info DT :D
So, it's not caused by the batteries?
Can stronger batteries make up for it?
Duracell Ultra, bro. I also own Luke ANH and I noticed that same problem with Li-Ions (see my chart on page 31 of this topic).
Thanks!! I didn't think something cheaper would be stronger ;D ;D
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Actually if the Saber is Stock, then The Duracell Ultra Digitals have been test-proven to be the most beneficial in a Force-FX Saber than any other aside from the Energizer Titaniums...
The e2 Lithiums are better for those sabers that have been converted to Luxeon.
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Actually if the Saber is Stock, then The Duracell Ultra Digitals have been test-proven to be the most beneficial in a Force-FX Saber than any other aside from the Energizer Titaniums...
The e2 Lithiums are better for those sabers that have been converted to Luxeon.
That's why - mine has a stock blade ;D
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Duracell Power Pix Duracell Power Pix Duracell Power Pix Duracell Power Pix Duracell Power Pix Duracell Power Pix Duracell Power Pix Duracell Power Pix Duracell Power Pix Duracell Power Pix Duracell Power Pix.....
They make quite a difference...but have a short life. So they are more for showing off then general use
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So, which battery will produce the brightest and most even MR stock blade? BTW, I re-checked the batteries I'm using - they're energizer titanium not lithium ;D
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Lithium batteries are pretty much optimul in terms of current and voltage effeciency. The problem is that you would opt to go for rechargeable since you would have to continuosly replace the nonrechargable batteries. Which you would have to do some cutom modifications to your saber.
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I just saw the youtube energizer commercial of page 31, i remember that, and it was halarious!!!!! thanx for finding that!!
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So today I just got my Maul battle damaged hilt from amazon it works great but i wanted to tell everyone just how important batteries can be we all know the blades on the maul are thicker so even with the same batteries as your other hasbro fx sabers it would look less bright.... Anyways I got curious and put energizer lithium batteries in it and wow its actually brighter than my hasbro vader anh with energizer rechargables with a full charge I would show you a pic but my camera cannot see the difference but I def can i love this saber anyways now I just love it even more..... ;D
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I've found that anytime I've cheaped out on batteries, I've paid for it twice over with less run time and less brightness. Go big or go home with batteries for sure.
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Those are really great infos...thanks for sharing
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We see this every time we do a costumed "troop" There's allways someone who forgot to change their batteries or who's bought cheapo batteries at the grosery store before coming to the troop. If you put 5 jedi close to each other for a group pic, the diffirence is very noticable.
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masterscott posted 2 years ago that rechargeable batteries arent safe. 3 years later, does that still hold true? or are today's soundboards and PCB able to prevent the Li-ion rechargables from frying the soundboard and misc hardware
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The same hold true;
Always use protected cells when using Li-Ion, whether it is single protected 3.7v, or homemade pack, (using the pcb).
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Yes, as Chewbacca explained, it still holds true.
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All that I currently own is a MR anakin fx saber, and the first thing I've done from reading this forum is try new batteries for my saber. It hadn't really occured to me that the rayovac batteries weren't giving me the best blade brightness. Soooo I went out yesterday and got some Duracell Ultra Advanced and some Duracell Powerpix. The powerpix were a pain to find I might add.
Anyway unless im having a crazy placebo effect the powerpix definately gave me a brighter saber. Most of the dark areas between the leds were 'filled in'. The Ultras did give me a slightly brighter blade than the rayovacs so ill probably keep those in and only use the powerpix if anybody else wants to see it.
My next saber is gonna be the vader removable blade fx and im excited to see what a red fx saber looks like cause I haven't seen one in person yet.
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I'm surpriced that the PowerPix is still; the brightest.
I haven't tryed batteries lately, since most of my sabers are rechergeable now. (CF sabers)
I have some FX's but they are not in my livingroom to take and see.
I was hoping someone encountered newer MUCH greater batteries in the meantime.
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Im getting my ROTJ 2011 Hasbro. Can someone PM me or let me know what current batteries produce the brightest blade WITHOUT frying my Saber? Thanks!
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If you are not converting it, you would just use the batteries that it calls for. Usually AAAs. There are not really a whole lot of options.
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Okay, just wanted to make sure that AAA camera lithium ultimate batteries wouldent fry my saber. Thanks!
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Sometimes they can. Some people swear by them, however they can have higher voltage at startup than traditional alkalines so can cause damage. Up to you.
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Yikes! Yes! yes! :grin: :grin: