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Re: QUI-GON JINN's Chrome Saber 22 (CS-22) Build
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2010, 02:20:45 AM »
Lookin' good Qui-Gon. I love the black and chrome with the purple. Very slick.

There is a site that sells purple ring switches that are rated for 3.4 volts and they have them in black as well.

Here is the link:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=374_412&products_id=24289&zenid=82778c2dab9c4ebdbb3dd432a5b25e19

Hope it helps.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2010, 02:27:13 AM by Ri-on Ozryel »

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Re: QUI-GON JINN's Chrome Saber 22 (CS-22) Build
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2010, 02:50:09 AM »
Where do you think I got them?  ;)  ;D


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Re: QUI-GON JINN's Chrome Saber 22 (CS-22) Build
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2010, 08:13:54 AM »
This one turned out really nice. 8) Bravo!
I like the green switch with the purple LED. A nice contrast.

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Re: QUI-GON JINN's Chrome Saber 22 (CS-22) Build
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2010, 04:19:51 PM »
Jolly decided he'd rather stick with the green activation button,  so I put it back together and consider it finished....again...;)


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Re: QUI-GON JINN's Chrome Saber 22 (CS-22) Build
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2010, 03:25:11 PM »
I had not seen this topic!!!  you have a big skill a great gift my friend, you have achieved a saber really worth appreciating.
I congratulate you, very clean, very elegant!!
Simply Awesome. ;)
« Last Edit: February 06, 2010, 12:46:15 AM by Gabywan »

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Re: QUI-GON JINN's Chrome Saber 22 (CS-22)
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2012, 08:11:25 AM »
Another topic revival for an upgrade job!

This saber belongs to a fiend of mine in the Rebel Legion,  and is in my local base.  He was very impressed with the sound quality on the Petit Crouton saber when he first heard it in my personal saber,  CS-X a few months ago.  He then sent me back BS-20,  which he also owns,  to upgrade the sound board in that saber.  After that was completed,  he sent me this one,  his main saber for an upgrade as well.

Being his main "trooping" saber, this needs to have good run time,  and with the size of the hilt,  we discussed the options,  and decided to try to something a bit different....we could easily use a pair of 14650's,  or an 18650 stick pack in this one,  but I had a pair of individually protected 25500's I ordered a while back from DealExtreme,  and we're going to see how well they actually work. 

So here it is,  all dismantled and ready for the upgrades:


 
Depending on which speaker fits best,  it will use either the 1.5 watt standard speaker or the high bass from TCSS.


The battery pack....these are wired parallel to each other at the recharge port.  Hopefully,  this will have a good run time to it so Jolly will not have to worry about recharging the saber while at an event.  The cells were rated at 5500mAh,  but it's been tested and shown that they are over rated,  and are actually closer to 2800-3000mAh.
 
The foam on the sides is there to keep it from moving in the hilt.


I'll be reusing the green ring AV switch.

I'll be replacing the DX 3W RGB with a Tri-Rebel:
 
This one is a Royal-Blue,  Red,  and White,  RbRW.  I'll have to use the main blade colors,  Rb&R in parallel so I can resistor the red and dial in the shade of violet we want.  It will also allow for the 3.7v battery pack to power it properly along with the board.  The board itself will be a PC 1.6.  It may be a bit underpowered,  but we are going for long run time,  not maximum brightness and volume.  Besides,  I've used the PC 1.x before on 3.7 volt battery packs,  and the sabers were plenty loud enough (CS-35 comes to mind.)


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Re: QUI-GON JINN's Chrome Saber 22 (CS-22)
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2012, 08:15:37 AM »
looking good.  lots of update sabers, you must be pretty busy.  You've been using lots of tri-rebels lately, what are you using to glue in the lens?  Not regular super glue right?  I did a test of that with a regular lens holder on a p4 and it frosted the whole lens and holder. 





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Re: QUI-GON JINN's Chrome Saber 22 (CS-22)
« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2012, 08:18:33 AM »
No super glue....just plain old everyday high-temperature hot glue. (melts at 400 degrees) This will make it easier to remove if necessary.


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Re: QUI-GON JINN's Chrome Saber 22 (CS-22)
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2012, 08:43:57 AM »
Another trick is to use the Pre-Cut, Thermal Adhesive Tape for 20mm Tri-Star Bases.
Notice the small dot cutouts for the optics?


Those dots are just waste, if you do not use them.
So just peel them off and put them on the post from the underside of the LED.




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Re: QUI-GON JINN's Chrome Saber 22 (CS-22)
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2012, 09:30:02 AM »
I have a sheet of those...I may try that on this one.

Here's the board:
 
It's already set up with a Pex because it was just extracted from CS-X:

 :-[ I guess I'll have to put the PC 2.0 I have sitting in my parts drawer in that one.  ;)

Added new R.I.C.E. port wiring:


Affixed it to the chassis mount:


Then soldered wires to the speaker (this is going to use a Kobitone 1W for now...it was already made up with the appropriate pvc mount for running wires to a pommel):
 
I have yet to decide if i want to actually mount the RICE port in the pommel grill,  or just leave it inside the pommel.  I'm not a fan lots of ports on my sabers,  so it may just be hidden in side the pommel if I can keep it from rattling.  ;)

The rest of the wires are all set up to pass around the switch,  so hopefully,  all will go smoothly when I install the board tomorrow:


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Re: QUI-GON JINN's Chrome Saber 22 (CS-22)
« Reply #40 on: July 26, 2012, 02:47:47 AM »
I lot of good ideas to secure the optics and I want to share mine, an O-ring  ;)

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Re: QUI-GON JINN's Chrome Saber 22 (CS-22)
« Reply #41 on: July 30, 2012, 07:58:46 AM »
I managed to finish this one up over the weekend...here's what I did....

I installed the battery pack,  and started installation of the board:
 

These are the RICE port leads:


Obviously,  for the PC 1.6 to operate fully,  I'll need to add an aux button.  I This one has plenty of room in the ribbed extension between the board and the led heat sink for the switch,  so I'll install it using a pvc c-clip:
 
To make the clip,  I'll use a 1/2" wide ring cut off from a 1 1/4" pvc sink drain tailpiece extension.

It will need to be cut down enough to fit inside the smaller i.d. of the ribbed extension:
 

Next,  it needs to be drilled and tapped for the switch threads:
 
I marked it with  a black marker where I wanted the switch,  then drilled the hole:
 

Then using an old,  damaged switch for a tap (tap's for these metric threads are fairly expensive,  and this will work if you don't have one),  I "tapped" the hole:


Then installed the actual switch:
 
This is obviously not the best way to do this,  but it'll get the job done.  you will basically be force fitting the switch into the hole in the pvc clip.

Now to check it for fit:
 
That'll work just fine.

Now to solder the leads to the switch:
 

To install it in the ribbed extesnion,  you need to make sure the wires are long enough for the clip to reach through the extension and leave the clip in the female threads so the extension will spin freely around the clip.  this prevents any damage to the wires from twisting.  The wires will simply coil up on their own when the clip is pushed in and snaps into place.
 

 

The extension can be threaded into the bottom of the hilt now:
 
And the switch slid into position:
 

The leads for the led's are just long enough to reach out of the ribbed extension,  and fit around the switch just fine:
 
It might still be possible to access the SD card,  but it really won't be necessary with this particular saber...Jolly is not one to change sound fonts on his sabers,  and if it needs settings changed,  he can use the RICE port.

Now to hook up the RICE port:
 
I color coded the wires to match the diagram in the PC manual,  just to make it easier to remember what wire was what.  ;)

Made the connections:
 
I heat shrunk all three terminals,  then the entire port.  This will not reach the pommel grill,  so it'll be free floating inside the pommel.  It has enough tension on the wires not to rattle,  so it'll work and will keep the port hidden.

Now for the really fun part....wiring up the new main blade led,  and Rb-R-W Tri-Rebel:

I started by adding a jumper between the Royal blue and Red positive pads.  This will need to be wired in parallel,  even though there will be some color separation.  The battery pack is set up for 3.7v,  so a series connection is out of the question.  This is fine with the owner as this saber is a trooping saber,  and run time is more important than color separation at start up and shut down.

The next step was adding the negative leds to the Rb and R pads:
 

I then mounted the led to the heat sink using a thermal adhesive pad:
 
I also added the leads for the white FoC led as well.

To get the correct shade of violet/purple in this set up,  a resistor needs to be added to the red,  since I tried it straight without one,  and got a hot pink.....I don't think Jolly wants hot pink,  so I tried out a few resistors on the red:
 
I believe this one was a 10 ohm,  1 watt. It was too pink in person...the camera didn't pick it up correctly.  It didn't have quite enough red,  and looked more blue than the camera showed.

Then I tried a few more (one of these days I need to remember to pick up a potentiometer for this...keep forgetting when I order electronics components to add one to the cart)
 
5.7 ohm,  1 watt....got closer to the shade I was looking for,  but not quite there.  Needed more red.

This was a 3.3ohm,  1 watt resistor:

That's the shade of violet I was looking for,  so I went with that one.

Here's the finished led soldered,  heat shrunk,  and ready to go:
 
The lens is secured to the star with hot glue....I forgot about Jango's suggestion by the time I did this,  and used the glue gun out of habit.  Oh,  well,  I'll try the bits of the adhesive pad next time.

The final color:
 

 
The color is fairly even in person,  but the camera makes it look better than it is,  since the tip of the blade fades a bit to a pink-ish purple color near the tip.  This is probably due to design of the lenses for this particular led. It is still much brighter than the DX RGB that was in this before,  though,  so I think he'll be happy with it.

I tried to get a shot of the FoC,  but all I got was this:

I need to alter the parameters for that for it to show up better in a picture,  but the blade does indeed turn white during a clash and blade lock up.  I'll try to get a video made after I adjust the settings a bit with RICE.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2012, 08:38:38 AM by QUI-GON JINN »


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Re: QUI-GON JINN's Chrome Saber 22 (CS-22)
« Reply #42 on: July 30, 2012, 09:20:29 AM »
Ah, good to see the saber that inspired mine again. Nice upgrades.  8)

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Re: QUI-GON JINN's Chrome Saber 22 (CS-22)
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