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Offline Onli-Won Kanomi

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Clone Wars continuity error???
« on: October 20, 2008, 09:44:09 PM »
I just saw a Clone Wars episode with General Grevious and he was coughing...I was under the impression that General Grevious cough in ROTS was a result of Mace Windu Force-crushing his ribcage in the episodes of the original Clone Wars animated series that occured JUST before the beginning of ROTS...so how could Grevious have that same cough in these episodes occuring apparently well before then?

Is this a major continuity mistake [which seems unlikely considering other ways they seem to be paying good attention to detail] or did I misunderstand something?

More pointedly exactly WHEN do these animated series episodes happen in comparison to the earlier animated series? Before the first animated series first season? between its season 1 & 2?
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Re: Clone Wars continuity error???
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2008, 09:45:57 PM »
I thought it was the body, (what was left of it) rejecting the armor, the crush probably didn;t help either though

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http://members.shaw.ca/david.p.z.888/star_wars/grievous.html

He was initially going to be voiced in Revenge of the Sith by actor Gary Oldman; however, he later learned that he was unable to do so, as the movie was being made outside of the Screen Actors Guild, which he is a member of.
The reason Grievous has a cough was because, during the production of Revenge of the Sith, George Lucas came into work one day with a cough, and decided that it would be amusing to record it and use it on the new Episode III villain (it has been suggested by fans that Lucas also intended the cough to foreshadow the trademark breathing of Darth Vader). The reason for the cough is a source of great confusion for fans, as it was presented in at least three different Expanded Universe sources (Deep Forest, Obsession and Clone Wars Volume II, all of which take place prior to Revenge of the Sith and manage to contradict each other.)
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Re: Clone Wars continuity error???
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2008, 09:58:10 PM »
In layman's terms... Lucas can't keep his own universe straight  :-\
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Re: Clone Wars continuity error???
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2008, 07:30:24 AM »
Awww, sissy stuff!  He shoulda seen the virus I had last week!  ;)

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Re: Clone Wars continuity error???
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2008, 08:05:48 AM »
Yeah...that one is a great source of contradiction.

I choose personally to believe the Mace Windu damaging Grevious in Clone Wars Vol II b/c I like that reason the best  ;D

Also...anyone else notice that Grevious was only coughing in 1 of the Malevolence episodes but not in the other 2? They can't even keep continuity between 3 episodes  ::)



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Re: Clone Wars continuity error???
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2008, 08:30:51 AM »
Maybe General Grevious ran out of Buckley's for this episode! :D



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Re: Clone Wars continuity error???
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2008, 10:28:30 AM »
There were some things I liked though...Y-wings with full cowlings over the engines do look better...and nice to see Plo Koon getting good attention.
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Re: Clone Wars continuity error???
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2008, 12:02:15 PM »
The Y-wings are great!  So is the B-wing like craft that Anakin has been flying in the last couple episodes.

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Re: Clone Wars continuity error???
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2008, 09:51:46 AM »
I was always under the impression that Grevious coughed because of the "prototype" cybernetics.  Like the evolution into Darth Vaders implants.  Grevious's were the beta version. Just my POV.

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Re: Clone Wars continuity error???
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2008, 10:27:51 AM »
I'm pretty sure he only coughed once in the whole episode... so I would say it's more like an illness that will get worse as the show progresses.... :D
   
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Re: Clone Wars continuity error???
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2008, 03:58:03 AM »
I read somewhere(can't remember where) that Grevious coughs because he was part living creature/part cyborg kinda like Vader. That his body was damaged so badly in battle it was barely able to function with the implants and thus the cough.  It said something to the affect that his flesh and blood body was rejecting the implants/or they were not working properly.  Those mistakes learned from Grevious' issues helped Sidious's scientists create a better, more stable version...i.e. Vader's suit.  So I really don't see the error.  Purhaps Windu merely accelerated Grevious's condition by damaging the body further.  Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Clone Wars continuity error???
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2008, 06:51:38 AM »
I honestly think they(Lucasfilm) are trying to overwrite the previous Clone War installments. They don't seem compatible to me. I still prefer the cartoon and it's part of my "official" canon. I'm largely ignoring this new one.

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Re: Clone Wars continuity error???
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2009, 11:51:50 PM »
Even tho I enjoyed the original Clone Wars Shorts I don't consider them to be official SW canon. There is no way to keep any sense of continuity when untold amounts of writers have in some way contributed to SW in one form or another. Lucas himself has said many times that he doesn't follow any EU based star wars material. He has also said there are 3 star wars universes, His, Video Games, and Expanded Universe material (books) To me the only things that involve GL directly in one form or another is what I consider official canon (Episodes 1-6 and The current Clone Wars Cartoon) for example.

Lets say you created a fantasy world that people can't get enough of and decided to let others develop off shoot material to fund the machine. You then come back years later and want to tell more of a story about your fantasy world, would you read all the material others came up with and try to fit in your story with there's? Or would you say ....."This is my universe, I will tell whatever story I feel like and if it doesn't fit with what some others have wrote on a subject ....ohhh well"

So to me ...this is not a continuity error. I heard somewhere that there is some EU book that tells the story of how Gen. Grev. came to be. Something to the effect of he being in a ship crash and Dooku saved his life by making him the cyborg he is. Well that doesn't vibe with the Clone Wars series either.

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Re: Clone Wars continuity error???
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2009, 12:09:33 AM »
Actually, Lucas oversaw the script for The Force Unleashed too, so that it would remain constant with the storyline.  So I would consider that "canon" also.

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Re: Clone Wars continuity error???
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2009, 12:13:15 AM »
Actually, Lucas oversaw the script for The Force Unleashed too, so that it would remain constant with the storyline.  So I would consider that "canon" also.

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