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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2008, 10:00:24 PM »

So a mid-grade blade will fit in a dark initate?
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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2008, 10:06:13 PM »

Yes, plus the LED in a Dark initiate is a Luxeon III.
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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2008, 02:24:19 AM »

Would there be enough space in a Dark initiate to install a soundboard?  Grin
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« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2008, 05:07:01 AM »

Would there be enough space in a Dark initiate to install a soundboard?  Grin

Perhaps, but you would need to accommodate for speaker wiring, and resonance.

You MIGHT be able to squeeze a yoda board in there, but it would be shoehorned.

To be honest, I don't really understand why so many people ask about putting sound in initiate sabers in the first place... Undecided

They were never designed with that intent.
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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2008, 08:57:28 AM »

It's like it was previously stated. The initiates were designed for the younglings. Nothing like light AND sound to hold ones attention. Besides, the sound is iconic, EVERYONE knows the sounds of a lit up saber. Even children.
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« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2008, 11:52:32 AM »

Well that's the thing. My children make the sounds for themselves, even IF the saber they are playing with has it.  The key is imagination, something that seems to be lacking in the recent generations.

The Answer is outright in this regard though, sure you could put sound in an initiate.  But by the time you do, you have nearly spent as much as you would for a decent Stock Force FX. Let alone what one would spend on a custom sinktube saber which is much nicer.

This is not going to say that the initiates are bad, but it seems as though people tend to be overlooking the entire point of the initiates to begin with.  The original idea is to have a kid's saber that is VERY durable, and will last a LONG time, be less expensive in upkeep (Face it, they don't eat batteries as fast as sabers with sound.) and keeps the kids away from your $200-$400 sabers.

Another thing that lends to my views on this, is that the more electronics you stuff into a hilt, the more chances there are of breakage. Lending itself to more expensive repairs should something get broken while roughhousing.

Please take into consideration that I mean no offense with any of my comments here. However my outlook is: If you want a saber with sound, then why do it in something made of PVC, when there are other more worthwhile sabers that a sound card could go into?  Now I am not saying that I don't have a couple of PVC sabers with sound already (I do), but that was because of all the questions everyone asks about this very subject. Grin I wanted to see for myself if it coud be done, and it can, but not without it's downfalls.

Yes it is possible to put sound n the initiate styled sabers, worth the work? Your mileage may vary on that one.  In my opinion: No it's not worth the effort when there are better uses for a sound card.

Although, HASBRO toy saber sound cards are plentiful enough, and WILL fit nicely. Grin
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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2008, 07:01:44 PM »

For the price of an initiate you can build an MHS saber from TCSS.  That saber would be customizable and also take the soundboards.  I built a very cool saber for my 2 year old son that is very durable cost close to the initiate and I then added an Obi sound board.  Just another thought for you.
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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2008, 07:55:32 AM »

I was wondering if I could get some facts about the kids sabers because the ultrasabers site really doesn't tell you.  What kind of led does the initiate and dark initiate have?  I thought they had 1 watt led's but I've seen someone else say thay have a luxeon III, but if this is true why does the ultrasabers site say not to use a longer blade.  Also the apprentice comes with a 34 inch blade so does this have a more powerful led, it costs around 10 bucks more.
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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2008, 08:48:37 AM »

They dont have one watt leds they use starO luxI
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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2008, 12:36:09 PM »

Regular initiates use Lux 1 (At least the one I have does)

DARK initiates use a Lux III Red/Orange bin 2. And are direct driven.
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« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2008, 12:52:07 PM »

My point exactly. Not that I am trying to shy business away from Ultra, but Luke has a good point! Wink
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« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2008, 10:02:03 AM »

lol... I never expected my questions would lead to all of this.  But in reading all the other posts after mine, I've learned quite a bit.

Anyways, I really don't see any point in wasting a sound board in a PVC hilt either, especially when you can do what Luke did.

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lol... I just realized it was stickied
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« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2008, 11:01:02 AM »

Yes a few posts may look out of place because I just spent some time merging three different topics (In this VERY board) about Questions on the initiate sabers.  Meaning that it is all in one place and stickied for ease of use. 

You may have to do a bit of reading around in the topic now, but must if not all of the information is contained herein now. Cool
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« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2008, 01:28:24 PM »

Would there be enough space in a Dark initiate to install a soundboard?  Grin
To be honest, I don't really understand why so many people ask about putting sound in initiate sabers in the first place... Undecided

Because the Dark Iniate is as far as I know the only way to get a curved hilt at the moment Wink
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« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2008, 03:43:22 PM »

Actually, there are other ways of obtaining a curved hilt... But that is not what we are discussing here. Wink

While I understand your plight there Vincent. Cool 
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