I wanted to comment on this thread, as I have admired the saber world for years, and am now a 47 year old kid, having purchased a few (what I would consider entry level) sabers over the last two years, and not naming any names am fairly happy with the product and its durability (learning and training as time permits). I have wanted sabers by Genesis for a long time now and have always been late to the game...this time I made it and was able to order one of these beautiful blades...got so excited that I even asked my wife to let me have an xmas present of his next release at the end of the year...I have some work to do on that convincing but pretty sure I will be able to if all goes well. One question though...would I be able to get a CF v8 and driver at one point down the line in these or others from Genesis.